 So the live stream is up. I'll drop a link in the chat. So you're welcome to start whenever you want and then as a quick note again If anybody is here for the supply chain meeting, there's a different zoom room. They're using I'll put that in chat as well. So thank you Okay. Thank you David. Well, hello to all of you. Welcome to the Meetup of HyperLayer Madrid. Today we're going to talk about the new H Plus network from Alastria, which is based on HyperLayer Fabry. And well, today we have three fantastic and fantastic opponents, which are Montse Guardia, the director of Alastria, María Salgado, responsible for blockchain and momentum, and Jorge Ordo Vasco, responsible for blockchain and telephony. How are you all? Very good. Thank you very much for your time and for contributing today to the HyperLayer Madrid community with this fantastic news of the Alastria H Plus network. For those of you who are new, I've seen that there have been a lot of people who have gone to the Meetup of HyperLayer Madrid. Well, this is a Meetup that belongs to the HyperLayer consortium. We generally meet about the different technologies that are under the umbrella of HyperLayer. Today, specifically, we are going to talk about the H Plus network, the Alastria network that is based on HyperLayer Fabry and the possible cases of use that are going to take off. Sorry, we also have several Meetups on the way. We have the 22th of March, if I'm not mistaken, a Meetup related to the Blockchain Automation Framework, which is a project of the HyperLayer Labs that is going to serve to be able to deploy lists for production related to the HyperLayer ecosystem. And they also come on the way to the Meetups related to digital identity, about the projects that HyperLayer has in digital identity, which would be HyperLayer Indy and HyperLayer Aries. And the agenda that we have today is going to be that Monse will tell us in case someone does not know the Alastria ecosystem, which I think is already quite well known, but there is always a good introduction to know it even more. Then Jorge is going to tell us what is that infrastructure of the Alastria network based on HyperLayer Fabry and finally Maria will tell us the case of using Alastria Indy, which is going to be one of the first cases that will take off on that productive network. So, without further ado, Monse, thank you very much for being here. Thank you very much and thank you for the introduction. I love being in a Meetup and a Meetup with HyperLayer, I think it's fantastic. I see that we are already almost, well, we are reaching 45 people. I'm going to try, I'm going to be brief because what I know is that from Alastria we are very interested today in listening and we already know, but above all that you can ask and I think that space for the questions that we can do and that we can dialogue about this H Plus network and about the digital identity in model Alastria Indy in this H HyperLayer Fabry network and that we call H Plus. I'll tell you and I'll start now. I'm Monse Guardia, Director General of Alastria. I'm going to share few slides, I'll try to be very specific and I'll also tell you that for me it's an honor. It's an honor to be the Director General of this association. First of all, association without profit. I always like to start with this image of Alastria, which is that global vision, that view from the stratosphere, trying to have a screen, trying to make what would be a name in English, reach in a pair of water, multiple themes around what decentralization is. So in this case today, and to reinforce that Alastria is born with a word called innovation and that I like to comment this little joke, this little vineyard where we are all looking to do something really new and when it's really new, there are risks. And no one else has done it, it will be for something. So that constant management between the risks and being innovative, I think it characterizes a lot Alastria. That balance between knowing how to manage well a risk but not stop doing what could be an innovation that no one else has done. I think that an pride right now, after three years, to be able to say that in Alastria we have been characterized during these three years and long by doing innovation, but an innovation by technological push. Well, these two gentlemen told us that there was innovation in the market, by listening to the market and there we had the equipment, closer to the client and closer to what would be the possibility of offering new products and new services that do not exist, but because we see a specific problem and that other innovation which is because a tool appears, something appears that we are going to be able to use in something to solve problems that we still do not know what we have. And that vision of bringing the future to the present. Alastria in this sense has seen how the network and telecommunication through the internet and the network effect is now currently 100% in many cases centralized but that the world can already do dApps, to be able to do decentralized applications on a decentralized network more and more is a reality. And today I will speak and when I speak of Alastria, I do not speak so much that technology is the key, it is the tool that allows us to innovate, but what we are really innovating, what we are innovating is in our relationship, in how we do or how we are going to be able to build business models, products and services based on a collaboration, an aggregation of actors in a search and generate a win-to-win. And that is complex because we are redefining processes between companies and for people. The famous business, your business, your customer. Well, getting to those models where we have to collaborate at the same level, well, that win-to-win is the construction that leads us to decide that together we go further. So Alastria is that, it is an association of companies, also public administrations and academy, universities, business schools, lawyer spaces, from all aspects, and what we do is push, from a polyhedral vision, from many points of view, a greater donation of innovation by the use of decentralized network, the use of blockchain in all its nature. We are agnostic in technology and this is important because indeed these networks that we are seeing are based on hyper-leisure technology or in all its hyper-leisure versions, it is important that they exist within the association and that there are partners like Telefónica, Inetum