 Good morning everyone. Hello Shannon. Hi. How's it going? I'm great It's so nice to have you back in the studio. Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah, so This week is a quiet week. It is it makes me wonder what's going on Maybe there's an event coming up in the very near future. Maybe Yeah, I Really cool stuff might be coming and oh was it two weeks? Yes two weeks. COVID fog is real COVID fog Yeah, I forget what day it is. I keep thinking ignites next week. It's two weeks. It's in two weeks It's in two weeks. Yes, and yeah, cuz normally at this time I'd be starting to pack Yeah, that's true. That's true and and because we always used to get there a few days before the event so we could like set up and Do our thing and do the rehearsals and do everything and now which is the last but three three virtual ones We've had so far. Yeah. Yeah, this is a I mean, I this is what I hope I hope you all get through this With much more appreciation for the things that you know, we've been able to work toward together, right? I'm looking forward to the day where we can see each other face-to-face because I've never met you face-to-face. So hopefully someday, right? Hopefully someday one of the thing is I find is and We went completely virtual now the pendulum will be swinging back at some point when we are all a little safer and vaccinated and everything else But I don't think the virtual part is ever going to go away Yeah, I don't think so either I think if anything we've shown that we can run these events virtually So I wonder if there's always gonna be some sort of element of that each time, right? Yes, and especially For something like ignite to where like okay We get like 30,000 people into Orlando or wherever we decide to fit that many people and we get together That's 30,000 but how many other thousands like what was last year? 270,000 people online right right think about being able to reach that audience to reach that audience But also it's not like every company can afford the I don't know like four or five thousand dollars that it would cost for Putting you on a plane and sending you to Orlando for a week so that you can Hang out at ignite and learn a bunch of things when you can do a lot of its Online so I think it will address and it's it's almost like a It renders it more accessible to a wider range Of people whether or not it's in person or or 100% virtual. Yeah. Yeah It'll be interesting to see how this continues to evolve, right? I'm with you. I feel like there's going to be some sort of element of this in the future How much it plays a part? I guess it yet it remains to be seen But I feel like it's gonna be a big possibility in the future to have it be have some sort of hybrid component Where you've got folks being able to attend different sessions and events virtually. Yeah, and and if we were in person We wouldn't have to say hello to like Andrew McCallum and Jared Shockley and rabid jr. And who else is there? Andrew oh, I said already said Andrew although those are the ones that are actually signed in to our chat room and they've been oh and there's some Facebook users That's the thing with our the platform that we're using right now that when it the the chat comes up It just says Facebook user I saw that I was like that's interesting Are they anonymous? I didn't realize that was a limitation No, it's it's mostly because like in the Facebook they They're tightened they're trying to tighten their privacy So you have to actually physically go in and say I allow stream yard to display my name Okay, but yeah, if we were all in person, we wouldn't have started the az update We wouldn't have this Weekly touch point with our audience and this would be fun. This wouldn't be as fun. I mean, yeah, it's true. It's true. Okay Should we get to the news or yeah, let's do it Let's do the little piece of news that we have because again, it's been a slow week Yeah, I was gonna say I feel like the az update in a couple of weeks is gonna be much bigger and more to cut cover, right? So yes, well, I'm hoping I'm hoping so. All right. So why don't you take it it pick it up? Sure. So this week There's a public preview that wound up getting launched for visual studio code on the web So if you think about this We've offered up a number of different ways to access things quicker faster all of the above, right? I feel like this follows suit so you can access local files You can add certain components to existing files The one thing is you can't troubleshoot debug etc But you can always upgrade to get hub code spaces you get more vs code like Scenarios inside the web, but I just feel like we're trying to find all these different unique ways of giving folks access to their coding Environment and that's not just developers, right? I mean we were just joking about this prior to the show kicking off today I feel like an infrastructure dev some days. I'm like, wow, I've never seen that error message I can't believe I'm coding things. I can't believe I'm not having an anxiety attack So I feel like this is trying to meet meet meet a bunch of different types of folks Where they are and it's just a faster quicker way without having to fire up visual studio code to access Look, let's say you to change one line of code You could probably do that pretty quickly and get something sent over to whomever needed to see it You could probably even Upgrade it and get the get hub code spaces and you get more functionality, right? So it's a really neat feature and I like to see the fact that we're thinking about all these unique