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I'm a comedian. You know, I'm a TV host, a writer, a creator. A TV host of what? Yeah. Recently, TMZ hip hop on Fox. Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen that. I didn't want to believe it. I want you to see it. Oh, OK. Yeah. I thought I'm going to find it for many people. Yeah. So how did you get into that? Man, it was so crazy, because one of the co-hosts who was on there, like, he kind of got the position first. And then they were like, oh, like, what women can you see on here? And he recommended me. And they checked out my stuff. And it happened so fast, like, because they were on a tight deadline. So they flew me out there, auditioned. Farah even got back on the plane to come back to Dallas. They was like, yeah, we'd love to have you outside, for sure. And then three weeks later, I was out there for, like, three months filming it. It was fun. You know, that's a new message. How long ago was that? Go ahead. That was April to June. So that is just recently. OK. Yeah. Let's go back. So I'd like to know, where you from? How you were raised, all of that good juice. OK. So I'm from Rochester, New York. It's, like, you know, not fully upstate New York. It's kind of, like, in the middle by Syracuse or Buffalo. And yeah, I like to say, like, people like to act like it's a suburb. I'm like, no. Like, it was a face. They got a hell of a twang up in Manhattan, but you don't have that same sound. No. So this is a totally different situation now. Yeah. This cold is hell up there, anyway. You look at it, though. It is. It definitely snows more in Rochester. What about it? I'm saying it's cold up there, but you looking over there? It is. What is New York and over there? Go ahead. Let's get back to it. So then after that, you know, around, like, like 1920, I went out to LA. And then I did a whole bunch of shit out there. So you were raised with your mom and dad? Yeah. They stood together. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Brothers and sisters? I got four siblings. It was five total. Oh, OK. So brothers and sisters? Yeah. Oh, I have three brothers. One sister. OK. So are you the only one that is like the comedic side, or did you get it from your mom or your daddy, grandparents? I definitely got it from my mom. You know, my mom was really smart. And so, like, she has a degree, a master's degree in psychology, so, like, she could just read people really well. So, like, without even trying to be funny, she just says, like, a lot of things about people that's really real. So, yeah, I feel like I get that from her, but. Baby, just tonight, when we went down to see Bubba Dubb, she was there. Was she there that night? I don't know. No, I don't think she was the one on the stage. Because there was one on that stage that night. I don't know what her. Because boy, if it was, we'd feel to have a hell of a situation there. But keep going. What happened? No, it was a hell of a night that night. But we ain't going to get into it. I'm saying, well, she was with three girls, wasn't it, about three of them? Oh, no, no, no, that wasn't me there. Oh, well, I'm just hoping like hell it wasn't. But anyway, because it's not going to be good. You know, I can't lie. Sometimes, you know, you know, the truth comes out here because I'm a godly man. What is the truth? Well, I ain't going to go there because they ain't here to defend it. You know, listen, though, but if they was here to defend themselves, boy, out of there, I don't wish to know. You never know who you're going to ask. It might be her. You're going to name names. It wasn't all. I like to name names. But you don't even remember the names. You don't even remember the name. Oh, yeah. But I remember the swag. And I knew that wasn't you because you too sophisticated, really, you got a little more sophistication than she had. You know what I'm saying? She would not get off the stage, though. Hell no. Oh, no, no, no, that's not me. It was all night. They were flashing the lights. I was in that old confused, but having a great time. You remember that? I was dripping on that. I didn't think about me. She wouldn't get off. I'll be like, ugh, I'm done. They're like, yeah, I don't probably do it there. You're going up there four times. They were flashing. I didn't know all the signals y'all had. They were flashing lights. They had lights from the booth coming. They had the man come up. He stood by the stage. It was all count. I said, damn. I did not know they do this. And she was still going in. I said, this can't be her. She done brought her ass up right about the top. I did that one time. I did that one time and my big brother in comedy was there. He was like, did you not see the light? I was like, what you mean? Like I said, he was like, no. You didn't know. And so after that, I was just like, I'm very aware of time. But I have to go up after people sometimes who do that. And you have to cut your time short if they took too much time? That happened to me recently. Yeah, somebody was going longer than they were. Was you upset? I'd have been mad. No. You're like, I'm going to get my money anyway. Yeah, I'm like, I'm just going to do what I'm going to do. He's a knight from the moon. I cut the short and tied. It was like, it's less work. That's like if you had a day like, OK, do an 8-hour shift, but now just do two hours. But we're going to pay you the same. But it's different. To me, when you love what you do and you planned out, OK, this is my skit. This is what I'm going to say. And this is going to be funny. And I already thought about they're going to crack up. They're going to this, they're going to that. And then you go up there and you can't say everything you want to say. Yeah, but sometimes after you go up after certain people and then it is long and then they started to show lay. And it is just like, I do other things. You know, I have to. This is not the last