 Hello, I think I can start now. Yeah, if you just want to start Benjamin. So it's eight o'clock, let's go. Thanks. My name is Benjamin Henry. I'm Belgian. I work with Peter. I knew Peter since 2005. I met Peter somewhere around the UK Parliament. We were fighting the software patent directive and Peter was running a company, IITX, a Belgian company based in Brussels. And the company was doing a gateway to do SMS to email. And they received a thread letter from a patentor who was claiming a patent on matching a telephone number to an email address in a database. Basically the concept of an email to an SMS to email a gateway. So I might think it was developing a product for very approximate time. And the patentor sent thread letters to any, basically any tech company in Belgium or any company that was doing a gateway for SMS to email. And so Peter had a project with Approximates Begacom for events or like you send a short SMS. And so Approximates was threatened. And they said basically after a week that they're going to drop the project where Peter invested quite a lot of resources in people. And in that time it ended up as the termination of the project and it fired five people at IITX. And that's where it came to the software patent debate because at the time the UK Parliament was debating it quite heavily. And when I went there, where he was speaking around the UK Parliament it was like a hotel with MPs. And the EPO and other enemies were trying to destroy any presentation from our side. Destroying the projector, destroying the presentation, making noise, whatever. And Peter was so upset and said, okay this is my turn, I'm going to make it and destroy this whole thing. Peter was so upset and for me he made the best speech I've ever seen on the topic. He was a victim of patent trolling which was not called patent trolling at the time because patent trolling came in 2006 with RIM and NTP in the US at least. And so I met him afterwards and we successfully managed to stop the directive in a way where the large companies basically asked to drop the directive and that's what the UK Parliament did. And they did that to better push for what is called the community patent or now the unitary patent which is being currently ratified in all the EU countries. So the fight we had was very intense. I was spending most of my time on this and I had to delay my university final examination and at some point he said being the new president of the AFI Association he said I need your helping process, we're going to work together. And that was 2006 and basically six months after the rejection of the directive in July the commission announced that they're going to relaunch the community patents and the attempt to create a patent system for Europe. So it gave us a lot of work. We worked on UPACO which is the European Patent Conference. And then at some point I set up a website called knowexamal.org where I set up a petition against the standardization of open XML which is .x and .xxx and so on that Microsoft tried to standardize in ISO because they saw that ODF was already in ISO standards and all the governments were trying to impose ODF as a reference standard. So Microsoft could not be in any public court for public markets which are big markets. And then so we had this big fight about the week seven which is now ten years, it's going to be the ten years anniversary this year. So I set up this petition and it was Friday and we were testing the new wiki.platform which is a wiki farm I invested in the company in Poland. We were testing the new module for the petition and so we put up this petition online. I put it up and I booked the domain name knowexamal.org and Peter said it's never going to work. So of course nobody is going to type. And then I launched the petition on Friday night and when we came back on Monday morning we had like 10,000 teachers from Lillex Russia or something. So that's how we started to work on this. We didn't have really any plans but we got hooked up and at some point I think a lot of people had good memories of crazy stories with Microsoft's cold partners with the committees, corrupting the process and at the end we put a price for the best team who was fighting the OpenXML standardization and we put out the prize money of 3,000 euros and at the end we were looking at who was the best team again OpenXML and Peter came with the idea that Microsoft itself was the best team to fight against its own standard. So he crafted out the prize, the Kayak Award and gave it to Microsoft and later on Peter was invited to talk on a podium with a Microsoft speaker and the Microsoft spokesman was a bit irritated because he asked Peter, is that you who gave us this fucking award? So after that he made a nice song. A great man who spent his life looking for the truth. This is called Microsoft. This is one of the dryers that Peter wrote in a sarcastic way. I was giving it out in a platform in the train station to politicians and this one created some controversy inside our group because it was sarcastic. So we agreed on it and we were trying the engine to make campaigns and Peter had the idea to design the best keyboard. So he wasn't set with this cap-slug to go in an uppercase which actually comes from a long time ago when you had turned it over and he wanted to get rid of it so he made a contest for the best keyboard design and I think there was some winner for some layout or that was really fun. So in the history, I