 Yes, yes, people, welcome back to another panel show. And it's one I'm really looking forward to. I'm really, really looking forward to Darby Day Delight. Darby Day Delight from Manchester City 3-1 over Manchester United. I hope you all did enjoy another Darby Day win. That's two over them, the double over Manchester United this season. For me, like it almost feels like a trophy. It's not quite the same feeling as a trophy, but I just love that feeling of beating them. So, listen, we're going to get into it all. We've got Joe Bigup, Joe Martin, and Muld as well joining us to talk about it all. Before we get into it, make sure you all hit that big like button. It massively helps more people find the channel. And of course, do show love to Muld and Noisy Bud Martin at the Mancunium Way and Joe Over on HMTV. That's a really great weekend, a really, really great weekend. They had us in the first half, Muld, I think. They had us a bit worried in the first half, but it worked out well in the end. Yep, for sure, mate. You're right. Not much better than beating them twice in a season, is there? Just the feeling just grows and grows and continues throughout the week to see them crying on social media. Just wrap it up. It's great. They had us in the first half. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, it's always worrying in a derby, right? Because you're on tilt as a city fan. Even though the game was, you know, we were dominating the game early on and it looked like you can tell within a few minutes of watching the city whether they're on it or not, right? And everything looked like we were on it. The intensity was good. The passing was good. Chemistry looked fine. And then we got struck by a, you know, a wonder goal from Rashford. That type of goal is a little bit worrying, but in the main, I think we learned from it on the day and limited them to almost nothing after that. We kept attacking and we finally got what we deserved. And we got an announcement from Phil Foden that he's now probably the talisman in this squad. And yeah, beat him comfortably in the end. In the cold light of day after the fact, you look at the statistics, we batted him. And yeah, well chuffed with that. Absolutely. Martin, were you concerned when that Rashford goal went in? Were you thinking it might be just one of those days? Because I don't know about you, but for me, it felt we were a bit off, you know, we're crossing aimlessly on Nana's making saves. He's catching everything. It felt a little bit like, I don't know, man, could it be one of those days where they get something that they don't deserve? For me, no. I honestly didn't think we played bad first off. I thought we were amazing. I thought that's the quickest we've started the game in a long time. I mean, most, but you can tell within the first minute I'll say you're gonna play. Went straight back to Edison bang straight into the attack. And if I'm honestly, what's that full folding chance? I think we put it away for a corner. That could have been going in top ends. We couldn't have been ahead in like 48 seconds. We came out with a with a swagger with it with a real weird avenue today. And apart and listen, I don't mind the Rassford goal so much. Because when you get a goal conceded like that, sometimes you just hold your hands up and you go that last was the world. Yeah, yeah, you could have said, you know, Diaz playing offside or whatever, all right there. Could he have got the ball possibly maybe Bruno shouldn't have had the space he had. But that was just the world if you're Rassford. And then he exit his stage left and didn't come back in the game after that. He goes, I don't know if did he go off the pitch? Did him and Bruno just go off holding hands? I didn't see him again. Honestly, that was blue wave after blue wave that rotary chance. Ireland. I don't know what he's doing. I honestly think I'm statistic and I hate stats. I know I hate stats but what about we had more chances in the first half than we did second. We had 18 chances in that first half. It was a blue wave from minute one. They didn't know what to do. So I did feel like I had time I'd watched a different game with some other people. I'm a watching different game. I don't know. Maybe it's because that was at my end. Maybe I saw it different. I don't know. See, I know what you're saying and I fully get it. And with hindsight and you look back on it and you see the stats and the result of seal that you really assessed the game in your head. You go, yeah, we did. We battered them. I don't know. Maybe it's just me with the emotion of playing them and little things don't go your way when you want them to go your way as fast as they do. You know, like the rodry shot near the half. I don't know. Nana gets down and makes it a really great save. What a save that was. And it annoyed me because I've been interrupting you there. Nana was world class first half, bag of shit second half. I don't know. A different keeper came out. So I don't know. I just think it's the it's the emotion of that fixture. Like it was a little change. You didn't get him down. You got him at your end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think do you guys think there's any psychology to shoot at the soundstand for the second half? I see a lot of people talking about that on Twitter. They do it more. Need to do it more. I think. Yeah. I think we need to do it more. I mean, maybe it's just because of the occasions that we're doing it. Like the Villa, obviously the Diaby. We did it again. Another point this season. I can't remember exactly which game but we attack the south stand and it's like, I don't know. I just feel like in the second half because sometimes, you know, in seasons gone by, you look at us starting slowing the first half and then turning it around in the second half. How many times this season have we been one nil down as well, by the way? Like that's happened a lot. Imagine home game. You're one nil down. You're attacking the south stand, you know, to try and chase the game. I think there's, there could be a little bit of a difference. I don't know whether it's, like I said, it's the occasion of just the games that we're choosing to do it, but I'm all for it. Just remind me how it's decided again. It's a coin toss. It's a coin toss. I didn't know what you said. Did anyone, did anyone actually know? Did we lose or win the coin toss? No, we lost it. We lost it. So, originally, we were shooting into the south stand for the first half and