and other various who are also betting to work on this technology. Alastria is a pioneer, it has done nothing the same, with which we manage risks of learning about what we do and do it in short cycles. And what do we do? Well, all the partners, the 500, now more than 500 that we are, we collaborate in infrastructure, in that layer that I have said technological, but also in those models of digital identity, in standardizing, right? In Spain we have been the first to have a normal, a formal norm of digital identity that right now is already in CNCNL, that in Europe and in ISO, and also in what would be Etsy and you, right? We have embarked on those standards to present a model created with the contribution of all the partners or the majority of the partners or of some of them, we really do it because above this collaboration work there is competition and there is a competition based on consortia, based on agreements based on use cases. This is what we want, that exists to reach this digital economy, which is our mission, right? To reach a much richer digital economy and much more abundant. We do it by sector, we do it as today, here in the middle, we are distributed by all the territory in Spain, but also in Europe and in other countries, and what we try is that each person and that talent speaks and speaks independently of where they are. The use cases are based on the goodness of this decentralized technology currently, right? In 2021, most of the use cases that we are seeing are relative to the notation, to the registration, to the traceability, but already, I think this is the year of talking about use cases already for production of what would be digital identity and also telecommunication. And in this sense, I just want to tell you that we are doing research and development, yes, you have lost me. Yes, it sounds a little bad. Oh, yes? I'm going to do it a little more, to see if I can do it, and now? It's like you have a little noise. Now, yes. Okay, I'm going to put it like this, next to you. Well, the comment was already ending, no, yes, the clip is like the mic. I don't know if there are some ups and downs in the audio. I don't know if you are using headphones or... No. I'm going to try to see, and now it's better, better or not? No, it's like there is noise. Okay, I'm going to... I'm already... I don't know anything, because I'm closing this. No. Let's see now? Hello. I think it's your microphone. It's my microphone. Okay, I'm going to have to zoom in and I'll be back. I'm just going to tell you this, which is research, development and innovation. I'll be back in a second, okay? Because I think I have to leave to reset here. Perfect, here we wait for you. Okay. Well, while Montse is back, I'm going to comment, because Montse has explained a little what the objective was when Alastria was launched in 2017 already. And that objective was to try to find those cases of use that the different partners of Alastria that at that time we were developing blockchain projects within the business sector. We understood that they could be interesting not only within the scope of each of our companies, but above all putting in common those elements that could make sense for that interrelation between the different partners and create those projects or those joint components that would make each of us not have to start again from scratch and build our our own solutions. Great. Let's see, again? And again? Fantastic. Yes, fantastic. Yes, I don't know why the audio is degraded sometimes. I don't know why. I don't know why. Thank you. Thank you, Jorge. I'm just finishing because I wanted to give you this mark and talk about the importance of being able to innovate in a environment well known in a common environment and nothing else. There are projects, we have research and development projects to encourage these projects that are European models projects that we are all and encourage us to join Alastria that this is really going to make a much faster and more exponential among all the multiple partners that we are. I'm going to close here and well, it went a bit fast but what I wanted to give you with that vision that everything that can come will be for that that collaboration work and above all in determination to do it possible and talking about doing it possible I leave you, I think that now Maria and Jorge from two relevant companies of the Alastria ecosystem a push and a determination I'm going to leave you now I think you are going Maria if I say it right I'm going to leave you Maria I'm going to leave you I'm going to share a little summary continuing a little with what Montse commented and entering the most technological when we launched Alastria initially the plan was also to have a network or a set of networks with different technologies because the main objective was to be able to develop those cases of use that would have sense for the companies within a common ecosystem such as Alastria working among all in the part of technological availability of those companies that could do it the other companies that did not have that knowledge or did not have teams or could not dedicate that time to their own technology that could take advantage of those capabilities that they had in other companies within the consortium and that they could then deploy their cases of use, deploy their projects on an infrastructure that other companies were managing in a cooperative way and in an uninterested way and also to do it in a free way that until now the different networks that have been created within the Alastria area have been able to develop the concept tests with that mix that Montse mentioned earlier the technology that was initially planned within Alastria because it was probably the technology with a major degree of maturity was Quorum over time we have been introducing within Alastria different networks today there is a Quorum network a network of HyperLayer Beso and in 2019 we launched between several partners that we were working with the technology of HyperLayer Fabric a network with this technology a network that initially allowed us to understand and advance in those environments where there was a set of actors of different companies with different infrastructures that had to collaborate with each other to create a common case the typical case of a consortium for example and allow the partners to deploy cases of use based on HyperLayer Fabric on this type of infrastructure it is