don't know if there are still users of Xitami in the room. So I had a friend who was using this web server in the 90s under Windows and actually that was the number one web server in around 1997 or 2008. He got many awards and that was like the best... Before Apache was one of the best web servers and I think he was known. There were a lot of users, especially in Windows for that. I'm going to quit the slides. Actually Peter didn't like much when you have slides. So I worked with Peter for three years from 2006 to 2009. Then at the end I made work on OpenMQ with the MQP standardization workbook where there was Red Hat, IBM, all the others. Peter developed very interesting concepts around code generation. Most of the Xitami web server was based on code generation with tools like GSL, Libero, where basically you define model in XML which defines your application and then GSL is going to generate SQL. I think he was one of the few persons in the world who adopted this methodology with a focus on t-threading, let's say, have the best usage of all your resources. After this period I worked on OpenMQ which was the broker, basically in the messaging world you have the client, the server, and basically you put the broker as a server and you talk to it. So we had a client in New York where we were trying to optimize the speed and get the highest number of messages per second. We could get with the broker, OpenMQ broker, and basically after a while it took me a while to realize that we were working on high frequency trading. So we had this model, we had this standardization work as well, and at some point Peter was very upset about Red Hat. Red Hat filed a number of patents around the MQP. Red Hat was also one of the chairman of the committee tried to basically buy his credit for putting his name as the main author of the specification, which made Peter very upset and very, let's say, very upset about this whole standardization process. So at some point he spent a lot of money on trying to participate in the standard process and he just went out of the process and looked for better solutions. And so this search for speed came to the simple model which is point to point. So when you have two points, without the broker in the middle of the third broker and the third point, you remove the broker and you have messages between A to B and you try to maximize the speed you can get between those two points and try to remove the broker in the middle. And that gave birth to ZeroQ. ZeroQ was bought by Imitics from a Slovakian company, Martin, somewhere in Slovakia. And they basically focused on that aspect for a while and they managed to get the highest performance I have seen grass that basically they were destroying all the other competitors on the market with million messages. And so the frustration with opening Q-Givers to ZeroQ, which at the beginning was really like a network library for developers, which it still is. But with the time there were many more people coming, so ZeroQ is done in C++ and that's a core library and there are bindings for I don't know how many languages on top but basically whether it's Rust, Python, or Java, or OCaml, or I think we used the one which languages on top. We used funny languages on top. So you have this big community trying to make things connected together, talking together. Typically you need to load, do those balance things across multiple servers. You would use ZeroQ for that. And then I think 2009 to 2010, Peter had a project with Samsung in South Korea, where the goal was to make two phones, two smartphones, talk to each other. And they worked on some kind of a mesh with a Wi-Fi. And at some point I think he went to some sushi restaurants. And he came back from South Korea with some yellow skin. I visited him at the hospital at the time. And apparently when you eat sushi and fish, that is not very fresh fish, but with some kind of parasite in there. The parasite develops something and it do them. And this creates some kind of cancer cells. So the yellow color was coming from this area which was damaged by growing cancer. So he got an operation out of that. They removed part of the genome. And from that moment in time I think his life changed. He started to take more time with his family, write some books about programming, about ZeroQ. And he was a different man. He took the decision to totally drop any effort in writing operative code anymore. And he focused on building the ZeroQ community and writing only free software. And promised to never write operative software or closed software again. And looking at it from the outside, you can understand that someone wants at some point when his life might be shortened to the near future through the trace. So the trace now is mostly the ZeroQ community where we had a hackathon this weekend. Last year, the same period, the hackathon in his garage. And I think a month after we had the last conference in Munich and he came back very sick. I told him to visit the doctor and the results coming from the doctor, coming from the test were that he had metastasis in both lungs. He was coughing a lot. So I thought we were working in the garage. That was our new office that we keep it warm. And I thought it was something else, but it was his cancer that was back. And the diagnosis was pretty much saying there's no chance to get out of it. So that was in April. We organized a big party in his garage in June. So from there we tried to visit him as