Ten Hag called, Ten Hag told, who out with Bruno, that if you win the coin toss, regardless of what way they're shooting, switch it around as like a psychological win. So, Bruno thought he was getting a psychological win over us by saying, nah, shooting to the south stand second half. Yeah, do, do, do family stand first half. The opposite argument is, and I think I read something not too long ago about when company was captain, he used to always, you know, shoot south stand first because, and I believe I read this, that it was in his mind, he didn't want the second half for the away team to be shooting towards death, like to be going towards their fans, like their goal being on the end. So, maybe that's another psychological thing where maybe if you do shoot into the south stand in the second half, you know, that's where the away fans are. Maybe, you know, there's, there's, there's arguments both side. I don't really mind. I thought we'd always done it the other way round normally, because I would always like to think it's a bit of a protocol to the south stand second half. Well, you would think so, wouldn't you? Because it's the noisiest bit. Yeah, I can go, whoa, whoa right now. Stop right now. Family stand standard. Are you, are you in family stand right now? Is that what you mean? Yeah, I am moving. I'm trying to move, but it's trying to get three tickets together in south stand lower. Yeah, yeah, that's a tough task. Well, I don't know, it looked like, maybe, maybe there is, maybe there isn't psychology to it, but a lot of people have seen on Twitter saying, I know Amos from City Report was saying that he thinks we, we suck the ball into the net in the second half, the fans behind the goal and, and it worked in my favor. But either way, we'll talk more in the second half, because it really was a fantastic performance, but before we do, I do want to touch in on United and, and I suppose the way they turned up, I don't know about you guys, but all week, I don't know how many of you, how often you guys interact with United fans, I don't know how much of a limit you like to put onto it, but all week beforehand, unfortunately, I was subjected to plenty of them telling me how much of a big club they are, and they were, they were giving a chest and this, that, the other. I've never seen a big club, a quote-unquote big club come out to a game at Derby and put 11 men behind the ball, or put 10 men on the edge of the box, like that. Like we've seen Brentford's and Palace's and St. Hampton's come to the Eddie Had and play with more Venom and Chest than Manchester United. Were any of you, did that resonate with any of you? Yeah, it's a disgrace, honestly. You know, the big club, they talk about being the biggest club in the world and that, and we certainly spent money on that thing, a billion pounds in that team. You know, I know some of them had injuries in that, but still you think you'd be able to put out a team that looks like a premiership side and not, you know, it looked like they were maybe, you'd be okay confusing them with like a lower league side the way they were playing, like it was an FA Cup tie against the lower league side, or Carabao or whatever. Just, just disgraceful, I don't know how their fans put up with that, to be honest with you. I mean, they've been doing it near on a decade though. I mean, there was a little bit of fight left in them when Moisey took over, right, because they were still in that very, the peak of their arrogance, right, and their fan base expected the tradition that the Ferguson attack-attack-attack tradition to carry on with Moise, so they were a little bit naive in continuing to try to play us that way and he inevitably got battered by us in the year that he was there. After that, they just seemed to get more and more defensive whenever they would come to visit, Mourinho, Vangal, Ole played us on the counter-attack, and now 10 hogs doing it too, so it's been nigh on a decade that they've been coming, playing like cowards at the Etihad, and it's a disgrace for a club that supposedly, you know, a big club, and I've spent massive amounts of money, more than Man City, so. I just don't know how they can try and use the fact that they're now in their head, quote-unquote, shit as an excuse for playing with no pride. Like, for people like you, Martin and Mulvon, and even myself, I remember towards the latter stages of us being shit just before the takeover, even when we were significantly worse, they had Tevez, Rune, Ronaldo, than we are now, we still went to Old Trafford and played them at home with pride. We played with pride, we always had fight, we knew we were the underdog, we knew we were on paper worse than them, but we always go into the derby with our chest out, and we go for it. You know what I mean? The way you'd want, if I'm a United Fan and that away ends on Sunday, I'm going, what the hell? What is this? I saw them no pride, they couldn't believe when they're won the loop, they were like, this is just, wow. You just said it. Even when we were absolutely dog, you know what, we still went and gave it a go. We still went and tried, I remember being at the FA Cup game in 1996 or 1995, whenever it was, when Uwe scored and we had, you know, the bag of crap we had then, with kids, you know, no disrespect, but kids, Simon's at the back and Mr Wilkes giving them phony penalties, and we still had a go, we beat the majority of our Vikings and Lucy Mutomo at the back. This narrative, all of a sudden, of the no longer a world-class team and they're not that good anymore, it's just an excuse for them to get out of getting hammered again, getting humbled again, because they don't know how to react to them. And it's not just United, I'm seeing it throughout the football world now. City of, City of now looks upon in a very different light to every other team in world football. We are looked upon and then, and then if you say anything, you're salty, you're bitter, you're embarrassing, and it's just get over yourselves. All it is, is a protected bubble, because they can't, they don't want to see what's in front of them. Is that Manchester is blue, it has always been blue, it will never be red. Go back to London, go back to wherever you're going to be hiding, get back under your rock, go and enjoy yourself. Go and put the history channel on, whatever you want to do to make you feel better. You know, go and count your champions ladies, go and count your league titles, whatever you want to do, because that's what you