 It's just, you make a comfortable atmosphere and basically I was like the overseer. So in terms of making sure the light bill got paid, that whatever needs taxes, whatever needs to get done. We don't produce anything though, so we're not about productivity. We're not trying to sell books and tapes and DVDs. A lot of spiritual communities, they turn into publishers clearinghouse. They've got all this stuff that they think is all the truths and words and now they've got to get it out to as many people as can read. And they end up being all this productivity mentality where they're always pressuring, you know, deadlines and things published and finished. We're not into producing anything. We really don't produce anything which gives us the spaciousness to just, ah, phone call comes in, okay, we can talk about it. Or if it's something else going on, I'll give you a call back. You know, it's not like these places where you call and you just get an answering machine and you never get a call back. You know, we value integrity. We value follow through, you know, taking the time. Everyone who comes to you is yourself, is the Christ coming to you. Calling out, you know, for love, wanting to connect. So we take it very much like that. But you can see without this sense of productivity, without this drive to accomplish something, produce something, achieve something, then if you let go of that, then you have the spaciousness to be present. So when somebody visits, somebody calls on the phone, wants to Skype, you know, there's an accessibility there as well. So that's where that works. It's very much on guidance. Like now that I've kind of stepped out of the overseer role, I say that's like, I'm kind of now in orbit. So I'm in orbit. And then Jason's like handling a lot of all these practical things, donations, bank accounts, bills, the plumbing breaks down, the rough needs repairing, you know, all the things that would happen if you had a regular household. You still have to be dealt with. But everyone's there to use it for mind training, you know, not to turn into a plumber or a carpenter or a book writer or an author or some kind of an identity or a concept. That's kind of a glimpse of how it works. It works very well. Jason's loving it too. He's like, wow, this is cool. It's like overseeing, feeling all these prompts coming in and just letting them come in and come through and feeling the joy of that without kind of this, you know, both Jason and I have gone through kind of engineering. You do some formal training, engineering. I was in engineering for a year or so. One of the engineering prototypes is analysis, you know, figure it out, apply what you know and solve it. And in fact, you've had times where you can't, like fixing that house down in Kentucky, those old ways weren't applicable anymore. You think, you know, okay, you find all the water leaks in pipe and you just fix them all when the water works? That sounds reasonable. The old engineering way would have been, how do you fix all the leaks in the pipe when the pipe is sealed and it works? But I was, I fixed, I thought I'd fixed all the leaks and I thought, okay, it's time to test it. Use the water tonight. And he'll repair it. Leave it, stop for a day, relax and watch a movie. But the water's working too. You know, there's a lot more leaks than you think. I'm happy to think you prepared the whole thing. There's a lot more leaks than you think. I don't believe you. So I go under, get that piece of big ordeal, go under the house, get the suit on, go underneath and turn this water valve. And I turn it on, go back upstairs, water, pour it in through all the house, everywhere I went. And then all this dejection comes in and like how much more work I had to do. But I could have just followed the prompt, had a relax evening, watched the movie, start the day fresh with knowing that I'm going to have more leaks to fix. But no. I'd go through the old engineering and tell them, but that's the point, to wash it away. And also, like I just, but like when you notice you have had the prompts, so like I mean, I actually didn't hear that prompt, but I wasn't sure that's what it was. But my tendency might have been to go, well there's a kind of beaning up, you shouldn't have had the prompts. You should have. So that's good to happen. It's like, oh, good, you know, and like we've got to, it's like even, even not following the prompts gets used as a teaching device for the screen. We've got to talk, we've got to join and talk about things and things that are actually outside of time with good colors. Yeah, and you start to realize that you just can't assume anything, like even with the plumbing thing, there came a point where there was a plumber to be contacted who came in and was just glorious and countering. You know, again, you can't even assume that you're to do things yourself. You may do 70% of a project and then the spirit goes, okay, now that's it for you. Call the plumber. You know, it breaks out of this kind of self-responsibility of the small self where you feel like, well I can't rely on anybody else. So I guess I'll have to do it all myself. And there's a lot of heaviness and burdens. I mean, pride with accomplishment. Pride with accomplishment. I did it all myself. And that all has to get washed away. So frequently, I mean, I've had the peace house one time. This is a house that has upstairs a wood shower. It's a wood shower. So it's had many layers of varnish and shellac and paint and everything on it. But anyway, the plumbing, something went wrong with the plumbing in the wood shower, and so I just thought I would get in there and handle it myself and kind of carve away so I could get into the pipes and everything and I had to use a blowtorch. And just about the whole shower smoked myself out of the sink and then the spirit said, call the plumber. I was like, oh, before I burned the house down. But again, it's kind of like when you just try to have willingness, like can I do any plumbing? I don't know. I'm willing. But the same thing happened with websites. I mean, when I first, years ago, when I first started following these prompts and going around, I had no cell phone and no computer, didn't use the internet, didn't use email. I just was following my prompt, being out driving my car and the Holy Spirit