 Good morning. My name is Dave Medbury and if you're not here to build a community you're in the wrong place And if you are here to build a community you probably want to get close and be like a community Although it is Atlanta. You might be hot and sticky just from walking here. So wherever you sit is fine I'm not expecting very many people though. So if we fill this room. I'm in the wrong place So How do you build a community? Well, I want to welcome you to The Colorado open stack meetup on the road and that's why the name badges were out front. That's what we do at our meetups so that you Get to see somebody you don't know and learn their name very quickly Of course, we have the same thing with our badges here, but I've got my little sticker on I'll take that off now since I've said my name and you can find me in the agenda They say it makes the filming better if I don't have it on Let's see So again, welcome to the Colorado open stack meetup on the road and I'll get my clicker and I'll be better prepared now What is an open stack community and opens that community a lot of things its developers its enterprises that floor out There's dedicated to those enterprises its users its seekers It's really people It's about people Individuals with a somewhat common interest that interest might be a development interest It may be a problem you're trying to solve, but we we've come to open stack As a people because we have an interest in open stack Folks with a wide range of experience interests and needs Your needs today Maybe somebody else's needs tomorrow and you might have experience to offer them. So that that's that's that's why we come together But how does an open stack community address those needs? Well, this this is how I do it by listening prompting proposing teaching iterating back through those items again crafting activities and being open to new ideas new needs and different perspectives So what do you need? What do you need? Raise your hand. What do you need out of an open stack community? You get started by asking questions What somebody else need I'll get to how we get started in a couple slides though And and Any questions no question. Okay, I'll call on you that's part of what the name badges about right? I can't see your show badges from here, but that's all right. We'll do we'll do we'll do pointing, okay? Presto you write in this room. You write in this room became a community your community right now It's it's an ad hoc temporary community, but you're here And this session will be run just as if we were having an open stack meet-up in Colorado or your neighborhood Which is why I asked you to put on a name tag. I said I said I would explain that to somebody asked earlier I said that that's an explanation right there. All right. I Do you guys know it's being streamed live on YouTube from the open stack summit? I'm also streaming it live right from my computer as well So that my Colorado people that are remote are right here with me Form a meet-up or similar group. That is the way you get started Okay, if you want to start a community you start it if you want to start a community you start it I Say meet-up. I know that's a trademark proprietary thing, but it is also pervasive dominant It is it is the de facto way to do this It gives you discoverability. That's probably the biggest thing it gives you People come to my meet-up. They don't know me at all. All they said was I wonder if there's anything in Colorado and bingo I come to the top of the list It allows people to register and personalize so they've done all the social networking back in for you Provides querying and other tools. I can pull I can pull the meet-up people I can ask for leaders or speakers, etc Easy group contacts. I can I can contact the whole list. There's a man. I've been looking for this week Stefano, this one's yours And so that's how you that's that's the best way to start I think there's a lot of ways you could start it as a Google group or Google hangout as well But a meet-up pretty much does all the all the leg work for you They're not sponsoring me So how else do you get started? propose an initial topic Send out a bank send out a meeting date and bang that it's just that easy You might not have anybody sign up, but you don't know you will actually have people sign up I guarantee that you do need to find a facility or set up a conferencing system, but that's just a detail We were technologists we can solve that problem Matt did you have something to say? This is Matt Fisher from the Colorado OpenStack meet-up Okay, well I'll talk a little bit about facilities. So in Colorado we have a range of facilities we can use one of the favorites is to go to your local Brewer and they might have a community room. So you could meet at Odell's in Fort Collins You could meet at New Belgium. You could meet at the Fort Collins. What's it called the Fort Collins Brewer? They've got one of the nicest meeting rooms. We actually have a lot of them at libraries You can have them at universities. You can have them at businesses We'll talk more about that later the predominant choice these days is to have them at businesses. They have nice mics They have nice big screens They have nice chairs and they bring something else to the table. They bring food You mentioned to send out a meeting request. Who do you send it to right? You don't have a distribution list. What's Okay, so so there's I'll talk a little bit about how you do some Promotion of your meet-up, but they're really the best ways to go go to the meet-up page I'll go to the link in a little bit and you'll see how easy it is Literally once you create a meet-up if you know one or two people just send it to them Ask them to ask them to join your meet-up But it will it will actually people go