much as I can. And he made a very important blog post about the protocol for dying. And this blog post went viral on the internet to the point where the TV in Belgium, the newspaper in Belgium, both in the north and south, were interested in this story, which is basically saying when someone is dying, don't try to cry on the phone. Try to remember the good times. This went translated into many languages. Many people got touched by it. It's a reference. And basically they tried to say what was the diagnosis, what were the recommendations to talk to a dying person, what you should say, what you should not say. And I think at some point he got a death, which is different from the normal way, which in a sense he could clean things up before leaving. And he used his Twitter account quite as a means for communicating with other people. And I think his father died in April and he chose to, his father chose to use a botanist here, which is legal in Belgium. And he said he's going to use the same method for deciding when he's going to leave. So I'll let you read. I'll give you one minute. Let you read the top. So now I don't know what time is it, 23. So I recommend you. He talks about those YouTube videos and recordings of conferences, where he went. So I prepared part of the video that it's an interview made by someone from Bilstaff in Vancouver where he interviewed him like in July. And I think you could recognize. It's a long interview, it's like one hour, but the introduction is kind of... So I'll leave it. We had one hour of the session, not good for my kids today, but... Okay. Yeah, so maybe a good start just to explain why we are where we are, and you wrote the protocol and maybe a little bit of the history of how that unfortunate happened just so other people are aware of these kinds of things exist. So you're calling that? Yes, we are. So yeah, the model is not a cheap solution. Okay. It's expensive. There's this... A lot of them have diseases which are dramatically bad and which are developed by the rest because they're not, you know, or as much money they're not really focused on research. Companies prefer to invest their time and effort in diseases for wealthy. Now, the poor... One of those diseases that is happening today is a little parasite, a little one, which is... which is... the life cycle is basically... if you want to fish, and if you eat the fish raw, and this is delicacy, if you want to grow fish or something like that, then the little one attaches into your... you're eating them and it sits there for quite some time. And the third point of time is to produce little carcinogens which produce too much. There's a worm feed on them because it likes it, because nature is weird like that. And so there's this... the age of 50 or so who just, basically, they turn yellow and they die. And that's the... suddenly your skin goes yellow, your eyes go yellow, you start peeing yellow and then a few weeks later it's melted to your dead. And this cost of business, basically, if you're poor male in Southeast Asia, and you eat fresh fish. So as I said, there is a growing stream of cheap black market fresh fish coming into Sushi and Cheek, which is your response. Cheek, Sushi, response. And so five years ago I began turning yellow and I'm male in 50, roughly. And my eyes go side to the yellow and I'm like, okay, this is not going to be such a check into the environments. And they do the scan and they find no blockage in my car, in my gallbladder. And my liver is fine. And so the only other option is a tumor in the... in the bile duct which turns out to be a cancer very aggressive and very far on the way, not yet metastasized, so still sitting in one space. And so they come you open and remove this thing. Must be like to them. This is from me, this thing that many tentacles of digital type. And this is an amazing procedure called a ripple wave. It's a replay of your whole internal system. And that was pretty... horrendous. But yeah, I got out of that and recovered from that, and we do most of us have pretty robust when you get a chance to be. And the medicine is pretty good. I'm impressed. I have to say that medicine is more than this. And especially in Belgium, my doctor always says that, you know, I mean, the papers of the state covers that as well. You do pay for this. It's not going to bankrupt you ever. And I had this kind of very freaky few years where I was, you know, I shouldn't have said that I wasn't taking any oxygen there because it was really very close both times. I mean, from the surgery it was very, very dangerous and the cancer was really aggressive. So I spent the next few years in a kind of a state of flu when I went out and said, wow, I shouldn't have taken that. And so this is I'm going to die at some point, but I might as well make the most of it. So, I decided to come right after I began writing my books. My book dates from about that point in time. And we had some interesting projects, but that began to work more and more from home in the same time in my case. You think everyone knows that you had pretty much a solid green contribution on your head? Yeah. It was shocking to see it sort of solid, obviously, for the last couple of months, but it was amazing to see just not a contribution from one person. Well, actually, the problem with the GitHub thing is it's setting itself up for the game, so for the last few days, instead of, I'm on a business cycle back to a project. And we, perhaps, used