would say, pull over to the thumb booth. Yep, the good old fashioned thumb booth. I know, it's hard to remember. But then you actually, you pull over to a thumb booth and then you put whatever was a quarter in, prompt was call so and so. They say, hey, come on over. We did it without cell phones and computers and this and that. But it was good practice of just listening and following. And now even with technology and more convenient systems and that, it still comes back to good old fashioned listen and follow and do it that way. So that's the way to clear your mind. So this Holy Spirit used the prompts. I mean, he's just physically using a small plug. Yeah. It was it all. It's a no on and on. It's nothing mysterious at all. It's a no on and on. It's very practical. Very practical. And you can't know what practical means. Yeah, I was driving in the post office and it takes a post that you think one guy for a car saved time and one of lots of people. Halfway there, he goes home. Oh, come on, I can see the post office. Turn around and go home. So I turn around and I'm like, you better have a purpose for this. He's like, pick up Russell. I don't know if you guys know Russell, Russell. Something starts in the south, starts in Australia. He was there and I'm like, okay, I'll go pick up Russell. So I go back and I'm like, but I don't really want to tell him. He had his shoes on, all this stuff. So I go back, I walk in the door and my cell phone starts ringing and it's Russell on the phone standing at the door calling saying, oh, I was calling you to see if you could pick something up for me. Right as I walk in the door, it's like, oh, I was told to come back and get you and then you would be ready to put the radio to the car. When he got his thing, it was all about communication. So that's practical. Now the world would say, it's almost the post office that's impractical to turn around and go back. You see, practicality then becomes listening, following the prompts and feeling the joy and happiness and peace. That's practical and everything the world judges practical is out the window. You really have to be able to be willing to stop what you're doing at any point, to flow with the guidance that comes in. And why are we telling you these stories about these prompts and these guidance is because basically you're not going to go from to see the state of mind into Nirvana or the Kingdom of Heaven without a transition. In other words, the mind when it's into lies and deception is too afraid of truth. So it's going to have to have a transition point. The guidance, the prompts we're talking about are the transition. Because you have to go from listening to the ego which is all based on past learning, past memories, past associations to this guidance of the Holy Spirit which is using the symbols of the world but in a way that will guide you out of the veteran work and so guidance then becomes very, very essential. You really need it in order to escape from the world. Because without it, you don't know what's best. You can sit there and analyze and hypothesize and theorize all you want. It can almost get you in a state of being immobilized because there's so much information and so many seeming potential ways to go but once you get the guidance then it's like very clear do this, do that, you feel joyful just in follow up. So what would be the difference to listening to the prompts and listening with the utmost honesty is the same? Does that come back to actually your intuition? Yeah. An intuitive guide. An intuitive guide, your heart you're just giving it over to really following your heart. Some people say it's the follow your heart, some people say follow your guts and a gut feeling. You can call it anything you want the same feeling from people like I don't want to follow my gut but it's like of all my gut, I'll just end up at the bakery. And then I'll be following a big gut. And then I'll be the Buddha Buddha all over again. So the words don't matter we're talking about a presence here it goes beyond the semantics the words that you call it. I have almost this classic question Can you recall an instance when you guys in your family had an impulse to say something to the other by being right there? Oh yeah. Really? That happens. Actually that happens all the time. In fact a lot of people would come like our friend Charles I mentioned he seemed to be beat as a child when he would try to speak when he was a little boy they would whip him and then he went into an institution and another institution he spent most of his life he went from a family where he was beaten or another where he would scream that yell that if he would say anything that wasn't in line with the rules so yeah when he came there for example to answer your question he was very much into holding on to a lot of emotions a lot of thoughts and the way that he seemed to hold on to it too was he was beating he was beating a lot he was over 300 pounds problem with going to the restroom and passing foods and lots of things when he first came he had lots of pills he was on lots of different medications but a lot he has changed he's only been here only a little bit over a year and already all the pills and the medications most of them have all fallen away he's very aware that eating is like a major defense against a fear like he's covering and protecting that that's been a major thing and he's much more willing now to talk about his emotions and that's just an example about how when you feel the allowance it's allowed even though you're allowed to still inhibit from people really talking about it so it takes trust and I think over the last year and a half his trust has grown and grown and grown so he's much more willing to pour it out including me he was very much afraid to pour it out to me so he would say it here or there and then he got to the point where he would say well he did this or this and this and this much more freely realizing that there was no he wouldn't be he was raised Catholic he wouldn't be excommunicated for throwing out a certain idea that seemed to threaten him it would just be used and that works the other way as well so you guys are also able to be completely honest with him yeah he is to that he said that you don't go for the jugular or the ego so for example when you first when Charles