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The way you said it was kind of weird Seriously though, this has been It wasn't it didn't happen till later One of the the single best pieces of advice that I gave clients that were trying to lose weight Without putting them on diet restrictions right without saying hey, you have to do this or cut these cowards Just simply saying list. Here's here's one one rule I want you to live by for the next month and just see what happens is Don't eat in front of the television or your phone Like just just I'm distracted eating yeah, and it blew my mind how many people became so much more aware It's very similar to the advice that before Social media became so popular so that the advice we used to give where I tell someone just to track like just becoming aware Yeah, it automatically makes you start to make better decisions Because many times we're so unaware of what we're even doing and I think today's time We're distracted more than we've ever been so instead of giving a client these crazy restrictions and saying can't do this Can't do that or follow this meal plan just saying hey, let's first do this Let's cut out some of these bad habits that that don't allow you to be aware of your body's natural Signals that are trying to tell you So you have to actually visually watch the food go in to your mouth. I'll make a massive impact Yeah, I like to watch it when you eat it You know what really when they do studies on this they they find people Reduce their calories by 10 to 15 percent just by not being distracted. Yeah, just because they're and what it is Yeah, it's definitely awareness, but really what's the way it's they explain it is you get signals from You know hormones that your body releases like ghrelin and you know as your stomach stretches You get your brain will get signals But if you're focused on something else you doesn't register as quickly and you end up eating and some of my think About 10% more calories. What is that? Well if you eat 400 calories It's 40 more calories and you add it up throughout the day Yeah And if you always you 300 calories a day and if you always eat in front of the TV Which a lot of people or on front of your phone and I'm guilty. I'm by the way, I'm guilty of this Driving their car advice like this. I think what ends up happening is, you know, I see it in my own behaviors And I think okay. I'm a fitness professional. I'm aware of these things. Yep this I slip up on this So my clients have got to because they're not thinking about fitness like I'm thinking about it 24 7 And if this gets me caught up, you got to think the average person who's not thinking about fitness all day It's not their career This probably happens a lot. Yeah, you know, it's funny is now. I'm thinking back right my oldest son was he wasn't the best eater when he was a kid and You know in my culture like that's that's a bad that's bad That's not good, right? So you got to make sure he eats more right and when they would when my son would get fed by his grant He both either one of his grandma's What they would do to get him to eat more is they would distract him with television Mm-hmm, and then he'd watch the TV and then the spoon will go in front of his mouth And he just opened it and eat the food So it was like and I mean looking back now. It's clear what was happening is we were they were he was being Distracted so we could feed him it's funny that you just said that because What made like I told the guys today like oh, I have the fitness tip What made me think about this and why this was on my mind was exactly that I'm guilty of this so I'm guilty of Using the iPad to kind of distract Max to get him to like just sit still and eat and It's and I've used that as a tool so many times that so last night Katrina and I are like, oh the house like we've got a lot everything done. We're kind of relaxing We're all gonna have dinner together and you know instead of because what happens right now is we normally feed Max and then Katrina And I have our dinner afterwards By ourselves and instead we're like all let's have dinner as a family today And obviously for having dinner as a family There's no reason to have iPad on the table or anything like that And so it disrupted that normal pattern that we do with him and he wasn't having it And I was like, oh fuck look what I did. Yeah, you know I'm saying look at look at I just did is I've allowed us to make that a Kind of a ritual for when he's eating so he could sit down there and watch his cartoons and eat his food and Anybody that's done that with their kid They know that it's like nice because it gets them to settle down and sit still and they're not well So food manufacturers. I don't know whether they did this on purpose or you know, maybe on accident I don't know but they started to because remember TV didn't exist Up until well widespread up until probably what the 60s and 70s Doug When do you think TV started becoming kind of commonplace in American homes, which you say it's probably the 70s and 60s? When did you stop listening to the radio for your entertainment? You got to remember I grew up with no TV. Oh, that's I'm the wrong person to ask I mean, I think the TV first came out in the 50s It did but it really didn't become commonplace like 70s Like yeah, when was it when was it because like now the average home has like 2.3 or so There's like there's more televisions than children in homes, right? That's the maybe you could look that I'm gonna look this up because I don't know the answer. Yeah, but I so what happened was TV became It was this new thing, right? It's like, oh my gosh You got movies in your in your house and then there's all this broadcasting. What's going on? And they started to design and create foods TV dinners TV dinners became a thing. You remember that, right? They don't really make those a man and all that kind of stuff. They don't really go ahead Doug and the TV trays Yeah, so it was only around 9% of Americans owned TVs in the 1950s But by 1960 that figured figure had jumped to over 80% there you go And so and then you started some of the 80s that we said no 1960s 60s Yeah, and then today would be a neat stat to look up is what the average how many TVs are in the average American home now Like there's now it's not it went from very rare for someone to have it to most 80% of Americans have it