important to highlight that the networks that exist within the Alastria area are networks that are operated by the partners and are networks that do not give a guarantee of productive environment and this is and it is logical and normal because the partners are working in an uninterested way to maintain this infrastructure that does not mean that the networks do not have a great availability because for example the network of Quorum has had a performance and a availability comparable to any productive network but there has been a handicap so far for those partners that needed a little more that guarantee of a productive environment to be able to deploy their projects to go beyond the proof of concept and that is where at the beginning of this year Telefónica and Alastria have proposed to take a step more to try to take to the Alastria environment the Alastria partners the possibility of a productive environment that provides those guarantees that many companies need to be able to develop those projects in real environments that network is what we call the network H plus what is the network H plus we are talking about two environments one that is open to all Alastria partners without cost so that they can develop their cases of use based on Hatterleger Fabric that is oriented to carry out these proof of concept to carry out these projects where there are no these requirements of a productive environment where we can assume at some point a network fall or a performance loss because in the end it is an environment where the partners will deploy their cases of use in a common way sharing all the resources that exist in this environment it is useful to understand if the cases of use that are based on Hatterleger Fabric can make sense in each of the companies that are part of the consortium we have a productive environment we have another platform this other platform is another service that we call Premium it is the service on which we are going to give a guarantee of functioning we are going to give some SLAs, some time to answer and there will be a definition of the architecture that each of the partners needs for their own cases of use it is especially relevant to have a productive infrastructure in an area like the Alastria that as I mentioned previously in Montse there are more than 500 companies that can develop projects in common and the fact that each of these companies separately we want our own networks of Hatterleger Fabric probably makes the added value of all the initiatives that we are relating that we are developing and the impossibility that there are synergies between each of them but internally only in each of these companies all the ability to have blockchain having a shared environment allows us to join the two things having the guarantee of performance, functionality, etc. that we need when we develop our productive projects in each of the companies in an ecosystem and a technical environment where we can collaborate share and define those cases in common between the different companies if we enter a definition of a very high level of infrastructure when we talk about the shared platform what we are going to have basically is a minimum infrastructure of Hatterleger Fabric where in the same channel all the partners can deploy 100 codes of their concept test and to upload we can deploy 100 generic codes or generic functionalities added value services and what you want to see that can be common for all the companies in the productive environment however we have two different areas we have a shared infrastructure between all the companies that shared infrastructure that let's say is going to be designed to get the capabilities they need all the projects of the partners that want to develop productive environments about Hatterleger Fabric it will also allow all that common functionality all those components all those codes that can be shared between the rest of the partners the shared part of the productive platform each of the partners is going to have an independent environment it's going to have its own pips where depending on the use cases it's going to develop independent channels with other partners within Alastria if the use case is given in particular or even with other actors outside Alastria network it will also be possible to be incorporated within the use cases that develop in the H-plus network so that depending on the number of partners that are being incorporated in the network the network infrastructure is going to grow and we are going to have a shared infrastructure within a common infrastructure shared by all the partners the specific infrastructure that allows each of these partners to develop their own use cases depending on the technology or the technological stack the infrastructure that is going to be deployed all this network of high-parleger fabric is going to be done on telephone on the telephone data centers on OpenShift, on Kubernetes to facilitate that escalation and that rapid deployment and that high availability in the case that some of the infrastructure elements are not working properly and also, apart from the high-parleger fabric we are going to have other elements to facilitate the development and the consumption of everything that is generated within this ecosystem if we have to compare the environment that we call standard with the environment that we call premium I would focus on two concrete elements the standard environment provides an environment to be able to test the concept that has no cost for any of the partners of the network but on the other hand it does not provide guarantee of operation and it is a completely shared infrastructure among all partners unlike the premium service that does provide those guarantee of operation and that allows each of the partners a productive environment of high-parleger fabric to have its own specific infrastructure segmented and separated from the rest of the partners of the network and that specific infrastructure of the partners that shared environment is what each of the partners that form part of this premium environment of this productive environment has to include its budget We are talking about two fundamental components in this productive platform the entire shared infrastructure or the cost of this shared infrastructure is going to be distributed between the different partners that form part of the project so that the cost of each of the partners implementing an equivalent infrastructure