are, you are history. Goodbye, see you later. You're now the people, you're the teachers who put the kids to sleep in the back of the classroom. Big brothers taking over, enjoy it. I don't know for them. I'm tired, most rival fans this season, sick to death of it. Liverpool are this, Arsenal are the greatest team that ever walked. Sorry, last time I checked, they were third in the league. Back in your box, unless you say Arsenal are the greatest in the world, or let's say Liverpool are the greatest in the world, and unless you say United are the greatest in the world, you disrespect them. There's only one greatest in the world, factually right now, us, deal with it. I write that, I write that, I don't. A big one with my lot rivals tonight. I don't disagree with anything. Yeah man, I love it, I love it, I love it. Couple super chats here, LB1998 says, most rival fans saying we don't have a chance at Anfield. Monts puts so much disrespect on us saying the stuff he says, people saying we've been really bad. We actually will touch a bit on Anfield in this show, because I'm not sure we're going to chance to speak again before that game, and it's obviously, at this point, the biggest game of the season, so we will get into Anfield. Don't worry, LB1998. And second city saying, why does Harland disappear in big games finals, worried for Sunday? That's a really tough question. I don't think he disappears, Harland. Like, look, when you think about it, the way Manchester United set up on Sunday, it did make it very hard for early Harland. You know, 10 men essentially in and around the edge of the 18-yard box, he's not got much room. But with that said, it doesn't really excuse that miss, you know, the one we all know, the one we're folding and put it across. He's still got his goal. Like, elite players, this is the thing, second city saying, elite players, and not many have the capacity to do this, will have mishaps like that. It's normal. Unfortunately, Strikers, it's the name of the game. You're not going to just bang absolutely every single one. There's going to be blips and blunders where you're going, geez, what the hell's happened there. They're able to put it out of their mind and move on. And he still was able to put it out of his mind and move on and take that chance and somewhat redeem himself in the injury time. What did you guys think, Joe? What did you think of Harland on the weekend? I see a lot of people talking about him. People take every opportunity, in my opinion, to jump at Harland. You know, he misses something like that. They'll talk about that more than they'll talk about the fact he's the top scorer in the league and he scored five against Luton. But it's like, it's a weird because I saw, I follow the XG philosophy and of course I always, I always, I'm always interested. I don't really like stats like that, but I'm always interested and the one that he put out is, of course, Harland is top scorer in the league, but he's the highest underperforming XG player in the league as well also. So it's like, there's both sides to it. He's missing sitters, but he's also still bagging because like he's still there. He's won us six points this season. You go back to Brentford, he scored, you go back to Everton, he scored 2-0, he scored twice. Like he's still winning us games. The miss was inexcusable, like you can't make an excuse for that. You should be putting that in the back of the net. But he still scored. He still scored in that game. I don't, I don't get the criticism and the, the whole disappearing in big games finals is, I mean, I think it's laughable. He scored against Arsenal home in a way last season and they were in the only team in the title race with us. I find it laughable to suggest that he disappears. As, as you put in the chat there, Martin, 80 goals and 84 games. I just have to put it in for everyone to read. Oh, we might, we might as well, may as well. I don't, I don't get it. Like he's the only one I know that gets that much attention for a bad miss. He's not the first striker in history to miss something he should have scored. It's, it's, it's not new. When you play as much football 2-3, 2-3 games a week as players like, like ours do, there are going to be ones where he should score and he'll know himself when he left that game. He should have scored that bit. People forgot we, we still only young. He's 23, 24. He's not even at the peak of his powers yet. Bet on him not to score then. Pardon? Bet on him not to score then. I dare you. No, no one will do that. Take him out your fantasy team. I dare you. Anywhere your mouth is, bet on him not to score. Yeah, take him out your fantasy team. That's a good one. That's a good one. Do you think, do you think anyone will do that? Do you think anyone has actually ever taken him out the fantasy team when he's not scoring? Oh, because you can't risk it. You can't risk it. You've got glory today. Because you take it out, you get that trick. Yeah, you know, like throughout the season he's going to have a few misses like that, as will everybody. But there's also every possibility he goes and hits someone for a five or six. No one else has that capability. There's no one who's trying for you to look at and say, they could score five today. Haaland could score five today. Yes. As early as Haaland been, the same early in Haaland as last season, no. But people get last season was an absolute phenomenal wits. No one did what Haaland did last season. Yeah, perfect storm. But the trouble was that then put expectations. So I only scored 50 on goals last season. So now we expect 50 on goals every season. And it's like that's never going to be happening. You're going to, he's had injuries for two months. He lost his grandma. The guy's been through a very difficult time in his career. And he comes back. Look at the press comments today. Did that look like a man with no confidence? Did that look like a man who was like, yeah, I'm just not going to do anything? He missed from one yard out. 100 percent should have scored. What are you going to do in the 93rd minute? Put the ball in the back of the Union bag. See you later. And then the postman. You know what I mean? I don't know what people want. Five a game. I said, I said at the start of the season, there might have been on a panel show. I don't know. I don't know. But when everyone's like, oh, we're going to win this, that the other again, because Harland, as if like, he's going to level up past 52 goals. As if like, that's now, that's, you know, he's