 Being here I have 40 minutes I hope to have some time for questions for you guys as well. I'll try and talk in say 30 35 minutes I'll give you an overview of free and open source software in public administrations in Europe. I've been writing for a project at the European Commission for 10 years so the main thing I'll try and do here is give you a set of tips a set of things that public administrations need to do a set of things that we can check whether public administrations have them in place that will make them slowly switch to open source. A few disclaimers I am an external contractor I'm just a journalist I happen to be in the lucky position to work for the European Commission I am not the European Commission so the things I say here are my view not the commission's view and when I talk about free software I mean open source I'm when I say open source I mean free software for me as a person it's more or less synonymous so when you see it behind me on the screen go either way this talk has six chapters I'll give you as I announced the that yes we'll need a bigger beamer this is as big as it gets sorry you can control the control and the plus button is that better once more as long as I don't use my lose my notes better again can we have your votes okay else again so I'll give you the the the main things that I see that are requirements for public administrations I will quickly this is the desktop development room I'll quickly run through the main desktop implementations that we have in Europe I will give you the key policies I will talk briefly about what are the expected benefits when public administrations go to open source one of the things that worries me is the point that's called what's missing because there's a few things missing but I first need to talk about the OSHA project but so just to bear with me for five seconds I'll show you how it works this is the how-to these are the main implementations the key policies the expected benefits and what's missing some of these slides go deep and so that's what happens here so first the open source observatory we have more than 2,000 news items we have case studies we have best practices we have how-tos the project tries to cover any public administration that uses open source that implements open source is thinking about doing this or is considering to stop doing it we bring a lot of positive news because the trend is public administrations are going to open source but every now and then it goes wrong so we report about that as well it's the open source observatory and repository so we have a catalog of solutions made for and by public administrations there's some 4,000 of them that's also it's not all done at the commission level that we link repositories in the member states there's a whole bunch of them like 12 in Spain there's a bunch in there's one or two in Austria we have one in the Netherlands there's one in Belgium when you search for solutions on the OZOR you will find the solution in the Austrian and the Spanish repositories and vice versa and the collection of these tools a lot of this is for electronic identification or for electronic procurement anything to do with E government those solutions are being built increasingly as open source it's you will hardly come across a public administration at these days is no longer developing tools as proprietary that hardly ever happens something that we're very proud of or happy that we have done it is develop the EUPL it's sort of a fork of the GPL why was that necessary the commission has a principle that all of the software that the commission now publishes is done as open source whole bunch of lawyers looked at the GPL and sort of feared that if the EC would do this and there was some kind of problem somewhere down the line they would have to fly to the US to argue in the US courts something about European made software that they didn't want to do so that's one big reason that they use the GPL and change a bunch of things so that they could say you go to a court in one of the member states and if that doesn't work you can go to a court in Brussels in Belgium so that was one reason another thing that is I think personally really cool is that they did this license in all the languages of the European Union that's 23 if I'm not mistaken that means that you can use as a German developer the German EUPL and it's legally the same as the Dutch or the French or the Maltese or the Greek so that makes working together as public administration is a lot simpler so some a little bit of context the the OZOR is part of the is one of the small programs of the ISA square program I don't I wouldn't want to bother you with the details but the commission has a bunch of ministries one of them is the ministry for IT is called DG IT digit they have a program that looks at the member states DG IT is concerned with rolling out software for the workstations and the services in the commission itself but the ISA program is more or less the only program that looks at all the member states and tries to get them together to work on solutions to share and reuse and in this sharing and reuse program they figured we need open sources is a very easy way to get that done and that's where OZOR comes in it's a support tool for that goal as I promised I will this is for me it's the main part of the presentation how to fix open source so that how to fix public administration so that they do open source so the first thing we need to do is to make free and open source software a task for the head of IT for the head of the department for the head of the IT department or the CIO at the ministry level or the municipality level or for the decision-maker at the national level I've listed three of the main advantages that if a CEO these days does not have an open source strategy you would be you should be able to tell him that he has a sort of he doesn't know what he's doing because you really need to have an answer to open source as a decision-maker in IT these days the license costs I will maybe touch on this later I just that's just the tip of the iceberg you're looking at scalability you're looking at flexibility you're looking at the philosophy of innovation in your organization that's what open source is doing that's what public administration across the EU are discovering there's like tons of examples of this and so it's good for a CEO for decision-maker to have a policy in place to say we're currently not using it a lot we're using it in the