of high-parleger fabric on its own will always be much higher than the cost distributed between all partners that form part of the network and then depending on the needs of each of the partners they are going to deploy specific components for that infrastructure dedicated in terms of PIRs, CAs, canals, etc. like other types of elements such as HSMs for key management in a environment where it is especially critical to guarantee that no one can have access to the private keys that are used within that ecosystem that creates each of the partners and also to adapt to the needs of attention and support depending on the typology of the use cases that are going to be deployed on the network and finally to finish and give a step to Maria that will explain more in detail one of the aspects that we believe of this H Plus network and also to guarantee the partners a common environment but with functional guarantees is that we give the possibility that those partners that can bring value to the rest of the partners within Alastria can create components reusable components added value services that other partners can use and make it easier to make a quick interaction within their business within their cases of use The first of these generic components that we want to incorporate within the H Plus network is the one that has to do with identity, with Alastria IDIT I'm not going to go into much detail because that's precisely what Maria is going to develop now but the goal is that we can create on this H Plus network different elements collaborating in the case of the Alastria IDIT component what it will allow is that a company that develops a project using HyperLayer Fabric today needs to have a node with another technology to be able to integrate with Alastria IDIT to be able to integrate within the network where all the credentials are being managed in this case what we are going to do is to migrate the concept of Alastria IDIT to HyperLayer Fabric so that those companies who want to use this component can do it without having to integrate other technologies through the deployed component in the H Plus network in the same way that we are talking about new functionalities new added value services that the partners can incorporate within the H Plus network we are also talking about our objective is that through the H Plus network we can not only interoperate with other networks that exist within the Alastria area but we can also interoperate with other networks that exist outside of Alastria an example is the European network of Blockchain the objective is that through the H Plus network as a proxy as a connector with other types of networks within Alastria the capabilities that HyperLayer Fabric offers in the H Plus network they can also consume services, connect with companies and generally use the capabilities that they offer other networks such as this European network of Blockchain or why not other networks that exist such as Lac-Chain which is the prime of Alastria in the Latin American environment and well without further we answer at the end the questions you may have about this proposal of the H Plus network and I give a step to María so that I can deepen a little more what is this of Alastria and what is the planning that we are doing together with Inetum to be able to offer to the partners this component in the H Plus network phenomenal thank you very much Jorge I'm also going to share screen confirm me please as long as you are watching we already see it fantastic well my part I'm María Salgado, Blockchain Manager Inetum, Inetum is the name that we have of a new company that is formed by the fusion of two technological consultants that are GFI and Yecisa Inetum is our new name our new brand and we have new challenges one of them is to add us to this initiative to deploy Alastria ID in the H Plus network as Jorge has said that productive network for Alastria partners what is this of Alastria ID well I'm sure that all of you have self-managed identity but to put a little context we have many current problems with the digital identity in the first place we have many digital identities and those digital identities are not spoken among them there are different standards lack of interoperability we have too well let's say that we are too digital me that really contains replicada I'm already totally unable to say how many companies or organizations I have shared it or data like my post office I have shared it with so many companies that I don't know and then when I change from office I'm unable to do it even if I wanted I couldn't notify all of them of this change that's why there is information that isn't exact, wrong information about general data protection in short many problems regarding how we currently manage our information in our personal data our digital identity we could say that the digital identity right now is organized in silos in information silos our information is fragmented and that's another place to the typical problems of information why use blockchain to propose a new digital identity scheme because you already know that blockchain comes to change the paradigm they come to say that they are no longer so necessary those intermediaries in our business models have so much importance in our information schemes they have taken so much relevance I work in a technological consultant at the end it's a technology company Alastria is a consortium in which there are not only technology companies there are also B2B, B2B as well as other sectors and what do I mean by this I mean that blockchain comes to give an answer to a real demand of society not a demand that maybe a group of freaks with all the respects a group of freaks we have invented we have planned with the pandemic we have been able to see it when applications like RADAR COVID came out we are very aware with the privacy of our data I speak of the person of the street of the day to day we are worried about our personal data because we have lost control because we see that if I want comfort using Google or Facebook I have to sacrifice my privacy somehow I have to choose between comfort or privacy so why choose why do I always have to trust my data in an intermediary that then commercialize with them if they are exploited somehow because when I say I'm going to a first communion then I'm seeing communion coins in Amazon all day if I didn't look for it because this doesn't matter so much this concept of sovereign identity is