 session we can. So thank you very much for your live here. And after you're going to check the microphones, sometimes we have some problems we need to help people here. So first thing I'd like to thank you again now recording. Recorded I'd like to thank you David for all the support you're always helping us. So thank you very much. You're very nice and a friend of mine of us. So thank you very much David. I'm gonna start talking in Portuguese just to welcome our speakers. So David thank you very much. In the event that we're celebrating this month of March that we have the Women's Day, the International Women's Day, we planned with a lot of love here in the community of the Brazil Capital of the Hyperledger Foundation. We planned a special event with some guests. My name is Marcelo Tader here as one of the leaders here in the community, together with Cânton, together with other volunteers organize that promote, that contribute bringing people to talk, making events, supporting the discussions and the contributions of our social networks. Soon I'm going to put our social networks here in the chat here at our meeting. So we organized this event with a lot of love to make a tribute to the women who every women's day, but it's a special event. It's remembered on March 8th, the International Women's Day and March 1st. So we have a series of events. We didn't want to let it pass in white to express our gratitude that we have. We have our president, Global Director of the Hyperledger Foundation, a woman, Daniela Barbosa, entrepreneur, super talented, super competent, with broad knowledge, has been bringing the Hyperledger Foundation all over the world. We have other women like Karen Lothoni, who is always with us in the community, together with other initiatives. And we have here in Brazil many, many women who are contributing a lot with the community, with the ecosystem of the Hyperledger Foundation, with the various platforms that are available. So we have people in several areas. We have developers, analysts, lawyers, web designers, economists, anyway, teachers. We have all the areas of knowledge. And of all the levels, we have a lot of people, a lot of women contributing. So we really appreciate this contribution that we wanted to express our gratitude. And today we have many people who can contribute and will contribute. But for today's event, our special event of this month, we invite Dr. Adriana Siliprandi, a volunteer, lawyer, of the Digital Law, to be there in the community, working in Web3 for a long time. She has a lot of knowledge, a very dear person who adds, who congregates people around her, to projects. Then we also invite Diana Udri, who is a prosecutor here in the state of Paraná, working in the legal area, who has a spectacular job in this part of the Tributary Law, of the new coins, of the new economic concepts that Web3, the blockchain, is bringing to us. She has a very deep academic study. She is the leader of several research groups, including the AB of Paraná, she will tell a little story about you. And we have Solange Geiras, who is here with us, who is doing an incredible job. We have admiration for Solange, for what she does, for the government, for the analysis. And Solange has a very special characteristic that she knows how to do and know how to explain. I have seen several courses, videos and lectures from her. Solange has a very accessible didactic, right? We think, wow, how can I not think about this before? So I want to pass on this moment the word to Dr. Adriana Siliprandi, to complete her presentation, and then to pass on to our colleagues, Adriana, Dianne and Solange, to make this chat. I will be here all the time, the ambassadors, to give support to the people who need it, and you can feel free to touch on your time in the way you find it better. So thank you very much for that. Adriana, can you please do this presentation and continue our event here? Thank you. Thank you, Josélia. Thank you for the invitation. I also want to thank Dianne and Solange, because they accepted first of all my request to participate on this day. Desperate period. So today we're going to make a light chat, so that, as we say here in Brazil, you are after our event, believe me. I don't know if Daita is here in Brazil or in Brazil. I'm traveling, but I'm in Brazil. I'm from Catarina, I have a wedding here tomorrow, starting tomorrow. So I already came yesterday to tell you about the transit that we know, the reality of Brazil, right? But I'm in Brazil, in Brazil, this month I'm in Brazil. Oh, so it's great. Solange too? Even with the schedule, Solange? Also, this time I'm here, I'm three weeks in Brazil, so I'm here. This one, two more, I'm here. Oh, so it's not that soon I'm here for everyone here, so this is just us. It's perfect. Well, before we start, I want to ask for a license for you to read, because it's amazing to run with these girls, right? I have Daya as an inspiration, right? And I'm going to read, I'm going to start with Daya, by the order of Solange, which is in my order, right? So, Daya, more than ever, I'm just a fan, you know that, right? Last week we had the pleasure of sharing the podcast, so we already updated our history until last week, Solange. So I'm going to have a lot of things to play here with Daya, but I want you to bring new things for us to keep going, right? Well, I'm going to read with Ritmo and Daya, as she herself says, she started with 15 years old, so you can do all this here, right? She is a doctor at the Catholic University of Lisbon, a member associated with the Bell Blockchain and Artificial Intelligence for Business Economics and Law of the University of Florence and the Foundation of Viva São Paulo. Coordinator of the Post-Graduation Blockchain, right? Two groups, ESMAP and Parana, which is the School of the Magistrates of Parana, right? Daya, I ran if I was wrong. Parana is the General Manager of the Parana Quarter, right? That's right. Professor of the committee in numbers, courses of post-graduation, that's right. Member of the Commission on the Rights of Parana AB, right? That's right. I was there too, right? Paranastrante, Parana's Attorney General, author, among others, books, right? Blockchain, tokens and cryptocurrencies, a legal analysis, which already has here, a little warmth, the focus of the suppliers, because, according to the edition, it is on sale, right? Right? The truth, Adri, we are working on it. I don't know. It's still on sale, right? It's still on sale and then we're going to talk about the idea of what has already been sold, what is being sold and what will be sold, right? So, those are the things for us to talk about in the installation. And Solange, Solange, a little Korean heart for you, because I love to talk to the person who knows, who lives with me. I sometimes joke that if I knew how to program, I would dominate the world. Solange dominated, because she knows, right? So, she is a woman from the world. It's interesting to talk to you, our people ask, what time is it? Because, wow, then