got 52. So this season, naturally he should get 72. You know, that's the expectation. I was kind of like, look, as the years go on, we're going to look back on that treble season and go, everything about it was abnormal. That the Harlem scoring rate, the trophy rate, the performances, the lack of goals conceded in the second half of the season, the formation, the tactics, the system, you know, the beginning of stones into midfield and things we'd never seen before. And it worked out perfectly. Do not expect that to be replicate. You cannot, you cannot just suddenly raise that to your, to your demands and make, that's now your demand that this is what you get. Hal in the my opinion will finish this season top scorer. That's, that's still an unbelief. That's not an underrated achievement. You can't downplay that achievement just because he didn't get 50 or 72 or basically last season was not fucking normal. That was absolutely mental stuff. And to put that expectation on him again as a city fan, I think it's totally unfair. You're putting mad pressure on a guy to do something that's just absolutely mental. And the fact of the matter is, look, he was out for two months, wasn't he? He was out for two months and a still top scorer in the league. Lost his grandmother not long after being out for two months. Got one, one of two Premier League recently, then got his five against Luton, scored in the Derby. By all things, by all things considered, he's actually doing quite well, isn't he? It's just because Holland is Holland, you expect him to do slightly more professional idiot. That ball, Holland missed, hit my man's head all the way here in California. Man's is doing Norwegian Andy Carroll things needs an update. Well, look, as Mo said, bet against him. As Joe said, take him out of your fantasy team. You won't. We've got Liverpool on Sunday and you'll be damn sure Holland will be in the team and you'll be damn sure Holland will be well up for it. Professional open space for him. More space against Liverpool, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely, they were Liverpool. Liverpool will play, Liverpool will play their front footer football. They won't sit back and play 10 on the edge of the box. So you think Holland will be priming them ready to capitalize on that. Big up cool guy, Eddie here. He says, big up the panel, look forward to the docus on Netflix. If I'm not mistaken, isn't MCFC the first Premier League team to feature on Netflix? I don't. Is that fact? Does anybody know? Has anybody else had it? I've only skimmed through Netflix, but I haven't seen anyone else. Yeah, nothing. Yeah, there was the Barcelona one. That was on Netflix. Is that a player stuff, not team stuff on Netflix? Yeah. Majorities player. That Sunderland one was on what? But obviously, not Premier League. Sunderland was Netflix. Welcome to Wrexham was also. First Premier League team, I think. All the other Premier League stuff is on Amazon Prime. We had the documentary on Amazon Prime, Tottenham Arsenal. It was a bit of a rip-off, wasn't it? You play 499 to City TV, and then they take it off that and put it on to Netflix. Yeah, it's happened. Do you want the people going out here? Seven figures. You can't argue with seven figures. It'll be sustainable, Martin. Yeah, to answer your question, Cool Guy, we think so. We think so. Okay, moving on from Haaland, we have to have to have to have a conversation about Phil Fogle. It would be just so wrong not to. I mean, this season, he's taken it to a new level. He's taken it to a new level. He's held the responsibility of having to step up with the loss of Gunduan and Mares and injured players and playing different positions. He's withstood that pressure so well. And as Ferdinand said it, he's taken on the responsibility of being the main man when certain players are out. He's turning up in derby moments. Like, look, I never had faith. I never lost faith that we'd win on Sunday even when we were 1-0 down. But my thought process in the South Stam was we're going to need one little moment of magic just to ignite the fire. Just to get the whole the whole thing going. You know what I mean? We get to kind of pause that sort of stage. And someone who gets it is Phil Foden. And I was one of the first goal lads was one of those magic moments in football where you didn't need to see to hit the back of the net to know it's a goal. As soon as it left his boot, the guy beside me goes, that's fucking going in. Fucking went in. It's he's just a sensational, sensational footballer who has trusted Pep Guardiola and the progression plan outlined for him for the last four or five years. And he's he's reaping the rewards now. And then to see him, you know, hat trick on the derby last year, you know, took control of Derby this year. It's special as Manchester City fans. Like, you always want one of your real own to be in the position he's in now and we're experiencing it now. It's it's just poetic. It does make it sweeter than he than it that he's a local lad and all that. Now looking back, I'm pretty sure that's his best game in a blue shirt, mate. He was devastating wherever he was on the pitch and he was moving back and forth. He scores a goal off the right wing. Very both goals really reminded me of like two other massive number eights for us. Number eights by position. I thought the first goal was reminiscent of of something Kevin De Bruyne would do in that you need a big goal. You need that moment you were talking about and you need a sweet strike. Maybe from outside and that's what Kevin has done for us for many years. The second one stunk of David Silver, to be honest with you. Left side of the pitch. The one two with Alvarez finishes it with his left foot far post. It just reeked of David Silver. So he's channeling two absolute legends there. Two of the best midfielders in football history. And yeah, he's only 23. I just perhaps managed him impeccably. For him to now come to the forefront as the likes of De Bruyne getting on a bit. Gundawan has moved on. David Silver has moved on. For him to now, you know, take the reins of the team. He's played it. He's played a blinder. It's it's special to see anything of the amount of success he's already experienced at such a young age. I mean, I just want I just I don't know how to think and how to judge how far he can go. Martin, he just is such a sensei. I look, don't people don't get on me for this next. I know we have De Bruyne's and we know we have Rodri's. I think in terms of