the data to actually do that data back now. It's just asking for it to be there and give people this kind of thing. I guess we all cheated some points, so that was my little advice. That's why I decided to basically destroy the whole thing with the MacMaren. Oh, right, that was a very fun pose. What was the name of that project again? Eastern, I don't know what I called it. Wacker, Wacker, that's right. Yeah, that's exactly what we were looking at. And it was kind of cool to be able to read the old contributions and build up new values, but you've got to build them up so they come to a constant, because otherwise you get these very bizarre effects all the new elements on top. Ah, city style. Yeah, so then, at the beginning of this year, I guess around just around the coast, again, I'm not my own. And it was a bit of a chaotic moment in our family because my data just actually were obsessed by that. So we're still figuring that one out. Death is a mess, generally, I noticed that. And what you can do to make death less and less, you know, doing things like preparing, just, you know, getting rid of stuff before you die, and it's that simple, but you get rid of stuff that you may appreciate before you die, and then when you intend the one that's to argue about, you know, who gets it, what you do with it, that kind of thing. So then I go to scan, and I go to biopsies, and I go on other scans, and I go blood tests, and they were like, yeah, you have got sample lungs, and it's the same kind. So come back, biotech. You know, which is pretty awful new because there's no chemotherapy for biotech. Like, no one has really spent much time on this. So the amount of interest that you're going through right now? They didn't tell me quite how experimental it is, or quite how much data they have, and they said for that to be, I had pneumonia from the biopsies, I've got pretty sick from that. They're poking holes in the lungs, bacteria, the blood granules shouldn't be there. So I have a basis for that, and then they were looking for a week and a week and a half, what kind of chemo can be used, and they found some data somewhere suggesting that a chemo which is used for colon cancer called fallfox, actually might work for bowel cancer, with a bit of lung. So that's what they're getting in, and they said that it's actually working. It is. Well, it's working, but it's doing something. I'm actually dead by that, by my own estimate. Yeah, from your initial, the news was for effort to hear how it was. So, you know, I've always told you to take step-by-fingers from something. Yeah. Don't ever give up on anything and putting faith in what we want to use that word into, you know, what's out there, what kind of science that's going on. So I'm very happy, and I'm sure everyone else has to hear that. Well, the science is very good, but the science doesn't care about individual cases. No. I'm just focused on data and collecting statistics, and, you know, there's a lot of gaps in there, all you have, even in this place I don't even know statistics, I don't know what the chances really are, so I'm very happy about that. I mean, if, you know, in the worst possible sort of outcome that doesn't work in the way it is, like you said before, there's more data, at least. That's what you said. Right, right, right. And the medical mission works by massive, massive, massive power local car traveling out. It has these procedures that apply very, very systematically, and they can be wrong in individual cases and when it gets data that shows where they're wrong, it will improve them. And over time, it's, you know, people keep sending me these emails suggesting we should try this, we should try that, this diet, this alternative, and actually puncture. I don't know what else smokes me, do you do? I'm like, yeah, all that stuff is fun, but, you know, you can't compare a handful of individual cases against the medical machine. It's just like, this is not a fair fight, you know. You did give up sugar, correct? Or is this something you did, right? I gave that up a long time ago. Well, excuse me, I'm going to stop this. That's what I did, we saw that. Yeah, I'm actually going to stop that because I really, really need the empty calories, like, that's not what I really need for that right now. I wish energy at this point or just to be able to get through the treatments. I've got two of them. The two of them are interesting. So it's basically one terrible week and one great week. Is it every two weeks are you going back into the week? Like this week? Yeah, I'd say. Okay, so you've got a couple of good days left to enjoy it before. Well, it's a little bit of a take effect and you're still okay on a Wednesday and on Thursday. It's a time curve, not too bad. It doesn't really have to have a couple of days and then it's just like, I'm vomiting and I'm not eating. If you touch my stuff all the time it gets to your mind and you don't sleep well. You know, you're tired and then you get better and better and everything begins to, you know, things come back into color and you can taste it again. It tastes like salt. Well, the benefits of you needing to go through this in your life is the proto-puffer dying, which was a huge critical and had a worldwide impact, I would say, given the fact people have interviewed you about it on television and other places. I was on television twice once in French, once in Dutch. It seems I'm a new one. An article, correct? Yes, regarding, yes. Lots