we want to talk a little bit, but our work is not possible to be anywhere, right? Why? Because we can work remotely and we need a backpack to work, basically, right? Well, Solange is an educator and developer in blockchain with ethereal focus, smart contracts and bitcoin. Master in Digital Courage, works with technology for more than 20 years, also started when I was 15 years old. Palestrante, global conferencing, also won awards from several hackathons, that's true, I know. Founder of ethereal Samba, listed in top 50 and top 2 for women in the Coiple Graphics of Brazil, right, Solange? We need some information here that I didn't collect. It's great, it's great Adriana. So, perfect. And see here, our offer today is very well presented. And I want to send the ball to you, right? What do you, in the trajectory, I want you to talk a little bit Hello to those who don't know as much as I do, the trajectory of you. I want to know more, it's obvious, but I know a good part. How was your trajectory up to here? So much of the academic part, of the studies, right? The professional work involved, using blockchain, right? What brought you up here? I always say that we are the reflection of our choices, right? Because a path could lead us to a path, or a choice could lead us to a path completely different. I'm here with a series of choices that I made. And I want to understand from you what were the choices that you made in the past so that you get here with this whole package and with all this knowledge to share. Well, it's up to you who want to start. I'm going to block my microphone just to avoid noises here, but I'm going to be there, okay? I'm not going to ask any questions, I'm going to ask. Okay? I'm going to leave Solange, Solange, please. Okay. Well, guys, I started with blockchain 2017. I even say that I started by the black side of the force, because I started getting into scams, doing everything that could be wrong. I started understanding Bitcoin, especially Bitcoin, and thinking that I had to miner, and that my computer didn't serve to miner, so I'm going to miner in the cloud, and I entered a lot of sites that didn't work out. I lost a Bitcoin in 2017, this at the beginning. And then I went to understand better what I was doing, what was happening, what was the blockchain, what was happening at the beginning of the year, July arrived, I was already doing my first Bitcoin lecture, and it goes on for a while, in January 2018, when I ended up making a reference to Ethereum here in Brazil, because I was in Campos Pari, in São Paulo, there was a blockchain arena, so many workshops, blockchain lectures, and exactly there, in the last day, one of the instructors, one of the lecturers couldn't compare to the workshop, and the people who were around me already asked me, you can teach us, you know more than we do. So it's okay, I offered myself to do a workshop live, without having anything prepared, I went with my computer to the stage, and I did a workshop for two hours. So I taught the people to create a permissioned Ethereum network, and I taught them to create a token, which was the same token smart contract that Vitaly used, which was not in documentation, they left it a long time ago, and we did all of that together, there. And after these news reports, related to the crypto, I was interviewed, and I ended up becoming a reference to Ethereum, so here in Brazil I'm used to be invited to all the conferences that have blockchain, then even to talk about the subject that I have at the moment. And following this trajectory, at that time, since 2017, I went to my first international conference, which was at Bitcon, in Bogotá, and I discovered that to bring knowledge, to learn, I had to go to conferences outside. Before the pandemic, there were not so many things online, so it was difficult to material. So I went there to learn, and I learned and brought knowledge to Brazil, and I was trying to teach in Brazil. I did that for many years. By doing that, for a long time, I also started to be a student outside, and I said that I went through three phases of my life. So I started being a student in Brazil, I started to be a student in Latin America. Today I'm already an international student, I do workshops all over the world, and I went through a phase three, until Adri talked about it, which is the phase of putting Brazil in the world. So not only to form people here in Brazil, but to attract other sponsors, other international companies to events that we can organize here in Brazil. So I put Brazil into focus and give opportunity for other Brazilians to go outside and also to experience these experiences in the world. That was what we did with Itzamba. The second hackathon of Itzamba just happened, now in Rio de Janeiro, last weekend, by sign. And normally, this kind of event, we do a bootcamp and a hackathon. The idea is first, without education. I did the bootcamp all the time. I did the initiative trail, I taught for six hours, and there were two more advanced trails happening. After that, we had the people trying to make a project, not only the developer, but we needed a hackathon and a team, someone in business, someone in design. Hackathon is for everyone, everyone can learn. And that's it. So we brought international sponsors and we are giving visibility to Brazilians in the world. After I did that for the first time, I started to find more Brazilians in the event outside. I'm very proud of that. Some started to work in international companies, others got bags to go to events, and then we have more people learning. Today I work at Chainlink Labs. So Chainlink is a group of services for Oracle, which is the connection of smart contracts with all the data that are outside of blockchain. And through Chainlink, I go to all the events that I went to learn. Today I really go to make workshops and I do this all over the world. Last year, we did five laps around the world. At least that's what Google said about aviation. Going to events, since spending five weeks in Europe, going to eight different cities to make workshops in different places. And I think I went to Europe four times in some other countries in the United States. And I went to Turkey, to India. This year, it has already started to be agitated. We are in March. I went to Fizorg Shop in Lima, in Peru, also in Denver, which is one of the biggest events that we have there, from blockchain. Going back out here. And there was more. Because it's a lot of curves, it's a bad photo. I think we have to put Multina and Liane here. Let me see if I can do it. And that's it. Last week, I was in the river. Before the river, I went to Honduras, to San Pedro Sula, to Itilatán. And that's it. The event all over the world. I have already planned it. Now, Dubai, Sydney, some four cities in Europe. I have to spend two months of the second semester in Asia, from Singapore to Thailand, where we will go to Daeshikon. And it's a lot of things. I would say that this is the general of now. One thing I wanted to say, besides