servers we're using it in our data warehouses but we should be using it across the stack so this is where we are and this is where we need to go like the EC they have a policy like that they say at the at say the back office a lot of open source at the workstations some open source the target is we should move to more open source across the stack that's the policy and then they can start disrupting parts of the infrastructure say that's too much proprietary we need to you know roll out a switch program one of the main strategic goals for a CEO the last one is a is basically a quote from Leah Maxwell a few years ago the CEO for the UK government it's taking control and get rid of lock-in it's a main thing well as I said there are tons of examples I've arranged them here at the levels of government so you have the national government the United Kingdom's the digital services they have an open source lead she is looking at currently she announced recently she's looking at all the big applications out there which are already developed under an open source license which is not the same as saying you do them as open source because that would require support and a roadmap and a community and engagement with this community so she's trying to fix that part of the strategy in France you have a CEO who heads a big government modernization unit Dan seek they have a very good very solid very well thought through policy on openness which includes a lot of open source of course at the multi municipality there's a lot of municipalities across Europe that realize that they're doing the same as their neighbor and they could be using the same tools as the neighbor and they're starting to work together I've listed a few examples in Denmark you have always to I think that has now 60 percent of all municipalities that and they are pooling their budgets and it's making it a lot cheaper and they're using a lot of Drupal based web based solutions and they're rolling out fast and they will pretty soon have maybe all of the municipalities and their model is challenging the traditional model of the proprietary vendors and the proprietary central proprietary the centralized government department because here all of a sudden you see municipalities working together solving it issues which actually solve public administration issues and it goes much faster than the central government department that tries to bring this top down can do Norway we have the Kongsburg region near Oslo where they are doing a lot of web based services that increasingly other municipalities can use so it's help desk it's training it's calendaring and other solutions that they host in their cloud and other municipalities can say oh we have that as well we need that as well here's a bit of RIT budget because we would like that feature to be implemented and the group as a whole starts fixing that Belgium great example EMEO it has about 200 municipalities in the French speaking part of Belgium they're all working together on Python and Zopie based based solutions that's like really great it's huge to quote somebody at the municipality itself of course Munich I will not have to talk long about Munich here it's what world famous a region there's loads of regions in France with several regions that do a lot on open source I just pointed out here the Basque region by the way the slides are already online and all these blue words are links to directly to the ozor that will show you the article where this is based on the Basque region has a free software policy they want to do free software everywhere in the whole stack for everything a bunch of years ago the country the autonomous region realized it was going to run out of money and it gave sir it gave their staff the choice either we do something about our IT because it's really expensive or we start firing a bunch of people watch which would you prefer so they chose for the software but that maybe makes sense and at an organizational level the Ministry of Finland I don't think it's it's a very interesting for me very important case but I think they've rolled back they actually came back on their decision but the bunch of years ago ten years ago five years ago they did a comparative study between open office Microsoft office and IBM notes office or IBM office they ran the cost comparison they concluded that IBM would be the cheapest they chose for open office rolled it out and why why did they do that why is this an interesting case because they realize the free software license gives you scalability and and it gives you freedom to experiment that they already were able to implement it in a pilot program and it ran so well and it implemented so easily it was maintainable so easily that before they kind of made the decision process run through the process they had already installed it in the whole Ministry and that was something that they had never experienced before and they liked it so much that that's why they even though it was maybe a bit more expensive than IBM they they went for it the CIO of the Ministry did its PhD thesis on this and they will come back on that because he made a few recommendations that are in here the second big thing that we need to do is this is strange because you know that I go from CIO all of a sudden to a tool but there is no real order in the sequence we have to make Mozilla Firefox the default browser it's a complete open source browser it you a lot of governments are locked in or maybe I should say we're locked in in internet Explorer they might be moving away a lot of them are actually using both Firefox and Internet Explorer Internet Explorer is maybe on its way out but it's still very dominant in public administrations and it's not only a way for a proprietary browser vendor and operating system vendor and office solution vendor to lock in the public administration but you have a lot of service providers that say our solution requires IE and it therefore they piggyback on the lock-in and they can keep milking the public administration if they if they believe that they they need to require IE so we need to force public administrations to say Firefox is the browser everything that has to work through the web has to work through Firefox Mozilla is also very active on the open standards front and this will be a way to reward that as I mentioned it breaks the lock into IE it breaks the lock into a lot of proprietary technology an anecdote would be a small Dutch town that decided that this is what they