to now Most people have multiple remember the okay. Do you remember that famous? Part of back to the future. Yeah when he goes back in time and he's in the 50s or late 50s And he goes oh, yeah, we have two TVs in the house and they're like get out here. Nobody's got to know is that rich No, is that rich right? Yeah. Yeah, the average is 2.5 TVs per household Wow that while and and 31% have four or more. Yeah, so There's foods now that are created around that culture or have been for a long time So snack foods were big so think about this imagine if This was before TVs were invented right and so all meals were pretty much around a table with people How many snack foods would be consumed if that was the case right you get up and leave you I don't sit here And you bag of chips. I'm done eating let me get out of here Yeah, but if I'm watching this TV show, it's nice to snack or whatever was the microwave Did that come out like simultaneously with the television or was that like 70s TV dinner a little bit later? Because I know that that had a major impact as well in terms of you know just being able to heat something up Relatively what was the watch TV? Yeah, I mean obviously we don't remember from experience But have you guys seen at like what I wonder what the ads look like dug for a microwave? Yeah, microwave. I wonder how they how they pitched a nuclear technology or something. I bet they I bet it I bet they pitched it like you know supporting the the mom, you know, or yeah supporting the mom in the house So she doesn't have to spend save hours and hours in the kitchen or whatever So I looked this up a long time ago. The there were whole cookbooks when the microwave came out around So it's like this whole I cook a whole meal with the microwave and they taught you how to cook a steak in a microwave And obviously it's gross. I want to do that You had a microwave so I my grandmother came remember when I moved to the Bay Area wait, you mean like a raw steak? Yes. Yeah, okay potatoes every my girl only did the microwave. So yeah and TV dinner She had the little full now. So she's that generation right that actually watched the evolution of TV and the microwave So when I moved in with her, she was by the way She lived by herself for many many years like she had a very young age She was divorced and then basically and she was a two-job swing shift crazy work save all her money Didn't spend anything on herself live in this little condo two-bedroom apartment in San Jose I moved over here to when I originally thought I was gonna finish my degree in kines Moved in with her basically just to like focus and buckle down on school And this is how I fell into training. Well, she I mean I ate with her And so and I didn't know this until I moved in with her and everything was microwaved and like my grandmother Made me like Salisbury steak in fucking the microwave. Oh, dude. It was so bad, bro. So bad eggs You know cooked in there and she would do canned vegetables that have been in there for like months poured in a bowl Put in the microwave that was dinner. Oh, yeah So, you know, it's funny you can look at you can find still like that you can Oh my god, dude. It's pretty bad. Oh my god. So Doug, what are you pulling up here, Doug? Yeah, 1925 the first microwave was introduced for domestic use 1955 1955 but it became really more prevalent in the 1970s when the price went way down. Yeah Yeah, and I'm the nuke dinner. Yeah, and yeah, so what's gonna be like that today, right? That's why I knew it nuclear technology. I knew they would say some shit Hey, so what what's gonna be like that right now that like, you know only really wealthy people have or have in their house That's like technology that we're probably gonna evolve that everybody will have. What do you think that is? Well, right now. I can yeah 3d printers will be that that's a good call. Yeah, that's a good call But nobody has them yet Except the small ones for like little models. Yeah, I'm talking about the legit ones. Yeah. Yeah at some point That'll be that'll be revolutionary when you have 3d printers in every house. It's gonna be anything else you can think of That's like, but but really robot that washes the dishes I Mean it's coming that'll be probably right after the the moon trips that most the average people make so You know back in those days, okay So lots of new it's this is cool if you really want to research the the history of food in America And I did this only because the the correlation between the obesity epidemic It fits perfectly with the consumption of heavily processed foods But if you look at the food like the history of America when these new foods were introduced like spam and Processed foods. It was cool and there were entire cookbooks like Jell-O. Okay Jell-O was this massive thing When it got really popular and there were all these cookbooks and there were the weirdest like like Jell-O tuna Casseroles or Jell-O like beef dishes and and these and they were these cookbooks and people would put them together Because it was this new weird food. So let's go weird So bring it to like 3d printing don't you think that's gonna be similar to like how the 3d printing evolution is gonna be like Remember you talked about like soon people will be able to print their own shoes and yeah Like it's interesting to think about that in a culinary Well, so think of it like that, right? Everyone's gonna adopt it and it's gonna be so cool because you could print your own shoes And then we'll see the resurgence of like artists and people that can because it won't ever be able to produce What somebody with their hands can produce I look at it like how iTunes was developed because of all these apps and all these different like music genres and things and downloads so Obviously gonna be able to download somebody's creation like somebody's blueprint somebody's you know something to then just push a button And then it'll you know, it'll create a whole like market They'll create the market out of it in response to the fact that like like iTunes was created in response to Napster and dude Speaking of that No, I remember the shrimp with Jell-O like what a horrible It's so it's so fascinating if you look at the history of food and processed food in America Yeah, it is so it will come there were entire cookbooks that were taken seriously based off of hot dogs Spam yeah, like weird