knowing about Diana, I think Adriana also has to tell us how she entered this world. She won't be just a moderator. We want to know about her too. I'll be the last one. It can be? Okay. So, let's listen a little. Well, first of all, good night, everyone. I am really happy to be here, sharing space with these women that I admire so much. Solange has been there for a long time. I work, I admire, I am a fan. Adriana and Amiga are friends here in Curitiba. I also admire the entrepreneur. She has an incredible eye for web-tests, for business, for visas. So, really, it's a joy. I am in the area of human sciences. But it has a big influence on technology for a long time. My father was a programmer, so I grew up in CPD, I grew up in contact with computers very early. My father was sure that I would be an engineer, because I always liked exact sciences. My biggest goal at Vestibular is in mathematics, in terms of what it looks like, but I ended up going straight because I like to talk, communicate and I ended up choosing. At the time of Vestibular, I didn't regret it. I think it was a career that I consider very important, that I even said to my parents, the right to not be a science that we need to see in a systematic and abstract way. So you have this more systematic thought, it helps a lot in the reasoning, even more in an increasingly evolving society than ours today. We stop thinking about the rate of transformation that has been enhanced by advanced technology with other behavioral innovations. This has brought a lot of challenges to the way we think about the law. The law is no longer static, so it's a challenge. And I say that getting in contact with Web3, with Blockchain, I started studying in 2016-17, so I'm kind of close to Passolange. It was by chance, I heard about Bitcoin and I had already mastered it at the time. And then I went to read and started thinking about the impacts of that in the distribution operations and so on. I wrote an article in Valor, which was published at the time, because of the article that was invited by the president of the Commission at the time of the Innovation Management to Captain the Group of Debates on the subject. And there, the look of the whole revolution of society really caught me. And since then, I have dedicated my whole life. I say that I am several things today. I am a researcher, I am an act. But everything that brought me here is a parallel act of the academic life that today the professional also ends up being multiple, right? So it's the look of society to understand that when we talk about Blockchain or the technology of Blockchain, let's say we are from LT, we are not talking about investment, we are talking about a transformation of the economy, of the economic infrastructure, of exchange of values. The logic of the internet for exchange of information, we are now winning in the exchange of values. That's what we are building. And when you, as a thinker of human sciences, understand this, you understand that the business is very, very big. So I think that today one of my situations, as maybe what is shaking this path is to try to help in the transformation of lawyers who will have to deal with the transactions of how we will regulate, how we will distribute, how we will start the law, because this brings security in the business. So if you have this look ready, I think that if I could talk about how I am today, I was authored in the Intangible Tributation part. There is a book that I wrote just because I detected the absence of material in Portuguese for lawyers. So this book that I published in 2021, I think, in 2020, 2021, which I am now in the second edition. But it is this look and understand this movement to try to help professionals who will also have to act in this new world. How do we start looking at this? So today I created the first post-graduation course here in Brazil, voted for lawyers. I have one of the first books related to systematization for lawyers. But not only, I think that entrepreneurs also have a very quiet language. Now I started my international career. So I was invited to give some courses in some European institutions. I will start now in June, giving courses related to Web3, starting in the European Union, some educational and executive centers in Portugal. So I'm starting now the international career to try to take a little bit of this Brazilian expertise and to have a doctorate outside and bring me this possibility of exchange of legal systems. So that's basically what I could do. Quickly speaking, that's it. Since I was 15 years old, Solange, I also started when I was 15 years old. I thought, well, let me talk a little bit about myself. If you were to answer who I am, I am a vocational entrepreneur. Everything I see, I can be... I'm talking about a film. I'm already thinking about what I can do differently and how I'm going to do it and make it a business. So this is my vocation, entrepreneurship. Well, I have an academic career aimed at companies. I'm a technical entrepreneur, I'm an administrator. I've worked for more than 15 years in the traditional financial market. I was a manager in the financial market. And when I already paid my own bills, I decided that I was going to fulfill my dream, that I always wanted to be a lawyer since I met people. And then I went to the right university. I was already 24 years old, so I already had a certain maturity. I was already trained, I already had post-production in the management area, in the administration area. And I switched to Bitcoin in 2015, more or less. And I didn't take much seriously. And then in 2017 I started paying more attention and studying. And then I thought, isn't there something here? In 2018 I already knew Solange, in 2018 I went to the New York Consensus, I started to see this moment. No, the world works around blockchain technology. So let's study more to understand. In 2019 I launched this book which is Blockchain, Bitcoin, Smart Contracts. It's here because I took a class yesterday in PUC. After graduation in PUC a subject is called Blockchain, Bitcoin, Smart Contracts. Exactly the title of the book by coincidence. And I went to the students and my first book that I got, Master's Game, it was Blockchain Reload. This book I have, it's from 2016. If we can see, his edition is from 2016, but he wants my hand in 2017, more or less. So we have the same school, our class, practically. And then I have started in the area of using Blockchain technology and the consultancy for entrepreneurs who want to create products and services using Blockchain technology. So I make legal comparisons to the issues of evasion of debt, prevention of money laundering, how to behave in the federal recipe in normative instructions, say that it is a mobile value that the CVM has to act and other situations. And I like when Daie says that it is systematized. It is a engineering, because Daie said to me the other day I got up early because she is a person who wakes up early and says sitting in front of the computer I said, I'm going to make a