 We're gonna get started everybody get set there's three we're three volunteers for the town we're on the Dyerford Committee and we'll show you what we do and feel free to ask questions at any time we have slides I'm not going to read these slides for you I don't think everybody here can read them but I'll just hit the high points here's our agenda we did receive funds we actually have received the funds already half of them I think it might be all of them now but they they are sitting in a bank they're real it is an opportunity for the town as I break through the town plan and the R3 committee I don't know if anybody was involved with those in the past but we have tons of ideas of projects but it just seems they never really get momentum so now this is the ARPA funds are kind of seed money for these projects and we're looking for input so this meeting basically the agenda is to go through the process of how to apply for funds if you have specific projects you're interested in how to submit that and that's it really it's we don't need to this is big for me we don't need to reinvent the wheel we're not doing anything new we have a process to get the your ideas submitted if they align with the town plan especially or the R3 or projects that have already been thought out or planned that will help you as well as far as getting your your project admitted and I know you probably have a lot of questions from this but I think most of those will get answered as we go through these so I'm not going to read all this this this is the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 there was 350 billion spread out throughout the country throughout the state our funds are not listed here but it's roughly about 1.4 million dollars it works out to about 300 dollars per person so why don't we just give out $300 well because we'd like to have they really well we're trying to you know our ideas that have projects benefited and we have a really creative community with all kinds of projects already ideas and you know we just want to collect those and fund the ones that make the most sense so oh here it is 1.37 million from the federal government I'll go through that these are the folks on the committee the town manager Trevor Lashor is leading it up Perry's on the select board the three of us are here Mary I'm sorry Maria Matt and myself that's very important stuff the scope again I'm not going to read the whole thing but basically this the purpose of this meeting is to let you know what's available in the bottom line is to show you how to apply for that grant and if you have any questions regarding that yes that's what this is for also yep for feedback questions in the process yep and yeah feel free especially after we've talked to give us feedback on what you think we can do one of the things that this reminds me of that but our meetings funds are to be used equitably so we're trying and this is one of the reasons that we had a meeting here Randolph Center and down in the village we want everybody East Randolph Randolph Center to understand that we want are the projects to be developed to be from in from any place in the town you know but it has to but basically the project has to be basically utilized be able to be utilized by the whole town so a project that's very specific might not be the highest priority in us choosing the project however if it's low dollars and it's very focused that might be acceptable too but something that's very focused and takes a lot of the money probably will not be very well received and I want to point out also to this funding 1.37 million is Randolph it's not Raindry they have their own money it's not Brookfield they have their own money so truly is Randolph yeah Randolph Village Randolph Center East Randolph North Randolph and we don't want to leave anybody out so we're West Randolph Randolph Village is West Randolph There's a South Randolph there right? Yes, there's a sign for it. South Randolph, North Randolph? Yeah, could I sign in for yourself? Oh, sorry, thank you. We don't want to leave anybody out, thank you. So there's the organization have to be affiliated with the town of Randolph because I'm a branch of your resident but I'm involved with a lot of things Yeah, if it benefits the town but yeah that's a good point. Yeah, so I'm an individual doing a PEP project but it is something versus like someone on the biped committee for Randolph. No, I think that's fine to submit it and if not I'm sure you're working with other people if it has to be a Randolph resident but it's really if it benefits the town. It's a Randolph project, it's a Randolph downtown so it doesn't work anymore. No, I think it's fine, Miranda. Don't just don't tell anybody. Everyone thinks it's a Randolph anyway, so it's a Randolph. Yeah, a lot of towners need to submit that. But the funds we know are for you. You wouldn't go to construct a project and do something in-branjury. Right, right. It doesn't matter if it's a sponsor or if it is somebody from outside of Randolph, right? It's okay. Right, so they're strategic and focus on making the highest and best use of one-time funds. Question, what do you mean by strategic? Benefit, I would say it's really beneficial for the town and strategic would mean maybe focusing on what's in the town plan already, things that you've looked at maybe focused on I think strategic also means having a strategy to actually look at the idea of the implementation. What I think strategic means in there is that you're looking at a lot of pieces. So if you have a project that can be, you know, that's good for the town, that's focusing on resiliency. Remember, this is all from COVID money and related to the resiliency that we need in a town if we have another pandemic or if we have another Irene, you know, that's what it is. But looking at other sources possible, complete, if you've got resources from other places, so that's kind of, and you need a little bit more, this is strategies that you're using to kind of make things work. That's a good point. These funds originated during COVID. And the original idea was to make up for some, you know, local businesses that may have lost money that weren't able to stay open or road