looking for these things. That's the crazy part You don't understand you might want a meet-up in your neighborhood and there isn't one all you have to do Is create it let's let's go to the next slide. I'll talk a little bit about that Okay, here's an example San Antonio is a natural maybe the most natural hub for open stack outside of the Bay Area It's probably the number two spot. That's where rack spaces guys, but there was no active open stack meet-up It lagged people stopped attending and it just died dried up someone in San Antonio asked me how to get it started and So what did I tell them I said propose an initial topic sent out a meeting and it's just that easy And what did they actually do though? Bang done. It's just that easy. That's exactly what he did. They announced and held their meet-up He asked me two months ago. They already held their first meet-up. It was good interest good attendance It was a good community. There were other people that said why did the meet-up drive it? Nobody took action. It takes one person to start a meet-up and the meet-up happens I guarantee it. I I guess if you're in I grew up in rural Kansas I would have a hard time getting a meet-up going there. It would have to be it would have to be a virtual meet-up Okay, and that's kind of the extended geography part Kevin. What's up? That's a really good question. All right, so I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to it back to a slide. All right Propose an initial topic so you've got to come up if you want to form a community. Oh Yes, sorry, Stefano The question was how do you come up with a topic? All right, so as a person We've got a lot of persons in here You either want to know something want to talk about something or want to find somebody that Has a broader range of experience It's you're probably in one of those three camps if you want to learn about something say I want to have a Investigative meet-up about Cinder. All right So then you could have a Cinder meeting right you might not know anything about it But somebody that comes will know something about it and so you could just have a discussion You don't have to have a speaker you have to have a topic pretty much, but you don't have to have a speaker you guys can just sit Around a table real close and say okay. I know there's this Cinder thing that I'm supposed to be doing I really don't see what the point is or let's go to a different topic. I've got glance What is glance it just seems like it's just another Distribution thing I can get right ahead glance I can get so so you could you can have a little informal discussion at your first meet-up Okay, but at the end of your first meet-up You want to ask for topics? What do you want to hear about next month? Do you know somebody that wants to talk so so you you were the leader? But you're really the facilitator. All right Is that so that's one way the other way? I guess the other thing at the first meet-up you could just introduce open stack and some of the key the key pieces Okay, here's open stack, but in general you want to look at compute You want to look at object store and maybe some networking, you know and then kind of talk about it a little bit Oh anybody can do that. There's tons of tons of tools on open stack word to help you out Okay Bang done. It's just that easy. They had a meet-up in April 4th. I think The guy talked to me in March. He actually came out To Colorado on business talked to me just on the side between meetings said, you know, I know you do meet-ups What is that and that's how it did it. He got it going again the next month Colorado is not the Bay Area. It's not New York. It's not Atlanta Denver's pretty big But a lot of the tech community sits outside of Denver HP's had a long presence in Fort Collins, Colorado and Colorado Springs, which are neither one in Denver. You'll notice So we're extended kind of vertically or north to south Along the front range mountains, right and so we've got to do things a little bit different We work a little bit harder so Several years ago. I started a meet-up and it was called the open stack Colorado meet-up But there was a discovery discovery issue So another guy started the Denver meet-up not knowing that there was a Colorado meet-up because he assumed if there was a meet-up It would be in Denver, but it wasn't so We got together though eventually But you might be an even a more remote area like if you were in Laramie, Wyoming That's where I went to college. It's too far to go to Denver for an evening event And so you might be the only open-stack guy there, but you'll find somebody in the university somewhere doing big data doing Python Doing other cloud, maybe they're doing EC2. Maybe they're doing VMware You'll find a natural connection and you can pull people in from those groups and with meet-up you can actually Advertise I don't know promote your group With from within their meet-ups. It's it's very easy to do so pretty much no matter where you are and what your size is You can get a community going And you just have to do a little bit more work if you're not a natural hub Let's say there's two meet-ups that were formed independently each met a need for education information promotion Experience and now we're stronger by working together The the other meet-up host is actually in a different session right now, or he'd probably be in the room I don't know Scott. Are you in the room? No, I don't see him. Okay. He's doing sessions. He works I think he works for VMware right now So he's probably he might be at the VMware booth And he runs the Denver one. I run the one that's north of Denver basically We've not had any requests from Colorado Springs, but we have had Colorado Springs people drive up So it's it's not too bad And and there's ways to