first came you had thoughts about obesity about diet drinks and you know there was just these thoughts that were coming up and everything and I basically would say you can't go to the jugular if somebody is just coming in here and just starting to want to develop a little bit of trust just like you know if a toddler was taking their first steps he would cheer them on and they had a couple of successful steps if they fell down you wouldn't give them a whack you should be able to stay on your feet and get the baby a whack and similarly when you're working with people you have to understand how frightened that they are that they're coming to gently start to work through these ego things and you don't understand the person is like no we're not going to approach the food issue with Charles and actually that went on for sometimes where lots of other things were worked with before he came out one day and he said I got a big issue with food he was probably almost a year yeah almost a year so during that year you had to curtail how you communicate everything is that what you said to the inner problem the heart is so gentle it's not like you're holding back it's just that the spirit knows what's best and it's a kind of good thing so it was like I saw no problem with it I mean in fact we have some friends in California one time that we stopped to stay with them and they were just stuffing their face with diet drinks and potato chips and this this this and then I mean I had a wonderful time with them the whole time no problem for me I mean besides the body it doesn't mean anything to me I'm not into pointing out errors I'm into joining and seeing the Christ but when we left their house we came back, Kirsten was like it was like a major few things about it I was so unhelpful I was grinding I always helped the shoes I could hardly get up and have chills or in an avatar it was like why are you doing this to yourself and I just you know drinking all this and I was seeing diet written on everything that they were very eating and dreaming I'm like why don't you see the word diet is associated with obesity and all these just judgments and thoughts and it just came it was coming up for me to see that it was just my judgments and it got really intense we needed a supermarket one day and I had really an incidence the first woman I saw trying to get out of the car she was so huge she literally could not get out of the car like she was stuck around the steering wheel couldn't get out and I'm looking at this woman and okay this is all for my mind for me to see these thoughts and then I went and sat down I felt quite faint and I sat in front of the supermarket and then there's a man came in and he's got his oxygen he's like what a bleep he's looking at the oxygen egg and he's like hey it was just all for me to have all of this flushed up into a liner so then yeah I did bring it up with David because I had to express it it was all for me and it wasn't helpful to say it for anyone else and yeah and it was all about just leaving that stuff come up and all the discomfort that I felt and seeing it and the feelings of how I wanted to be helpful and I wanted to explain all and it was like of course I can't say any of these things there isn't an invitation and yeah it's just about leaving and go and when we left I think our server was staying with what they shared with us a week later was that they felt so loved and not judged and it was the greatest gift and then they were able to talk about the difficulty that they were having with their words and drinks and these things but it has to come up in a different way I just thought it can't be addressed unless it's fear and there's already that was the same with Charles I had the judgments and I knew that I couldn't speak or say anything about them because I had a charge so it was not for me to say anything or it would come as a tap it just has to be exposed for myself because it's all I own and there are variations in your kind and be loved and be supportive until it comes up in a way that is safe to drink and so that means that you were able to express all these very intense feelings to David so you find that in an appropriate way being honest without being hurtful but you have to be honest to somebody yeah it's all my healing the most free and useful to realise it's not for anyone else I cannot heal someone else I cannot fix anyone else I've got this comfort and judgment it's coming up for me to heal and release so yeah it's just using the serenity to who's the most up to person who can support me as I release this so you've been telling me that you've got to be involved this is horrific this is hell on earth and the lessons are so full every day you went through a thing with our three-legged cat tripod where she tried to put some kind of a gel or something on the back of the cat's neck for what was it? some fleece stuff and the first time it was it got guided and neither of them even noticed but I put it on and then about three or four months later I had the thought I had to repeat the dosage and that's what it says on the thing so Kirsten decided to do it and tripod she knew before I even got it out of the drawer she was all for me like don't even think about it it's a very telepathic one no sharp but angel I put it on here and yeah and she was really upset and she seemed to disappear we went away on a long trip and apparently she walked off from the house and disappeared and we were in bed and I found something to handle and tripod would just run away to another room after that episode it was almost like she felt violated you know like put a gel on the back of my neck without my consent you know this is very much so these are like all these nuances and I mean it's quite dramatically acted out but when you're really flowing with the spirit and following the prompt it's just like this ease everything flows with this beautiful ease and when you get into ego resistances and you try to do it and you go it way then you know it's good that it's brought up to your intention you know it's not seen as a bad thing at all you know it's just all used but listen what single relationship has in my life and I basically just handed all my relationships over to the Holy Spirit and I said okay these were all set up for ego motives I could tell but I had