projects, not specifically road projects, but community projects, building projects, educational projects that weren't funded. Because, yeah, exactly. That's big. And yeah, we'll have some slides with some specifics. This is all just the introduction, basically, but this is the process. Stage one is to form the committee, which has been done. We worked on the information, the key information to select. It's a two-process selection process. Basically, the first process this form is really pretty simple. It's just what you want to do approximately how much, the first process that you do put some time into that and figure out how you're going to get your project done, do a good project definition, and try to be as accurate as you can with how much it's going to cost. Because if you put in for a project and you think it might cost $5,000, but it ends up costing $50,000, that's a project that may not go through. And a criteria that none of you have in front of you except for you does have slots. We're getting ahead of the game here by talking about this, but basically it has money slots. How much money do you want? In this category, 10 to something thousand, 50,000, 300,000 over that. It's different categories that you will choose as you make this application. And it's online, too. This is an online form. You just have a paper form so you can look at it, but it's online. And we'll show you the level of how to access it online and fill it out online if you'd like to do it that way as well. So this is called phase one. That's the phase one form. We'll take those and evaluate those. We'll keep track of all projects whether they're accepted or not. And our committee is tasked with picking the projects that have the most benefit for the community. At that point, we'll probably have another meeting where we present that to the community. I don't know for sure. This meeting is actually pretty well attended compared to the first one. But this is roughly the people that have been to our meetings so far. So if you have a specific project, depending on the project, as long as you're not using all the funds, I think you have a pretty good chance of getting your project approved if you do a good job of describing it. Can I answer that? Absolutely. Well, when your committee has had meetings, I'm assuming. We've been meeting since February of March. Yeah. Did you sort of define what you mean by good for the town? Like, are you talking? I mean, there was a lot of talk about children in the beginning and how much difficult it was for them to be home and not being nowhere to congregate safely. There was a lot of talk about we needed more maybe outdoor spaces so that we could have meetings, but they're outdoors. Maybe under some kind of a pavilion. You know, those are the kinds of things that I thought maybe this money was toward making life a little bit easier should this continue to ring the bell. It all depends on who comes forward with what project. That's all now on us to decide together and for this board to manage who comes forward with what idea. The rest of the slides will talk about that. So we're getting there. Yeah, and that's probably what we should do is go through the presentation and have most questions at the end because I think a lot of what you're bringing up is probably here already. And here we're getting, we're zeroing in a little bit more right now, these are the basic principles, good governments, leverage your aid in best and best uses for long term. Again, that's kind of what you're saying. It's a little broad, but I think we can, you know, we'll know those projects. But basically that's what we're looking for. That leverage your aid. What that's referring to is that there's projects that have other funding sources and those funding sources might require matches. This can be used as a match. So those projects will be looked upon pretty highly, I think. And we want to get as many people as we can involved and get the ideas for the different stakeholders. There's actually a lot of, it's pretty broad what can be approved. It's not specifically education. It's not specifically weatherization, community development, parks and recreation. You know, the overall fun is to make your community more resilient and able to, you know, now that we know what a pandemic is, make sure we're best in the best shape and if and when the next one comes through. And that was really, I think COVID now is kind of out of everybody's mind. But when these funds were all released, when this program started, that was very much the focus of the funds is, you know, what do you need? Does your community suffer what you need to make that up? And what can you do to make yourself stronger when and if it happens again? Vermont League of Cities and Towns has this information on it. So if you go to there, you get more information. There's a ton of information on that website. And we actually have a link. If we have time, we can click on that and go around that a little bit. They do focus a lot as, you know, again, this is don't reinvent the wheel again. Focus on tools that we already have. If you haven't seen the town plan, it's, I think the link is right on the front page of the town website to get some ideas of what the select board and leadership of the town and citizens have come up within the past that they'd like to see. And I was surprised how much detail is in there actually, but also surprised by how many great ideas there were that haven't been done yet. Are anyone, is there anyone from those previous organizational groups that would step up and bring the best plans forward and maybe push those through? Because it was a lot of, like you said, those are very intense two rounds of development. And not a lot of that stuff got applied. So they, I mean, I'd say Tony Keller would be one person to speak to. I don't know who headed up the second round as much, but you might get the top, you know, there might be somebody there that would push those and help. Yeah, and that's the part of the intake form is, yeah, now is the time to intake specific projects. So if there's somebody that worked on those committees that really has a project that they want to see done and put it in, that's what