shit microwave like an entire meal microwave your turkey for Thanksgiving Like you would find cookbooks on that kind of spaghettios with with hot dog like there was like this whole recipe behind it So we are Adam, so I know I wanted I wanted to look this up I want to show you guys because I read this article And maybe Doug can help me out or Andrew would notice did you guys hear about the rapper who sold a million copies for $1 in FD. Yeah. Yes. Did you hear about this? I did think about how fascinating that I think it was like in like 30 seconds Like he broke all these crazy so what he did was he made his song an NFT just loses just one song You are one album. I think it was an album for a dollar. I'll try to see if maybe Doug can get it before me I think Tori Lannis says he sold 1 million copies of his NFT album in under one minute What and under one because of the NFT hype though, it's not because of his music Yeah, but think about that for a second doctor, but okay, so if I understand correctly and maybe Doug can read through it Why we're talking about it is What makes that really cool is if you did that and you're somebody who bought it for $1 and you have that album and Anybody else wants to listen to it and they want to buy it for they'll buy it for because he's only selling so many That's what I think I think there's got to be some sort of otherwise What's the point of selling the NFT like that, right? There's got to be some scarcity around it and think about how smart that is for like an up-and-coming rapper You have like this guy guarantee this guy You guys don't even know who he is but yet he's got a million people that support him at least right because he sold a million $1 so every transaction of somebody who buys it then goes and passes it on sells it He gets a kickback on one of those transactions. Yes, so technically he probably didn't sell that many copies It's just that you know the the no, no, he did sell a million Million yeah a million units for $1, but now those people I believe can take that and sell it for $2 $4 $5 he's still getting that in perpetuity. Yes. Yeah And it's smart because basically what you're doing is you're allowing your your cult of people that believe in you and your music And what you're doing and believe all this is the next this is the next to park or this is the next big guy How I found him for artists to finally get like that's that's most the money That's okay. Okay. Think of all the companies that are gonna go. They're gonna be gone. Yeah We talked about this before ticket master Right stub home ticket master fucked fucked because if I want to buy if I want to get scalp some tickets or buy Whatever now they're gonna love selling their tickets because now they get a piece on every other sale I didn't know this before by the way I thought I didn't understand NFTs Yeah, but now it makes sense if I sell them for $10 and then you buy it for 10 bucks and you want to sell for 20 bucks I can attach an automatic commission to that blockchain code or whatever so every time it gets sold I get 10% yeah, and it could get sold a million times I'll get 10% every single time yeah, and it eliminates so many middlemen and so decentralized What a disrupting and I had no idea like I thought and if you like a like all I thought it was art I'm like here. Yeah snap it take a screenshot and you're done And it's interesting because like you could actually consume the album and like like it or whatever But then decide to sell it and even make a profit if it's if it's something that's of value for somebody Well, yeah, especially I mean just like the easiest way I think to think of something like that is like imagine if You were you knew about Tupac before most everybody else did you were you were the one of the First million okay of the probably tens or hundreds of millions of people who know who Tupac is and how amazing he was and you catch him on the way up and you have the opportunity to buy one of his first albums and have as an NFT so you own the the rights to that one that one and you have and you could do it for a dollar and you One you know this guy's so hot that I can easily flip and sell this tomorrow for more money Or I can hang on to this and maybe ten years from now when he is the next Tupac and everyone's like oh shit You have one of the one of one million of I got some you think that this might just be because it's the very first because Historically, this is the very first person to do it. Yeah, of course You know, I don't know how many people are gonna have that kind of success. I just I just thought of something That's a fair thought it is and I just thought of something very interesting You own a collector car a classic collector car, right? Six you don't mind if I say it's a 68. Yeah Camaro Super Sport great beautiful car. It's gonna always gonna go up in value What if you attached to that car in NFT? Let's say you you set it up so that you can't start the car unless you own the NFT now How much let's let's just let's say that car right now is valued at $70,000 on the market and you decide I'm gonna sell it for $50,000 except it comes with this NFT Which means I'll get the 50 but I'll get the 10% of whatever Anybody ever sells in the future. So now you've attached yourself to that car in the future And you can undercut the the value the price because you're counting on the fact that people are gonna buy it That's how I see it happen That's why even though you guys are saying that like okay the novelty this guy's the first one to do it But what's to stop somebody who's like JZ who's who his albums are already worth X and to do it for so cheap Right that people know on the resell market. They could sell I mean didn't Dr. Drey remember how he was putting his album together never released it if he like like released the unreleased Content that he has. Yeah, that'd be huge. Did you ever find the article? Did you read on it Doug at all? Yeah, I mean, I'm not getting a lot of really good information on this apparently he sold a Million of these in less than one minute Yeah, and then he did a secondary release apparently and sold a bunch more got sold out Did he go up in price already? Well right now. He says the lowest copy right now is going for $30,000 So crazy man, what well, this is a whole new market just emerged it is but a lot of it's gonna get washed Oh, yeah, I mean