would do and they started negotiating with all of their vendors saying okay we have this web based tool we have that web based tool if you do not support Firefox we will move to a different vendor and all of the vendors started tooling around their software so they would speak the same things in Firefox it's available in all operating systems so then you have the freedom to say you want to use a Mac go ahead use a Mac you want to use Linux workstation go ahead use a Linux host and that's what we need to do there's tons of examples I'm sorry my notes are not here so I'm going to miss a few things so I remember them for quite well the Supreme Court of Slovenia it's a very interesting example if this is the main court of a country they have people in place that understand very well how this thing works how lock-in works how competition works and how the legal system works and so they rolled out they have complete open-source workstations a lot of them the country however that this project is in trouble because the minister that is doing public administration is in the US every like month every other other week and he speaks to all the big vendors and then they give him a reward and they give him a you know a medal and then they and he comes back and he says oh Cisco this or HP that and it makes problems for public administrations that that try to do the right thing the ministry also realizes that he is a small country and like one of these big American firms makes more money than the entire country they can buy Slovenia main the biggest European one of the biggest European examples is the French and Armory I will not talk about it long because I'll come back on it later interesting is let's see which one here interesting Arhus in Denmark Arhus is the second largest town of Denmark and they are one of the main drivers behind the OS 2 where they mentioned a few slides ago and so their policy for Firefox is interesting Arnhem is interesting because it had a huge fine they had a pilot project that was going to to figure out an open source switch Microsoft heard about this install the network sniffer a licensed network sniffer in the network and the fine was in the millions and it it robbed the city of its of its financial power to do the pilot so that died the what is interesting in Arnhem is that the counselor has a PhD in computer science and his whole house runs on Debian so I hope that he will continue to try this the bus country already mentioned Munich is really famous and so in line with making Mozilla the default browser this is why open standards have to become mandatory and this is very tricky because you know now we have a debate about what is open what is an open standard and what's the definition so I don't think I will do that here but we need to be mindful of that definition what can I say what what I would find practical is that we should say that a standard that is open it needs to be it needs to be implementable in open source so far that would make it open we could require that an open standard can only be put on an open standards list by any government by saying it needs to be implemented actively implemented in an open source tool that would that would bring threshold that some of the full open standards are currently out there wouldn't be able to jump oh XML is the best example I think it's a standard that we should not have allowed in ISO it should be taken out of ISO that's my personal opinion but it's public administrations that use fake open standards are making it really difficult for those that try to use open standards that's what we see in those are time and time again European Commission is one of its it's here is a problem by itself because it publishes a lot of documents and they don't really understand at the right level the importance of this document format we keep telling them and eventually we'll get through to the right persons but they keep publishing it in this non open standard that is called an open standard which is not an open standard and it's making it really painful for all those that are trying to use ODF so you need to take care of the selection process if you want to know all the details please look at Sweden they have figured this out they have first they took the Dutch list and the Dutch already made a nice selection then the suite says okay so we have the Dutch list we need to make sure that these are really open and so they had two scientists Björn Lundell and his colleague think about so how what what does that mean that means you need a community and it needs to be an open process it needs to be low threshold and everybody should be able to pitch in and now let's look at this Dutch list and see which of those actually have a community which are actually made without financial thresholds and then they weeded down the little list so it became a little bit smaller that is a good list to start with anyway and you need to walk you talk I already mentioned the Commission it says it wants to do open standards it believes strongly that open standards will fix the look-in and now we need to get the Commission to commit to its own statements and actually walk in stock examples I great example is the UK they have a fantastically well thought through open standards policy which is really driving change in Great Britain we it's hard to say that the effects are already visible but they will become very visible very soon you I keep asking the GDS to send me concrete examples and and that's slow but it will come France already mentioned a few slides ago also have a very well thought through openness policy open source sorry open standards is a big part of that they have recently published the RGI which is their list of open standards which in in the first version their first draft version had only ODF and not OXML there was a bit of pressure not from the proprietary vendor itself but from the public administration that are using this fake open standard and so they put it back on in the published version but they said warning this standard has a lot of proprietary links it's very unclear it's very difficult we should you can only use it for Excel and you can only use it if there is no way you can you can escape in your in whatever you did in your Excel sheet that you cannot use ODF otherwise you should use ODF the Netherlands I already touched on it to have a good list to have a standardization forum the standardization board that is also trying to drive change the Dutch IT policy when