ways that folks could access Their coding environment. Yeah, and I love like visual studio code is my go-to editor for everything for my PowerShell scripts for my Bicep files deployment scripts my arm templates, whatever I write When it's code it's always I in visual studio code Yeah, I used to install visual studio but then I Started thinking why am I installing a four terabyte product to and to edit a 17k file Yeah, and it's a lot of overkill for the work that we tend to do. Yeah, did you know there is a PowerShell ISE Like what do they call that now? It's a theme. Yeah, so I added it to mine recently and it feels like the ISE of all I'm like, oh Yeah, the same colors and everything I Got called out with the buddy of mine who told me that I was too much of a nerd and I'm like, you know what? There's something calming about seeing those colors, right? Yeah and I want to take you to task on one thing. Well, not really take you to task You would think about you felt like a like a IT pro dev And I've had that discussion with many people in April and I don't agree on this particular point Or she or mind is that because you're because we write code that we're all developers and I'm like No, so if you tell a developer that's there and operations folks because they make a backup of their database How are they gonna feel? Yeah, right exactly, and I think I think infrastructure dev is pretty appropriate for software to find everything, right? Yeah, but I still think we are Operations and an IT pro. I wouldn't characterize characterize us as as devs Even though we have tools well, right, right, which is why I always preface it with infrastructure dev, right? Okay, you know how to stand up a VM and availability said a load balancer in front of everything You know how to kind of programmatically put that into a template and then boom We didn't have to go in and click through the portal and build it that way, right? So that's why I'd make the joke that I feel like an infrastructure dev, you know, I'm not a true dev I'm not building net apps or Java apps. I have played around with it, but I don't know I've got a lot more appreciation these days for my developer friends. I used to hate them. I don't hate them anymore Got loads of sympathy. I Never hated them So it's a little strong, but I there's a lot of there's a lot of like fighting over the years Yes, it's like siblings. There's that's that rivalry. Yeah, and I like that But I do have to admit that after a while using some of the tools that have been traditionally Built and marketed to developers In an ops environments, especially like visual studio code you mentioned GitHub code space but GitHub itself like some of those those are inherently developer focused tools But man if they ever saved my butt in so many ways in the past that I don't understand why more operations folks are not Leveraging the power that some of those tools can bring them like visual studio code with with the integrated PowerShell and Linux terminals with the the way you can just basically write your code block and like run it Which you can do in the ISC, but the ISC you have to be sitting at a Windows machine. Yes And you can't switch between the ISC you can't like run a bash script. No, you can't you're right No, there's a lot more flexibility in the the detool itself You can run it on a number of different OSes as well, right Linux Mac You could run on a server if you wanted to right there's there's a lot of interesting ways to think about I guess coding your environment and enabling certain levels of Uh, we're to store the code and how to sort of programally put it all together Yeah, there's only a couple things though when I when I read uh, I don't want to Dove when I dove into that subject a bit more Uh, I realized that there's a bit of there's a few drawbacks though to the to the web versus the full uh vs code which full vs code is not very big either but um Extensions are different. So you have web extensions versus the traditional extensions So not all the extensions that you're using let's say for auto-completes and And tally sense and stuff like that for let's say Writing a bicep file when you're trying to add that extension to it so that it would have that information It won't work because it requires that web extension. Yes, right There's no terminal because there's no compute power in a web Sandbox, right, right. Yeah, so I think of it more like this like if you're You're traveling maybe and you get bugged about something you could probably log in there much quicker than you could Firing up a laptop because I think you can get on there via, uh, uh, like a tablet, right? I mean, there's so many ways of thinking about it But if you just needed to make some quick tweaks Maybe you weren't very heavy with it. Uh, you just needed to adjust a couple of files or edit a couple files It's it's a it's a quick win without having to fire up the app not that the app takes a lot of resources It's just one less thing you have to because you're usually in a browser Right. I use of a browser window open It might be a faster way to think about, you know updating certain code files. Yeah, and now that it's that I'm wondering if there's going They're gonna update because there was always there's been for a long time like this Code like experience in the, uh, azure shell Yeah I wonder if that if that's gonna get ported at some time and this is not news Folks out there just us wondering right that would be an it would be an interesting Proposition, so I guess if the pg is listening or are listening there's