show ever. So it's like. She going to walk out. Because it depends. You know, it depends. When it's a show, when it's a lot of people on there, you just got to take it. Like, there's so many people. If you let that bother you, it's like, but then there's certain shows where it's like, nope, just to line up as a tight show. Everybody does everything and you work together all weekend. So I got a question. So going by the TMZ. So, you know, we all been watching TMZ know what TMZ is all about. So when you finally got there and did your thing, what were you thinking that it would be like compared to when you actually got there? You know, what's the difference? Man, like, cool. I would say I expected it to be like, I don't know. Not I want to say harder, because it was definitely challenging to have to wake up every day early as hell, but. What time you got to wake up? We shot pretty early. So I had to get up at like 4.30 a.m. Get to set by 5.30. We do a make up to like 6.30. Get on set by 6.45, like. So it was early in the day. It takes an hour to do the makeup. Yeah, well, because there's other people in the cast too, so you wait for your spot, whatever. How many females? It was one other one, Amber Diamond. She was on Wildin' Out too. It was super dope, but yeah, like, I feel like they were just super chill, like, I don't know. Everybody was just really normal. A lot of people who were on the TV show were also writing and doing other things in the office, so it was like, but also too, I was amazed at how much information comes in. Like we were able to hear about stories with celebrities and stuff before it hit the internet because they really do break so many news stories. So it'd be crazy. I'm getting brief of what's going on. It's like, yeah, it's about to get posted in like 30 minutes, but this is what's happening, da, da, da, da, da, da. And I'm like, dang, the world doesn't even know yet. Like, that's crazy. So that was what was amazing to me was like, damn. Because they have their own investigators and everything like that. That's how they get all this news beforehand. Or do people just send the information in because they're TMZ? Yeah, it's both ways. It's like everybody in the industry knows somebody. People are people's assistants. People are people's gardeners. You know, somebody's friends with somebody who's Kylie Jenner's makeup artist. Like it's just, and people love to talk and gossip about people. Like, you know, they really get excited to be like, yo, guess what I saw this person doing? So it's kind of, they kind of snitch, you know? Yeah. No, because I know that every time when I watch TMZ, I be like, seem like y'all have like a lot of fun because they'll be just laughing and having a good time. Like y'all don't even notice the cameras or y'all don't notice anything. Yeah, they film really fast too. That's what I like about it. Because sometimes with TV shows, you have to do so many takes of it. And it's like, it could take all day. How many takes y'all do? None. Just one time. Yeah, they'll be like, all right, y'all talk about this one topic for six minutes. All right, next story. Okay, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like we'll film the show within like 45 minutes to an hour, then get it done, get it edited. Because it's not live, is it? It's not live. No, they do have a live show though too. But no, this one was the hip hop show. So they don't have to like hit out no bloopers or nothing like that, bloopers stay in there. No, they edit it, you know, but they just move really fast and get it done. That's what I like too. Cause I'm like, that reminds me more of the digital age. Like, you know, just going with it and getting it done. How does it feel to be one of two females in where there's so many males in that industry? I think it's cool because we work really well together. Like we know how to have like different point of views. And you know, me and her, we always like to buy the cause we was the only two that like actually spoke on the show, you know, the guys, none of the guys spoke. So like after the show, we'll be like, all right, cool. Let's go smoke, let's go chill. We'll be like, damn, it's funny, only the girls smoke on the show. So it was like, that was my buddy. So, you know, we knew how to play off each other really well. So, okay. So getting back to your comedy, when did you first start your comedy? Like how old were you? I would say I really started doing it probably like 25, so like four or five years ago. You started late, why? Because you know what? I was doing sketches online. So I was writing sketches and, you know, I was hosting different daily shows and but it was like with other comedians. So I was like, you know, I was still making people laugh. So I was like fulfilling that need, but in a different way. You was doing sketches. Yeah. But explain to me what that is. That you having back in. So what? You was doing sketches. Yeah. Well talk to me about these sketches. You know. Skits, sketches. What y'all were doing? Many movie clips. What was y'all, who was you with? I was with a lot of different comedians. A lot of people from all deaf, I don't know if y'all watch like all deaf digital online. What y'all, y'all was cutting up? Yeah, we got some funny shit on there. Like, you know, a lot of it went viral. That's what a lot of people know me for. I interviewed Alex Thomas. I said all that to say this. I interviewed Alex Thomas and he was like, you know, being funny for five minutes is definitely in comparison. It does not compare to having to stay on that stage and do a whole set. So he, you know, that funny that you guys are doing, sometimes rubs the older comedians in the wrong way. So I've had a bunch of dilemmas on here about this now. I want you to answer this question correct. Cause you the first lady to answer this question. When it comes down to the old comedy. I'm talking about Martin Lawrence. Not sure that old like that just started out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Martin Lawrence, Eddie Murphy on the, on the, on the TV, doing that thing, doing that residual thing, Faizon Love, all of these cats versus the new, which is the country Wayne and all of these other guys, the Dezzy Banks, the Bubba Doves, the, okay. These are two different worlds in comparison to one another. Which one do you think, you know, bringing in that cheddar is the better way to go in this day and time? Definitely. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Don't answer this wrong. I'm not, listen, I'm not worried about nobody. But no, I mean, the thing is it's like calling them old is kind of like, dang, the old versus the new. I'm old, yeah, they're old is great, they're old. Okay. Being old and then it's like, okay, like they've accomplished so much so much that they had to trailblaze a lot, you know. But some of them can kind of still, let me think of who still is older to go with viral. Ooh, dang. What you mean? Dezzy Palace, shut all you young niggas now, but I'm not talking about that. I'm just saying, you know, they ain't old. They die, they hurl, but they still great. Don't go at them fully. I'm just a real cat, round it up. Well, I know them niggas great. I don't have to see it. I know they grow up and they shave and all their hair is up. They shave. I'm saying like the people who are like, you know, the Dezzy Banks and even, you know, everybody who's from that same type of generation that we're from is like, by the time you are Dave Chappelle's age, hopefully you will have accomplished somewhat. You know what I mean? You're gonna be in a different category, but we have more access to get more popularity and more opportunities now. We do. I get it. You can say that, but these people have. It's like a digital platform. It's a cheat code to get a lot of success. That's not a real cheat code. Not everybody who's funny online even wants to do stand-up though. And that's the thing. A lot of stand-up comedians who are older, as you say, they do try to gatekeep, you know. But the cheat code you're talking about is not really a cheat code. They're not real. It is. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. What are you talking about? They talk about the residuals. Residuals, when you look at older people, the Will Ferrells, all these old comedians, they getting checks from old chicks. Right. You talking about from TV shows that they had? Yeah, all the stuff that they did. But not from stand-up. Even if it's stand-up and it's one that they went on HBO or something where they still get residuals. Now, don't try to edge guy, I'm old. I know about this. But the thing is though, I mean, Wallin' Out has residuals, so a lot of these comedians are old. That's my boy, Carlos. He was on there. Yeah, so, you know, they have very good residuals. Well, I don't know about that. I heard a difference. See, now you talking in my lane again. You know what I'm saying? Okay, they do get residuals. But I mean, they're gonna have time to accomplish that and earn the residuals. But when I say it's a cheat code, I mean like people who have a digital following do stand-up for a year. And then I see them headlining theaters with, you know, 10,000 people in it. And the people opening for them are some really well-trained, you know, veteran comedians, but they're opening up for, I won't name names, but they're opening up for digital, you know, people who've been doing stand-up for 320 days. And now you're headlining and it's like, damn. And a lot of times, you know, but then you keep doing it, you're gonna get better. You're gonna get better. You're gonna get better, but you're still not gonna be like the way it was. Because the way it was, when they would build, they would go, they would start doing movies and then they would do stand-up, but they have a whole HBO special and it was just a different time, but they was building them up in a way to where it gave them generational wealth. Okay, but on the side of the internet, hey, I'm digital, they basically give it, you do it, and when you do it, basically you done it and it's there, but that's it. There is no contractual agreement. And the other day, I thought they were gonna shut the YouTube down, they scared the hell out of me. So let me tell you something, baby. You don't really have a lot of leeway like that. But once you start to grow, then you know somebody who actually works with you. They're gonna shut the damn Instagram down. Representative, if you have an Instagram representative, you have people that you can directly call it in contact to, it's like, it's a cheat code. So I feel like anybody, even if you're an older comedian, shouldn't they even try to do stuff that's on the digital? No, they should, I've always said that they should, just combine the both. If you've been doing, y'all been saying older comedian, newer comedian, so if the older comedian been doing their thing, earned their money, like why not branch off, learn the newer wave, and combine the both, you'll earn even more money. And then still show the newer wave comedians how to earn my money too, and both of y'all just make a big bag and be done with it. And I encourage even all of the people who've been doing stand up for years, I always encourage them to do more digital stuff, post rants, post your stand up clips, hop in, do different sketches, cause I think they're funny. I encourage Faisal and I love it, it's the other day, me and it was on the phone. We've been encouraging for the longest. He put me on the phone with Sags, he told me I got residuals, them niggas ain't making no money, they never sent me pictures of houses and cars and told me y'all booked, whatever. So don't play with me, I did niggas. When you talking to these niggas like I do, straight up, they gon' tell you, niggas please. I don't care about that, what about my house in LA? What