 Annette, so, what is your definition of design thinking? You know, I think that design thinking is the best way to match up what should work with what actually does work, and I would even say that's the objective with the subjective. So for me, design thinking is to take both ways of knowing and figure out ways where you can maximize, you know, the both both sides that you need to maximize and then make it up all again tomorrow because everything changes. And so there's no there's no I mean back when I was coming up strategic planning, 10-year plans, right? We were we were committed to that. And so one of the things that design thinking does is it just just reminds us that everything's temporary. So this video is just one piece of a bigger puzzle. Make sure to check out some of the other videos that are in this playlist to get the full picture. And if you'd like to learn how to explain service design in plain English, check out the free course that I've got for you over here. Thanks so much for watching and I look forward to seeing you in the next video.