some love in them but there was also some guilt and some fear in all of these relationships so I basically just handed all of my relationships over to the Holy Spirit to let go of all of them like hand them all over and say okay now you bring them back if they're supposed to come back in terms of purpose in terms of serving your purpose and also if you want to bring me any new relationships then of course you know this is what the whole point of it is so a lot of the relationships that I had in my life that were very much based on on the past on genetics you know like when your child some of you in your family life we were always visiting relatives relatives, relatives, relatives genetics, DNA the kin the meeting of the kin always doing it in kind of ritual special days, holidays in the United States we have a holiday called Thanksgiving and so this we would always go to meet with the relatives on Thanksgiving they always have whole afternoon full of football games so the men all sit around and watch football games all afternoon and the women sit and they put the food and they you know have their catch up on the latest gossip and everything it's like year after year after year Thanksgiving for the ritual around Christmas for the presents the same kind of rituals but these are all based on past associations and when you really hand your relationships over to the Holy Spirit things are going to seem to shift even in your perceptual world because you know you're asking more what is it for is this the best use of my time on this one day of the year on Thanksgiving you can sit here for six hours and watch football games and you know it's like no even though when I started to break out of the pattern I would get you know where are you why aren't you coming to fit into these patterns and norms but when you start to follow the spirit it's like no it's what's the most hopefully use of my time and then also your circle of friends can change instead of based on things like reunions or family reunions that are very much like rituals of patterns of behaviors or schoolmates or friends that you knew or met from your business associates or work and so on and so forth you start to realize that those were all based on Ego's belief in getting when you hand all of that over to the Holy Spirit again the relationships that will show up in your life if you're very open and flexible we'll start to reflect your core spiritual values so this is really the essence of how spiritual community in a helpful sense unfolds it's really not organized in the sense that it's not like you have to just go and sign on the dotted line and join in some order or some organization like priests and monks and nuns who try to do this go give yourself over to the convent or the monastery which could still have the same old patterns, Ego patterns acted out in the monastery or in the convent but this is a very spontaneous kind of a vibrational way of looking at relationships for me, I went from being very shy I had a very very small little circle of friends in school in trade school very small junior high very small and high school very small when they had the day when they were going to publish the yearbook and do the senior superlatives most athletic most popular, class clown most likely to succeed and yes we did have most quiet I was voted most quiet in my senior class and I did talk to my close circle of friends they said that we voted for you and I said I talked to you every day at lunch you're famous you're popular now you've been voted something you're most quiet is this supposed to be a good distinction you know I could see the benefits of such an honor getting in the yearbook most quiet but again those are the the past associations that we had to let go of and then and then this year went on and I got into the course and began traveling and sharing and speaking and I developed reflections of friendships all around the world but they were based on this purpose me showing up to just share the joy of God and them showing up in my life just to share the joy of God and didn't so much matter we didn't really have a lot of past commonalities or interests in the past these people were from many countries many cultures they spoke many different languages many more languages than I speak and it all was based on this vibration of of love or this purpose that we're given to forgive the world is really our purpose our perceptions become integrated in whole so we can see the big picture that's the whole purpose of this world is to see a unified perception and then as we get into this purpose more and more we just let the spirit bring into our awareness of people that help us along the way to help us serve this purpose and it's not based on anything in form it's based entirely on an intuitive vibration so that's why I talk a lot about vibrational relationships because those relationships are reflections of your divine purpose that you have in your mind and that's why this is a party it's a celebration there's no guilt there's no shame there's no sense of of like fitting into a role even like my biological father and mother but when I got my mind into this vibration into this purpose they turned around and my biological mother went from seemingly kind of stern and controlling and my father biological father seemed to be very very angry I call them like cupidols they just they were just like hey here's the new Evelyn and Jack I didn't even call them mother and mom and dad from this new perspective because those were just roles from the past and I call everybody by first name so it's like why make exceptions of mom and dad when I first did it my biological sister her head about snapped it was like what did you call them you know Jack and Evelyn you know but then it came out so naturally it just was time and then after that it was always Jack and Evelyn and it was more like we were just meeting in the joy of purpose with no nothing from the past nothing no expectations you know of what could have been better or could have been different like I release you completely from the role and I release myself completely from the role and we meet fresh and clean and in this instance completely born again completely in a brand new birth from this purpose and it's very joyful suddenly they got very happy after years of being