of conversations. Everyone is touched by this. Of course, there is a very general thing about how you can go through this and experience it second hand and then for a time. One bit another and it's as soon as my dad died it was very difficult to know what to do as a family. There's very little advice out there of how to be an organiser, how to even deal with it. I'm sure there are lots of blocks and so on you could look for, but some of the things like, you know, getting this out of the way for the subcontinent stuff don't leave bizarre rules unless you've found it to fight. And he had to do the nature which was a good thing. He needed it because he was very old. He really had no life except writing a bit, losing control over things. And as a family you were able to use that to kind of plan things. It was very healthy, I thought it was very good for us. Not to have to just wait passively and come together and have the children there and do this and then he died. And it was very, very tiny and also I think very healthy way to have control. That's also what I wanted to write about the positive self that people are very afraid of death channels assisted suicide. It's really not that and it's really about taking control. Why are you afraid of death of the species keep ourselves going? Yeah, exactly. It's just a little bit of an agreement that doesn't want to die. But once you realize that it's really not that whether or not it dies, how do you do it which is really important to me. We tend to forget that. So when it's inspirational for us, aha. That's always inspirational. From my point I've obviously followed a lot of what you've done because of sort of how our past I came across all your work and to have met you last year was tremendous tremendous experience because you know, of everything that I thought was more than you step up amazing deal going you know everything you write about how you live about the social aspects where you were an introvert or like that was myself as well but we did set up I really identify with everything that you said and how you turned out because I also find tremendous stimulation of social things. So what you wrote about the community is incredible. We had a great time at the building and it was fantastic. It was very good. And the world Yeah, the world last five years and I've done that before but not quite so focused. What you realize is that most people are lovely. I mean, it's kind of confusing we have these broad generalizations you know all of these are but in terms of most people are lovely and most people are great to work with and are always motivated to be good actors. And that's kind of the core philosophy of our community is it's hard to trust everybody it's just like we have the data, we know that this is people are going to be good for the community and that is actually going to be bad for the community and you want to fill them out rapidly bringing them good and then creating them to do the right thing. I see a lot of that in the open source because you don't get to go open source and a lot of other endeavors have been open source and you know a lot of things would be nice to get from you as your outward, just the philosophy having you found the patent system the Edge Network you've started, done a bunch of other things I think the Edge Network kind of on side track is the core initiative to correct me if I'm wrong. So maybe we could guide them to a little bit of you know the open source side and what drives you you know why does Peter not use his Kizano's developers for the night but the pro sitting there hacking away at no real rails he's a guy that's got some interesting tech behind him and maybe going to that whole philosophy of why as a consumer you chose to make these choices to use certain equipment and use certain tech, we're not in a certain decade. So I just say that the journey doesn't really mean we don't make sometimes we can make any decisions but I think there are always built-in small steps and so first of all open source as a choice and I'm going to say clearly at a certain point maybe I'll say 40 years old that all of my closed source projects were dead like literally you would get money from a customer they would build stuff with them they would use it and then they would die and your supplier and their goal was to replace you and I had very very few customers whose goal was to build a long-term relationship and pay maintenance and I wanted to pay maintenance for 15 years but 30 days a week and the majority of customers working here you are a plumber, you are a lawyer you are at a pure cost and the company you build the stuff and you will use it and then you will go away and as soon as you can you will replace yourself with something else because that's what companies do, they like spending money and the open source software I made before when I was so ideologically motivated and I didn't need tools open source because I wasn't really ideologically I wanted to use it in my work and I couldn't sell them so I said okay I might as well work in the moment so before that it was freeware and shareware and then I realized okay GPL and I would use these tools just like we do in NBGSL because they were really necessary for the work I wanted to do and they may be a good consultant and they may be a much better developer so the tools themselves were free to share and then GPL and then other licenses and then I came back and I don't know you