we want to see. And that would be the form for that. One of the things that I was reading through that they are three forms this week. And I, one of the things was the kids did a survey that the kids did. And basically they said, we need a bike shop. So I actually went to a couple of those meetings with the kids at the library. And they just had so many suggestions. And then COVID. That's a good point. I would love to see us more involved with the school when it came to that. We did a survey for the town also as far as, you know, infrastructure, how safe do you feel walking to school, riding your bike to school and things. And we didn't get as much from the schools as we had hoped, but that's really great to get more involved. I'd love to see some students in here because you're right. They have some great ideas. And a lot of them were actually almost free. They were, you know, things that just needed to be utilized that we kind of already have. And some way of making a plan and putting it forward. I just wanted to quickly, I've been biting my tongue, but is there anyone under 40 on your committee? I'm the youngest on the committee. That's good. Where are you from? I'm 39. She's 39! Yes, so I'm under 40, yes, alright. It might be, too. Could you do a tailored presentation of this to the 10, 11 and 12th graders because I've always felt that we need to get them more involved and lead a community discussion. In Chandler we had a pair of kids that were a junior and senior that were friends on the gallery committee for a while. And two people make the second person come. When you put one kid on a committee, they don't have confidence and don't keep coming. So if you could, I think, do something with this to that senior high group, you might find some great participation. That's a good idea. I think it would be good for them for, you know, civics. I think let's us get through this and then we'll save our questions. Sorry, I asked a question. I just perpetuated the question asking. Would you go back to the slide just for a second person? There should be a copy of this, too. It has to be posted on the website as well. Do you have any questions specifically? We don't want to create an ongoing unfunded expense. So we don't want to create unfunded liabilities to the town. We don't want to start a program that needs to be funded with other dollars than the teacher. So a project that does that and not be put on. Jeff, we'll get to it, but the electronic version of this and the paper printout of it, once you get to question 9 and the list of criteria by which a project would be evaluated. All right. Another great use for ARPA funds is supplementing other grants. So if you have another grant that you had that partially funds your project, the ARPA funds could be used to supplement that and finish up. And actually, that's a good... If you've got funding already approved, that already proves that, okay, somebody decided this is good use of the funds and that would probably smooth that project as it goes through as well. Just a reminder, the state got a bunch of money, ARPA money. And so they're doing stuff, including infrastructure, things like that. So what we're doing is not that. We're doing other things. Right. And so this basically is saying that there's already funding available for coronavirus relief that helps assistance with renters and utilities, that there's a mortgage fund that help people pay their mortgages. These are basically things that it probably won't be used for. They've already wasted to fund these. However, if you get into housing, which I thought I saw something here for... Housing and resource. Housing and resource, yeah, that it could be used to facilitate or help with some of that as well. And there's all kinds of resources for these housing projects and that is a need in Vermont right now. And if you have a specific project, that's probably good. Now these are where the funds have been used in the past and there's also a list, I think there's a link to it on the VLCT Vermont League of City and Town websites that lists all the different projects that have been approved in Vermont towns to get another idea of ways that these funds could be used. And there's also a national site on an ARPA website that has every single ARPA project that's been submitted so far in the country. And that's categorized so it's not as foreboding as it sounds, but it gives you some good ideas. But these are a few basic ones. They can be used for water and sewer projects. I don't think that's... Even though we have a need in Randolph, there's other funding available for that so I don't think water and sewer is high on the list of where these will be used. Broadband, possibly. Repair, rebuild roads and bridges. Safe streets, I think is a big one. BB charging stations and improvements to municipal buildings are a few uses and I think there's more. Yes. Cyber security, IT upgrades. These are a lot of municipal projects again. Meeting equipment, places for the community to meet and gather during emergencies. For example, digitized land records. That's probably a need for the town. Not a real exciting one, but especially capital improvements to municipal buildings, ventilation energy, a formal capital plan, which is pretty much what the town plan is in the town report. We reinvented the wheel, because we've done this twice and like you said, all these ideas of land sit in archive. To do that again would just be redundant. These are ideas for other people too. It's not just us. In our case, we've got some really good footing to work from those things that were created on paper. Exactly. Take a look at the town plan. If you're on the R3 committee, pull out some of those projects. Recreation is big, weatherization is another big area. It's not specific. Will the town be applying for any of these? No. This is a chance for your group or for you to do the application and the work, and that brings out a good point that I don't know if we address, but as you put a project in, be sure to include funds for managing that project, because that is approved, but that's very important. If you have a project, especially an involved project, the town doesn't have the manpower or the