 So, hope for me comes on the twin side of the outrage coin, so somewhere between the sense of urgency and my sense of anger at the inequalities that are gaining, I find these beautiful nuggets of hope that usually come from very simple people who are managing to thrive against all adversity and it's really from that that the humility to sort of retrench and think about the work I'm doing a little bit differently and really go back at it always with a positive attitude is really where I see hope and then I'm a mom. So I have three boys, young men and they are my hope always.