something that has been going on for a long time but in consortiums like Alastria in which all the partners like Monse and Jorge also collaborate around common use cases a model has been presented that gives response to the 10 principles of sovereign identity which are a little more philosophical and it is AlastriaID AlastriaID is a model of self-managed identity that has not only a technical specification but that has an open source development that you can find in public in the Alastria JitHub repositories which we are very proud of because we have done it among many partners of Alastria among more than 100 participants right now there is a first minimum viable product that consists of an implementation of Ethereum it is deployed in one of the Alastria networks in the network T which is in Quorum and it also contains some reference implementations that simulate being a company or that also simulate being a valid identity the AlastriaID project has served as inspiration to the European project of sovereign identity of the European Commission SIF according to the UNE that has recently come out UNES that Spanish standardization committee and right now we are already in the hands of CENCENELEC which as Montse said is the European standardization committee the model of Alastria goes hand in hand and there is a legal team that is compliance with EIDAS and with the general regulation of data protection with other rules that also apply and of course the standard of Alastria makes use of the definitions of verifiable credentials that the W3C proposes I see that a lot of things are jumping in the chat but then we answer them all how does it work if I say that I am a doctor in philosophy and in Greek I can put it in the link but I am saying it from myself that means that it is not verified right? then how do the models of self-managed identity work how does the model of Alastria work the model of Alastria presents three roles credentials emissors that are those that can give testimony of some data of a subject that subject now I am talking a little from the point of view of whether that subject is a physical person but it could also be a legal person it could even be an animal a process or something with a physical person it feels a little better and then the third role is that of the service provider that is to say, sorry the service provider is the one who is going to give a service to the subject and for that it needs certain data, that is to say if I want to buy a car I have to share the data of my driving license to the company of car rental the company of car rental would be the service provider a little with these three roles described now what you are seeing on the screen is the model of Alastria identity as you can see the data, this is one of the things if you have to stay with two messages of what it gives, one is this the data is not in the blockchain in the model of Alastria identity the verifiable credentials are exchanged between the different actors of chain, that is, through secure channels and always go through the user identity wallet the wallet of identity is a mobile application from which the user controls who shares the data in each moment look at one thing there is no relationship there is no arrow in this scheme between what is the one who receives the credentials and the one who emits the credentials there is not because this is a model of sovereign identity who is the sovereign, who is the owner of the data the subject then the data emissor gives the data to the subject and the subject shares it with who he wants and the emissor totally loses the traceability that is, they have no idea of who shares the data, the subject in each moment, this is very powerful and look, here we are using blockchain for no traceability, it is curious what do we leave in blockchain? in blockchain we only leave evidence of what has happened but evidence of such a way that not even those who have the nodes of the blockchain can profile the activity volume of some of the parts well, I leave you here some data then the presentation, I'm sure we share it I do not want to extend it especially then I'm going to pass if I get into the subject of jasses to tell you that this model is designed by many technical people but by many lawyers then there is an emphasis, there is a very clear focus in preserving the privacy of the user then as I said a data is recorded in the blockchain less personal data the user, through a simple click can start a process of revocation of consent of the data all the events relative to a credential the parts that have the credential can confirm what has happened I explain to myself if right now the general direction of traffic gives me the flesh to drive and I share it with a car dealer and now I'm very bad driver and it takes away all the points the general direction of traffic and therefore my driving flesh is not valid right now there is no police and it takes away the driving flesh so that I can no longer teach it to anyone on the other hand, through this type of systems the emissor itself can mark that a credential stops being valid and therefore all the service providers who have that credential will be notified and then they will be able to request me again because Maria has given me a notification that this one that I have to drive is not valid can you send me your document to drive again or any process the mechanism that we do of hashing is called private sharing multi hashing this means that for each of the objects we calculate two hashes in such a way that you can not even trace that I had a relationship with the general direction of traffic if you want now we go into detail in all the subject of how the hashes are calculated interoperability is like a trending topic hot topic in terms of blockchain well Alastria has several networks and it will have many more networks as Montse has said, this is to innovate this is not to stop growing right now we have the network T in Quorum we have the network B in Besu fixed in the diagram and we have the network H we are going to have the network H plus the model of Alastria is a formal model that means that it defines how the credentials are what fields they should have in the end it defines JSON web tokens it defines that format and it also defines certain well what is the integration layer it defines certain interfaces from there the implementation of that identity model or that is done in Besu or that is done in Fabric