mental map of what is popping up of new projects of law, of Mica, I stayed for another eight hours making a mental map. I left after lunch. I said, that's exactly it. Because of the law we have to systematize because there are several information, the laws are correlated, you can't print one to do something else. So I really liked this observation of last week until you said, I sat to make a mental map. And that makes a lot of sense to me. And then I am the author of some books also related to the theme I do part of the OAB of some some some discussion forums that we have I don't remember what your position is but you are the coordinator in the OAB? Yes, you are now I am a member I am already leaving the next generations of leaders I am a member I am not a leader but we debate a lot we have smart contracts blockchain and in that they generate some ebooks in these ebooks there are some published articles also in these ebooks this is a right-wing company in the unicoritative and for now it's just people So this is our background until now that brought us here and now I'm going to play for DAI to start then DAI we got here so our background is this and what are we doing today? besides you have already said that you have made international career and everything that is more future but I want to know now in this moment besides waiting for the wedding but jokes aside I think that the modern world and we have a lot of actions so today I say that I have the right information I have the gift I act as a prosecutor but I act in other fronts today I think I have a front educational in the sense of trying to the lawyers of this new generation with this look to what is happening and try to facilitate I think it's a facilitator because education for me is a great way of facilitating trying to facilitate the path bringing some directories who have already walked a few years ahead I have some some courses my ebooks I make a lot of content let's be aware of what is happening and let's start because we need people here to work to think, to form this that we need capacity people and understand what we are talking about and then in this act I have academic training so I go to several international events I even go to Portugal to attend some events June which is not the course then it is an event a lecture so I think it is important but besides that I also help as a advisor in several projects now I am I am now in the core of projects that I believe are not the blockchain as investment you understand how the blockchain makes sense in business models and I am looking at it a lot today I have to try to comment I have been very confident for the connection today looking at economic economic trend of the line of sustainability I think that when I look today at the trend of the economy of the new business models I can no longer associate the tokenization of many of the processes or of many parts of this and sustainability together because there is no way to say no and of course the special energy is coming in this combo all together so today I have looked a lot for this combo for these projects and I really have tried to understand the trends and helped in the development of some projects and specifically one that I am core which is my main focus today that I am developing related to this new agenda of sustainability looking at the pain of the economy and of course it will enter the blockchain but the blockchain will enter as something that makes sense inside the block where we are developing so that's what I'm doing so now I'm going to the other side I'm also starting a little I'm also participating in the side as a businessman now so that's it there's no way and that's what I think is cool because when you start to work in these areas of innovation and vanguard you get a little out of control so today I can't even speak about your lawyer why do you want to be a lawyer? we start to have contact with so many other subjects we start to have a fluidity I need to understand a business I need to understand management I need to understand I don't say technology because it's only for geniuses like Solange but we have to at least talk if we can talk to these geniuses so there's a little notion to drink a little bit of these geniuses but you have to understand how this will have repercussion here in the world from the point of view of business, of structuring of really of business model and then I think I'm a lawyer we have to look at the map of Brazil we have to look at the outside regulation without understanding for example that today when we talk about the launch of some projects there's a legal person whatever the legal helmet in the country X but you're going to be offering to potential investors on the Y11AW and then you understand what's the risk of that let's appease, let's understand what's the story outside you can't that's illegal but you have to have a notion to maybe connect with a lawyer who has expertise out there so you can be talking and understanding what's the best solution for your client to say look, I mapped this I think for this it makes sense and that so now we have to connect with such a lawyer to understand that we're no longer Brazil, the lawyer has to be global you have to have your macro look of everything that's happening so that's why I say, I don't even know if you're a lawyer lawyer, I think we're going to a different environment you're going to deconstruct and reconstruct I think this fluidity this learning process is what I love the most in this area I think I filled a bit of engineering that maybe I didn't go and you're the one who can say what's right I think it's both the other things that I can't even say what's right I mean, as a lawyer since I was a child I'm a bit vain I love being called a lawyer I love it but I understand this positioning that goes beyond we have to understand the solution is our genius but I have my genius here my husband is a technologist and then just so we don't get lost we were systematizing the laws that involve artificial intelligence then I started making a mental move I showed it to him, it makes sense you forgot about the ethical iso you forgot about the governance of the iso you forgot about the decision management system I said, wow, it's good to talk about intelligent people talking about intelligent people Solange, what are you doing today? Very interesting I really liked the documentary about this that we need more people who understand this because in the technology the same thing is happening we need more developers this year we have a strategy to bring more developers who are not in blockchain so that they know better this and I confess I talked a little bit about what I did last week but I will come back at the beginning of the year because then it will make sense what I am doing at this moment and at the end of last year I came to the company and I wanted to do two weeks of bootcamp focused on developers two weeks of smart contracts creating smart contracts using the chain link service in Portuguese, English and