this is it's gotta it's gotta correct itself and become what it's gonna be right But what it's a gold rush, right? It's like the whole it's wild how much hype is around I so I don't know if there's ever been a time in history at least in my short 40 years Where I have seen a new technology or a new thing be so heavily Marketed and spoken about like cryptocurrency and NFTs. Yeah, really. You don't think cell phones did that no what no Bro, we went from no one having cell phones to everyone having cell phones Yeah over a period of a decade that like literally overnight you have see like tell me if you guys are like okay Just a year ago. Okay of surfing around on YouTube I you may not have seen hardly any now almost every ad I get is crypto related or NFT related Yeah, I think I'm inundated. You know crypto has been around for a lot longer than the last year I was so I belonged to a lot of these kind of free market economic groups. I was introduced to Bitcoin This is a true story and it's depressing I was introduced to Bitcoin When it first came out because it came out to these and there was the free market decentralized like pro libertarian groups That we're talking about it early on I didn't understand it Okay, I swore I could have bought and I was this close I was this close to buying a thousand dollars with the Bitcoin Which would probably be worth a billion dollars today And I almost and I didn't do it because it was complicated and at the time they weren't like the coin base didn't exist I had to buy like a different thing and have a wallet and I'm like what is a wallet What do you mean? It's on the computer and I didn't do it and I had a client who was like Sal You got to buy this you got to do this and he was good friend of myself talk to him I was like, ah, you know, it doesn't make sense. You know, I don't think I want to do it or whatever Do you know if he did it? I'm sure he did. Oh, wow. I'm sure he did So, I mean you're trying to use the say that cell phones are like this like I don't remember getting that much information about so everywhere I looked like I feel like that's ever everybody's talking about crypto Everybody's talking about NFTs everywhere. I go on social platforms youtube anywhere I at billboards now commercials on the radio like I don't think I can get a day that I can go by and not Every one of those hit me with a advertisement for crypto or NFTs. You know what it is It's weird is that the the cycle of new disrupting technologies and how fast they get adopted is getting faster And faster it's so weird That like the iPhone how long has the iPhone been around right now you have technology that comes out and it's obsolete in a year It's really really strange. So I mean I get what you're saying. It's like two years ago We didn't know what the hell that was and now all of a sudden It's everywhere. Yeah, yeah people the whole nft thing is really Got hyped up because of facebook changing the name to meta. I feel like that was like a big catapult for Well, I think it definitely it definitely made all the things that were connected surge because something something as big And as powerful as facebook that literally facebook actually has the resources and money to go out and go fucking build this virtual world So when you see a company like that and then of course everybody following suit nike adidas You know all of them disney all following suit is only driving up the hype even more It's like holy shit. These are massive established companies. So the best What did elan must just say about the metaverse? He said such shit about it What was his so i'm with them on this thing because when yeah when I see like Uh, and does that does that mean that I don't think it's this no, I don't think that I just think that There's so much hype around this and there's definitely kids Okay, I have friends grown-ass men that spend hours of their time on a pretty regular basis In the virtual games and these virtual games have just become more and more interactive and to me It's the this is just the next step to that So it's very believable that there's going to be a large portion full-on immersion It's like kind of like half immersion now It's full. You know what I like about elan musk is he talks like a kid on reddit like the way he talks Like this is what he says elan musk says the metaverse sucks. He says sure you can put a tv on your nose But that doesn't put you in the metaverse So he's saying oh, this was the interview on the babel on b. I want to I want to read Yeah, I've seen And he says he says no you could put a tv on your nose. It's not the metaverse and he says that his Neural link. Yeah, that's why he's talking shit because you know he wants to put you in there Yeah, he wants to put you inside the metaverse like he's literally he's working on the processing power Well, yeah, he's machine and brain together He's talking shit because this all you're doing is putting like he said a tv on your nose Or creating the the illusion that you're in this place where he's like wanting to link to your brain So you're like you're fucking there So you're literally in there That's a big step. Yeah, well his his whole argument was always like it's gonna happen So I want to make sure that I do it first So that it well, I tell you what when he said that when he made that That metaphor of like that we're already There with the the phone. Yeah, yes. It's an appendage already. I mean that really kind of What he said I thought fuck you are so right Like and and it's just the natural progression to how do we how do we make that faster if it wasn't like Imagine just the type of just imagine when you're okay We all we're all we've all been around long enough now that when we were in school Like how frustrating it was when you had to go you had to go research something like I had to go to the library I had to go look it all up Do a decimal system I mean it was just it was it was a daunting task where It's so wild to me that this kid the kids today like you want to learn something right now You literally could type that specific thing and get like extreme you need to type you just ask siri or you know And so that's like so that's what you're looting to right now is my exactly my point It started off with like holy crap. You could type it in And like instantly the mission then it came then shortly after you could just say it and