just technical gifted ability, just natural footballing ability, he might be the most naturally gifted footballer we have in the squad. He's like a street footballer. Like those kids you see playing in the cage in the weekend, the way he'll carve out angles and passes and do mad tricks and flicks that you're kind of thinking he has the audacity to do that. First of all, but he also pulls it off. It's just glorious. Really is the only word I don't know what to say about footballing anymore without there's the trouble. I had it this morning at Sacky versus Folding debate again. Stop, stop this debate. Like you compare with a right winger to assume a versatile guy across all positions. It's it's silly. The best way I can describe footballing is and I was talking to a mate of mine today and it was the best way probably we were talking with somebody else perfectly as Bill Folding was born with such natural talent. Some players are born with just God's given talent. And what Pep Guardiola has done has brought it out of him and has managed his lad perfectly, absolutely perfectly. And the reason why I don't mind the Sacky debate is because Sacky's generally used to right winger. Bill Folding could play left wing, right wing, eight, ten, probably even false nine. And he doesn't moan, doesn't bitch. Yeah, he has a bit of a oh, you know, in an interview I'd like to play that. But he's so he's so humble he doesn't even class himself as being world class. In an interview after the diabetes it was like I don't ever see myself there because he's just doing something that is to him, he's living our dream as a fan. Oh yeah, yeah. Footballer. He's one of us that has just been given the God's given talent to play football. And he is, you know, when you think to yourself we ever see a fan playing football that's amazing for Folding. He smiles, he enjoys it, he loves it. And I think not only this season I think he's improved at tracking back, you know, holding the ball up, playing the right ball at the right time. And not only that, he's taken on games by himself. And go back to, I think, was it the Newcastle game at all? The first one, he ran the show. Ran the show. And he's now just, to me he's, he'll never get the plaudits he deserves outside of Manchester, sir. He never will. Why do you think that is? Because he's in a blue shirt. And I've said this until, because of what we've won and who we are and what's being said about us, we will never, ever get any credit outside of Manchester, sir. That's why it is. It's just sheer, because you see it on other things when you go on and on, you get his 115 cheats. Checkbook manager. All right, well, it's like, I want to see Pep go in a reaction. Wag's not going to go to Rexon. Our test first job wasn't a talk he united to build up his thing, you know, come through the ranks. Our test first job was Arsenal. So he's just, I don't know why it's just, for some reason, with this light, fine. Phil Fordham will get the praise that he deserves from the people that, to him, probably, matter the most, his city fans and his family. And to Phil Fordham, that's probably all he needs. Nothing silver, never got it. ADB was a reject when he turned up. He can just go through and go through. I made a video last week. Who beat away this? I made a video last week saying Phil Fordham is the best player in Europe right now. I really do believe he is. Just right now, I'm not saying he's the best overall footballer in Europe, because he's got a lot of great competition to compete with. I just mean, I'm based on form and how he's running games now. I think it's a valid opinion. You don't have to agree with it, but I think it's worthy of saying it's an opinion. And I think it's a great point you make, Martin, about how he doesn't moan, he doesn't have an ego, he doesn't come out of the press, like maybe cancel a word. When he wasn't getting the game time, he felt he deserved. He really embodies us. It's not in our nature to be constantly bragging and saying this, that, the other, and we're the best, and we're the biggest, and we're the shiniest. We just get on with it, we just do our thing, unless spoken to, obviously you won't take the piss out of us, but we're not in your face. Phil Folgen's not in your face. He really is Manchester City through and through. So as I say, Joe, it's just so special to see one of our own players, but I just want to touch in really quickly from an England perspective. Obviously, I'm not an English man myself, but England will be at the Euros this summer. How and will Garry Southgate find a way to not, or will, pick Phil Folgen? I don't know how he would know. You guess he's as good as mine with that guy, honestly. He has to find a way to get him in the team. I'm sorry. It's too far now where he's had quotes in the past where what was the one that he used most recently, was it? Pep doesn't play him as a midfielder, so I can't put him there. Well, he does now. So what's your excuse now, Gareth? He was at the game. He was at the derby. He was probably absolutely fuming when Rashford was taken off because he's one of his boys. He's probably upset that McGuire wasn't playing because he's another one of his boys. Calvin Phillips has gone off, another one of his boys. And he had to watch Phil Folgen run the show. He's probably fuming. Like, I don't understand how he can't play, but he'll find a way. I'm sure he'll find a way to not play him. The most obvious spot in the England setup is from the left. I think it's the only position, when you look at a Southgate side, that isn't decided. As for the rest of them, they're usually shoe-ins. You usually can pick his 11. But the player who plays off the left is usually different. Sometimes it's Rashford. Sometimes it's Grealish. He's sort of been in and out with Sterling Folgen's player out there. So that's kind of what I'm expecting, because I don't think it'll go as far as he won't play him. And I think we'll pass that now. I know I like to take the piss, but I think we are past that stage now. But they still kind of disappoints me that he's going to be put out on the left when he's just playing so well in this free role. Like, I feel like it's a waste, personally. But like, I expect nothing else. I'm happy for the waste. You take a summer off, Phil. You don't need to get to Germany. You don't need to play in the Euros. You relax for the summer. You deserve that. But look, I'm absolutely buzzing for Phil Folgen. And he's going to be a crucial cog in our machine. I believe