Spanish they are the first to ask I was sure because I wanted to do this alone and basically it was the time of the company that you are already there but at the end of the year take the accelerator rest I didn't even have that much support I had a few people who set up a setup for me and let's go together I had two people who were following me day to day and then at the company something came up that the people were not understanding what was happening at the beginning of the year because it was hitting the record of visualization on the youtube of chain link bootcamp in itself we had more than 5000 subscribers in the three languages, it was also another record and it was super fun at the end there were tasks for all the classes at the end who did all the tasks it was more than 20 tasks they won a certificate and we had 500 people who did it so I'm very proud that I started the year with this idea of wanting to help change your life put in practice the new year resolutions and people came and we did it together who wasn't doing it live I think I did it later because the bootcamp views on youtube already passed more than 50,000 so those 5,000 initial thinking in the 10 sessions I think everyone ended up doing it later it was like a superpower to start like that and it was so successful that the chain link is doing another one now there is a hackathon and we are saying no my focus has always been to do bootcamp and prepare people for education so that they have the necessary tools to participate in a hackathon so that's what is happening now but I said no, I don't do this again now but I've already tried to enter the xerox machine it didn't copy me so I have to prepare people in another way this whole week I'm doing training I'm training the new instructors so I'm training people who are volunteers within the chain link called developers experts they are developers who like it they believe a lot in the chain link they want to learn more so I'm doing a training with them so that they can give the next classes start the bootcamp now the first of April we are starting again in Portuguese, English and Spanish and two weeks later we will be in Turkish and Mandarin now we already have more than 10,000 subscribers that was another thing I talked about all right most people know English but we know that locally you do things in your local language makes a difference in Spanish in Mandarin I already went to Turkey and did a bootcamp a whole day with one of the boys who will teach translating my whole bootcamp now it's his turn to teach in Turkish so I'm doing training this whole week training on Monday they start teaching I'm going to do some but not all and I'll be close to them I'm trying to do a reproduction so we have more people with the same didactic with the same teaching technique and it's a difficult thing because it's so intuitive for me to understand how I teach some things and try to systematize it to move forward in terms of didactic but this is what I have done now to have the people with us that's right it didn't work, but now it's going to work with the 3D printer or even has a 3D scanner with the 3D printer let's see if it works even though it's in my family both my mother and my husband have already said that they can't handle two of me but the world needs two even in the past talking about Tia and Link I had the pleasure to participate in a bootcamp here at the University of Technology at Paraná you promoted here two days it was Alex Alex who came and I remember that I had just arrived in the United States I was a little upset but I didn't even think that you needed to support this was one of the times that I wasn't in Brazil because I couldn't do it so we prepared Alex to do the bootcamp it was very good taking advantage of the fact that I'm seeing him with the camera open we also we don't shine alone we are women entrepreneurs we need this word but I'm just talking about the example but we need support and we need good people this week was Tuesday and I invited Curtin to talk a little about his trajectory and in the course of the post graduation of PUC the blockchain that I talked about for you I received yesterday night I had class today so the people are eager for information and they are amazed with people who are already in this ecosystem who are already working so it's very good what you do in Dai and Solange which is to disseminate knowledge it's very important to consume the chai link here in Curitiba I remembered now of a thing in 2019 I made an event here in Curitiba Curtin was here too Dai and we hadn't met yet Dai went to Fai and then you were all here who I was in Europe friend I was doctorated in 2019 who joined me at the time was Cole Amorim and then he brought all of you it was the same Blockchain Connect Blockchain Week and then you were here it was very cool so we think we have to repeat I'm very barbaric in the sense that Curitiba is current of this kind of event and I'll see if I can do something here with the people who are moving here there are also a lot of people who are from the event area who can make an ecosystem for us we act more well, before that since we have the same the same insight that is to disseminate information and learn what are our next steps for now the end of the first semester second semester 2024 and future dreams it was a first short break then we'll talk about the long break and finish it and leave a taste that I want more Dai, push for us I want to organize my head in this moment of transformation I'm I think I already said I think the doctorate the doctorate in the past was a mark for me because it was the moment I had to deal with the question of what I want to do from the point of view I love direct distribution I follow I have an event here and I try to look at these technological innovations in the system in the systematization of the direct distribution then look at the international how it is being implemented in Brazil now at the time of the distribution reform I have looked a lot and I have brought a lot of debate that I have brought to the doctorate and that is precisely we look at the response point on the platforms that it is an international antenna and when we look at web3 or when we look at those terms of use of some platforms to understand how this can be done how this can not be done what are the limits, practicality there are many challenges here so I follow, obviously, looking at this new economy looking at the current system understanding the trends but at the same time I give this movement today to look and to take and develop projects of a real economy and some aspects you have a interference of SG of very strong sustainability this is coming a lot the regulation in Brazil this year a lot of budget carbon market in our system carbon market looking at the European Union the reports that are also being structured at the international level of standards standards are already so different in California different from the European Union how it is coming to Brazil how to talk to people who