miserable and believe it happy parents but they weren't my parents anymore they were just Jack and Evelyn so when you can start to practice that and do that with everyone in your life it seems like these past association that are genetic or that are biological or that are long standing relationships they seem to be a little more difficult but the more you get into the joy of your purpose you see that there's no order of difficulty in miracles then it can't be any more difficult to release parents than anybody else it just takes willingness to do it and then all of a sudden you spring into a new reflection just from the willingness to shift so spiritual community has been an idea that has come up and I coming here to Byron Bay having read emails years ago the academy that they had here and all the things that seem to go on and I know Ted or Hector visited him a number of times and is home and I know I think one time I think the first time first or second time I came to Byron Bay I went on there's a woman here called Lois Hunt who has a show and I went on with her and I was talking about a course of miracles and my life and so on and so forth and then I went over to visit where I was going to be staying with Robert his partner then Jackie had heard me on the radio and we went out to have lunch or something and she just had a sharp reaction she actually came to one of the sessions and she went oh my god here we go again it's Hector all over again another Hector and I of course knew of Hector and knew of Ted but I could see that it was just the past being the past in this body of somebody else because she had associated Hector with being a course of miracles teacher and she had put the David character in the same box and so it was like lesson number two all over again I have given everything I see all the meaning it has for me so even though I was just talking and gathering like this she had all this rage that came up seemingly directed at this body we were able to work through it and work into a release of it because it has nothing to do with anybody in particular it's just this ego rage like the ego is raging at God wanting to have its fantasy land earth and this world made real and God is not going to be God if God grants reality to the fantasy land so the ego rages and thinks that it rages long and long enough that after so many millennium God is finally going to get worn out you know how you do that as a child you throw enough pamphlets because he's throwing them he's throwing them and eventually the parents will just go alright already go ahead have your fantasy land I will grant reality to your dust and you can have go ahead have your illusions I will give them reality but God being God God being reality pure love is not going to grant the ego its wish that illusions become true that ain't gonna happen so then it comes down to us once you start to realize that God is not going to change God's mind and suddenly say okay I've had enough of your tantrums I've had enough of your tantrums and I can't take it anymore and I'm gonna grant reality to fear and guilt just so you know you'll stop but God's not going to do this so then you start to realize whenever you get angry at anything that it's just by clinging to the ego and holding on to its belief system that's generating the anger it never has anything to do with who said what who did what to do and all the typical dramas of this world it's just the ego's rage coming up and the only way to be free of this rage or anger is to dispel or release the ego from your mind you know it makes perfect sense and Jesus here we are on Easter you know Jesus is just an example or a model or a way show of one who said be of good cheer I have overcome the world he said Satan is underfoot still using the snake metaphor like a snake it's God underfoot it's like it's not going to be causing any more trouble it's underfoot I've overcome the world so just to make it a little bit easier for me is God a metaphor in this discussion yeah in fact when I say the word God what I have come to experience is that there really is no definition for God God can't really be described so there are many traditions where we call you know God Yahweh or Jehovah or God or Atma or in the Buddhist tradition there's really no name at all for deity they don't even attempt to name deity we could just say the experience of spirit or infinite eternal everlasting love which there's not really a lot of reference points in this world of everlasting because everything is temporary in this cosmos even the stars the romantic songs as long as the stars shine in the heaven I will be loving you when now we know they're just burning gases and they're going to burn out so if you're sophisticated man and woman is that all you'll just love me as long as the stars so God is when I talk about God it's like I would say the word creator that comes to mind but we're not talking about the creator of the heavens and the earth even so we're not even talking about a God that's described in Genesis because spirit is what creation is spirit is eternal and this cosmos is temporary it's ephemeral, it's perceptual even in quantum physics now they're saying that they've gone down and most when they get into the atomic subatomic level most of it is just space but matter isn't even solid so it's like everything seems to be pointing to something that's beyond definition so when I say the word God I'm not tempting to say a word that has meaning or a definition or the meaning could be successfully described with words but if I have a serious discussion I'm not going to use the word God I actually go to a lot of different places and they say I usually will say to them well is there a word that you're comfortable with and some people will say just love or energy scientists will say how about energy? as long as we're not talking about like finite electricity nuclear energy solar energy all the associations we have in this world for energy don't even come close to it love everybody when they think of love I love my football team or I love my wife or my children I love my country even the word love is so watered down with worldly meanings and it's the same with God there are so many meanings of God our God people get into a war and they say God is with us well the God that I'm talking about