if we have any chance, or if we want to win in Anfield this Sunday, which of course we do, I'm not going to overlook the Copenhagen game. We'll touch it slightly in on that for five minutes at the end. But I want to talk about Anfield now. Derby's out of the way. The first game in the Almighty March fixture run is out of the way. We won it. We started off right. But now it doesn't get much tougher than this. Martin Anfield away awaits. There was a one point at their one point ahead of us in the league right now. Pep versus Klopp. The last dance. At least Premier League-wise anyway. The stakes are very high, man. The stakes are very high. Still think we'll win. If we are honest, think we'll win. And I'm quietly confident. I'm not chest out. Here we go. It's going to be a really hard game. You've got to respect Liverpool. Of course, you know. But I don't think you're never going to get a bad chance right now at winning Anfield. Yes, they'll have one or two plays back. But they've got injuries. We're on a good run. This is... And not only that, I think somebody up perfectly. I think when you look at the way Arsenal, Liverpool and City are going, no one's given an inch right now. So I do think... I think it is a must-win game. And I think we'll win it. I don't... I think driving will be all right. Losing it. Don't like saying it. But I think we'll probably drop down to third favourites then. Because only because with 10 games to go, I don't see Liverpool losing two games. And then Arsenal... Because at the moment, it's three games. Three teams. And it's... Are they going to drop, you know, the most enough points for us to catch up? I'm not saying it'll be 100% be over, but I'm not thinking that. I'm thinking we go there and we'll do them. You know? I'm one of them. I take a scrappy one-nil right now. Don't care about performance. Does not bother me performance-wise. So don't want to wait. Oh, we're not five-nil or four-nil. We're not springing the ball around like... We're going to give up chances. They will create the same way they know we will create. But I think we will win. I think we will win now. Because when the going gets tough, we get going. We are here. We are there in the big moments. And Pat knows every game is a final now. And I just think you'll hear it all. It's Klopp's last game versus Pep. You'll get all the fairy-tale stuff beforehand and all the dreaming. And we'll go in and we'll turn it into a nightmare. And I can't wait. It's... I agree. For one reason or another, I have this feeling we're going to win. I really do. I think this is the year that we break this Anfield curse, or at least a full Anfield curse. I don't know what it is about this team. As you say, I just have so much faith in them when it matters most that we'll deliver and we'll do what we need to do. We've never had to go to Anfield in a title race and win. We've always played at Anfield in the first half of the season, which may contribute to our poor record there. You know, because we do typically in the first half of the season we're not quite our title-running selves. Now we're in that kind of form or we're growing into that kind of form where we know we have to turn it up and we have to go through the gears and we have to be in top gear in Anfield this Sunday. What do you think, Wolf, about this Sunday? It's kind of hard to preview, isn't it? Like what do you say? Other than, I think we'll win, I think we'll lose. It's just I'm nervous, but I'm excited. Yeah, I think what I'll say is I think we're a slightly better team than them. I don't think there's a massive gap right now. I don't think we're in top gear necessarily. I've watched them a little bit and they're not particularly convincing, I'll be honest. They can definitely be got at. I'm glad that Trent's not playing. He's always really, really good against us. He is not playing, right? Have I got that right? Yeah, yeah. So I think we're slightly better than them. Confident we could go and get the three points. Yeah, I don't care how. And at the risk of oversimplifying a football match, it could just be a case of whether we take our chances or not. And I fancy I fancy us with space in behind, particularly with Harland. And yeah, I think we could absolutely beat them there. I don't think a draw is the end of the world. I wouldn't play for a draw, but a draw is probably okay. But I wonder if us beating them at their place might be mentally too difficult for them to recover from. Because all the PTSD of a tyre race with Man City will creep back in and, you know, we could go on to distance ourselves from them from that point if we win. I think if we beat them on Sunday, it derails them totally. I really do. I think they capitulate if we beat them on Sunday, because for some reason they have it in their head that when we come to Anfield, it's a guaranteed three points for them. I was chatting to a Liverpool friend of mine about an hour ago there, and he was like, the game be won before a ball is kicked. You're coming to Anfield. You won't be able to cope with the bus smashings and the chat and the noise and all that rubbish. And I was like, mate, are you really going to disrespect this Manchester City team in a title running like that? I just think it's wild. Say again. Everyone's doing an astral thing. They're coming to the air to roll over us. I've never I've never seen. I don't really think it's disrespect. I think it's for some reason, Arsenal and Liverpool, I'm not scared of us. I don't get it. And it's not even famous. They don't even respect us. I don't get it. No, but Jordan is Martin. They'll say they're going to beat us, but they won't put themselves as favorites to win the fucking league. They won't. They won't put that pressure on themselves. I don't get it. It does baffle me that we are treble winners, world champs. And apparently we're going to Manfield and getting rolled over. The greatest astral team in the history of football is coming to roll us over to me. He had, you know, the week later or two weeks later. Like, yeah, yeah, but what are we? You know, are we some sort of like pub team? Are we dog and dog? To be fair, Arsenal's done well against us lately. They squeaked results out against us. So you can see them being a little bit more confident. They're obviously on a great run right now, putting fours and fives and sixes past teams. So they're on a bit of a high. So you can see them feeling good about themselves. Liverpool are probably bricking it, is my guess. I think maybe your mate's