are also in front of this it is a point that I think is my focus today if I could say it is obvious to continue bringing what I studied and trying to disseminate this now and then there is another spoiler I have to move half of the doctorate to publish this book looking at all this debate international limits the responsibility of the Brazilian system I even made an article now that will come out I think I want to bring the book that will bring more robustness second edition I think it is important to form these new professionals help them also walk bring a look of guide this is my look my walk many biographies can also be explored I think our goal is to facilitate the journey and it is my personal journey that this journey of developing new things of realizing this and also wanting to give this more concrete contribution so I think that today if I could systematize this is what I have focused on with new projects very interesting and I even forgot to comment I said that I consume you in a good way I am a fan and consume what you produce in the morning I always receive that is the time of reading the updates the time that I wake up thinking that I should not have slept because a lot of things happened I receive a message from a group that gives and sends and this group was created because Daira launched a course it was very cool talk a little about it and talk a little if we will have other editions I actually did a test I really did an MVP as we speak in the right language I started to realize the difficulty with the basic things obviously looking at the audience the public, the legal audience the human rights audience the difficulty of understanding terms as cryptos, cryptos tokenization DLT, blockchain Tiriti Talks Tiriti Talks all these direct soups that for us who are here normally the people here are here super ok, ok, normal but we are in a bubble from the point of view of understanding I did a masterclass which was a two-hour class in which I would bring this turn of the key people understand what we are talking about a change of economic infrastructure that has repercussions from a social point of view and explaining the concepts within this larger context trying to bring is to demystify all these terms these homenclatures of support and so it was super cool there were so many people I didn't push I didn't do anything let me see so in front of this I am responding I want to finalize this ebook that I want very soon I think the next few months I will be launching the ebook for those who want to consume it eventually I am thinking I don't know but the ebook yes and I am structuring a course of basic training for those who I am a lawyer I want to have a notion of the various habits of the right-wing because one thing I always say Adry, as we are talking about a change of infrastructure all the environments all the habits of the right all the edges of the right if you are if you are in the right civil if you are in the right business if you are in the right environmental agrarium everything is being impacted by our technology to understand how this will repercute in your area of training is super important for those it is a basic training course so I am structuring I think this is the second semester because I think the first semester will not be round so I also want to make this understand a little there in Europe as I am already in the class I also want to understand the demand and bring this summary to us understand what is there what I learned, what are the difficulties because the course is very big and also try to bring a way with this learning what we are learning I think it's cool, I will learn I will understand the demand I will adapt to here bringing this this exchange that I think is super so that's it I speak and I like this humility that we learn every day we learn every day every second and that's what moves us well, for those who lost so the last masterclass was very cool because I participated I have an ebook just to put it on the contrary so don't miss a new edition because if the past was good, imagine the next who wants to enter in my community that for now it is open so all I think is a nice news connected, I make a comment connected, people are there in my link of my Instagram build to share the advantage just speak to us your next future and we and also I need questions look how cool Daniela Barosa is on our live and asked for a space to speak at the end very good I think I already talked a little about what is happening I have bootcamp starting next week I will put the link here in the chat for you and because our focus are developers I usually say who knows how to copy and paste can make bootcamp this idea even not being a developer obviously at the end if you try to change something in the contracts it may not work in a practical way creating smart contracts interacting with a wallet that is on the browser so all this you can do yes I remember that last bootcamp I had restaurant owner I had dentist other people who were there in the area so I recommend there for you so that's it, next two weeks starts on Monday I have bootcamp in Portuguese in Spanish and as I said, I'm not giving all the classes but even so I think I'm giving I did everything in 6 languages it was about 30 classes I think I did all 10 but still I commented with you my plans are basically to continue doing what I am doing today which is to travel the world to go to the best to the biggest blockchain conferences and be on stage doing workshops teaching developers and put all this knowledge in the world and so right after the bootcamp there is an event in Dubai I am a palestrant in Dubai and I commented there I go to Sydney there is a big city in Sydney and after Sydney I spend a week here in Sao Paulo I already know there are events in Berlin and there is a lot of things happening in Europe there will be Berlin, Belgrade, Amsterdam there are not many events that will happen there so basically that's it that's what I did the last two years certainly what I'm going to do this year is what I like to do which is exactly to participate in these events then the people were talking like this for example I founded the Etion Rio in 2022 I don't do more the following year we founded the Etion Samba even though I gave the name to Etion Brasil ended up on a path that wasn't the path I expected regarding the community education and then other people from the community we founded the Etion Samba which is a group related to the community and and that's it that's what we just did our event the way we expect it to be an event with a lot of education a hackathon, creation of new projects with sponsors who come here to invest in Brazil and see our developers that's my goal of what I want to do for Brazil, how to improve Brazil and the rest of the time so that's it I'll spend a lot of time outside I'm sure there will be one of the big events that we have which is the ICC that usually happens in Paris this year it will be in Brussels I'll be there I commented on the second semester of