about my house in Florida? What about this? I don't want to do none on the internet with you. I'm just being real, that's what I'm with you. I'm a child, but I've seen them do interviews with different online people, like I think Vlad T. Vlad, me and a couple more, but still I'm just saying he's not that guy that's trying to do the stand up and act up and run it cause you don't have to, but I'm just saying he- Wait ten years, because digital is on it. Digital is on it. Digital is on it. Digital is on it. Digital is on it. What do you mean wait ten years? Ten years, not a digital is gonna be good. Company shut down, you know what I mean? You better hope like on Instagram and YouTube. Not go with you, now you got me wishing things like. You wish this was for the poor. I wish this bet, you know. This question, let me tell you something. This question has been one that I have missed with people about ever since FaZe Uncum in here and then after that Mike Bliss came in here and then after that we talked to Carlos, but that was late on. Alex Thomas, Columbus short. It's been a back and forth thing. So I just put you in the mix to something. That's all I did. I told you that, that uh, Allie, you got to slam that thing. You are. But it does, it's a good question because those two worlds need to meet, especially if they having differences and they don't agree. Now listen, it's way better than it was like three, four years ago. It was really a time when stand up comedians did not like digital people trying to do stand up. And I would feel the hate and people used close to me. I'm like, y'all feel like you hating. Like, you know, like I just feel like you hate on people because you know that if they put their face on this they can sell tickets because they got all these people like, oh, I want to see how Dave is. You know, it's like, oh, I follow him online. He makes me love. I want to see him. Like it's not even just about stand up. But I think, you know, stand up has to grow and evolve just how hip hop had to. Oh, so stand up needs to grow and evolve. It's going to. Okay. It is. Okay, I'm just listening because I didn't say it. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, I get it because this is a new world order. Is that what you call it? I'm not trying to be the leader of this movement. You know, because I respect all the comedians. Nah, I shouldn't be over like, I be messing with people too much, right? Dang it. I love this man. They don't know you in a minute though but they know how you feel now about it. So they ain't like, that's so good to see that on Bob's talk. Yeah. She was like, that's okay. I'm in my dressing room, stay in your room. I mean, I've been vocal about it. So you really, no, no, you really, you're dope to be able to even understand how to live in both worlds, you know? How hard was it when you first, did I miss that part? Did you talk about how hard it was when you first got on the stage already? The hardest part was having like somewhat of a following online or like, especially in the comedy world, a lot of people watched the comedy sketches I did on on Def. So when I walk in they'll be like, yo, yo, yo, you mad funny. And I'm like, dang, like this is my third time on stage. So I got to like, you have an expectation of me being this level. And I'm like, so I didn't get to practice in silence. Like a lot of comedians get to for a few years. I from the very beginning was like, people being like, oh, I don't see it before. Oh, no, no, no, especially other comedians or people who know comedy. So I'm just like, Carlos Miller said something that was so live and so dope. He said, why would you, being that you a person that do, you know, internet-based stuff, whether it be skits or whatever, why would you come into this world and to the people who know you like they know you and change it and try to do something else other than what you do? And I thought that was so dope because he said you, he would come in, take a selfie, do the stuff he do with that crowd cause that crowd is coming to see him and be his self cause that's what they come to see. You know what I mean? If you want to do improv, I think, you know, it would be fun for me to do some improv shows and stuff like that. But that kind of goes tie into like doing what you do on Wild'n Out. But like, no, I want to do stand up. Like some people who are digital creators actually want to do stand up, grow up watching stand up and they want to do that. So it's like, no, I'm not going to just do that. And just the world can know me for one thing playing a crazy girlfriend in a sketch, but I have a million things I could talk about and I'm not about to just be online doing sketches so I don't agree. Damn, I like that. She went the different way with it. She wants to be phasing on with Leica because she wants to really get out with what he does and that stand up. Who did you see early on that made you feel this way about stand up? You know who really did, Kat Williams. That nigga a fool right there. Did you see him fighting a little 15 year old boy? That was interesting. Yeah, nigga, don't play with me. That was interesting. Yeah, nigga, don't try to play. I brought it all up over here. I was talking about the first try. It was such a beautiful moment that I was about to describe to you. You're like, yeah, I'll bring it all the way here. And when he was in Philly, he jumped at the meeting and he was like, what did you like about it? No, like when I really, I would say like Pimp Chronicles, it was just like the time it came out in the age I was, it was like one of the first specials I watched and I understood and I just like, for the first time it was like, oh, comedy is a thing and certain people can do it because it was just, I don't know, it just clicked in my mind of like, stand up comedy, people do can take a thought and turn it into a whole joke. And it's like, things that I never thought before, he's