waffling you. He is known for waffling. He's a known waffler. He's not so much mate. He's more of a, maybe it's me, because I'm starting to go on these other rival shows and I'm starting to like, don't know whether they're trying to angst me or whether they're trying to, you know what I mean, Hugh, you're on the big six, you know what it gets like. And it's always like a little seer. They start to pat you on the head, like your little brother and you need to get back in your corner. Keep patting us on the head. Keep doubting us. That's what Pep said in that press conference. I love it when people doubt us, because we need those, we need those carrots. Yeah, I don't, I'm not mad at you with it because I think, I honestly think, I think we'll win both. Said it all along, I think we'll win this league by five points or so. I really do because I think we're starting to like, we're starting to create chances. We're playing with a bit more fluidity. We're starting to slow there. I think the only part of that 11, going into these big games, we can question now, is that left onside? Because of the Grealish Indra. Other than that, I think we can generally pick nine of the 11. I'm really going to go in and out. Which tells me Pep's now starting to take this a lot more serious. I think it was Pep's comments was it, it's before the Dabba. Playtime's over. Every game's a final now. And when Pep generally says that, that means, right, here we go. We're about to at the serious time. I don't know what it is, I do feel we're going to win at Anfield. So do I. And I think if we win at Anfield, we'll win against Arsenal too. I think we'll just get into that, that role, that rhythm. Of running Manchester City. And the win at Anfield would be the best way to really kickstart that. I know the Darby is a great kickstart, but a win at Anfield, because it's a direct title rival would be huge. Joe, Mohammed here says, unfortunately, we can't afford to lose at Anfield. Is that a statement you would agree with? Yeah, we can't afford to lose. Because I think if we lose, we're staring down the barrel of, I mean, a draw makes it so that it's not in our hands anymore. Like this is the last chance to make it so that, you know, we're in charge of our own destiny. Because if we win, then it's all down to us. If anything less, then we're relying on a Liverpool slip-up. But a loss, and we're relying on a couple of Liverpool slip-ups, which with about 10 games to go, is a little bit unlikely, because they just pull it out the bag. Look at Forrest, nine minutes into injury time. They just find a way to pull it out the bag. So a loss. I wouldn't necessarily count us out, because I think it would be far too soon to do that. I'd never like to write us off, but it would be a big ask if we were to lose. Like, again, I wouldn't play for a draw. I still wouldn't play for a draw, but losing is not... It's bordering on disastrous, to be honest. Who for the region would become third favourite? I just don't know, because of Arsenal, like they still have the Champions League football. I think they'll progress past Porto. I don't know how they'll manage the Champions League schedule with the Premier League. There's no way in hell they win both. Sorry, there's no way in hell they go the distance in both. They're talking like it, though. Talking like they're going to kick-warp both of them, then smash us, win the league, and steamer all the Champions League. That's what they do, though. That's what they do. Right about that. Calling the Community Shields now a big thing over beating us now. When it ended in the draw and we got beaten penalties, would that matter? Yeah. You've got to throw that in. Well, Arsenal have been amazing. Movies spawned. Arsenal are playing exquisite football at the moment. You can't take that away. The goals are scoring, the chances... They're putting teams to bed early. 40 minutes on the clock, and I feel tonight they're going home. Yeah, it's still in pre-season. It is impressive. 100% Liverpool are winning with injuries, clops kids, and City are on this 18-hour-20 win run, you know, one beating in 2024. Each team has got their own validations going into them, but they should have it in their chest. I think it's going to be exciting for everybody. Hell, for the three teams involved, everyone's giving it that. But deep down, they're all like, hmm, not sure. I think with us, probably way more common, because we've been there, got it, and done the team shirt, we've been in this position before. But, you know, like I said, I still think one team drops out of it. Don't know who that will be. Could be us, could be Arsenal. But if I was a betting man, which I'm not, I think we're winning our four-peat. I think we'll actually win two trophies this year, but I don't know what the second one will be. Just a really quick question to all of you. I saw Big Steve talking about this on TikTok, maybe. If you had the choice of one, and I know you'd all say, why not both, because we can do both, of course we can. If you had the choice of one, start with Joe. Back-to-back Champions League or four-peat Premier League? I mean, you've asked me this question before. My answer remains the same. It's too far in a row. Bye, for what he gets to make. Easy. It's the far in a row. To do, nobody's won four Premier Leagues in a row. So you choose the far in a row. Many teams have done two Champions Leagues in a row. It's not special. Like, yeah, it's a great achievement, because it would be winning the second. But nobody's ever done far in a row. That's something to set yourself out. If we do four in a row, we're clear. In any conversation, any debate about the best Premier League side of all time, we are clear. 