Asia because the DEVICON which is a big conference the biggest conference of Ethereum which is happening today I was closer to the Hyperledger but that's it I couldn't do everything I tried and I started but I gave a lot of classes even from Hyperledger in the past for the blockchain academy now I'm more focused on public blockchains but the Bezu or Bezu as you want to call it Hyperledger which ends up using because it is we say client of Ethereum so it is one of computer problems that you can run which is based on the Hyperledger structure but it can also communicate with the Ethereum networks and the people talking here about the working market for the programmer excellent, we always need new people and I'm sure that if you start and show your work and show what you are doing it will be a quick and easy job and the people like Marlise who is asking how to start I have to start with my bootcamp I'm not going to start in a different way go there, it's two weeks two hours a day after you've worked for two weeks it's my recommendation for you now for people who are asking Regarding the programmers Solange is the best person to answer and Marlise also is a system analyst so Solange also gave the answer to participate in the bootcamp well our conversation here is very nice so Solange only reflects what you do lectures how many roses in the world? five? let's go 2022 Google does the track I leave Google Maps does the track of my roses 2022 he told me it was the equivalent of four laps last year I thought I wanted to travel less but at the end of the year he told me he gave me five laps let's see what will happen but that's it I've traveled a lot and I want to have more my goal is to be an international reference to really be an educator one thing you commented before I really like teaching and I ended up improving a lot the data creating some techniques some things and I'm even teaching how to do this putting this in a way that other people can understand what I'm doing and do in the same way so we have more people teaching in the same way and bringing more people to blockchain, to web3 all systems will depend on this in the future, just like today we use the internet and nobody understands you don't understand what the internet is you're there, you're using it, you know it's good the same thing has to happen with blockchain I agree even to help Carlos who we're interested in on the 28th of 2002 there was a Meetup in which we talked about the work market in blockchain so there's the link in our chat so let's watch to see there's also a lot of cool tips from the data participants well DAI DAI has her motto always ready to travel and she has a necessary ready, right? it's true, I love to travel look I'm waiting for you Solange I also arrive the right is not so pop but we have hope soon we'll be there because the right is behind technology technology is already more advanced so hope that soon the right also begins to be requested and can travel I see that I will have to learn other languages, Mandarin not in the compromise I'll do this publicly it won't happen Italian also speaks so we will be now that's it I love to travel I really love it here in Brazil I have invested a lot I haven't given any return to the world yet but we are with this pretension now Solange she is our spy so let's go Solange let's see if I arrive one day a few years ago some votes to the world but I already started so what do you think? who knows? I have to take a few tips for you to spend a little so I also like to travel I want to take Osmose the quality of traveling because I like to travel but traveling work is a pleasant new well girls we I think we already explored a lot of what we wanted to talk about in homage to our month and I want to leave for you the final considerations what you want to do with the invitation and tell me honestly what you expect Solange just said those who use the internet don't know how it works but they know it's good I also think that it's a way around it's kind of hard to say that but it's a way around and we are sure the few will put the knowledge of our life through study through a lot of effort and as a consequence for humanity the blockchain will be being of great value Solange we had Daniela who wanted to talk about let's leave her let me call Josélia here Josélia yes I'm here you invite Daniela for us please she is already well welcome Daniela good afternoon thank you very much Diana and Adriana and Solange it's a pleasure I am Portuguese I'm not Brazilian but I have the opportunity to hear the Brazilians the Portuguese already talking about the blockchain and it's very rare that it's not just about men and this time to hear you talk about your experiences about the work you do makes me very happy because the voice of women needs to be in the whole world we had to talk more we started technologists in the ecosystem of blockchain it's fantastic to participate I can't wait to go to Brazil hopefully soon I'll be there as well and we'll get a chance to meet but thank you for sharing your stories and your stories your experiences with the blockchain in many ways hopefully it inspires other women to come forward as well and get involved as technical leaders because that is so important if we are truly using blockchain to create better opportunities it has to be done by all diverse type of engineers and developers so it's been really fantastic to listen to everyone today I always work at Hyperledger Meetup in Brazil Thank you, Daniela Daniela, thank you for being here so I believe we had a great opportunity Daniela, thank you and you will be very welcome here in Brazil to meet our work here as well and thank you for the opportunity to be part of the community now you were talking about the trip I'll go to Paris for Paris Blockchain Week after Paris Blockchain Week I'll be in Frankfurt Crypto Assets at the Frankfurt Business School and then I'll go to Dubai for the token 2049 we'll be there you'll be there yes, we'll be there and we are now doing last week in London I spent a while with Sergey to talk about how we can work more than Chainlink I send an email so we can meet in person very good, it will be a pleasure great so we are here today Josélio wants to give some final considerations Dain, Solange Daniela also wants to well, I'll do my considerations to open up to you I thank you very much Solange for your time Dain, thank you very much for your time Daniela, it's a pleasure to see you because I've seen a lot of your name written, but I've never seen your face, it was a pleasure and Josélio, thank you for the invitation for accepting us and welcoming us well, I just wanted to leave a message that I think there are some women that we are opening not only streets but also long streets for all the others so I hope you continue to inspire us and that each time we have more women here with us in Love Chain I thank you I really appreciate this chat with the women that I admire that I follow and I think Solange said that we want more we want more women we want to have