making me laugh and it was just like, something just went off in my head like, oh, comedy. Like people do this, this is a gift. This is a real thing that like, you do. But the more I watch him and I see him, the more I'm like, oh, he's still calculated with it. Now knowing how people do jokes and do stuff. But back then it just looked like magic. He looked like a magic trick. And he was like, I wanna be a magician, like, you know? But now I can see like, oh, he set it up like this and he took it here. I could see the bone structure behind the chest. But it's still amazing to me, I still love it. But like, yeah, can't wait to see the first person. He's a Virgo too. He's a very competitive person. Big Court came on here and told about a basketball game that they played for a chopper. Yeah, and basically he lost and then he tried to kill Big Court. Wow! See, you think I'm making this up? You know what I'm saying? Big Court came down here from California. He flew in and he told me- I just think he has a lot of energy. I think he's so good at cutting into his car. He came at 80 miles an hour, 100 miles an hour, boom, and totaled this truck outside to kill my boy. You gotta live your life. You got so stories, you know? No, this is what happened. You can look back at it. This is real talk. Did I say I didn't believe you? Like, I was like- I couldn't believe it when he was telling me, like, what the hell is this? We're ended him. Like, I'm gonna play this clip in the middle that you know I am. He said that we're ended him and because he beat him in a game of basketball now the guy is about 6'3", 6'2", and Cat is how tall? About 5'4", 5'1", 5'0", 5'4"? So the n***a, the n***a, the n***a, the n***a, the n***a playing a 6'3", n***a for a chopper. This made no sense to me, but- Is he still cool, we cat? No, they fell out. We got on the thing and tried to be cool with him. The n***a tried to kill him. What do we do? Did you beat cool with somebody who tried to do that to you? That's very right. No. Okay, dude. And Big Court is Master Pete's best friend. Right. So this is some real- He did a guest episode on TLC Hip Hop. So it makes sense now. I know exactly. He's talking about Big Court. That Big Court, he said- I know exactly. He's talking about him. He was a guest host on TLC Hip Hop, but I said that's funny. Yeah, him and Cat. You don't matter about that. He said Cat tried to kill him. That's funny. That's funny. That's not funny. No, it's not funny, but what's funny now is because I can picture who you're talking about. And I'm like- Playing basketball against him. You tried to do that to him. So this is the guy that you brought him up. I wanted to try to figure out how to relate to Cat William. That's what I got. Yeah, yeah. Well, at Pip Chronicles, I don't think that had happened, you know? No, I think it's dope that you would find somebody that you like, like that somebody that you can relate to. Is it any other women that still got you? Because he got not a long hair like a girl, but- Right. I know, no. Who was this? Women? Like what? Like Monique. You like Monique? Or do you think she sold that lead that? No, what do you think about Monique? What I like about Monique is that, you know, she's to the ground. I like anybody who can stand their ground. I blocked somebody today. Well, no, I almost blocked him. I didn't actually block him, but I was just kind of like taking a step back because he had called me. He like, why you didn't answer the phone? I'm like, I just need some distance. I don't think this is healthy for us. And he's like- He's a comedian too? I'm not gonna get into that. And he's like- No, you're not calling the name. He's just saying he's a comedian. You know, he's in the world. Come on, this is what I do. But listen, it's just, you know, it's something, it's a situation that I'm like, this is not, you know, we just know a relationship can be so toxic. I feel like this is blocking my blessings. So I gotta get rid of you. Oh, okay, got you. Because you in your bag, it's just gonna block. Did that nigga put his hands on you? No, I've been left. That's the reason they're done. But my thing is, just what he said to me, he was like, you know what? You always go back and forth with me like this. If you say this, you need to stand on it. That's aggressive. And I was like, you know what? I do have a problem standing on it. Like sometimes I say something and I'll be like, I'll take it back. Like, you know. So what I love about Monique, I said that to say, while I emotionally unloaded on y'all, felt good. And I said that to say, Monique stands on it. You know, she feels something is something that I think she really has thought to that she feels. And she stood on it all the way until Lee Daniels came back apologizing, gave her another role. So I just gotta stand on it. Exactly. But do you know how much hell she went through trying to stand on it with you niggas? Do you know how they treated her? I watched them demolish her character. Yeah, it was a bunch of them. It felt like to me that everybody was against her. She went on the breakfast club and she called, what's that boy's name? Charlemagne, what did she call his real name? Lennard. Lennard. And she was handling that nigga real well. But at the end of the day, when she left. But that was a classic Auntie fight. Well, I'm gonna call her Auntie, some people be like, don't call me Auntie. When she left, she felt like, and I felt it for her, cause I'm a fan. We paid to go see her a lot of times when every other nigga turned his back on her who he was there for. Yeah, we went to the show. He turned his back on her. Y'all did, your people did. No. Where your people did it? Lee Daniels' name was hard on her. But he don't represent everybody. He was on through the whole thing with Empire and Chastity. He represented a lot of people. If he get mad at you and you do something kind of wrong, he can shut you down. He's with a