people power to manage that for you. There will be, I'm sure, somebody at the town that would be like a liaison that you report to, but the actual project management in managing the funds is something you should include with your project. Do you need to be a nonprofit or connected to a nonprofit to be receiving funds? How does that work? No, you don't. No. So how do you, in just in terms of logistics, and so forth, are there certain requirements for that? We're working on that. That's what I mean by project management. We'll have to keep track of that and what it's spent on and what you use for it. I mean, probably down to the details of receipts and invoices for where the money actually went, what you spent the money on. Because you need after-taxes to show that it wasn't Incon A and it was, you know, it was an commercial project and you could hire a bookkeeper, you could hire an accountant to do that for you, but yeah, that's what I mean. When we say project management, that's what's included in that is not just spending the money on whatever equipment you're going to buy, but actually managing how those funds are spent. Right. You would ask the question whether the talent was going to apply and two things come to mind. Ultimately, it's a slight port that decides projects. We're going to make some recommendations based on the criteria that we've come up with, but ultimately it's a slight port that decides what projects they want to fund. There's also no reason the slight port couldn't decide to come up with their own project and use some of the funds for that. We haven't heard talk about that. There's no reason they couldn't. Some municipalities have not put it out to the public at all. They've just simply picked some project. They replaced a couple of culverts and moved on. There's no reason the town couldn't do that with the municipality. Yeah, good point. I think that, for example, again, upgrading the IT equipment. The town is in pretty strong need of that. I think if you've looked at the town website, it's been there quite a while. It could definitely be improved. Record keeping, tax keeping, that could all be improved and save money in the long run, I think. You might see, I would expect the town would have some projects like that for, I would think. But like you said, we haven't seen it yet. But we're just starting. No, you're going to tell us the timeline again. Yeah, that's on the select board. So is the library Minnesota will go like that? Yes. Our library? So that would be excluded? No. I thought you said you were avoiding those things. No, I'm sorry. It's like road, I don't think it would be road improvements, water and sewer. I think we actually could use it for that, but I don't think the select board, that's not where they're looking to spend the money because there's other funds available, and grants available for that. Does your committee know, is the ventilation project to make sure the library can keep staying open? Is that already happening? That would be a project that could be developed and presented. But I do think there is some work being done. That's a wonderful thing to know. I keep asking it. Amy's working on that. She did a good person. She did an example or something that they didn't have enough funds, but got some money already. It was a little bit more, and this is an opportunity to do that. Because they're back to opening all the way. And that's a big benefit for the community. Yes. How many more slides are there? 47. Okay. There's about three. You all don't have paper. If anyone has a pen, write your questions now and save them till the end. Here's the big slide right here. Investments that revitalize a community, making it better, safer to live for existing residents and to help attracting new ones. There are great uses for the trails. Can I just throw something out? If you look down in the bottom right hand corner on any of these slides where you see that little, these are all from the VLCT website. A lot of this information came from there. Like Maria said, there's a ton of good information there. Right, outdoor recreation, trails, parks, green spaces, these are some of great uses of the funds. Big benefit for the community is ways to get around possibly without having to drive your car everywhere. Community gathering spaces, support for local nonprofits. We do expect and want to work with nonprofits to help them on some projects that they might not have funding for otherwise. And here is your question. The submission dates are now. It's open now obviously. You can have the paper forms in the website is probably the most convenient way to submit your form because that will be tracked. And so it's now through the end of the year. And these dates are not in stone. I mean, if there's something you have that really goes beyond that, but we expect to have everything in for us to evaluate by the end of the year and then start the evaluation process and probably have something to present sometime in the first quarter of next year. We have until the end of 2024 to decide how to spend the funds. So it's there's no rush at all. And we probably we're not in any rush. But again, it's something we'd like to start working on and basically, you know, get the low hanging fruit especially projects that can be done quickly and that can easily be funded with these funds and you can see results. It'd be good to get that going. It's a two step process. This is step one if your project's approved for the next step. That's when you'll have to get the real detail of who's going to do the work, how much is it going to cost, who's going to manage the project. But we'll cross that when we get there. But do think of that because from what I can see I think any projects that are submitted are going to have a pretty good chance of being accepted especially, you know, if they meet this criteria, which is pretty broad. And it depends on the money. Exactly. So our thinking was we thought we could easily have requests for much more than $1.4 million. So our thinking was rather than have people go through very detailed application process initially we would do you could fill this out in five minutes online pretty quick. Sort of quick and dirty