make it better You might want to go online and that's another solution. This is actually a bigger group right now Okay, this is as big as the largest group I've ever physical meet-up. I've hosted all right Not counting the people that are online right now So Anybody old-school military might have heard of the VTCN that's old days video teleconferencing We don't do that anymore We do things like WebEx virtual rooms connect or my personal favorite hangouts And I don't know if you remember the old pulp palm on love commercial, but you're soaking in it right now This is streaming live on YouTube via hangout It's also being streamed. I think live or tape delayed on the OpenStack Summit page as well Each has the ability to not only reach an extended audience to provide feedback playback later I Can't make it to everything that goes on in Denver, but I can watch their WebEx the next day and be right up to date I can attend the WebEx remotely if I'm out of town and even give feedback live in the meeting and that happens every single time And and if you're an open-source purist and some of us are You can also use big blue button big blue button is an open-source video streaming teleconference teleeducation tool that works Not quite as slick as some of these others, but it works very well, and we actually used it when I worked at canonical All work and no play makes open-sack a dull boy You need to have a party atmosphere Occasionally a beer bash occasionally if you can get a brew pub to sponsor your meetup. You're gonna have good attendance You're gonna have really good attendance If you can get a pizza joint to sponsor your meetup you're gonna have a pretty good attendance Throw frisbees. All right. Who's got a question for me? Nobody's got a question nobody else wants to frisbee I guess in the back somewhere take that so Building a community you want to be social right that's that's part of what it good Um as a community as a meetup leader, you actually do have to call in people in the back row Kenneth Get any questions about open-sack? You're good right now. Okay. What's good to see it's good to see you at my Colorado meetup That's a darn good question. How do you connect to an existing community my number one? There's two two good answers number one go to open stack.org and look for a community because they're they're posted there And I'll get to that in a page if I have it already. I'll go back to it if I if I have it Number two just go to meetup comm and search. There's a very good search tool right on the meetup comm You'll probably find a meetup. You might also just go on IRC. Hey IRC. You know what that is I know you do just go to a hash open stack and say is there anybody in Charlotte that is doing open stack right now. I'd like to come and talk to you Is there a meetup going on should we form one you can be you can be the man You know more about it than 99.99% of people in Charlotte. I Could probably add two more nines to that You got to build your community, but you also got to make it stronger you get forming It's actually the easy part. You got to keep it going So you need to ask someone else to lead the meeting give a talk. Okay, and you got to build a leadership I've got you've seen me talk to a few people in here. I've got some people I can go to if I'm out of town That will be happy to sit in for me even or if I get sick, you know, whatever So so you need to build the leadership You need to re-ask once again for needs who's got a question. What are the what do you need out of an open Stack community raise your hand if you have a question I can't throw frisbees today. Okay So ask again for needs and input ask at the end of every session. Okay Do an install fest. All right, I don't know. I'm an old Linux guy. So we did install fest We did them on Saturdays. We did them at universities. We did them at civic centers Everybody would bring in their computer. We would slam dunk that computer get rid of windows and load open stack Linux now we'll do it with Dev stack You could do it with a number of things And if you want to do an all-day thing do a dev stack a simple dev stack in the morning And for those people that are interested do a bug squash in the afternoon You've already got Dev stack loaded. You're ready to go. You can become a developer in one day Have your first commit get an invitation to Paris all right Look for low-hanging fruit when you do that. You don't want to you don't want to try and solve the cross-tenancy problems in your new in everybody's neutron as they go to VX lands in that afternoon session Because you'll lose people But look for a documentation bug one or two people can work on that documentation bug and then since there's 10,000 documentation bugs You can all have one Make it stronger. Okay. You need to schedule the next meet-up right away Ideally you actually schedule it before the current one happens. That's a little hard to do for your first one So at your first one get topics find somebody that will speak Find somebody that has a question and you can go do the legwork and get her either a speaker or just do the research Yourself, that's what I did for the second one. Somebody asked me a question. They didn't know the answer to I was ready to go for the second Meeting we talked all about it Follow-up email Meetup again. They do provide tools to do that automatically But you can create your own a mailing list if you want you can do this any way you want to meet up Just does a lot of legwork for you Thank the folks that portissi. Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. It's a second. It's a second question guy. He gets something different What about frequency what have you found that works sure? So I think I think frequency is really a tough thing to handle We're all busy professionals and it is hard to do it often enough And keep it going. I actually that may be what happened in San Antonio at one point They may have just burned themselves out. So no more than once a month No more than once a month Certainly you guys can chat anytime you want you can email each other you can do all that But a physical meetup probably once a month is the max. I'd say as a minimum though Every two months except maybe in the summer you can go you can skip all summer long if you want a lot of people are traveling It's hard to it's hard to get speakers And you know, there's fun things to go do in the summer Especially especially if you're trapped in a place that you don't want to be in the winter That's a good time to be having a meetup So I'd say minimum minimum every two months most of the year But you really don't need any more than one the month I think you can sustain yourself forever every other month that that is just fine. Okay We skip a month every Periodically I was traveling a lot for personal reasons in March. We didn't have one Or was it April? It was March. It was March. All right Thank the folks leave unstructured time at the beginning or in for more informal discussions All right, so so we're right to that part of my little meetup here check my watch. All right so It's good to see you all again. I know you drove a long way to be here for this meetup. Okay, you walked over from your hotel But it's kind of like that Is anybody got any horror stories from doing their first second third open stack setup any horror stories? Raise your hand if you have a horror story. Okay. No horror stories Any wins anybody and really get their first open stat or their first meetup going anybody get their first open stack into production There's no hands. Okay, but that's the kind of yeah, Stefano's got his first meetup. He's he's well into his hundred to meet up Questions Stefano, yeah, funny enough. I only helped bootstrap one all the others got really up by themselves So yeah the what you were saying is all what I've been doing what we've been doing in Italy He's mr. Community if you guys don't know he works for the foundation. He is mr. Open-Stack community Yeah, actually, there's two of us now. There's a Todd Tom Feifield. Yeah. Yeah. Oh Tom Feifield. Yeah He's been there a year now. I think maybe a little more. Yes. Yes, so Yeah, no the big the big win for us was to reach out to two companies who were already touching and Playing with Open-Stack in Milan and they were just you know Playing around participating in the mailing list and I spotted them and as I asked them why don't you Throw an event and they were just waiting for someone to ask them So sometimes that that's it all it takes is Just just do it. All right. I already threw you a frisbee. This is a chapstick. I'll throw another one if it broke Thanks to follow All right make it better connected. Okay, this is the page I want to actually go to Stefano's page You want to register your group with Open-Stack Foundation? That's part of how you'll be discovered people will actually go to the foundation to look for events So I'm gonna actually click on that. I'm gonna drop out of my presentation right quick and Just click the link on the mailing list page. There's a mailing list about community You want to join that mailing list right now? You can go to your little tablet your phones your iPads whatever you've got your iPhones You can join that mailing list right now Add your group to the Open-Stack users group list. All right, so let's go to that link Who's somebody not from Colorado and not from my company? Raise your hand Front row Joe right there Where are you from? What's your name and where are you from from Hungary Budapest? We had a bunch of a bunch of summit there a few years ago very nice city. Okay, Hungary Let's see if I can find Hungary here we go Hungary Meetup details are here Open-Stack Hungary meet-up group. Are you the leader? Are you Martin? Right there. So now we're on the open. We're on the meet-up page. That's what it'll look like You can put you can put the Open-Stack logo in this one's been going about as long as mine's been going. All right Almost the same date even It's just that easy folks you put it on the Open-Stack users group page and you put it in meetup and those two together basically point back at each other and Now you're very discoverable. How is that the hardest thing is finding people? All right. Well, we can talk a little bit about that. I think Stefano covered it a little bit Let's see. Let's hit present All right Okay, so you want people but you've also got to participate so how do you participate? You speak at someone else's group. Okay, so you've got this you've got this Cloud or big data team some of them don't know anything about Open-Stack You can go be an an emissary into their meet-up into their group and talk about Open-Stack All of a sudden you'll find that there's other people They're doing Open-Stack that you didn't know about and drag them back to your meeting as speakers. All right If you volunteer they kind of owe you. All right You need to know some people in the Open-Stack community too, so I know a few people in the room I know a few people in that room and I knew a few people in that room and I drag them to my meetings Colorado is very fortunate. We have two PTLs. We have one of Fort Collins named David Lyle and we have another one in Boulder Well, he actually lives right beside me in Loveland, Colorado John Griffith. He's the PTL for sender. I've dragged them both to meeting We've got a director from the Open Daylight Foundation in Fort Collins. I drag him to a meet-up So these are all very public figureheads. You can drag in that's that's easy So so even though we're kind of an extended community