doesn't take sides in a war doesn't say this group I'm rooting for this group instead of that group so yeah it's possible to say I've actually been told that I've been invited to Arab Emirates Estates like David you can come over just don't say the word God when you're over here at Arab Emirates Estates or Jesus or whatever it is so what we're doing here is we're going for an exchange of ideas and an experience in which we want to go beyond the words beyond the semantics because everybody has different charges on certain words and semantics so we're going for a heartfelt experience of joining and connection of oneness that we're just going to use the words in the best way that we can and with certain words people will have reactions like I know all my life I've had reactions with certain words as well sorry just to clarify then what motivates you to use the word God in that case because what you just said in the last 5 minutes effectively say that there is no definable entity that can be encompassed by the word God so why use it? I mean you may have a very good reason I'm just curious yeah it's interesting I've been able to 21 countries and depending on where I seem to be and who I seem to be speaking with the words come out in different ways I mean I've had people ask me if I'm a Christian or a Buddhist or a Course in Miracles teacher and there's nothing that comes out in a sense consistently because the words must come and be used in particular settings that just are given I don't select the words nothing in my life is personal in a sense that somebody said do you make notes before you give these talks around the world? No I never have any notes I never have a clue of what will come out it may come out one way or one day or night and come out in a completely different way on another night there is no consistency nor do I teach that consistency can be found in words or in the world but my state of mind is consistently happy and people can feel that I've had people that have come to my gatherings and they will say you don't even want me there I say what do you mean you're invited it doesn't matter whether you're atheist or you believe in pink pyramids or God, Jehovah's or whatever religion or non-religion or scientific I'm really at the stage now where I no longer hold on to any specific beliefs so for me I'm in a state of mind and an experience where nothing is an interruption and nothing is out of bounds in terms of words or discussions it's a state of non-judgment so I include everything and everyone in my state of mind and I recognize that my state of mind includes the entire cosmos so do I have enemies no, do I have anybody, some of them have said one time he said you don't really want me to come to your gatherings this afternoon because I will disrupt your gatherings I said disrupt, how can you possibly disrupt your gatherings he said well believe me with the stuff I'm going to say I will disrupt your gatherings I don't even believe in disruptions nothing whether it's cats racing around here or people standing up and saying praise to Ayatollah or Saddam or whatever I wouldn't consider that a disruption I don't believe in disruptions and interruptions so what that is it's a spirit where I trust that everything that will seem to happen is happening for a reason and for a purpose therefore it's all unified I don't see good elements and bad elements in situations and I just hear the words that are given to me to speak spontaneously at any given moment and even times when I show up and others do the speaking it's perfect too I don't see myself as the speaker or as the one who's leading anything I don't believe in leaders following to the state of the present moment if I may just say I have fascination with some words like God Jesus purpose to me they will indicate an invitation at its best an invitation to hold on to something to cling to something to not let go of it for instance purpose the bottom will open up the floor will disappear where can I let go of purpose it's like letting go of hope so that's why I'm inquiring about this purpose and even my purpose for example I did a talk one time in Florida where actually a little canister like this with a blue bob cap and I spoke you were probably there for that one but for two or two and a half or three hours I spoke about a blue bob cap I said let's undo the entire cosmos with the blue bob cap and I said this is just an image just an image now it's only the ego I would say that pulls it out from the hole out of a tapestry of images almost like a giant quilt pulls it out and a blue bob cap gets into the texture we've got little ridges on the side very smooth on the top a little thing in the middle there and then we can talk about the content, the plastic and the only thing that makes this seem like a blue bob cap is the pets in the present moment there is this state of wonderment where anything that you look upon you look upon it as if you're seeing it for the very very first time there's no past reference point there's no attachment to it you talk about the floor falling out if you removed purpose as you were just saying if I let go of purpose for this as it seems to be in this world the whole universe would open up to the purpose of this one thing what's the purpose of the blue bob cap people would say to keep the water in this thing what's water well you could relate to it and what is it that's holding this plastic thing a body it's a whole bed of lies everything in this cosmos has been learned and if you let go thinking you knew what any one thing was you could spring into what I call joy and happiness and love because you simply would not have any clue of what it is and I've done many teaching sessions in different countries where we will take a chair or a blue bob cap or something and we will together go for that dropping that releasing that letting go of purpose for it and then the other word that I use I use purpose in another context is that very state of mind that doesn't know what a blue bob cap is I would call forgiveness it's still an illusion in reality there's nothing to forgive perfection doesn't need to forgive it's just it still involves images but it's just a state of wow I see the whole thing in its entirety and I don't have any clue about fragmenting it or breaking it up or giving it