multiple people, right? Uh, it that would be a really cool feature and I'm sure you'd have a lot of customers who would be excited about that Yeah, and as we were saying earlier like Jared he says I have used the web version on his ipad There you go. See oh I thought you could use it. I have yet to get my my ipad. I've got to figure out It's giving me some error messages. I've got to troubleshoot that this weekend. So I've not yet tried it My ipad I think is I don't even know if he'll turn on because it's been on the corner It's been on the corner of the desk way over there for a long long long time I can't even remember the last time I turned it on It's it's the model from 2013 so it's not that it's old But it's not that old. I know people who still have models from like 2009 2010 era Yeah, which is a Kind of nice. It's almost a paperweight at this point. Yeah Okay, all right. So let's move on to the our next item, which Again, we had to kind of dig in deep dig deep Into the uh into the the the bowels of our news feed To find something relevant for our audience I know it's a it's a light. It was a light week very light week So uh azure hci or azure stack hci The way it's built it's built that it regularly gets a new feature. It's like azure in effect that You deploy it on your on your metal or you buy an oem solution that supports azure stack hci And then more and more capabilities get dropped in on a regular basis Typically it's like there's a monthly release For this month's release. There's been some significant Improvement that I wanted to cover. So the number one is the use of gpus with clustered vm It's it's something that we've we've we started we've done in azure and now it's kind of trickled to to azure stack hci The big one in my opinion is going to be the dynamic cpu compatibility mode. So that's been enabled. That's been lit up And even the last time I was talking with Jeff Woolsey was very excited about this is in the old model. It would take if you had multiple And it's all within family. So it's like all intels or all amd's you can't mix and match architecture, but If let's say you're well, that's for sake of arguments Let's take a stick we're on intel and you have different families of intel cpu is that may have different capabilities and and feature set normally the compatibility mode with basically dumb it down to the absolute lowest common denominator And would run your vm as such so you would if if you had invested in those Nodes in your farm that would have these like really beefy and capable cpus You wouldn't be taken advantage of them because it'd be dumbed down to the lowest common nominator Now, uh, the processor compatibility mode has been updated to take advantage of the those new Capabilities, so it will actually give you a lot more of those capabilities Even across the similar cpu's in your, uh, hci cluster So to me That is going to be really really cool and that's going to bring a lot of benefits to our users, especially When in a world where you can scale Do you start with the two node and then all of a sudden you don't have enough you add a third But in between the second and the third maybe there's a new gen of of intel chips that came out or amd chips that came out So I think just that Especially since like you get that you don't have to reinstall or anything You just run your windows update and all of a sudden your compatibility list your compatibility mode changes. I think it's great Yeah, very cool. Uh, there there's of course, there's others like, uh storage thin provisioning, uh, Adjustable adjustable storage repair speed Uh nested virtualization on amd processor. So we had that, uh In azure now again, it's trickled to uh, hi hci um And another big one is going to be the quick restarts, uh, or what they call the kernel soft reboot Huh So that's now coming down to on prem That's that's very cool, especially when you're you're looking at rebooting a machine Sometimes can take upwards in like four or five minutes. Yeah, and if you've got Huge amounts of memory on on no servers that like the the shutdown where it actually purges and then drains the memory writes everything down And reboots the machine and then reloads everything that could be even more like five ten minutes Now with the the kernel soft reboot, uh, it's This will be in in like sub one minute kind of time frame to reboot your server. So they make things a little bit more Um, feasible in terms of if you have a very short Maintenance windows and you have to upgrade and patch your your your clusters your clustered nodes and you have got I don't know 10 of them You can do it fairly quickly because you deploy but you reboot them in sequence So very cool I'm looking at the the the chat to see if anything can Show Jared says that his team is building out a large azure stack hci clusters and he can't wait to put his hands on them so Actually, maybe we could ask him at the time Whether or not he can come out and tell us about it, but That was it for the news Yeah, it's pretty thin I feel like we're waiting for for ignite. So I think you know, we'll probably have a very light light week next week too Yeah, however the week of ignite will be busy, right? One thing that is ramping up is events Yeah, and you've got a couple to tell us about I do I do So the first one tell us about the first one. So shabazz got a hold of me I want to say it was maybe two or three months ago. She maybe was even longer I think I think it was longer But I was busy and we had to kind of push it down a bit He came up with this whole notion