none of those people live in Denver by the way But even though we got an extended community We do have some resources, but you probably don't have any of those guys in your city. So what do you do? Oh? Wait, I have another opportunity to ask questions the guy that just walked in the room say your name and tell us Where you where you're from? San Diego Cool. Are you here for this meeting or the next one? It doesn't matter. You get a frisbee Because you talked at my summit All right, any other any questions really? All right, so people have asked a question over and over how do I get speakers? How do I get sponsors? And it's really the same thing. Oh, sorry. I messed up. All right. I'll get to that in a second Who wants to come up and start their very first meet-up right now? You want a meet-up in your city? It's gonna be on you who wants to come up and do it right now. It's easy I've made it very easy for you Somebody needs to come up on stage Come on up. The stairs are over here to this side. All right You'll probably have to talk at my mic because we did I didn't I didn't have a hand to hand mic up I forgot about that part. I forgot about this slide entirely All right It's easy to start a community. All right I'm I'm Nick Campbell He's Nick Campbell and I'd like to talk about or Ask about open stack. He'd like to ask about open stack. Okay, and I'd like to hear if you have any lessons learned experiences Questions about open stack. All right He's a natural leader Okay This is the first meet-up right all right, but you also have to plan the next one The next meet-up Thank you I'll be hosting the next meet-up hold it up close. There you go Yeah, so wherever you live. Yeah, you don't actually have to hold I'll be hosting the next meet-up in Lansing, Michigan Next month. Okay. Wait look for the announcement. Okay. All right You just held your first meet-up And wait, he's on stage The Bluetooth speaker from HP Probably switch it off and lay it down Tell me your name again Nick Campbell. All right. Thanks Nick Thank God, it's just that easy. Thanks Nick a big. Thank you All right, and one more thing you guys have been all asking about this find sponsors. All right I call it find sponsors. You might call it find speakers. You might call it find a meeting room You might call it find an interest group They'll help you sponsors will help you they will help you find or fund speakers meeting rooms swag I've been throwing things around in the room. You might have noticed that I have more things to throw to They'll help you with topics They'll help you with membership They'll help you with pizza. They'll help you with beer. They'll help you with an open-stack foundation birthday cake next month Oh in July They become a part of your community. How do you find? Speakers and sponsors You walk through those doors you walk to the first booth you see if they say no you Pasha them you walk to the next booth and you say I'm in Lansing, Michigan And I need a speaker next month. I'm gonna be out of town. Somebody's got a cover for me Don't you guys have a sales rep in the area? Don't you have somebody who really wants to win the entire University community here That's how easy it is. That is how easy it is and and they might be sitting right next to you right now All right, who here came on their own dime their own dollar? And is not sponsored by a company raise your hand. I'll give you six Frisbees. Oh, hey Everybody else in this room is a potential speaker for you Right because they all work for a company that's interested in open-stack every other person in this room I will come and speak at your group in Budapest any day of the week What's that? That's I mean everybody at this event is a potential speaker for you This is this is the weird part, right? The second bullet says they may seek you out. I don't have to schedule speakers anymore at all Speakers come find me It's like a marketing mind for them. I know there's things I don't want them to talk about and I say no, that's not really appropriate for our group And I'll go find a speaker or somebody else will come and speak Sometimes we just have discussions because a lot of us are in the trenches doing operations And we just want to learn from the other people that are in the trenches doing operations Yesterday, I think it was HP gave us talk about high availability neutron Which was exactly like a meet-up group It was exactly like a meet-up group and it was perfect and it was it was a packed house people sitting on the floor You said that some you turn down some presenters or some people that want to come and talk What are some of the topics that aren't appropriate for your? For our meet-up if you're really just trying to sell a product or service. I don't think that's appropriate However, your same company that does sell that product or service Probably has a more technical talk that they can give they can get a speaker that can give a more technical talk And I always turn that back or I don't just send them away I said, that's not really the right thing. Do you got anything else in your bag? Right? Every single company out here has a sales force every single company out here has a technical team and a lot of times There's an overlap. I worked for canonical for three years. We have what we call sales engineers. They know the product They're not really trying to sell you the product. They're trying to inform you about the product But they also know OpenStack. They know OpenStack. They can give a completely unbiased pure Presentation on OpenStack. They will probably put up a slide that says juju though. I'm okay if they put up a slide That says juju. I'm okay if they put up a slide that says DevOps distilled as long as the talk was about high availability Neutron, I'm gonna be