separate names and separate purposes so yeah it's beautiful I agree if you could drop purpose in relation to anything or everything in this world which is the same everything that is would be opened up or beheld that's my experience I was in university for 10 years I had to unlearn every single scrap everything I learned in university to be happy that's worth a sign I can say the universe in a grander sense it's also why I have no opinions people have been my opinions all the time on politics political leaders, spiritual leaders spiritual books the weather, the ozone layer I have absolutely no opinions about anything is that a detriment no I find that that's essential in happiness to my many opinions I do not get into arguments with people there's nothing for me to argue about I have there's nothing that I'm for or against in this world I was sharing yesterday with the group that I went to Argentina when the first person war so to speak broke out and this young man his mother had given me his room to stay in and he had said he was very angry he said how long will the bush lovers be staying in my room and so I went to bed and next morning I greeted him at breakfast and I said I heard what you said well I'm glad you did and I said that's not entirely true he said I'm a Saddam lover too and now it's just dropped about three inches and oh my god what have I got here at the breakfast table I kind of think he expected that and well we had some wonderful discussions and now every time I go back he's happier and happier and you know we're just kind of in a state of union but it started off that how will the bush lovers be staying in my room and it happens a lot when you really don't hold an opinion then you can be very friendly of course you can be friendly to the animals to the plants to the people to everyone because you certainly have no investment in being right about anything or promoting a point of view or something like that and so with this talk this morning I just thought we would throw it out of spiritual community as a starting point as a topic as I said at the very beginning the goal is to feel that the entire cosmos is your spiritual community and that you are literally in communion with everything and everyone without exception and that's a very high goal but I would say completely attainable I would even use the word inevitable resistance is futile that it's like the inevitable point of experience is connectedness Is that also to be understood for happiness? Happiness is a reality it's not a purpose only in this world does it seem to have an opposite but it does not have an opposite this is a world of opposites and multiplicity happiness and depression and joy and anger and so on and so forth but the happiness of this world as an alternative or an opposite to something else could be seen that way but not the way I'm using the word I'm using in an absolute kind of a that's a good synonym for God happy happy is another word that would be more maybe it's more emotional it doesn't seem to have so many connotations of a man with a long white beard or that's what you inevitably drop into when you let go of the blue bottle cap and so we were talking like first time over the past even past year it's been what seemed to be a surrender of having a life of their own or a life of an individual person to opening to this idea that all that I have all that I give all that I extend is all that I am it's like letting go of the concept of ownership letting go of the concept of private there's a lot of concepts that seem to get in the way of just being who you are and the point is to first just recognize a concept as a concept and then kiss it goodbye it's like I have no need to maintain this concept anymore it takes too much energy to defend this concept to protect this concept it's quite a joyful journey just to start to realize that you are not found and limited by concepts but if you seem to have them you can let them go but you know how they say it with possessions it's like they say do you have the possessions or do the possessions have you we all know what that feels like when you seem to have and a body and a house and a family and so on so forth it can seem to require lots of energy to maintain those identity concepts and what I'm saying is it's possible to just be forget those and recognize that those concepts those possessions are not who you really are that's another thing I don't have I don't have opinions and I don't have any possessions so they take these socks from me do I need some socks it does you don't there's not a house to possess there's not a car to possess there's not a name to possess I mean I go to different countries and people come up with nicknames some of them can seem to be this world positive names and some of them quite contradictory South America sometimes what is it they call me now Maestro Maestro and sometimes Gringo but they're the same to me Maestro and Gringo because they're just concepts so in a state of mind of oneness or connectedness joining then you don't take any of the concepts seriously they just say whatever they want to say it's a really no they so that's like the spring work for our topic today because I think some have expressed that they would like to open to an idea of like spiritual community and can we explore that what does it actually mean how is it valuable my experience with spiritual community was that people use it for one thing as well as the purpose for which it was established and the purpose for which it was established well who decides that unless the Holy Spirit has decided it and it's all happening as part of an orchestrated plan for the Holy Spirit to use as a way of speeding up the process of complete reunion yes I think you could speak directly to that in the sense that I think a word that often gets applied or labeled on to spiritual community in this world is cult and what I've done is I've simply turned the tables on everything and said well let's if we're going to talk about cult and I've had people that have asked me to come on to groups online and message groups and to make a definitive statement because this group of cults they actually years ago said David is this group of cults or not because some of the people said we are not a cult and some of the people said you are a cult and so I said