can be totally different in the model that we have right now deployed in the network T we have a series of smart contracts and for each of the people who create an identity that is to say that they create a DID that is called the decentralized identifier we have a smart contract that represents you on the network this for example is not viable in the schemes in a hyper-layer-fabric type with the chain code it is where Inetum and Telefonica we are starting to get our hands on the work to see how Jorge said and through Trastairi with certain specific chain codes or how we are going to be able to facilitate the Alastria partners who want to use this network who can also make use of the identity for them it is very important that the identity wallets that are developing as well follow the standardization proposed by AlastriaID that is AlastriaID proposes a layer of interface a layer of integration so if those wallets of identity are faithful to those layers of integration that behind are connecting to a BESU network or a Red Quorum or a Red Fabric it is indifferent because they are using the same APIs the logic of what it does to load the partners to get this is the favorite word interoperable that is to say that this wallet of identity can have credentials and can share them with a company that has a case of use deployed in the H Plus network a case of use deployed in the network and with this I want to finish because I am sure there are many questions and I do not want to eat my agenda Perfect, thank you very much Maria, Jorge, Monse I want to congratulate you because you have adapted the timing in a perfect way so let's go we have several questions we have questions in the chat of Zoom and now I look if we have any questions on YouTube that we have also been transmitting live and let's go for the first question Borja Borja asks us how is the H Plus network going to be enabled in the H Plus network? I think this Borja has just launched it before I will tell you you are responsible If you want to know, even Maritere you can comment a little the part that Maria has passed a little on top of Trasteid and how it is made with the concept that Maria has commented Perfect to not steal the protagonists since you are the speakers and I am here as a moderator but at the end Trasteid is a centralized identity module that we release as open source code in phone last year within the HyperLayer Labs and the objective of Trasteid is not how to make the sovereign identity of the network but it is more focused on the centralized identity management in the different blockchain networks guaranteeing that interoperability that Maria commented at the end is not a identity solution that is ad hoc for a network but the objective that Trasteid has as such is to be able to create those mechanisms that we needed so that the identity can be interoperable and then on that interoperable identity to be able to create the mechanisms of the self-sovereign identity So, well I think one of the fundamental aspects when we talk about applying or mapping what has been done with Trasteid a network like HyperLayer Fabric is that the identity management mechanism that exists today in HyperLayer Fabric does not compile with that model in which each of the people has their own identity and has to manage information related to that identity It does not make sense to create credentials in the CAA of HyperLayer Fabric for each of the people or each of the companies that have to interact in the environment that does not work that is the reason why in Telefónica we created this concept about HyperLayer Fabric and it is one of the components in which the solution of Trasteid on HyperLayer Fabric would be combined somehow all the experience that Inetum has in the development of Trasteid on other networks the management of the wallet with the centralized identity of HyperLayer Fabric that Telefónica has developed and to complete from the Alastria Identity Commission there are public some test of interoperability that if you are developing some solution of the Selsovereign Identity and those that you want to use are super simple they are scripts in Node that with credentials that you generate or that you use in your wallet and others you can execute and they will tell you exactly what is missing, what is not missing because in the end it is something that seems very big, very philosophical and then it really translates to that you have not put the point of command where you had to put it sometimes they are stupid things so tell you that of course we will keep you updated and that from the Identity Commission there is a lot of interest to interoperate because there are initiatives that all follow the same standard perfect thank you in this comment that we launched a commission with its own entity of interoperability that this is the we have already begun to meet and there have been solutions that have been presented this week and to encourage those who are part of that you are already partners of Alastria to participate in this commission and those who are not partners to encourage you to join perfect let's go to the next question from Juana Alastria H Plus then it is a private hyper-label managed by Telefónica what difference does it make regarding other blockchain services I think the question is for Papa Jorge for me, right? yes what we are proposing is an infrastructure that from the point of view of availability, scalability services it provides the same than a blockchain as a service but we do not stay there the goal is to create an additional layer a layer of components that can be the Alastria ID or other components facilitate not only the one that you can explain about a hyper-label infrastructure but you can also take advantage of the components that develop the rest of the partners within the network as this can be the case of Alastria or other components that can be developed in the future in addition to that the H Plus network has the goal of interoperating as we mentioned before we have not only the goal of giving an infrastructure to deploy in code but also to connect with other types of networks you can take advantage of the federation of networks the one you can reach to other actors within a process that may interest you that they have presence they have deployed their services in other networks in a fast and simple way I think that the sum of all this is completely different from a traditional provider within a service