idea as we collect all of the potential projects and rank them. And from there we would make a recommendation that the select board will decide the projects to submit full applications that go into much more detail. So that's with the two step processes. This initial screening and then sort of invitation for a full application. How long is the process from you looking at applications to a project receiving money? It depends on the project. I mean it could be the funds don't need to be even allocated or they have to be used not even decided how to spend. If something was there I mean it could happen pretty quick the money is available now. So if it's a project some of the money is available now. So this initial intake is open until December 31st and at that point we'll start reviewing the initial submittal of projects. Ranking them. And realistically that's not going to happen really quickly. There's going to be a lot of deliberation there. Then we're going to ask for full applications. I think it's a lot of 2023 going through that process and toward the end of 2023 before projects are selected and money is being I think realistically it's 6 to 12 months. No. I think it's 6 to 12 months. It's all be allocated by 2026. That's quite a ways away. But we expect we'll have probably the first quarter maybe into the second quarter to decide the projects that will be moving forward and then they'll have months to get their projects submitted. So there's no rush but it could happen fairly quickly. Again it's a smaller project if it moves through quickly it's possible to get much quicker too. But it doesn't have to be done until December 31st, 2026. Spent. So let me I want to get this straight. You anticipate give or take the first 6 months of 23 to be spent to figuring out of the people who have applied by then which is I mean we've got this deadline at the end of this year. And then you're going to hand over to the select board for their final decisions and so what happens the second you said some of this some things could move forward quite quickly. But if there if you've got a pool of applications you know and you're going to spend 6 months maybe deliberating then that's not that's not quick. I should qualify that. Nothing moves quick with town government. So when I say quick it means it could be well before even you need to decide how you're going to spend the money by the end of 2024 but that doesn't mean we're waiting until 2024 to make that decision we're saying that there might be projects that are approved before then. I don't anticipate a huge amount of projects I really don't for what I've seen. So I think in this deadline of the 31st is not a hard but that's a soft deadline but that's the schedule we've come up with we would like to see that so we can collect those this year use probably the first quarter of next year to make that initial decision then we collect the details we'll probably submit a report to the select board but we may not we may just wait the initial thought we had was we're going to wait until we get the detailed application submitted before we submit to the select board but I'm thinking at some point we may just give them a quick update of where we are and we've collected so many projects here's an idea of what we have here's the ones we think we're going to move forward with but we don't have to do that so you know that process isn't firmly decided yet but the select board has tasked us with getting soliciting a lot of public input so we don't want to rush the selection and we also don't want to do it just behind closed doors and so that takes time to give the public an opportunity to weigh in on the proposals also so I think realistically we're looking at the first quarter of 2023 to review the initial submittals and sort of willow it down the next quarter the second quarter to request and receive applications and probably the third and the fourth quarter is more administrative stuff and select board input and public input and I'd be surprised even for simple projects if money was being handed out before 2024 I think that's realistic and we say public input in that context what are you referring to I mean you've got the applications you'll be substantiating asking for substantiation that's going to do it and so you know the 34th quarter of 2024 there might be public input what are you thinking of there well I think that we might have a public meeting to tell people these are the projects that have been proposed and the select board has expressed support for and give people a chance to say not my backyard okay or say how can I help yes okay get to these slides save your questions 47 more this is it I think I have one more slide this is a big slide ready this is great now we can chat that's what we've all been hoping for so Jeff it would be helpful if you would pull up this online intake form to see it's on the town's website so go to government so I want to show real quick since we have just a few extra minutes we're going to post this and I think there's a link right here what should take us I don't know how fast the internet is here we anticipate that there will be projects that are given to us that will eliminate pretty quickly it's a college because they have to meet the criteria that we're going to develop in this page right here it tells you what the criteria are kind of these slides have been very helpful so do you think you know where it is there's people interesting that didn't come to this presentation but you know where you talked about something send them this presentation and send them this inquiry and then they can figure out is it something that many things are working forward for those little projects and the last five years people have talked about the temperature if it really is a project they're still willing to do or interested in and that's the other piece there may be a bunch of a couple of thousand dollar projects that the committee will say okay we'll set aside a little bit but we know that there's at least one project that somebody's very interested in doing that's several hundred thousand dollars so we're going to have to balance all of that right hopefully this will help I can't make that bigger