well let's just look at cult thinking cult thinking involves fear cult thinking would involve hierarchies protections it usually involves inferior things and leaders and followers and so forth and I went through all the different aspects of cult thinking and then I said now look could you apply this to the whole world what you see actually and it's like that's kind of a the world's a cult that's exactly it the world through a distorted perception of fragmentation in that definition the world is a cult so how could you have a cult within a cult it's like why would you point a finger at any brother or sister or group and say that they're a cult when the entire world as you know it is a cult now that gives it a much broader context because then it would seem that if you still belong to this world in any way shape or form then you would need deprogramming to use cults or terminology we're going to talk about it that way and then let's be about that let's be about that deprogramming Exit counseling from the world from the world yes Exit counseling talk about external authorities how about the Pope how about the presidents the kings, the queens, the princesses mom and dad police officers Boy Scouts Scouts are a cult anything anything that fits into those parameters that it becomes you need deprogramming from and so that's what I've had so much fun with just because when I'm going around the world and they try to have me point out just like asking Jesus back then you know they caught the woman in the act of adultery the laws of Moses say one of the ten commandments how shall I commit adultery so there's the law supposedly from Moses by a god and here comes Jesus and they get the woman out they caught her in the act the group of men they grab her they drag her before Jesus and they got their stones ready to really apply the punishments for the transgression against God's law and Jesus said the famous let he who is without sin let him cast the first stone ok that really queered the room that dropped all the stones dropped right away they weren't sure but what if this guy really is from God and he's making this statement in front of God in front of everyone all the stones dropped and then some of them brought this and he was writing in the sand while they came up when they saw what he had written in the sand and then they put the stone in and then all the men leave and the woman comes to him and says lord what do you say and he says and I condemn you not overturning everything they've even caught her in the act I condemn you not go your way and sin no more go your way and stay in tune with what is with life with God and that's the same teaching about when you forgive someone you forgive them for what they have not done it's not like they didn't catch her in the act it's not like they didn't have eye witnesses and accounts of what she did and what she did certainly seemed to be a violation of the Ten Commandments and they were certainly looking for punishments and he was saying no because there was a presence there in the whole scene that was without sin and that was the Christ you could call it Christ you could call it universal love whatever you want and the Christ would be casting no stones the Christ would be condemning no one because if everything is truly connected which spondent physics is now showing is called entanglement what the scientists call it if everything is truly kind of a funny word not locality no entanglement and he says I've been living in entanglement my whole life I'm giving him new meaning but if everything is truly one then there's no casting in anything there's nobody casting out there's no condemnation it's like a statement that all is perfect and all forever is perfect and that is really what we're opening up to here if you can leave the connotations away from Jesus and Christ and God and so forth and just really feel the love, the unity the union of that experience then that's what it's all about Jesus was an example of the mystic on the move so that's why there were so many reverberations in the world it was like he wasn't there was no hiding of that light giving sermons, talking having dinners with people he was like seemingly a mystic doing what most mystics don't do is actually moving it about through time and space and he was doing it basically through Galilee I've been doing it through Four Continents more like Christianity but it's the same thing it's not so much in the words that are spoken but it's just in the presence of saying that this state of mind is available and it's very natural and it just requires a lot of willingness to trust and follow the inner guidance and to let go of those ego thoughts that would say you're going too far you're going to be completely his beast out there his beast out there don't leave the safe haven of the familiar and not into the unknown or into the big question mark but I just talk about how the big unknown and that big question mark is not a vicious thing it's love and the world is the belief that there were no rules and regulations in this world that all would be chaos that's why we have prison systems and legal systems and so forth layers of that kind of stratification but what I've found is that all those concepts and legal systems and all that control and order love is all that there is and so I don't I go around thinking I am not of this world and I am under no laws but God's so I don't go around running stop signs and traffic lights actually when I'm in South America they do that anyway but I got picked up in Argentina and the woman who picked me up had a little bit of fear but she ran like 27 red lights in a row and I thought about some of these other civilized countries people feel guilty if they go through a yellow and she's like 27 in a row really no sense of law and order but actually what happens the more you train your mind vibrationally you do transcend the need for these kind of rules and regulations so that you can kind of flow with the spirit so you're not actively going around trying to break rules and laws but you're demonstrating the highest law or you're demonstrating the only law which is the law of love you know giving and receiving are the same as you so social you reap so low you receive that love immediately so that's like a continuous state of flow from the source