build a company, you make money, you have to earn money you have to pay and stuff so I went back into commercial software development and I realized afterwards it was just years in my life that were lost I guess my ego doesn't like that my ego likes to think that the stuff I make will survive I thought I had good ideas which is kind of true up to a point I shouldn't catch my ego it's all really bad but then I started to stop just this this trash and it was just temporary it was kind of offensive I thought we could do better and so I began really deliberately saying okay open source is the only way to go and then if I would if I had a way from this I would like to shop around a company in Poland which still survives but the company never really became success and the core reason was that the platform was closed and so we have this small company and all this money goes into software development and customer support and it's not an ego if you're building your own software by yourself you can't compete and the idea is that of course the whole stack is based on open source but it's not open source I hope you enjoyed it's 42 and we still have 5-10 minutes to give the floor to people you might have some anecdotes I had met him 5 years ago and made this silly decision not to meet him again for 5 years and so I had crazy time with him 5 years ago one evening then decided to wait until last hackathon that Benjamin mentioned and I was so impressed by looking at him working inside his community that he's actually applying the principle he was speaking about most people don't do that but they don't do it and he was really, really doing it that really got me impressed and so I kept some contacts in January last year which was unfortunately too late but that's how life is at least I learned something I just wanted to point one or two things that are related I was really, really interested by the tweet when he announced his death on October 4th I mean for 24 hours maybe more, all over Twitter people were really thanking him and I thought it was very impressive to see that what he just told about people being good for each other had some impacts in each other's life and we later did that 2 months later I met her over the internet and we were speaking on the project and she bites me to do per programming over the internet which was the first time for me I guess I must have done it before but for me it was the first time and we started to get some contacts and I mentioned that I'm looking at her software because I looked at GSL from Peter and I saw her software because at the Peter event I met someone that mentioned L to me and suddenly she has really touched because she says oh you know I met Peter he was such a great guy so we had no relations at all so I just wanted to point this open source stuff and huge stuff 2 months after he was dead he was still there among us so I guess that his ego must be taken care of in a way that's it yeah I met Peter like a few years ago I was really in trouble building distributed systems and well not very experienced in it and I met his work very well crew you know I can talk a lot about this technology and Peter was really a mentor in that field but yeah what struck me most was Peter his personality his huge personality but it was not about technology it was really about humans he was really I've never been so welcomed by somebody in a community and this really struck me like whoa like there was something happening and this was such an inspiration and yeah I think he kind of bundled it in this C4 collective construct construct contract actually I don't know what it is for C4 actually I think it's when we talk about technology then it's always this programming but he was really about protocol stuff and this is also a social contract and yeah I think that's a huge legacy when I heard that he was going to die I was really like we're gonna lose a big thing here keep this going and I'm really happy that I'm here again with lots of people from the zero community and we were doing it he just wrote a protocol on how to do it have a very open and very welcoming community that's solving the problems of community so yeah when Peter was a big inspiration and I think that's his legacy that this is something everybody can pick up because it's a contract and it's just it's just an advice it's not only about technology it's for life protocol for dying translate so many languages and broadcast on television I work for a television in Holland now and even on there they knew about Peter they had seen this work and I was like ok amazing I settled in Belgium 20 years ago and I knew Peter at that time less than one year after and since I'm not in permanent contact and so I see all the vibrations and of course I'm not so technical anymore now so I didn't follow the end but of course regarding the social process to collaborate and also a good message that it was always challenging when we discussed with him it was always challenging it was always challenging it was a good inspiration so yes at the end you wrote all the books and you can agree you can disagree with some of the writing in particular when it's not technical but it's always challenging so it's a great legacy we can thank you and we'll try to pursue some of his initiatives and also it's difficult and you would like to make them jump into this I met Peter about three years ago through my Bachelor's studies and we were trying to build a future year Dropbox