Perfect, thank you very much Jorge we have another question from Armando What improvements do you make compared to the H Plus network compared to the network T and the network B Ok, I will answer if you want I think this is the next one and then we will know if you want and so you can tell the little ones because they also ask about the SLA that I think is related with this question Yes, it seems to you I am going to mix the two and then if you want Monze you also bring your vision the different networks of different technologies and the different platforms offered by the partners within Alastria they are going to be available because if someone wants to develop a solution on Quorum or a solution on HyperLayer BESU they are going to have the networks that exist from the technological point of view because each network has its characteristics and depending on the needs of each of the projects it will have more sense to approach it with Quorum, with HyperLayer BESU or with HyperLayer Fabric I think the second point is the one that gives that differentiation in the end in the H Plus network what we are guaranteeing is precisely that level of service that quality of service what we are guaranteeing is that if a bug is produced in HyperLayer as Juanma says we have the capacity to be able to solve that bug to be able to lift and recover the service and to transfer that bug towards the development team of HyperLayer Fab it is complicated to get in a blockchain environment as a service when we talk about environments we are using the open source versions of HyperLayer Fabric and that is one of the additional values that we are going to have within the H Plus network great, we have another question Dalonso who asks us if the HyperLayer Cactus project is for the SAPIS I understand that it goes for the interoperability part so Monse, I leave it all to you Yes, in fact in the interoperability group we started with Cactus we did a first session of understanding what was technology what was Cactus and the project and how it was linked and that is where we are exploring in fact, it is one of the themes in exploration within the interoperability group there you have Maria so you have to comment on this too but nothing about reinventing the wheel at first it is about adding and making the wheel better every day if there is component sorry we commented that it could also be a good idea when you are advancing more in the interoperability group and with the results that we can obtain with HyperLayer Cactus even being able to make a meet up and share our experience with this technology so we have no intention to reinvent the wheel in fact, Alastria is now member of HyperLayer just like Telefónica member of HyperLayer and we not only use components that are developed within the Paraguas of HyperLayer as Cactus can be at the moment, you also have to take into account the degree of maturity of the different components it is not the same something that is developed within the labs and that it is incubating that a project that has really happened in the productive environment of HyperLayer has a support and guarantees especially when we talk about projects that are developed in the field of entrepreneurship and to analyze all the components that give us value and as we have already done in Telefónica we are even going to release those elements that we think can bring value to other people as is the case of Trastei Perfect we have many questions I have completely lost the thread I'm sorry I'm going to the next question there was a question about Dalion that maybe we have the question about Dalion's project that he has answered Maria, I don't know if you want to answer I answered it through the chat because then I think there is a very relevant question as it could be the one at the cyber security level what advantages can this network offer that now Jorge if you want to answer you on Dalion's project briefly I see that the interest in the chat tell you that Alastria wants to compete with her partners Alastria wants to promote the competition this means what Monse that we collaborate at certain levels but that doesn't take away that the partners compete at other levels then from the identity commission for example a reference implementation of an identity wallet has been developed but that identity wallet won't be in the app stores so that we don't use it we leave it to make it the technology companies then precisely in the Dalion project companies from all sectors have agreed to those reference implementations make some implementations that are productive and they can use and put in their markets and compete at all levels then this goes to the Dalion project it's going to be in real life it's going to be productive the planning of the identity commission there is part of the development of the identity commission that is used for example the development of smart contracts and they have deployed it and in Dalion they use it there are those two levels we share one part but then in another part we compete and the Dalion project is there it's super interesting, I have left a link so that you know it we have public administrations as observers in the project and the private public collaboration is super interesting and this project we don't know if it's going to benefit from this H Plus network in the future we don't know, this is not yet planned I'm going to try to make a very quick summary leave me a little bit because what Maria said I think that many times you don't understand very well Alastria because you don't understand this Alastria would be like a chain of assembly of a prototype everything that is done from the design model of a standard to the implementation of references is accelerated among many so that later there is that competition based on something that is already solid that has already been prototyped that there are already learning lessons and that can be worked on top of it and there the competition is generated which is what we want is to boost the digital economy so as not to reinvent the wheel and do things in itself that can be done as much as possible to put it in common so Dalion is a very, very clear example like other projects like Raúl I don't know if I want to do other projects but I was going to say other projects like Digitalis or others that can be seen but in Alastria now we are with more than 60 cases of business or business agent that is already doing their models and in this sense