now soon You'll just have to think it. Yeah, soon. You'll just have to think that's the ultimate step And then it's so that's so I think that's when we're gonna turn into like a hive mind And it'll be weird because if we don't read each other's minds if we can all which is I can't imagine how dangerous that's gonna be. I think we really want to read everybody I think we're gonna be a bunch of assholes. Yeah, we're supposed to be a fucking self-indulged wieners I think they were so smart because we do have all the access to the answer We're gonna be we're gonna be so we are gonna get killed by already don't like us. I don't like us 10 years from now No, no, no, listen just because you know stuff doesn't make you wise. In fact, I think the unplugged will be out there tripping you Listen, listen, oh, I know this here's my evidence Here's my evidence cool when I was growing up. There was no community of flat earthers. It did not exist Didn't exist. They're they're around today We have more access to information than ever in human history and there are millions of people Was it Galileo's day where he had the flat earthers and he was talking about the Yeah, it's earth being rounded. That was radical. It's not like you're wise So my fear is we're gonna connect to this like super internet and with each other and have all the information in the world And it's gonna turn us into narcissistic Like it's like a bunch of teenagers like you know in a teenager Finally get some freedom. They do a bunch of stupid stuff because they have no wisdom So they're just like, oh, yeah, that's you know, I can do that and no, I can't even my preteen son Like I call him tweening out all the time because he just like decides to Like interject and and and have these like really confident answers and I'm like, dude, you're totally wrong Where are you coming up with this google? It's just like I'm right and then we'll like walk off. I'm like, you're so confident and so wrong at the same time Yeah, dude, this was just mind boggling. So that's what I feel like it's gonna be You're gonna get these people that if all you have to do is think and you get the google search right away Like yeah, you're gonna the arguments are gonna be awful to be around You're gonna have people that we'll all think the same like like a like a hive mind everybody must go everybody must Yeah, well, I just like the innocent moments still though speaking of my kids like I was talking to Everett before putting him to sleep last night And uh, we're having kind of a funny conversation about Ethan and how and he's like I'm convinced He's going through puberty dad Like oh really he's like he's like because he's so lazy and moody So Everett says that about Ethan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. He says that he says I'll be when I'm a teenager I'm gonna be lazy like that too probably I'm like, oh, no, no, no, let's set yourself up for that Bro, that's like your youngest is speculating on the older one to have going through puberty. Yeah, that's hilarious Yeah, and he's like he's like, yeah, he's gonna get hair. He's gonna stink a little bit I'm like, well, wow. I was like, what else do you know about this? You know, I was like curious I've never talked to him about it, you know Ethan must be like, you know relaying some information or whatever, but and I was like, what else do you know? and uh, so he's like Thinks about it for a second and he's like well You transition to your ultimate form I was like That's the craziest way describing that I've ever heard did you break it to him like uh No It's actually a horrible process, but you know, we'll get there. Yeah, it's way harder. You know, you know, it's an interesting You know, it's an interesting relationship is I don't know if you've noticed this But you have two kids that are relatively close and aging close. So my two older kids are like that, right? But my son, you know, he's 16 now. He's like fully like in the teen years And now there's a little bit of a division between him and his sister and his sister She told me so the other day they got a big old argument And they were kind of you know, brother and sister fight or whatever And I had to have a talk with my son and then I brought my daughter down and I talked to her about it And she just and I think she you know, she didn't realize that she was gonna tell me her true feelings And she's like he just never around. He doesn't want to hang out with anymore with me anymore. She's upset about Yeah, and I'm like, oh, you know, I can see because you know, he's 16. Like you want to hang out with this Yeah, no, you're in high school. You don't want to hang out with your old friend now or no Yeah, so you know, it's funny. He's gone more often. Have you ever heard my sister talk about our relationship in high school? It's so funny because so we're We're a year apart, but then we're two years in school And this happened to us and I'm sure she'll tell show you she's gonna hear this and she always calls me out Like your your version is so different than my version, right? But I believe that was a lot of that I went to high school We were like inseparable as kids we played we did everything together growing up And we were in the same k through 8th school. So we were always around then you went to high school shoes in junior high That's right. We went to high and then that was for two years So two years and I I wanted my friend and when she got to high school She really was attracted to a different group of friends and I was like the opposite I was jocks and Athletes and stuff like that and she was more to like skateboarding kids and like goth in that kind of direction Like we were total opposites of our And so we just didn't hang and then that was like the beginning of our division with each other And we really didn't come full circle till later on in our 20s But I mean, you know, I'm sure if she presented it to you it would be whatever but I will say both those together Oh, yeah That's the common link I would say though that that probably played a big the biggest role was that I have two grades ahead and then When you get into high school, that's kind of when you really want to start to like I remember it with my younger sister Because I was really close with her and uh, you know Hug her and I loved her all the time Then I get you get older and it's not that you don't