you talk about this topic free and open source they say look open standards are the thing that is what we're going to implement all over our public administration and then the change should come by itself to open source because it's just the best way to implement open source open standards Sweden I mentioned the list and the European Commission if you want to study this more in detail they have the sharing a reuse framework which is where OZR fits in and where open standards are defined or we're trying to define open standards we have the EIF where there is an interesting debate about how to define this thing that's where it takes place and we have the CEMS which is a monitoring process that will show you which countries have which standards and so there you can just pick out for example you will see the ODF is basically in almost all member states and dog X or XML is in a few like five or six that's interesting the fourth main thing we need to do we as groups that are interested in this process or they as public administrations is help the organization change yeah it's it's like this you have a proprietary work station income the open source people they take away a proprietary work station put in place in Ubuntu workstation with LibreOffice and there you go for a public administrator they don't understand what we're doing because they say you replace the stack with something that does exactly the same why did you do that and and then you have all the other problems of the button isn't there and I the printer won't work and the telephone is not connected and my calendar doesn't sync at you have all the little technical things but they don't get why we're replacing one stack for another we need to communicate the best way to drive this change is to do really small scale pilots and convince the key people in those organizations why this change is important so that they can talk to their colleagues when the colleagues are like it's not working they can say look it is working you just have to you know click the other icon or fix it for them and communication is the key aspect you need to talk and talk and talk and talk and talk the Norwegian PhD thesis on the Ministry of Justice that was his main conclusion you need in every organization what he called a innovation champion somebody who can talk and convince and fix and do and he will go to your desktop and he will fix it on the spot that he will go to the other desktop and explain it to you ten times if necessary and he will convince everybody in the organization why this is a good thing communication is key tons of examples both on the good side and the bad side good I for me update at this moment the greatest example is not Eric Fischer is the IT manager that has set up the change in Nantes he is the change manager and he has been publishing a lot and he's been talking on conferences such as this one about how to do this change Justice Ministry I just ran ahead of myself clearly what is an interesting example it's a good thing here that my notes aren't clear at them notes are invisible and I have to do it from memory the city of Munich they also understood the importance of change and they did the entire desktop as we all know they had a whole bunch of things they did newsletters leaflets brochures workshops conferences for their staff to convince them explain them they did awards for you know make the best picture of Munich and the best three pictures will be the desktop death the default desktop images that you can choose from when you start your Linux workstation and it was this sounds cool to get people involved in making pictures of Munich but it was also a way for the IT department to control the desktop pictures and there are plenty of reasons that you want to control your desktop pictures to make sure it's professional because not all the staff will choose a professional picture the defense ministry in in Italy it's currently the largest European maybe globally the largest rollout of Libre office on the desktop they use the document foundation change management manual and that's a pretty it's at the bottom it's a pretty good document people should you organization should use it as a template to consider okay this might not entirely fit my organization but these are the things I need to do on the bad side the city of Ada they had it's a Dutch town they had it rolled out they were going to do the whole stack they had everything on open standards they had somebody convert all their proprietary document formats to ODF and now they're rolling it all back what's the reason the IT the IT manager changed in came a new IT manager who had a whole bunch of things that he needed to do and then he had all these resistance in the desktops because people were angry because I just explained you have the desktop you change everything nothing works people are frustrated he blames of course the open source tools he doesn't blame the change process and the easiest way to get around this is but which is roll of everything back and he calls his friends and that's just the usual way to do these things I try to get in touch with these people to figure out what is wrong and then you you just call somebody in the in the city hall and before you even start talking they become frustrated yeah and they these IT people they just change your software and they don't realize that things don't work we have to do real work here it's that kind of emotion that the CIO is not going to deal with if the easiest thing to do is oh you want the other tool fine you get the other tool five work famous example because they tried Libre office and then eventually rolled back to Microsoft office but there's one thing in Friday book that's interesting is that they all used Munich's template and document and procurement process manager called Walmux this is a tool that helps you generate your forms it has the stamps it has the seals signature the whole thing and if you do a procurement proposal it fills in all the details that you need to normally taking to account and it did it so well that it saved you a whole bunch of time so when they went back to Microsoft they said but can we please keep Walmux that unfortunately only works on Libre office so okay pain point maybe they'll go back eventually well the other ones Italian towns there's a whole bunch of them Pedro there's the first one Emilia Romana region and South Tyrol province they all stopped their open office pilots I think it's key that it's open office