the association brings the base Jorge, I cut you off before I forgive you I am going to try to condense the questions that are there because in a minute I will not have much time the infrastructure that is being presented on the H Plus network is an infrastructure that is going to have base with a security audit that means that everything that is deployed from 0 within the environment will give guarantees to the partners that will be deployed in their use cases that the entire infrastructure is mounted with guarantees that the services that can run on it have both the guarantee of operation as well as the guarantee not only that they cannot be attacked from the point of view of external actors on the network but also that internal actors that can manage the nodes will not have visibility nor the information that each of the partners has in their use cases, in their own channels nor the chencodes, for example one of the things that is going to be implemented within the H Plus network is the possibility that the partners deploy chencodes on the infrastructure but chencodes in binary so that even though we can deploy that business logic on the network and that the use case works within the H Plus network we cannot even see how it is defined that logic we have talking about performance and architecture of that coupling, components in the end what we are thinking on the network is that performance adapts to the needs of each of the partners I think we have lost Jorge, right? We have lost, yes Have you lost? A little You have been cut in minutes I have spoken a lot in a minute What I was talking about is that the network is going to be deployed We have lost when you spoke just about the components The goal is to deploy a base infrastructure with a performance that adapts to the needs of each of the partners if the partner has specific needs of performance it will deploy a specific infrastructure for that partner that can fulfill those needs of performance without penalizing the rest of the partners Imagine that the network would share that performance between all partners and there would only be a partner that would demand a high transactional volume The rest of the partners would be penalized and there would be specific infrastructure of each of the partners to guarantee that each of them has the performance that needs the decoupling of the components of a particular client The clients will deploy and the clients will do two things either use the components previously deployed on the common channels and the APISOs that can be incorporated to be able to use those components, as can be the case of Alastra ID and then they will be able to deploy on their own channels and their own infrastructure the chencos that they develop those two modes when we talk about components of a client the client will only have visibility on the components that they can deploy mapping component to chenco in the rest of the components all partners will have visibility of the components of the common components when we talk about GDPR and it is an important aspect each of the partners of each of the clients will be augmented so that practical effects of the client will have their own blockchain and that means that the data will not be shared between clients it is also important to face the normative compliment that the infrastructure will be mounted on the telephonic infrastructure in the national territory and that is relevant for example with the public administration that they have to publish and comply with the regulations and guarantee that the data will not be stored away from the European territory and as a last question I think I have already answered at the cyber security level what does this network offer what I mentioned before from minute 0 the network will come out with guarantee and with a security audit all the infrastructure levels to guarantee that all the components that we are going to put at the disposal of the partner to deploy their projects are audited and comply with all the needs of the security point of view we are also going to implement those mechanisms that the partners require we do not want to make an extraordinarily complex environment without an adapted environment for example those partners for whom it is critical to have a management of keys with a security plus we are going to incorporate HSM within the Hatterleger Fabric of the H-plus network so that the credentials that can be generated within that particular client can be managed through these specific components and that the client has the guarantee that no one has access to the private keys with which they are working within that private case and I do not know if there is any other if there is any more question I have left my email in the chat so that the objective also of the half is to reserve to present that it consists of the H-plus network of Alastria that cases of use are going to be deployed as the digital case and solve doubts that I have seen there are quite a few so we are staying without time and as the objective was also to dedicate time to doubts if you have any doubt I have left my email you can contact me if you can also contact me on social networks like LinkedIn and I am already in charge of pursuing our speakers and give me an answer as soon as possible and nothing else comment again that on March 22 we have another very interesting half I leave you the link in the chat also for you to point out to see if we can make the community of HyperLayer in Madrid much stronger and also promote the content in Spanish within HyperLayer that many times we miss them if it is all in English and nothing, and just with this also commented that there is a group to be able to translate right now the documentation of HyperLayer Fabric to Spanish and if you are interested in participating and being able to contribute your little grain of sand to the ecosystem of HyperLayer well, you also have my contact and we move it and so well, you also know that it is the power to collaborate in this type of projects that of course a lot so well, thank you very much Monse, Maria and Jorge for your time for having made this presentation so fantastic and and nothing thank you very much thank you for all the organization and nothing is available thank you I join you to what you say a pleasure thank you very much goodbye thank you and now good organizer David, we have finished it great, great, all in the live stream, thanks thank you, bye bye