an incredible community of women changing and being as normal to have men as women working not to be something that today we are going to see that the number of women is smaller it will be something normal it will not be the street as many other professions we have already started to see some areas of the right we have this balance so what if it is for all the other areas that's it, I really appreciate this opportunity and it's getting normal last week in London it was me and Nadine we were in a panel and after the panel someone said, oh it's amazing it's just an all women panel and I didn't even think about it I had chosen the two people who thought I wanted to talk about the subject that we were going to have but then I finally said oh it's a women's panel no it's not, it was technologists talking about technology so now for us it's not normal it's what it is and this is the future it's normal it's normal to talk more about it exactly but here we have just to finish Flávia saying that she is giving us congratulations for the event and she has great interest in the subject so Flávia what you need can count on us I'm seeing the name of Lise Zanlut here on our panel Lise also does a lot a lot of activities in blockchain she works with events and the ecosystem more or less of our generation so there are a lot of women here in Brazil who also have a lot of space here there is a lot of history to tell so we are here Josélia I would like you to finish this please of course it's a great joy to be here with you we are also here with our friend co-leader co-share here in Brazil we are delighted with this event it was an event thought with a lot of affection I participated of the meetings, I participated in the conversations that Adriana had exchanging messages with Solange with Diana so this event has a whole story it was thought with affection what would be shared with those who could come Adriana led very well congratulations Adriana Adai because we are colleagues here in the Paraná lab Adai leads several research groups has a brilliant academic career a brilliant legal career we learn a lot with her it's a spectacular class Solange doesn't even talk we know her international history and we saw the presence of this charismatic presence of Daniela I would like to invite Kurtin Kurtin is a legend you know Kurtin of many groups many works Kurtin also has a very beautiful story and he is here helping us in the Brazil chapter with a lot of energy organizing things Kurtin could you give a little word would be very good if I won, if I won I would be rich I even opened the camera but I was quiet here first thousand forgiveness I got late I came at 8 here in Brasilevera crying here I know Solange for a long time we have some stories of life very interesting together and I want to tell you I just want to let you record that you have a person from the thousands that I know in the world who is proud of me as a human being but still as a professional is Solange Solange is the person who only she knows that she went to Taqui she was stolen professionally in the academy then she became a teacher of all of us I here as a chief scientist is our best developer a long time ago since 2018 maybe today is the personality that best represents us out there she has a fundamental role in one of the most fundamental companies of the blockchain ecosystem crypto my career in an international company today I bet on two Chenlink, our partner in Accentre and FireBlock, also Chenlink's partner and Solange every time I can in that rare moment she is here in Brasile I call her my dear friend Mr. Gheiros and her mother who is also a fantastic lady Solange's mother is also a developer of our family and again, see Solange where she is not find her here in Brasile just find her and we see each other almost once in Nunca, in Dervicon is very proud to know where she came to know where she went where she is a lot, a lot for you and my dear friend and my Portuguese almost the same, also a great pride that is leading our most representative foundation of the world so I think we should have as obligation in Hyperledia that we are going to do in blockchain yes, there is a whole panel only women, not only for the representation or for the equity that we owe we have the moral obligation of doing this but also because it is not a matter of number we have a lot of important people here in Brasile not only in the development area but also in the leadership research and leadership of the great Rades like Visa, MasterCare and HELLO the Superintendent of Innovation of HELLO that the doubt also a very representative person in this ecosystem just to clarify I am not the only old man here Alice is in this game since 2015 she is the day too she made the blockmaster here I wanted to process because I had a shirt called Blockmaster Fuller it is in tribute to the Blockmaster Fuller and she had an event called Blockmaster so there are also a lot of people of a lot of weight here thanks to everyone for the time of putting us here but it is super important every time we have women talking about development we help to reduce this gap and few of us know I am a technologist the industry of TI started with women all the programmers of this century were women who invented the cobalt who invented the base who made the first extremely important code in our life of programmers women without talking about the wing which is our voice of all of us so by women in technology by women with knowledge it is a way to inspire the women who are going to be leaders in this market thank you all I want to take the opportunity to start to continue this movement we are here with Alice Alice is very welcome today a friend of mine when he saw us said we will have a hyper woman hyper woman so we can have other problems and we will have others Adriana was saying that the people of the same community can take care of Alice to tell her story we have many other people in the ecosystem of Brazil who can tell their stories every time we promote this we are diminishing and making justice we hope you will be here with us as soon as possible in Brazil we are invited all the time and we are very happy if you can be here in person Karen and I were just speaking about that this week great so once again I would like to thank all of you who are here and this was eternal on our YouTube channel I put here in the chat the social networks of Brazil we have a lot of content in Portuguese quality content this community has been selling for many years many people are contributing and we have this recorded on the YouTube channel we have a playlist with these videos from Brazil from Portuguese sources so please share all of you are very welcome thank you all good night good night thank you good night congratulations congratulations I hope that went well I'm going to close it out and we'll talk more thank you very much David for your help if you can stop the recording here and you can close the session and finally I would like to thank you for the support and wish you a blessed