group, elite group of people. They do not play. Then why are you trying to play with them niggas? But my girl, she out there, but you see. She'll be fuckwin' like, let's talk about it. But the girl still stood her ground on you. That's some of her, that's handy. Oprah and Tyler Perry didn't, I think, three people. Wait a minute, say that again. I don't know you. I know you was that mole. Let's go. Yeah, her Oprah and Tyler. Yeah, like she was, cause they was working on a movie together. So Oprah and Tyler Perry did what? I don't remember exactly what they did, but I think they didn't pay her. They wanted her to go on a press run and they didn't pay her. And she let them have her. She was like, I'm not gonna go. And then I think she said that people said she was hard to work with. And I never seen that. And did you think she was like that? Cause you never heard nothing like that before that happened between her and Lee Daniels. I think I definitely stand on the side of like, people don't think they have to pay women as much as they pay men. And then especially black women in Hollywood, like it's a known fact that they'll pay less because they just see less value. So it's like, yeah. The only way they paid less. But you heard that a lot though, with the female industry, you always, with the females, you always hear that, oh, she's hard to work with. She's too much of a diva. You don't really hear that about men as much. That, oh, he's hard to work with. He's this. He thinks he's that. You hear it mainly about the females. And men be doing all this sexual assault, sadness, emotion. You know what I'm saying? It may be years and years of it before it comes out. That's what you're not gonna do. I've been waiting on it. Yeah, whatever. I'm gonna tell the truth. A lot of times women jump up and put themselves in situations mentally that a man might not even be taking it there. So a lot of times women are already scorned and bringing baggage into the whole damn place, talking about somebody looking at them. Nigga ain't even studying them. I had one here last night. It utterly amazed me what was said because I seen what I seen. I'm like, why the hell wouldn't Nigga do that? So don't get on here talking about every man just because you think every man wants you. I didn't say every man. No, I'm just saying. Some women, I didn't say every woman, but some women in their mind have this, this persona that every man is looking at them when I can guarantee you just because a man speak to you don't mean he wants you. I mean, no. Yeah, but it's a lot of them think that. I know they think that. Cause I done had them on here. So I'm just going to be real with you. Ain't nobody looking at all y'all. So I'm gonna y'all- It seemed like you talking to somebody, you know, I'm just like- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying. Like, listen bitch, you was in here. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I might have to cut this part out cause if we put it out too fast. But she won't know. But at the end of the day, if you think somebody's looking at you, if you think somebody wants you at every place you go- Every place you go? Sweetheart, I was here though. You take a look in the mirror and make sure you look close. Right. Yeah. Cause mama lied to you. Don't do that. Mama never lied to you. You know what I'm saying? Don't do that. No, but it's a lot of them that it is a true case too. So I understand that part. No, yeah, for sure. It gotta be balanced, man, in your decision and your thinking. You can't thank everybody, won't you? If they do want you, they just know one thing, a lot of them. And then when they see it, or get in the room with it, they might not even wanna know. To a physical touch or by the time, you say a certain thing, it's like people get caught red handed. They be wild and even politicians, you know, like get caught sending dick pics and stuff like that. You ready for sending? What about the women? You get caught with a screenshot trying to get an abortion and you say you're an anti-pro choice, but you're a public man. What about the woman that go get pregnant by somebody that you just met and jump in the bed with them and sending all type of, man, I need child support so she can even get the damn pregnancy. Nah, I'm saying, it's two sides of every story. I'm not for to let y'all just bitch with me. No, it's not what I feel. Babies aren't what I feel. Nothing, it's very few things. Yeah, it's a lot of balancing going on. If a man did it, a woman could have did it. It's the same thing to me. They lie a little better than us too. And they hide it a little better. I'ma just say that. That's my personal opinion. I'm sticking to it. Boss talk one on one where the boss is talking, you know what I'm saying? I don't mind saying women do anything better. I'll take it. We lie better than whatever you say to me. I'll take it all day. I just say we all the same, man. I think a lot of times it's a tug of war. No, women are better. No, it's a tug of war. Because it's very much a tug of war because you want to be right. And then, you know, I'm just sitting back here just listening a lot of times cause I don't even want to argue with you. You know what I'm saying? Let me get some. So what do you see the comedy or what do you see yourself in the next year, year and a half? I definitely want to do more stuff on TV. I got this show, this podcast on Defiant Digital and it's called Funny Advice. We had Carlos on that one. We've had a lot of different comedians on it. How long ago did y'all start that? We just filmed it in August and then we released two episodes and then we're about to do six more. We're about to drop six more. So, and then I'm a chill for the year. So y'all don't drop very often? We just were kind of like testing it out and getting the flow of it and seeing what we wanted to do and then getting fillers out to see where we could take it and stuff. But I