so I just wanted to show people this is a list of all the projects that have been submitted so far in Vermont it's a town of Bennington and you can't see this but there's projects in here for parks this is on the Vermont I don't want to take any more time tonight but it's right here on the resources and information our fund accounting presentation so it's basically the first on the website look for this we've all seen this tonight and right here Vermont League of Cities and it's this link right here so it's about halfway down this is the main page we're on the home page and there's all kinds of information here but there's a really good resource as far as what the funds if you're really interested in background that's there but the main thing is some good ideas for projects and it's really good that you guys that are here can go out and tell people because we hope that a lot of people come we're not telling anyone no way I'm just kidding that's our idea I'm disappointed you all came these are beautiful websites and right here I just want to show the town plans right here so if you want a quick link to look at the town plan and see what other people what the ideas are for the town what we'd like to fund what category on the website is that that's the main page that's the main page it's randallfermont.org thank you under government under town advisory committees ARPA you know what they are everybody has seen that okay it's government why don't you go back go through again slow motion so from the home page of the town government and then town advisory so government and town advisory committees oh yeah and then ARPA committee and I think it's going to be posted on front porch forum and facebook the link itself and we're trying to get an ARPA link right on the main page right here where you can just scroll down there's links here you can just go right to this front page and click there but we didn't sell so if you have a format that you're putting out to people to get more information could you send it over to us at the chamber so we can put it out to our membership well this is it this is the link to the electronic version of this okay I'm at this step I'm at ARPA committee it brings us here all the information that we talked about tonight and right at the top this P1 means phase 1 intake and evaluation criteria this is where your projects go this is a double length I think we may fix this because it brings you to this page and this tells you the different buckets that are on the forum also so we categorize the projects with the amount that you expect you'll spend and this big purple link takes you to the electronic copy of that paper that you had in front of you there and once this is submitted it is recorded and tracked and all the way to the bottom so they can see there's a submit button so you fill all that information and you click the submit button so here's the estimate of project cost intent to funding community benefit project viability connection to economic development growth and submit so essentially you'll see that there are four main criteria four main criteria four groups one is the connection to the intent to funding so it is a get to community resiliency and things like that the second one is community benefits is it very broad or is it instead very targeted is it covered different demographics the third one is project viability and so that's somebody might have a great idea for a project that maybe they want to put in a wave park you know I don't know so it could have a great idea but really is it viable has it been identified previously has any engineering or planning been done are there already resources available has it been done things like that like how viable is it because people may come up with pie in the sky things so that's what the viability is funding, community benefit project viability and the fourth one is connection to economic growth those are the four main categories so if I understand you right you're not ready to be you'll get everything together by you know December 31st or extend that if you see research you'll extend that deadline a little bit then you'll have everything in one place all the aggregate of what's been applied for and start dividing it up like that rather than say okay well let's set aside $25,000 for all these little projects that's in stone now let's take the remainder and see what we haven't said that but you know we've thought about that because that's one reason it's not one of the four categories we do ask for the estimated project cost because we thought we may want to do just that we may see that there's projects that are under $10,000 maybe we set some of those aside because they're easier to implement so we don't think we want one project to take up the entire $1.37 million so we may well do that and we will start looking at them of all so that we'll just kind of begin to work on them so it's not where we're not but we do have holidays so we won't go as fast as we might want to but that's what we'll start looking at I don't see but I'm asking a question really any advantage to early or later submittal would you comment on that at all at all relevant I don't think at this point in time by the end of the year that's it I don't think so No not really except you know, ultimately the select board is going to decide there's a lot of public interest in a project I think it's more likely to get selected and so starting early and building public support for your projects so people are talking about it the select board is hearing about it before these projects are even reviewed seems to me to be a wise thing to do The funds could run out It sounds like a lot but yeah it's like two miles of paved road I think is what we figured 1.5 million the sidewalk is like 800,000 I mean that's half the budget right there and we've never done this before this is the whole process there's really no no guidebook except some of the stuff that we've been able to look at on this website so it's all really what we hope we can do and if you're curious you can go to a lot of the towns in Vermont and look at their plans and so they've already been on this too some of them are ahead of us, some of them are behind yeah