of the azure vmware solution Zero to hero He wanted to build something very similar to what he had done with when it was wvd now It's avd He wanted to do something similar for azure vmware solution And so our first video launched will be launching new videos once a week So we'll have a blog post show up on itops talk It'll tie you to where that video exists And, you know, we'll talk about what is azure vmware solution What you have to think about in terms of planning and pre-rex How you deploy it? There's a video involved with that because the deployment process doesn't it's not a fast process It takes about four ish hours to build the full cluster and that's all of the vSphere components Including vCenter vSan and nsxt and then it kind of walks you through some of the integrations as well Which is really cool. It's still kind of Quicker than I remember doing it in real life though, right? You should take months when you'd have to build out a brand new vSphere environment, right? Plot in a handful of months and needed to change windows galore. So, yeah But yeah, so hopefully folks find this Exciting and you know shabazz would love it if I said, you know Smash the like button because that's the thing everybody's saying now on youtube So smash the like button. Uh, definitely subscribe to his channel because he's doing a lot these days He's a newer mvp as well and he's hopeful that these types of things are are helpful to the broader community So that's kind of the the first Go the first I guess thing we're going to talk about the first thing we're going to talk about. Yeah, uh, the second thing is As your eye has a day which sounds really interesting So yes, I wound up getting put on an email thread And I found out about this and so I've been kind of getting it out to the broader world here But I think because ignite has been so targeted and it's only over like a couple of days versus five days Different product teams and different groups are doing these specific day long events And as your eye has day is no different, right? It'll just talk about all the new enhancements and storage networking and compute Walk through some demos I do believe it's going to be set up in a way where folks could ask questions And there will be moderators in the chat that can answer So it should be really good. You'll be able to get a feel for Some of the new stuff that that's coming and what happens after ignite So in theory you should see all of the new ignite stuff show up there as well But outside of that I don't know too much except for the fact that I have already registered so you should definitely register and You know join us as we I guess go down this path of walking through all the new infrastructure as a service features Yeah, I haven't registered yet Actually to be completely honest I didn't even know about it until you popped it up on on our list of things to talk about this morning And last night I was looking at and go, oh, this is gonna be cool. Oh, oh November 17th and but Luckily because it's a eye as day like a webcast if you register and you can't make that day, which is going to be my case I have a personal Business that day that I cannot miss You'll be able to like get back to the site using the same kind of Address and and registration links that you will get after you register and see it on demand, which is what I'm planning on doing Right, right. I do the same. I did the same with the windows server summit about a month ago Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, God was it a month ago? I think you're right. Yeah, I was about I did the same thing I I didn't catch everything but I caught the stuff I wanted to catch on demand Yeah, and and I find the more we can As a community get together and learn and and share and I like the fact that there's going to be like a Chat and you can ask questions and of course you can always go to our discord server and Continue the discussion or ask the questions there as well if we don't have a community member that is Knowledgeable that will answer your questions because lately this seems to be People answer their own questions So we're just kind of like they're watching it and waving at people as they're And we just kind of you've succeeded right like when when people come to the community They ask questions in another community member answers. That's when you know, you've succeeded at establishing a community, right? Yeah It's I find that when we get to that point that critical mass if you will Uh, I think we've we've done a good job. Um, and but keep in mind We are going to have a a microsoft ignite 2021 or fall 2021. I don't even know what we're calling it this time In the discord we're gonna have a channel so that we could do keynote commenting and and i'm sure jared will Put a few dad jokes in there or memes And uh, we'll have our our our back channel conversations during night is going to happen again on the it upstock discord sweet All right that next one So this one It's it might be interesting to know about I don't know if it's going to be Something that everybody would want to go to but there is a Modernize your apps and data with azure and power apps And so now the citizen developers are becoming more and more prevalent And it's kind of falling into the world of it pros as well It might be interesting to go and sit in on this, right? Um, and again, if you can't go the day it's being Broadcast which if I look at that it's next thursday next thursday doesn't work for you You could always watch it on demand right you could kind of pick and choose