didn't want to film a whole bunch of things cause it's like I want to see it and then adjust and then make it better and then see what I could do. Okay. So your main focus is your comedy? Yeah, I mean comedy and creating too. I don't like doing just one thing cause it's like you can get sick of it. So it's like having a little break here and there, being able to do other stuff is fun as well, you know, like with the hostess. Your attention span is short, isn't it? Yeah, I'm very hyperactive. So I like doing like multiple things at once for sure. I can tell. He said, I couldn't really help. I thought I was here mad, calm, I wasn't even too fidgety, you should not have thought I'm covering it up. Like, yeah, I'm a little hyperactive. I like it. You know, I can keep a little calmer now. What's the name of your podcast again? Funny Advice on Defined Digital. That's crazy. So when you think about, what do you want to gain from this podcast? For this podcast, really I just want to get more connected with Dallas, you know. Well, you're in the right place. Yeah, I'm based out here now cause my family moved out here. So I go back and forth from like here to LA and Atlanta and different places. But yeah, you know, I like Dallas. I want to grow out here. I want to build like my production company out here. Start bringing more like the film stuff that I learned in LA and kind of just grow out here and kind of see like Tyler Perry and Oprah and shit and grow. I think it's like you can have more space to grow. But I really like Texas. Who else you say? Oprah in Chicago and then Tyler Perry was out. He built his whole thing, he filmed everything. Yeah, he do. I went down and looked at that massive thing. That's massive. So what's your top three comedians of all time that are alive? Oh, that's so hard. I don't know. Top three. Cat Williams gone and say him cause you already said him one. Definitely Cat Williams. I can help you with this. And then I would say Bernie Mac too because I definitely grew up watching the Bernie Mac show. And I really think more comedians should have like comedy sitcoms coming back like that based off of jokes. They get residuals. Go ahead. And then I would just say Kevin Hart because it's like, you know, somebody who kind of has endorsed me in a lot of ways. And I think just the way he's a mogul is like, you know, that's kind of how like a lot of rappers looked up to people like a Diddy or you know, whoever like a Jay-Z, how you became a mogul. I think at least me as a comedian is like, that's a mogul. Right. You know. He said he's endorsed you in many ways. Tell me one way he has endorsed you. Well, just like, you know, when he started The Laugh Out Loud Network gave me opportunities to, you know, work with them, film stuff. And then gave me different brand deals to like help promote, you know, his movies and stuff. Like he worked with just influencers and was like, oh, if I'm gonna promote my movie instead of just paying for all billboards, promotions, let me like pay. And he flew a whole bunch of influencers out to Hawaii and like had us out there for the whole day. And he was just there filming sketches with us, you know. And that's like, stuff like that is like, dang, not a lot of comedians who are, as you say, like the people who were before digital completely took off. Not a lot of them opened the doors like that. And they're still kind of competitive with it. But he definitely made it clear to us like, nah, I want to help. I want to build platforms that y'all can eat off of too. Yeah. So that's lit to me. I want to do that. I think you don't, I know you, you got that traction on digital, you know, the digital world. We grow and we grow. We're one of them type people, you know, and it's good to see people that look like me that's making moves on their own. Like how do you like it, the direct to consumer approach that the internet is brought to everybody? I love it. I think it's like, it's a way, you know, no matter, you can't control other networks and platforms and what they put on there, you know, this, it's like, if this is y'all's thing, this isn't gonna stop till you want it to stop. That's what I love most about digital. Like if I want to stop something, I'm gonna stop it. If I want to do something, I'm gonna do it. Like you're in control of it and that works very well for my brain. Do you wise country want it? Yeah, I do. What do you think about it? I think he's funny. I think he got a lot of kids, I think. He got a lot of kids. Wait a minute, wait a minute. I don't know why the damn minute. I said, I'm talking about the stuff y'all doing in the comedy world and digital world. You done brought that many kids up in there. Well, he includes that in a lot of his comedy. How many kids do we got? Since you tell me you got a lot of kids. That's what I thought. I was, I don't want to say eight, but I was like, oh, they might be six, your friend hanging up. It's eight or nine? Nine. Okay, what's the problem? It's nothing, but I'm just saying like. Because you make $430,000, the $430,000 a month. That's lit. So what about it? That's eight. And Jesus is popping. I'm just saying like that's somebody who can do a Bernie Mac type story. Like that's an interesting story line. You can't, that's just what I think of. Kids, a lot of kids. Damn. My nigga just, that's all you can think of? All them damn video, drip, all the stuff. I said something else first before that. I know she said that was the first thing I said. You said it got a lot of kids, right? So hold on, say that's the case. What's the first thing that comes on top of your mind when I say Nick Cannon? Um. What should it be? I guess now. First thing? No, no, no, no, no. The first thing. I'm trying to think it through. Yeah, don't think it through. First thing that comes to top of your mind. I would think businessmen. Yeah, but you think kids on my boy, they both got a lot of kids. Well, I know, I