 How's it going everybody? DottoDoi here with another Dragon Ball Fighters video for you all today and because we're getting so close to Evo 2019 and a huge Dragon Ball Fighters tournament I thought today would be a great day to talk about the current tier list for this game. Now of course before we hop into it there are the usual disclaimers with tier list videos like these. Tier lists are highly subjective so if you disagree with or strongly agree with anything you see in this video make sure you go down below in the comments and let me know your thoughts on characters. A lot of the fun from these tier list videos at least for me comes from reading the comments so I would highly appreciate that. As well as the fact that when we do tier list videos like this I usually look at at least a couple top player tier lists just to see what they think about the game considering that their experience with this is a lot different from a lot of ours. It can be really insightful to see what top players are thinking when they're putting these characters where they place them. But of course I have also made a tier list and we'll talk about that a little later in the video as well. And now with no further introduction we can go ahead and jump right into the tier list starting with the bottom tier because a lot of that is going to look pretty similar. And you will see that Krillin comes in across the board as the worst character in the game. This is heart breaking stuff. With that said I do want to go into a little more detail as to why Krillin is widely considered to be one of the worst if not the worst characters in the game because he is my favorite character and a character I would say that I put a lot of time into. So as for Krillin he's really just a character that is held back in way too many areas. His normals are all really stubby and as such kind of suck. He has a great theme. I don't think anybody would argue with that. Krillin's Kamehameha is probably one of the best in the game and it's just super great for keeping people at range but unfortunately that alone is not enough. They've also hit him with a few nerfs, changed up a huge part of his style making it so a lot of longtime Krillin mains that we're putting up with a bad character already kind of just dropped him and moved on. Add on to the fact that Krillin has one of the worst assists in the game if not the worst. It just feels like Krillin is the one character in this game where you switch him out. Anybody else you switch out you're like okay that's fine they'll heal up and I can still use their assist if I need to. Krillin it's like if you switch him out it's like well I'm playing with two characters. Krillin is practically dead right now. I really know other character feels exactly like that and it's just a weird feeling to have an attack fighting game. So to keep things short Krillin is basically so much work just to get a very little return and once you switch him out off the field he's almost useless. The rest of the bottom tier characters on both Goichi and NoKami's tier list are pretty much similar. You've got characters like Jiren and Android 17 there who are also characters that struggle very much so in different aspects of the game. Jiren's neutral is pretty decent but he lacks ways to open people up and Android 17 just kind of struggles in a lot of areas that he always has struggle in although he isn't the absolute trash character that he once was considered. Really the only lower tier choice that stood out to me was Goichi's decision to put Captain Ginyu in C tier considering that Japan has a lot of great Ginyu players. Maybe they're moving on from him over there or they've just played against so many top tier Ginyu players that it's not a threat anymore but from what I've seen Ginyu is a really scary character still and one that I would definitely easily put in B tier. I would really like to hear Goichi's thoughts on that or your thoughts down below in the comments but I don't know dude I still think Ginyu is kind of a threat. Moving up to B tier now this is where you're going to start to see the game kind of condense a little and this is the area of Dragon Ball fighters where I would say that you could change the most. You know if you show me a really good player on one guy that could jump them up pretty high here because they're all relatively close at least in my opinion. A few standout characters on both of these tier lists would probably be Android 16 being in B as well as base Goku being in B in both of these. So really with Android 16 you know this is a continuing trend with this guy he was really top tier super busted when fighters initially released and then slowly over the course of the game they've been taking away elements from him and now we're currently seeing Android 16 and probably his weakest state not too many players are playing him but obviously being in B tier he still gets a result. You know there's still 16 players out there that take advantage of his bigger normals but really the thing that hurts this character is the fact that he is easily fuzzied and that's a huge thing. So if you're going to be playing him you really have to commit to the fact that there are going to be situations on defense where you just kind of got to make a guess and a lot of players aren't really willing to put up with that or the character they're getting in return. The other character I really wanted to talk about being in B is base Goku. Now this is a character that I have not really been a fan of for a while and that's because of a few reasons he lacks a normal level 3. So in situations where you're the last one alive missing that little bit of consistency to get a hard knockdown into a mix reliably I've really docked him some points in my opinion as well as it just being pretty awkward to try to get a normal sliding with him as well. Nowadays though there are a few base Goku's making absolute waves with the character. This one here, Wawa is a crazy base Goku player. I've been watching a lot of his stuff recently and let's just say this guy alone made me want to put base Goku in B. I know NoKami mentioned him in his stream but I don't know if Koichi is also seeing this same base Goku. Realistically this character does have some stuff and I could see him being low B. For me he probably would be the lowest character in B tier. Now as for discrepancies between these two tier lists the biggest one is probably going to be Vigito being in B for Koichi and not being there in NoKami's list. Now I gotta admit I would probably side with NoKami and say that Vigito has to be A tier in my opinion, at least low A tier. The character just does so much damage generates a decent amount of bar off hit and really really as soon as he gets the hit he really makes a lot of it happen. He's also pretty good on block I think. If you got good defense he won't be able to open you up that's kind of his fatal flaw but he can make you block for a long time with that stagger pressure. Guard cancelling in general probably not a great idea against Vigito because if they bait that out that's a huge punish coming your way. As for Koichi though there really wasn't some commentary with his tier list so we don't know why he