like your sibling You're just I'm with my friends and it's a little You're you're too young to hang out with this type of deal. So you kind of split up a little bit She was sad about it. I remember she'd be sad. Can I come probably crush you a little yeah Can I come hang out with you and I'd be like I don't mean my buddies are gonna do and I don't want my sister around or whatever And I tried incorporated sometimes But I was too protective to have around some of my dirtbag friends or whatever So I saw that so my daughter said that and I was like, I choked up a little bit Oh, you know my poor my little girl. She's losing her her best friend. You know stage, you know Yeah, but do you see that now or is that happening yet? We're a little bit. Yeah I mean, they're they're definitely they have their own set of friends and so they they kind of have Different things that we have to figure out like a like a division of time like if if you know One of them gets to go uh and stay with their friends or which one has to stay home And then we try to figure out what to do with that's fun for the the one that stays home and you know So it is a little bit more like a split uh in terms of like how we're trying to manage like You're not even there yet because when Ethan hits high school is when yeah, that's when it's gonna Even in the dust you got a couple more years and then you'll start to there's still buds and they hang out But yeah, it's it's starting. Yeah, you know, you know one of the ways you could separate generations I've I learned this we might have talked about this a long time ago, but there's a very clear way You can tell if somebody was born in the cell phone Generation or the like the phone generation that we grew up with So ask a kid you might want to try this with your sons Say hey pretend like you're talking on your phone. Oh the way they do this No, they were like this. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. This is how they talk on the phone whereas we do this Yeah, because we grew up with phones when they had a you know a receiver and a speaker and a Operator There's smoke signals What are you wearing? Carrier pigeons. Oh my god. You just reminded me. Yeah, bro. I gotta pull this up So drug smugglers are crazy with the shit that they do to get their drugs Across borders shut up. Do you some pigeons bro carrier pigeon? They found a carrier pigeon They with a little backpack had 178 ketamine pills in it What? So that that's it. That's in a movie That's I've seen that in a movie before because they're I can't remember But they could actually carry quite a bit away and you could train them to fly to certain places Well carrier pigeons were used not in john wick. Yeah, and they were used in war. I don't know what movie it's in You know that right in war carrier pigeons were used quite a bit before electronic technology They would communicate with each other with carrier pigeons And so there were literally soldiers who were dedicated and they had hawks that were dedicated to taking down Pigeons that were flying across those messages. Yeah, yeah to steal those messages and see what's going on I saw another one where they were open. They were literally they look like Not like two by fours, but they were slats of wood And they looked like wood like there was and the the the dea agents were showing how they were smuggling drugs and they Crack went open Open the wood and there's freaking drugs in the wood in the wood. Yes, dude Crazy how they come up with creative how they come up with some of this shit like up and That van we're like every panel and everything was just stuff Frigerators were popular and computers were popular, right? So you take a why because you could take like a like a you could do it depending on how much you're doing A mini fridge or a big fridge and you take the insert of the this is what I hear you take the insert So I've been told So you take you take the the inserts out on and behind there is like all this like foam stuff for the To keep the the temperature. Yeah, you pull all that out and you could put a lot of stuff in there A lot of stuff I hear like in that and then also like We don't have any computer towers, but computer towers are pretty big. Yeah And you normally fill them up with all the I don't know what the hell you call the I don't know. What do you call Doug? What do you call the thing? I don't know the kilo bags No, no, no, no drugs. Sorry. I don't need the drug The hard drive. Thank you. He knows the drugs I'm trying to help out Okay, no, no, no, no, this brings me back to my original theory with uh outdoor world and like Bass Pro shops, and you know, why do you think I'm right with you on that? So I'm like, dude, they they have such big things like a bass boat like kilos of cocaine Outdoor world that's still a drug stop it I don't know dude. It's gonna come out some day. You know, I actually we didn't get anybody who Normally always when we speculate on weird shit like that I get like at least a handful of DMs of somebody who has an intimate knowledge of that And I we didn't get anything about that and I'm still like there are some businesses that you Dude, okay, you know what doesn't make sense to me more than that way more than that You ever go to like a nice area and you see these little stores that sell like candles Well, yeah, okay, so you bullshit now my crystals and I you pay I know what the rent in Los Gatos is I had a business here. So I have how can you survive? I have a theory on that. Okay, you have a you think she's bored. There's a board I think I think you have a spouse city council who makes four or five million dollars a year And he can use every ride-off possible And so he gives a and it keeps her busy and happy or him Okay, if it's the rich woman and then the husband's decided to open a candle shop Even though you don't see a lot of that but maybe okay, so I'm being non-sexist here Okay, so they open up this store and they don't care if that fucking thing loses It doesn't matter gets to have their little boutique store downtown and do you imagine being like such a like such a dick Right, you come home and you're like honey, you know, I know it's Christmas. I just want you know, I know your dream You love You love making candles. So I just I got you a store dude mainstream on mainstream, babe Come on, dude, don't worry about oh, I'm not gonna