excited. Okay, so and I think I think that's what my community wants They want they want content not to be a captive audience, okay? And and but but that's pretty successful I'll tell you that my next three meet-ups are already booked and it's all by distributions. I've got consecutive distributions lined up Red Hat, Canonical, Suse are all coming and it's partly because they've got new things that have come out And none of them have ever talked to our meet-up before. That's another thing They've never come and talked before so they're all game. They're not if they say the bad thing They will come back, but they're all game at this point, right? I've never had a hardware vendor Real hardware vendor come and talk. I will I will probably be a little bit concerned with the first time Well actually solid fire. No solid fire is a hardware software vendor. They have talked But all he did was the PTL of sender all I did was talk about sender He didn't say solid fire hardly at all. I think he handed out solid fire stickers That John's a great guy. I highly recommend him if you can get him to come talk at your community. Let him come talk Recognize and thank your sponsors. All right, you asked a second question. I'm gonna roll this one So the things I've been thrown around The the Bluetooth thing was from HP Percona provided I think the the orange frisbees who wants an orange frisbee It's an asterisk kind of They don't throw as well, but you have to claim it later boomerang Swift stack. All right Who's got a question for me? This is a good one. No question. No question. Okay, come on up And then walk back to that mic. So this is a signed copy by the author Joe Arnold right there From Swift stack and there's a mic go ask your question You always have your meet-ups like most user groups have been the nights the weekends From Calgary, Alberta. We're looking at kind of doing ours during the day, you know Maybe over lunch that way, you know, it's it's kind of like on your works company time you're going you're not going on your time We figured might get more buy-in. I think that's great I think it works well if you're like in a metro area where people can collect catch a sub over there or something Or if you're like in a really big downtown and just downtown people can go. I think that would be perfect I think a lot of people would welcome that if you bring beer though, just kind of limit the beer okay That's I've been to one like that. I think it wasn't an open-stack one I think it was a puppet one once it was like awesome I mean, yeah, it was it was you know kind of the buffet food and then come in and it was just puppet users So it was great Any more questions? Yep American press You'd be amazed that almost every single meet-up I go to Whoever is sponsoring that meet-up says something like on the very last side. We're hiring It's not it's not you shouldn't be overt about it I will tell you there is so much interpersonal networking going at every meet-up I've ever been to like which company you had now which company you had now you guys hiring who you know What's going on? Who's the hot company to go to work for happens every single time every single time it is I mean it meet-up is a social networking tool and people are going to use the tools they have in their bag and That's one of the tools in the social networking bag is recruiting. Did you already get a frisbee? Did you get a frisbee? Huh? Did you? Let's see go back. Okay, so thank your sponsors. That's that's that's important They're gonna they're gonna help you build your meet-up. Oh, let's see puppet labs I threw a shirt to somebody earlier. That was from puppet labs The open stack foundation bought all these frisbees. Thanks, Stefano I think it was it was Tim Feifeld last year. So if you'll see they have a little three on it It was the open stack third birthday party a year ago We we could have bought we could have bought beer beer was donated. We didn't need to buy beer We could have bought a birthday cake. I bought the birthday cake Open stack foundation said here's some money go spend it celebrate open stacks third birthday the fourth birthday is coming up in July You're welcome at my meet-up, but I'll bet there's one in your neighborhood. That's also having a birthday party So thank your sponsors puppet labs a bunch to okay, so You guys have been out on the show floor. You know, there's all sorts of things I've got I've got del chap stick who wants a del chap stick. All right. There's some up on stage. Just come up afterwards I've got an open stat a limited edition open stack foundation pen. This one's broken when I started my first meet-up I didn't have a sponsor. I didn't have anything to do to give out I didn't have anybody anything to draw people in I Contacted the open stack foundation said well we can send you some stickers and some pens and Then they also sent me seven shirts of various sizes from different media from different found Different summits in the past no two were alike and I gave them out of my first meet-up and it was a big success So here's some foundation pins What else do I have in here? Oh? so another another Another place all right. Here's a trick if you're gonna have your first meet-up, and you don't have anything ready to go Stick around till Friday or even maybe later today all these people that are tearing down boost I want to take their 4,000 shirts home with them Just put 12 shirts in your bag go and you'll have 12 shirts to hand out at your first meet-up That's where these very nice shiny a bunch of pins came from a year ago. I'm still giving them out That that's how you do it. That's that's really how it is And now I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you know I'm gonna ask him to turn off the mic Can you turn off my mic?