not Libre office there's a lot of rumors you want to talk to the Italian people to hear the details but you can say it's corruption you can say it was false information you can say it's a bunch of IT people that thought of their career long term because having Libre office on your resume might not get you in a job in the next career path that you're choosing it there's all kinds of things to go on there the one thing that happens with all these towns is that they will start to break procurement law again because soon they will have to buy licenses and they'll ask remarks of licenses the European procurement laws do not allow you to procure brands or products that said you can procure Linux because it's a brand but there are tons of people that can send it to you and therefore that doesn't inhibit competition it's a major thing to note and you need to engage the communities that's the fifth point I think it's also the last point now how do you do that this is a headache for all the public administrations here are a few ways to fix it you make sure you require open source skills the European Commission like one or two months ago did a call for IT staff and they really asked through OJOR and through whatever they required that people have experienced an open source the change will come from it in if there's more people that understand open source that work for the Commission it'll become easier to install open source tools because these guys will say oh yeah that we use this in Debian or we use that in Fedora or Red Hat does it like this and before you know it it will be all over so when you do your procurement you can also optimize it for small and medium-sized companies and do not require that the company has 50 million turnover the past five years because that's maybe only two companies that do this you can look at Sweden again a good example for the way to learning how to organize this they do frameworks that so they negotiate with everybody and then negotiate on behalf of all the public administrations and the free dish Swedish framework for open source has basically all the main big not big a small and medium-sized companies that do open source services are in there they're like tested and they were approved and so a municipality doesn't have to go through this whole selection process itself it can just use a framework and say I want this Drupal or I want this Red Hat or I want this Fedora or whatever brand of open source product and they will get the server they can just say give me the the five service suppliers can send an offer but they even have the independent entrepreneurs in there so single-person companies can in that way get jobs at public administrations helping them roll out open source and you need to promote and facilitate open source development and there are a whole bunch of ways to do that it shall go to next I think give you a few examples the city of Nantes I already introduced them at one of the bigger cities in France I think it's the 8th or the 6th they first they realized by moving to liberal office we're saving an X amount I think it was a million for 10,000 desktops or something like that doesn't really matter that's money that disappears from the IT budget but that's like not a good thing for the IT department so they said let's give them 30% and they can keep that for the next year the next year so they can do other things with the savings otherwise it's like thank you for the savings and that's not an incentive for the IT department and so that's one thing they can do other interesting project but they also said now we have a liberal office and there's a few things that don't work the right way in liberal office I'll give you a famous example an important example suppose you have a legal document that does your that fixes the houses and the land around your house that you want to buy or sell or if you're a farmer and you have there's a whole bunch of requirements and it's a bullet list and then you send it to the next level the province and for them all of us on this change into a numbered list it will lose the legitimacy it will lose the value this is a problem in document interoperability problem that really makes it difficult for public administrations to use the mix of OXML and ODT this is like but the big headache and now on set okay so let's do a procurement proposal where we fix this and a few other problems that we have and we will return the fixed product to the upstream of the office so they're working I think the procurement is was launched last year it's it went to a consortium two companies including Colabora one of the liberal office developers and so they are fixing this upstream and this is a fantastic example of how public administrations realize that their use of our tax money actually benefits not only then but it benefits every other public administration and every other citizen across the world if we want to go further in the European Union and that fixes that day that Nantes fix are now fixed for people in Denmark too. Munich is I think in Europe the biggest public administration that contributes to main open source projects if you look at all the code then the commission will win but that's maybe a different battle but at the city level Munich is by far the biggest they contribute well sorry the notes are not there I have to do my memory you have to forgive me if I have it wrong but there's they have 500 patches or 400 patches into liberal office they use I think liberal office 4 and their patches are in upstream in 5 but they have a few issues why they can't upgrade itself so they have fixed liberal office 4 those code improvements are available to all of us in 5 they have Walmax the template manager that I mentioned they have an implementation manager they have tools to manage the rollout upgrade and implementation of workstations there's there's a whole bunch. Dinsig the French government modernization unit one of the ways in which they organize this is in hackathons I can say a few nice things about those things it France has they open source the tax code they also open source the code that selects which student goes to which universities and in both cases it was a sort of a same drive let's do the student example first so this year or last year the the student allotment system had a few glitches and there were student unions that were trying to figure out why this didn't work the way it should have worked and they started asking the members in parliament and they