make any one of these rich tech guys Dude, of course like that's probably something they consider maybe that's gotta be it because there's a bunch of them You go in I mean that's really the decoration They sell crystals candles and in cards and I know I mean the ones that last that's my theory because You do see that also and the next year it's a whole another store So sometimes it's somebody who's really ambitious thinks it's a good idea to rent for $10,000 a month in Los Gatos And it's you know their business makes a total of $10,000 in the year In they and then they are they're out after their lease But if it's someone who stays in there for years and years Yeah, I would speculate that they've Either that or they did a really which today you might see and I'm sure there's somebody out there that has done this You built a very solid, you know, direct-to-consumer brand And then you built a storefront like a couple minutes So you don't care that maybe you only made four grand in the store this this month and your rent's 10,000 That's okay. You made 30,000 online. I see so it's like a showroom, right? I see, you know, I never tell you guys about time I I my buddies bet me to go into a psych There was a psychic place on one of those main streets. Oh, you went in? Yeah, and they go go in like and so I went in and it's totally a dick I was such a stupid kid. I went in there and the lady's like, oh, you know, how can I help you? I'm like, you tell me You knew all the answers. Yeah, she's like, well, what's your name? I'm like, I don't know. What do you think? And I was such a dick, you know, I was like, get out. That's not how it works, you know Is that all that happened? You gotta give me so Oh, wow, you couldn't even get a reading, huh? No, that's not how it works. You need to get out I'll see you later. Give me the information so I can look up your mice. A lot of them have like Google like underneath the table that they're just like, you know, efficient for little things as you go That being said, dude, I had a really weird experience with it I had a client once that I trained and she was a very she was super smart Like high performing executive badass woman And so I like everything she said I took seriously, right? I trained her she's super fit whatever And for I don't remember what it for my birthday or something like that She bought me Like a free session with this woman who did this And it was my client and as a friend and I'm like, you know, guys, no, man I'm super skeptical of stuff. This is especially back then when I was even more skeptical than I am now And so I said, all right, I'll take it or whatever. Anyway, this lady Said the weirdest shit to me like stuff that I was like, I don't know how you know that or what yours Yeah, I'm not I wasn't I wasn't this is when I own my now that I've heard sometimes they get it like dead on dude My cousin his wife She had just broke I think she had just broken up with some guy or whatever and she her friends took her to one for fun And she said to her you're gonna go out. Uh, I don't remember in this month You're gonna go to a club. She's like, I never go to clubs But whatever and you're gonna meet your husband your future husband. She's like whatever she forgets all about it That month comes up her friends drag her to the club. She's like go to the club She runs into Now my cousin who she's married to and she runs into him and she flirts with them and they're married They have kids and everything and then she remembered and she tells the story all the time. Super weird. Yeah Super super. I went out with a girl one time who actually She recorded her session And what was weird about it was like she didn't present this to me till like the second or the third time that we had gone out And she let me listen to it and the fucking like medium or whatever you call them or with psychic Literally like like was talking about me and describing me like to what I did for a living So watch out when he's gonna dump you My features how you how she was going to meet me all this stuff. It was fucking weird, dude They're like, I felt I felt like man. I need to go out at least another time with this chick, you know But I it was really really now. What if just what if yeah, because you know, obviously not with this girl anymore Right, right. Okay. What if this girl was like super psycho? She meets you and then she's like, let's record this shit So I'm kind of convinced that now like later on right look inside on the back I'm like she was probably one of those crazy chicks that like you manufactured this already met me and everything like that And they're like, hey, you need to do this for me because like totally could Yeah, how am I gonna bag this guy at the end of the tape? It's like and he will get you pregnant And then your son will be the leader of the world He's gonna resist at first but persevere And you'll get so rich because of it. All right. All right. I'll do it. It was wild, dude It was definitely but you know, I later on I thought I think because she did seem a little off that thought Oh, you know what? Maybe she had her friend do that I'd say that was why I'd tell you what though for for any other crazy chicks looking for strategies That was a pretty good strategy. Yeah, it's pretty pretty unique. You know, that's the first time that ever happened to me Yeah, it's an interesting angle. I had I had a girl. This was a terrible story. I had a girl once this was a year I was a kid I was 18 and I dated this girl for like a short period of time and then I broke up with her and She she tells me that uh, oh, you know, I got I got pregnant This is after we broke up. So I'm like, oh my god. Are you kidding me? Like I'm stressed out. I'm 18 years old She's like, don't worry. I'm gonna go, you know, go to the clinic or whatever And I'm like, I already have the date schedule that's on this day and I'm like freaking out like, oh my god What am I gonna do? And then I looked at the day that she gave me she know blow jobs get people pregnant We just held hands No, we had standard intercourse She hey, don't make it out. You're still afraid. Yeah. Hey, she she fucked up She wasn't careful So she tells me the date and the place and it happened to be on a holiday And so I called her on I'm like, I don't they're not open on that day Let me go with you and then she gave up. She told me that she