don't, I don't know country Wayne like that. I know Nick Cannon. But you know Nick Cannon, that's your boy, huh? It's not my boy, but it's like he, you know, he was on Wild'n Out, he's the boss on Wild'n Out. He came and did an interview for the other podcast I produced, Hot T, he came and did an interview on there. Super dope. So that's, that's why you show him fame and don't bring his kids up. Let's be real for a minute. That's what, that's the only thing say that new. You know what I'm saying? You the brother of the kids up here and did your show. Country Wayne, you might need to come do her show cause she bringing up your kids on there, man. Yeah, then I might be like, yeah, no, he's super, he's from here, he's from there, you know, yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. I can't argue when it's a good point, you know? No, I think it is. It does mean more to you when you link with people. I have link with Country Wayne and Mike and Jordan Jackson. So I'm not gonna sit on here and let you bring his kids up and I bring them back. Jesus. That he built up. I would think about Jesus. Jesus is popping. And he also takes, he employed all his family. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know who, I mean, and I heard, I had a guy on here. You ain't gonna say like I said such a man. I had a guy on here that was on the Wildin' Out cast and he, it was Wildin' Out for him. He got kicked off a few times. So I didn't even realize what was going on when I asked the questions I did, but he, and I put that part back in here too, where he just said that basically he, what make you think that I get some kind of information from that nigga? And I'm like, but y'all want the same show together, nigga? Yeah, stuff like that. So it's always, it's always some in and out of good for people. But for Nikki, it's a job. You know, it's like, it's a job, I'm got your way. Huh? It's a job. No, I was saying to what you say about like, I don't be knowing like, you know, for the kid in that Wildin' Out experience, it is like, yeah, he kind of, you know, he works with the cast members, it's not like that. Have you been on Wildin' Out like that? That's why you trippin' too? You be hangin' out with him over there when they can? No. Okay. I'm just tryin' to figure out what's goin' up. I didn't know what he said, and then I didn't want to like a writer can salt in on that stuff, but. You take care of your, you get your money and everything? Yeah. You wanna make sure you got your breath? Yeah, it's just a nice little well. It could definitely be hectic over there, but it's cool. Oh, wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, when you say hectic, what do you mean? Cause it's something you gotta dive into. Cause everybody from the outside lookin' in enjoy the show. We don't know about the hectic. We see everybody happy, laughin', havin' a great time. Everybody makin' jokie jokes. What's the hectic part? It's just cause it's like, you know, they got, they have a large cast of people, and then it's like, you're waitin' to see what episodes you'll be on or what episodes you're not on, so people don't know if they're on episodes or not. And then, you know, you film, but you don't know if your stuff is gonna air on the episode or if they're gonna cut it, and, you know, a lot of times it can mess with people, and it's like, it's a lot of energy, and it's a lot of people fighting for, you know, one position. Damn. And it's not like, you know, if you was on the NFL team, it's like, oh, you got the first train, you got the second train, but you know that's your spot. You know you're the starting quarterback. It's not really like that. Like it's like a few people kinda have a spot to do it like every episode, but everything else is like, am I on the first train today? I'm on the second train. Am I not on the team at all today? Like what's going on? You know, and I don't like catacombs like that. I don't like a whole bunch of things like, nah, that's why I rather just work on my own stuff. Well, you definitely got, you got great vibes only. You doin' your thing. Thank you. You know, you got your own stuff. You cute, you know, you got a lot going for you. Yeah, I appreciate that, because you was goin' in on people like, how dare this ugly bitch take anybody? Look at that hurt. Okay. Well, I guess I can't run nothin' again in that situation. You know, I just do my thing right here and just go on and end it then, huh? Nah, nah, nah, we gon' turn up again since you said it. No. Now thank you for comin' on the show. Yeah, no problem. Since you're a man, would you ever, I mean, cause it's hard dealin' with me. I might go here, there, boom, I don't care. Right, yeah. Now she's real structured. I don't give a damn. You know what I'm sayin'? It's a little valid. Nah, yeah. But I definitely enjoyed you, man. When is the next show? Cause did I miss that? Did we even ask you about the next show when it's comin' up? I mean, cause we don't know when it's gonna air. Oh, okay. I would say just follow me on Instagram, Cynthia Lucia, I always post when I have shows and stuff like that. Don't lie. Yeah. Man, thank you so much for comin' on the show. We love you. Thank y'all for havin' me. We appreciate you. Shout out to Dallas. Shout out to Dallas. Y'all see Cynthia, man. Y'all get in her inbox. She gon' hire a lot of people, right? Yeah, she's startin' a big production thing like Tyler Perry. I was in the interview when I heard it. So we lookin' for a call out. She doin' her inbox and, well, damn! Right, for real. This is a good time stamp. She just gon' basically try to get you guys locked in, man. If you're in the actin', all that good stuff. Comedian, she gon' need some undercards, right? You need all that poppin'. You do, for sure. Let's go, man. Check it, man. It's been another great segment of Bosses Talks. Yeah, but how much people hit me all the time? You know what? What a Bosses Talk, man.