100%. Unique achievements is what we're looking for. We've won it all. Now we just want unique achievements that nobody else has done. We start stacking those up, and we're clear. Come on, Martin. Four in a row. But I'll take the Champions League, if you don't win the League. But we will. As a consolation, I'll take it. I'll take it. I want to do something no more than Joe said. No other team in England's done. So a four in a row is up in that dressing room for a reason. You can't have Easter. Imagine it. You don't just win a treble, which, by the way, still doesn't don't think people have ever sank that fully in yet. It's one of them. We're all going to be sat there watching that Netflix documentary. That's when it'll hit. It'll be like, we actually did this. But then to go win four in a row in the season after winning the treble, that's something mixed and made of legends. Eclipse is the argument of greatest Premier League team and just turns into argument of just greatest team of all time. Like, that is the bracket you get put into if you do that. I mean, I think there's an argument for it already because second treble ever. But to go and then do the four-peat, like, there's not many arguments against being the greatest team of all time at that point. Ends the debate. They're mentioned what? The T-word? I will mention the T-word if we beat both Arsenal and Liverpool and I see the draw for the next round of the Champions League. That's when I'll entertain it. I'm not saying I'll be on the train, but I'll entertain it. But look, as we've learned before, trebles, man, they're not waiting for you. You say, we do that. We beat Newcastle towards the FA Cup and then you get drawn at Wembley against Wolves, our Coventry. And then you're like, that's a decent semi-final draw. Going into the middle of a semi-final, a quarter-final of the Champions League. And that's when it starts again, having the treble. But now it's four in a row for me and partly sad between the other two. But the FA Cup, because it shows who the other two is, it's who you get drawn against. Because the good thing about Copenhagen is, is it the next round, we get the full breakdown into the final? Yes, yes. Yeah, a double draw. You get where you go in, though, it depends what side of the draw you get put on this post. You start drawing English teams, too. But like I said, you've got injuries you've got. Yes, you've got. Overpill about to Thursday, Sunday, Arsenal are going to get massive challenges coming up. Still, there's a lot of football to be played at. Long way to go, long way to go. Big Steve, just for what it's worth, said he'd rather win back-to-back Champions Leagues. But we're all interested. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, was he... I think he was dirty sports, what were we doing there? Don't know where he was doing it. I saw it, though. It was outside, yeah, yeah. We were doing outside, yeah, yeah. Surprises me. Yeah, each to their own, I suppose. What's with one behind United, though, doesn't it? I think that was part of a thought process, that you're getting very close to them for European Cups. But look, each to their own. There's no reason we can't... They've not done so. I don't... Don't know. He said, no, he said that if we win four in a row, people will forget about that in a few years. It'll be forgotten about. Or like, it won't be something that people care about too much, that deeply. But back-to-back Champions Leagues has only been done by Forrest and Liverpool. Never in the Premier League era. In the old era. That was in the... I was saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. In the old era. No. Has it ever been done in the Champions League era? Yeah, around Madrid. But no, it's not in the club. No, no, no. Oh, gosh, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. And he'd be right before the new format as well. He'd be right before the new format as well. Yeah. I don't like the new format, but it's changing. It's the last chance to win, I guess, the Champions League as we know it. It's a difficult one. It's a difficult one, but it's a good one. It's not. It's not you. It's not. I don't know. I don't know. It's a good... He's calling both sides there. It's a good predicament to have, isn't it? It is. It's a good predicament to have, so we can enjoy that. Better days of Steve Olomas. Definitely, yeah. What if we finish the game before 17 counts? How are you doing right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, listen, we're approaching the hour mark, so for Copenhagen, game myself and Jordan will do a full preview tomorrow afternoon, I think about one o'clock. So we'll park that there for now. You've got to. And there's still room for you in the building. I want you all to do me a favour and hit the like button on the stream. Martin, what's coming up on the Mancunian way this week in the build-up to the Anaphil game? Post-match, Copenhagen tomorrow when I get back. So it will be a late one. I apologise. And then Thursday, we're going to do a full show on Liverpool. And then I'm just going to go into hiding for two days until we get the game out of the way. Went up a mountain. Fair enough. Fair enough. Guys, make sure you make sure you go to the Mancunian way. Martin's always a great contributor here. And a great blue, great guy. So go over to the Mancunian way and show support to him over there. Subscribe, enjoy his content. Like I always say, we always want to support each other. We're a very good fan base and a bunch of content creators in that sense that there's no divisions. And then move over on the noisy pod. What's happening this week, brother? Yeah, we just dropped a podcast this morning. It's the Man United Victory Lap where we just banter those for a good 60 minutes. Yeah, that's our main gig is a podcast, a weekly podcast. Me and my mate Joey do it from we're from the States. Yeah, so latest one just dropped this morning. So check it out. Oh, yeah. Occasionally we do like calling shows on YouTube. Depending on the time of day we do it. It's mostly an American audience, but just depends when we get get going. Martin joins. Yeah, sat in his car half two in the morning, joined in. So appreciate you, mate. That's class. Make sure you do go over to the noisy pod and give a listen to the podcast. I've started listening to them when I'm on the treadmill doing my cardio. It helps pass the time. They're really good. Yeah, they are. They're really good. They're good guys, good laugh as well. And then Joe on my personal channel, he operates on, but he makes great videos. I'm live with Joe tonight at half past 10. We're going to do more. Just podcast Darby chat with my touch in a bit on Champions League. So you catch me and Joe over on HMTV tonight at half past 10. But I suppose that's kind of it. Darby weekend is over. Copenhagen tomorrow. Champions League is back. I have to get the job done there. And then it's all systems go looking towards Anfield. Big up to all of you in the chat. Leave your comments down below if you're watching on playback. Make sure to hit a like as well. It massively helps. And like I said, always, always, always show love to all these guys. We'll see you tomorrow with some more content. Enjoy the rest of the evening people. Good night and God bless in a bit.