started asking the minister and the minister gave answers and then they they looked at and it doesn't make sense because that's he really says but that's not what happened can you send us how this is done send us the source code and then the minister printed the source code and gave them the source code this is ridiculous so it's no way we can check this so then eventually the whole government realized okay so we need to check we need to you we need to start considering source code the way we consider data we need to publish it you need to make it machine readable and available because we this is how we do openness this is how we are being checked by the citizens these days and it changed the law so now in France if you want to know an algorithm that is used in your process you can go to a court and say can I have that code please doesn't really make it available as open source but it's a start and the other example is the text code where one of the guys that worked at dinsig on a Friday afternoon had you know his task ran out he was an intern and he said you know what I'll just see if I can maybe improve the the income tax application and so he started digging and it's a long story and he had to go to court like two or three times and the minister said no it is like way too complex because we are it runs on foxes and it runs on PDPs and it runs doesn't you know we can't give it to your floppy and and then the minister the the guys that overruled that decision say yeah technically difficult that's not a good answer so you know make it so eventually the tax source code also became available as open source and so they organized hackathons where they they ask these people the use and the means to come to the ministry and then look at the code and see if we can do something more interesting with it and it's a great example Francis leading here they will be nice if others do the same main implementations I will speed up because I think most of these are known for you and I'm also running out of time and maybe there should be some time for questions I've arranged it in three big parts because this is the desktop room so you have the main complete desktop operating system implementations then you'll have the ones that basically do LibreOffice and then I have an annex which are all the others which I will do if you want to sit here for another hour or something so operating systems and office productivity the first one 72,000 work stations across all the gendarmerie in France they everywhere here everybody always says price it's the first thing they say but the French also make it very clear that price yeah it's nice instinct it lowers the total cost of ownership by 40% but man does it make it much easier for us to do IT on workstations this open source so we should have done this years ago they had a guy he would fly to Australia and then fly to an island in the Pacific and then had to go to an island by canoe and then by ferry and then he had to visit all these islands to update the police post antivirus definitions and then he would come back he would make it to Paris and they would give him a new desk set of CD rooms and he could go back again he would be gone all the time fantastic job I would love to have it but with Ubuntu which is what they use they don't need that because it rolls out automatically and besides this whole virus thing is much less overheadic they also so they this they say our e-tail stack is much easier because we can control everything and it is we know we program it here and it rolls out across the whole gendarmory 72,000 desktops yeah well almost I said here I have 41 minutes and so and they say it's priceless to be to get rid of your looking the second one is city of Munich that's 18,000 desktops also Munich's and Libre office the city of Saragossa which is 1200 it's a fragile process these are a few like a handful of people that are doing this and they're under an enormous amount of time pressure using all their free time to do this a quick list of the ones that are doing Libre office or open office but it's mostly Libre office so first the ministries in France has 500,000 of that's half a million and they really use it I've checked there's a few times over the past few weeks they read it's their first it's the only operating system only of his suite on those desktops it's 17 of the 33 ministries and in the Dutch central government that's all about a hundred thousand that number is not entirely they couldn't really know they couldn't really tell me how much they have but this is the total number of central government civil servants and they all have access to it ministry of defense Italy that's going to be a hundred thousand workstations with Libre office it will make it the biggest one extremedura this project I put it here because it's famous but it's broken these numbers are no longer valid and they're rolling it all back to Libre to Microsoft I'm trying to figure out what's going on but that's basically a debt project to lose 10,000 workstations bus country 8,000 workstations the police in Lithuania 8,000 workstations 5,000 so this is the I'll skip the annex the key policies that you need to look at if you're interested already introduced France so that's the one the other one is you're at King United Kingdoms their open source sorry open standards policy and Bulgaria also famous because they managed to get into law that all code developed for and by public administration from day one must be done on a repository which will be mirrored to GitHub this is the way to do it for a for a public administration you hosted on your own repository and you link it to get to keep it under control you expected benefits how much time do I still have that's 40 minutes I'm sorry I'll just this is one more slide the expected benefits it's clear for all of us here autonomy sovereignty and control efficiency and the growth that's an important one the growth of local enterprises it really happens in France and in the bus country you can see this so what's missing this is the last slide we need more politicians that know how this works we need more politicians that realize these are the the benefits and these are the disadvantages of proprietary and we need well organized the focusing so this is slowly happening but it's not there yet and we need patches for procurement because procurement in Europe is really broken and it's in favor of proprietary and that needs to be fixed ASAP and that's it thank you very much