put them there but I'd probably guess that Koichi is just kind of at another level when it comes to defense so a character struggling to open people up is probably a pretty huge deal for him. Other characters in B worth mentioning are Frieza, Majinbu, Beerus these are all characters that can get some decent mileage off of but take a lot of work from people that you know are just pretty much character enthusiasts. If you're not a super fan of these characters they're probably not worth putting time into but if you do decide to dedicate the hours Frieza can get some results that we've been seeing with Alucard and of course Majinbu has always been that character that you just get mixed by if you don't know what you're doing. So all good additions to the B tier in my opinion. Moving on up to the A tier where you will find the most amount of characters out of any tier in the game and I definitely agree with that there are a lot of good characters to choose from. Speaking of Majinbu Nokomi even has them up there in A. As for other standouts you have characters like Goku Blue who just puts on a ton of pressure. Cooler who I think is insanely strong. Piccolo another character that we see in top tier a lot and then you got characters like Cell, Android 21, Fuse, Amasu all of these characters it's crazy that they're in A but there's just so many better characters as well. Fuse Amasu if he touches you that's huge damage. Piccolo if he touches you that's huge damage. Cell is gonna make you block for a while then you're gonna get touched then you're gonna take huge damage and then you got Super Saiyan Goku who is single-handedly probably the most consistent character in this game. Great beam assist for when he's not on the field fantastic normals for when he is level 3 is really good damage with a lot of bars really good he's just a fantastic character. Same goes for Super Saiyan Vegeta as well. Yamcha also makes his way into the A tier for a similar reason Yamcha as a standalone character can get a lot of work done but when he's off the field that Yamcha assist really shines and I think at this point players just know that that Yamcha assist alone I was probably gonna solidify him in this A tier for a long time to come. One character that is in both A for Goichi and S for Nokami is Broly the legendary Super Saiyan and this guy man talk about making waves this guy has gone from pretty low tier to unquestionably one of the best characters in the game his assist is amazing his zoning is really good those ki blasts are deadly his level 3 oki got a lot better thanks to the patch add on to that that he has pretty decent normals with armor on some of them as well as a command grab and you got a character that is going to make a lot of people mad I wouldn't be surprised if Broly if you're like at a lower level or even like an online tier list Broly might be even higher than this honestly he's crazy Broly is a crazy character also in S we have the Gohan's you got Teen Gohan and Adult Gohan pretty similar I actually really like what Nokami said about these two Adult Gohan is better up close and probably overall a little better than Teen Gohan but Teen Gohan has a lot of those same traits while also playing better neutral and really that's what comes down to why he's so popular right now this dude is tearing it up his ki blast are just so great and his damage on some of his combos are insane so yeah I would definitely say Teen Gohan is the most improved character of the bunch jumping from probably like bottom tier probably like B or C to now S that's character development pretty soon he's actually going to be banned from tournaments after those characters though it kind of gets a little blame you know you know the big three by now you got Bardock, Kid Boo and Goku GT these are the big three for a reason these are the guys that play Dragon Ball fighters at its very core Goku GT has all that damage by himself as well as being able to set up into his own spirit bomb Burned Saint mix up on wake up he's just a crazy character Bardock of course would probably be my vote for single best character in the game just because of how reliable he is his buttons are great his lights are great all of his specials have a purpose but yeah you really don't need to talk too much about Bardock he's been he's been doing this since he came out and then Kid Boo who I assume some people would be surprised by but really he's just an overall solid character he's just got so many ways to open people up which is another quality a lot of these top tier characters have and his assist when he's in the back is pretty useful as well forcing people to block for a super long time that about wraps up the talk for those two tier list you can kind of see some similarities between them and how the overall opinion of the game is shaping up going into Evo which I do expect Evo to shake things up some more I just thought it would be more fun to talk about this before the tournament instead of after so you have a decent idea of going in what character strengths and weaknesses are and where a lot of people are ranking them right now as for my tier list you can see I have a lot of the same placements like I said I don't disagree with too many things here Bardock is my number one pick for best character just because you're going to see him more often than Kid Boo I think he's a lot easier to pick up play and get really good with which is kind of what makes a difference Kid Boo comes directly after into Goku GT and then the Gohans and then I got Broly leading the A tier I don't know Broly is pretty good but I don't think he has the same qualities as the top five do but yeah Broly is easily number six for me and then everything else is in order I got Goku after Broly again consistency is the thing I like to look for I want to know the characters that are going to get results being played a lot over a longer period of time Damasu just for the damage Piccolo is a classic you got to have him up there Vegeta and so on and so on I got cooler there pretty low but that's really because you know he gets fuzzied and not a lot of people are playing cooler I think he could jump up though if more good if more great players pick him up or could easily jump up in B tier I got Majin Buu leading it off as well as Android 18 who we didn't talk about too much but I'm kind of confused on where Android 18 should go right now you got one player Shanks who's playing a mean 18 makes that character look S tier but so I would like to see more gameplay from that guy because I think he's really leading the way on what 18 should be doing right now 16 Goku Black TN all those other characters in B tier C tier I got Nappa leading the way just because I don't know I kind of like Nappa face Vegeta after him as of those recent nerfs 17 Jiren and then of course I got I got Krillin and it's here of his own dude rocking it down there how unfortunate man Dragon Ball Fighters 2 or Dragon Ball Fighter Season 3 somebody save Krillin somebody help my boy yeah guys I hope you enjoyed this tier list video make sure you go down below in the comments let me know your thoughts on everything maybe even give me your top five 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