some of you guys had some did it without getting much public input they just decided on some projects things like culverts and some road repairs and moved on to fly here but the committee is really interested in projects that go to the heart of this and that's resiliency and long term how is this going to help in the long term instead of the next couple of years that's why we're not really into culverts and roads that's not where we're going we're looking at long term projects that will help the committee grow economically and get through times that are difficult in the future so you may have noticed child care out there so child care is a big thing as far as I'm concerned but I think child care because people can't work if their children aren't in school those two avenues child care and housing we have other monies that are coming in to the community for already underdeveloped stuff so yes again this is used as kind of a settlement those people we're all very aware and I think maybe you are too that there's a child care project that's being worked on on 66 but they don't have all the levies that they need so they may ask for monies from us so that would be okay that's what we're thinking about in health care we're lucky we have different but what else could we use in this town to make sure that people are getting their medicines if they can if there's road damage and I can't get out stuff like that so think about resiliency that's really the word well I think if there's so many in the community that would be able to put together a package for transportation, tax service or something of that nature because I helped twice this summer folks off the train who didn't know that we had no services and I took one couple to stop Boylton because they didn't realize you can't even get an Uber here no I couldn't get an Uber I couldn't get a room to stay because they weren't vetted through the Airbnb organization so they wouldn't get them around and it got to be really cold that's something I would think would be great to be developed to have infrastructure for the training because you can come right up to Randolph from New York City but then you're kind of stuck they thought they were going to Montpelier to get off and get off here I don't know how the confusion happened and figured out we'll just get a taxi so then the other person that came here was last Halloween night after the day's activities and we cleaned up and I was headed back to my place it was a boy that was waving me down as I went through by Village Pizza and I stopped and I said can I help you with anything and he said I need to get to Middlebury how do I get a taxi and Mark Rosalvo ended up driving him home as I ran into somebody at the pizza shop who was taking pizza up to his party and at 10.30 at night he drove the kid to Middlebury he's a student he was a freshman this was the closest to getting back to Clark I think that would be the director we need some kind of directory we need somebody to drive yeah services like that there's nobody passers so when you get off the train there's no information board at the train that could be a board I like that where do you stay and how do you get a ride I've been running I bet they're going to have some service that's 2 years down the road and not everybody's a hotel client and the hotel is close to where the train is and it's like a corporate hotel it's not a downtown fixture yeah but there is no downtown anything so you can't build off of something that doesn't exist but there's no downtown hotel exactly exactly we've got 6 Airbnb's yeah we have a lot of rooms in downtown it's very hard to figure out the chamber can't sanction a section in our website for Airbnb's because the chamber of commerce on a national level does not support Airbnb's because there's no regulations for them so this vetted thing with Airbnb which is kind of your bonded as a guest that's a step in that direction that is recognized but as far as we can't do that we need to list motels or places that get state inspected and so forth and have a license so that's a problem that I've been fighting I want to have a section where we can share everybody's Airbnb information so yeah a directory resource somehow that we can share this information to people who come here and aren't from here because they get here and they don't know how to find information or they don't have internet service so that's a big need and it serves a broad population and it helps that kind of economic development too that might be something have you talked to Mark for Zoblo about that particular thing I don't know yeah that's I mean that would seem like a good project but I want to show for like the chamber to do as like ask not necessarily when you should ask the cameraman it's not necessarily something that the chamber should have to ask businesses to participate in the funding it should be something that this could be yeah that's a good one so I think if the chamber did that and then the best thing about this with the way it's sort of out of your fund sources we've looked at for projects through Ridgeline or whatever and your restrictions with how you can spend it you can't pay somebody with the money you can't pay some of the salary or stipend but with this like it's encouraged to include in your projects to make sure you have the management sources to manage it because otherwise you have a great project and nobody has the time to volunteer so that's a really huge for this so don't forget that part of the chamber who's going to manage this project backwards and how much does that cost yeah we're just putting out the query of is there interest in an Uber service we're going to have a job board on the website so if you we are on our face page so if you want to put up Uber service is needed in this region or other professions that we should have like with a dentist we could use dentists in this area what else is there for professionals that were they retired not even eye doctors eye doctors so that you know there's some points in our professional services categories that could help benefit a broad population no matter what they care about yeah how much size that is yeah what are the needs right entrepreneurs