 Why does the government have a target to reduce prison populations by 30% but not a target to reduce violent crime? Mr Speaker, as the member will know, having worked across corrections that if you are seeking to reduce a prison population, that is often the equivalent of reducing recidivism. Many of the people in our prison population are circulating back through, so, if you focus on rehabilitation programmes, that makes a difference. if you focus on having as prisoners exit work to ensure that they are in employment and those things that prevent re-offending then you ultimately also reduce victimisation. That if you are seeking to reduce the prison population that is often the equivalent of reducing recidivism.