and basically we were just trying to use it and suddenly I was in the serum community doing pull requests on language I didn't even know but at the time just because the process he built working in the community was so much fun actually working remote in the community with all of you guys it's one of the greatest experiences I had in my life and it worked really and most of the time way more efficient than working with colleagues at a company I'm not sure how that's possible probably because of his protocols and yeah Peter was always had always great advice and I really really liked working with him and I only met him last June at his wake which was far too late because I missed a couple of opportunities but I'm glad that I knew him although I met people three years ago we knew him for three years the experience was really intense so we all started when three years ago we decided and we were looking for 0MQ and our team that we are going to invite and we'll see what he has to say and this turned out to be one of the best decision I can say now that he managed to change ways that I can begin to describe this is basically what I consider to be this guys to be Peter's legacy I mean he was not just about technology the experience you would have with Peter would change anything for myself he made me a better person a better father and he would talk about basically any topic with him and he was so smart his mind was so like cutting through the stuff that would be a partner in this guy I guess thank you so much so hello my name is Michal I met Peter at the same location as Karol because we are working in the same team we were really lucky when we chose 0MQ and decided to invite Peter for the training because the plan was that we will learn the technology it turns out the technology was the least important information we get we got a lot of things from the beginning how to write code how to build and how to train how to fail paths how to improve yourself I still remember our discussion about the problem solution which was this is something trivial to think about you have the problem and solution this is not how most people operate and he focused us a lot about that it turns out that the most important information we learned was the liberation of reality and about the back-actors which is especially the psychopathic book is something I personally started to recently and realized that this was the most important thing we learned about the social aspect how to organize how to deal with the people which are not able to work in this process so I am not going to repeat all those my thanks you already are please allow me to speak even though I did not know Peter personally I have seen him here once it was here I think it was in 2011 and since then I was so intrigued by him I followed his online persona and he was called one of the one of the beautiful intellectuals of our community out of which people like him are indeed very rare and I just remember that in his last tweets but mostly as an author and his legacy is there his books are there, they deal about software but they deal about the people they deal about the good things and people about fostering communities about societies and about bad things too in the psychopathic book I find these books tremendously invaluable, readable full of creative insights of disruptive insights of intriguing ideas these books are there, one can buy them and also just download them they are as free licensed as the software was it's all there and by reading his books plenty of people can still get plenty of insights of Peter so my story is similar to the others all the people I've told I started working in the 0MQ community about two years ago because I needed to work and I found a small bug so I sent a call across and all the projects that I can contribute to normally I expect my requests to stay there for weeks maybe one and be ignored and then when someone finds the lucid then the backshedding starts and no do it red no do it green but when I sent the request to CitizenQ it was merging about the fragments and that was Peter's C4 process it removed all the bush the backshedding all the arguing from the community and it liberated us to start writing our code and make something better because in the end as others have said the code might rot it might be broken it might be fixed but the community matters and as long as we survive as a community the libraries and the planning and everything else will also go on I think as others have said Peter's most important place so thank you Peter I know nothing about codes I'm Peter's sister and I sort of thank you all very much for being here and for Bezhamah for organizing it I saw the kids this afternoon they're looking healthy they're fine and I think my brother would be very happy that you honored him in this way and I just really appreciate it that's it and I'm a lecturer that's why I speak loudly originally this should have been a small reminder on the IoT development very shortly and then asked me to make a long talk and I really appreciate it all the contributions there's a lot of legacy around Peter and Kerry's spirit by his books on Amazon I think there's also a PayPal account where you can donate for the kids so think about think about small kids that don't have a father and so if there is at least things you can do is to buy his books and donate thank you very much for visiting Kostya this is the last talk here thank you see you tomorrow