what you want to watch And maybe fast forward the parts that don't make a ton of sense because there is going to be some developer components in there There'll be some dot net and java But maybe you're one of those people that sort of evolved your skill set And in this role where you kind of sit in between developer and infrastructure, right? So maybe you're a middleware person and this might be interesting for you to sort of know how to Speed up that digital transformation process for you and your your team So it might be interesting to just register and see what what's out there But it'll be very similar to the is day in the sense that it will be targeted sessions Talking about some of the new enhancements some demos you'll be able to ask questions in the chat There will be folks moderating the chat as well I'm I'm I'm I actually signed up for that one and I'll tell you why Uh, as we were discussed earlier. Uh, I am a ops and it pro Um, but as I mentioned, I've been also using a lot of developer tools Uh and processes to make my ops life better Yes So I I've got a lot of and I've talked about these before like low logic apps and azure functions Uh that are written in a way to Enhance or support the operations of the environments that I that I uh work with Now i'm at the point where i'm trying to think Is there something in power apps that can help? Uh in terms of like power automates or or Even if it's just a form that needs to be written and the information process in the very specific way whenever You do a change to a server or you you You access a certain part like I'm trying to rack my brain to see where Those pieces can fit to help ops and that's why i'm interested. That's why I I signed up because I want to check it out Right. Well, yeah same I I always I'm always open to figuring out how can I make my life better faster more streamlined? And it's usually with code which if you told me this like 10 to 15 years ago I wouldn't have believed you that I would be building things with code, right? Uh and and it's going to be interesting to see what winds up happening to what they showcase Because it might makes might might kind of get you excited about going down a path And maybe building out some future content for folks to absorb Especially because you and I are very similar in the sense that our community base is predominantly it pros So if there's anything we can do to sort of demystify that process You know, we're always excited to go down this rabbit hole and figure out all the where all the dead bodies are I should be nicer about that but you know you gotta kind of figure out all of this stuff, right? And and you kind of document that as well like hey, I ran into this obstacle This is how I got past it. Hey, I talked to a dev friend. I didn't know what the heck this error message meant Now I do this is what it means, you know That's I think everybody's always looking for that that translator And I feel like that's our kind of our role for the community, right? We translate a lot of these harder to understand concepts and make them so that like a six-year-old could understand it, right? Yes, and and i'm looking forward to learning more about stuff like that Yes, okay, so Uh that being said considering that you and I are like on the same page We are uh The next little piece or our learn module of the week is And you need like a sound effect for that. I know I should I should put one on my soundboard, but I didn't uh introduction to get Yeah, so I always think of this as We're sitting in a world that's very software defined now. We're not racking and stacking servers anymore We're not dealing with switches or routers or firewalls or anything like that Awesome, but not all the time. Well, yeah, I guess I guess that is true We're not doing it the way that we were 10 to 15 to 20 years ago, right? And so I think this is an opportunity to take folks that are in the it pro realm and walk them through source control So they understand that there are ways to capture your scripts. It doesn't have to be an arm template It doesn't have to be a bicep template doesn't be a terraform template It could just be a number of maybe bash scripts or power shell scripts you run in your environment You could commit that into source control. So it's not living in a utility server You know, you don't have to go for those of that server It's a way to think about getting code distributed a little bit better than a centralized spot Because it's decentralized, right? And so get get get you comfortable with the commands, right? You can always use the interface the interface. I don't think we'll ever go away the cooling interface I don't think I've ever installed the github desktop. Yeah, so it's not terrible But for me, I always learned the get commands and so it was a little hard. It's weird because I Like it's weird to even say it out loud because normally I'd be like gooey. Yes, let's go down that path But I learned uh get via the command line and this just takes you through, you know What version control is kind of some of the basic commands how to commit things to a local github? environment or not a local it's like a local get environment and then kind of dealing with the version control It's really cool stuff. Anyway, uh, we are out of time. I'm getting the hook from learn tv So, uh, we're gonna have to say goodbye. So for those of you in the chat Thank you very much for spending the the last half hour with us. Shannon. It was wonderful again to have you So much fun. Thanks for having me. All right. See you guys. Bye. Bye