made it all up. I was like, oh my god Snake total snake lied about the whole thing. Yeah, that's a dirty. I mean, I was a kid I was 18 years old. Yeah, dude. Can you believe that's a professional move? She just played on Yeah, hey speaking of crazy stuff. You guys want to see the latest the latest like training jujitsu. What's that? Doug pull up, uh, the link that I gave you card jitsu. Okay, so That's a type of jujitsu. Yeah Now cars are getting into it. What's happening? No, it's it's really cool. So two jujitsu guys I watched one of these videos. I thought it was hilarious They're sitting teaching you how to like case someone attacks you. No, it's a tournament It actually shut up. It's like a real thing. It's a tournament. They're doing it inside the car Doug, is there a video we can watch? Bro, is this really a thing? Oh, there you go. So you have to sit in it Can you use a seatbelt? This is so let play this. I want to see this. So you sit in the car That's hilarious and you both put your seat belt on and then when the turn when the fight starts You take the seatbelt off and you go at it in the car Bro, this is hilarious. Who thought of this? I don't I don't know Yeah, full This was a whole tournament and these are two black belts like check it out. So Oh my god, seatbelt off and you have to fight in the car And submit each other. Tell me this is some brilliant like how though Like I know you guys would never watch a jujitsu tournament, but I bet you guys want to watch this That is hilarious. Isn't that great? I feel like this would be a good car commercial too Yeah, I bet there's like I bet there has to be like next move There's got to be history behind this right or there's got to be a reason why it evolved or happened and it makes sense right like to People get car jacked and like imagine someone gets in your car and like how to defend yourself from in this situation I mean, I guess I just think it's entertaining. I mean, why else if all the most random things are like let's do jujitsu Let's let's do it in our cars. Yeah, I think it's a lot. So jujitsu is interesting because there's there's a lot of uh, like stoner Influence in jujitsu. Yeah, so I feel like totally a stoner. I feel like this was a stoner idea big time Like hey, what if we what if we went at it great? I Would totally watch that right the bunnies sit around all high like yeah, I would totally watch there was a tournament a while ago Eddie Bravo put it together where they smoked weed before the match So they would they would smoke the weed. I think that would help I relax you a little bit. You know what's funny So this is why it's such a big deal a big thing in jujitsu the classic like the old school jujitsu people are like Like the Gracie family. There's so against it right drugs not good for you Then there's a new school where jujitsu is kind of like out of surf culture Where they smoke weed and they create new moves and some of them say it helps with their creativity So they did this whole tournament where they would smoke weed and then roll and I've talked to so I never done I never did this when I did jujitsu. I never did that But I have talked to guys and they say that oh, yeah, it's great You you you smoke weed and then you get you like you're better with your creativity and your flow On the ground, I mean, I feel like it's one of those sports where you know kind of being Like it's probably probably one of the biggest mistakes. I'm assuming I have no idea I've never done jujitsu, but I would think like a guy like me Who doesn't know better like probably the number one mistake I would probably make and most people like me would make is I would try and use my strength Yeah, I would tense up and I would try and like muscle everything where that's one of those sports of you You're using their force and counter and so kind of relaxing in in a very tense I guess situation gotta be like a threshold to that though, too If you go too much weed, right and you get paranoid, there's always too much choked out That sounds horrible or so if you guys have never done it before or grappled that way like if there's a like a big Like you're a big dude, Justin. So if you go in a tournament, you're going against the guy That's your size. Yeah, and you got a big guy Who's you know holding it down inside mount or north south so north south is literally a lot of physicality North south's like this, right? So his head is facing your crotch your head's facing Yeah, okay kind of like that, but anyway, it's not that but his Hey, you want to do some north south north south maneuver And so his like his chest and like his belly will be like pressing on your face bro. Oh my god, so you would be Again, yeah, there's there's like kind of like that balance of being relaxed, but I could get paranoid pretty quickly Hey, you got to go check out Live on labs they make supplements, right vitamins and minerals that your body actually absorbs They actually use a technology that was created by and for pharmaceutical companies Now one of my favorite products from live on is their glutathione Glutathione when you take it orally normally doesn't get absorbed very well But if you get it through their way of delivery through liposomal technology It actually raises glutathione levels in your body. So it's great for the immune system It really helps with any respiratory illness It helps improve the pump recovery and by the way, they have other supplements and vitamins and minerals as well So you got to go check them out head over to liveonlabs.com. That's l i v o n l a b s dot com forward slash mind pump And if you buy any product on there, you'll get a sample pack of all six of their other supplements for free All right, here comes the rest of the show Our first caller is lauren from new jersey lauren. How's it going? How's it going? Hey guys, how are you? Good? What's happening? Good? What an honor it is uh to be here with you today. This is uh totally inspiring for me. Oh, thank you. All right So I kind of have to a two-part question. Um First part is I'm actually just finishing up max split Um, by the way, I loved it. I totally appreciate Um, the effort you guys put in sequencing the exercise. I had done splits before Um, I had never done anything like this that had such You know precise phasing Um, I love the process of it too. So that was awesome And you know following through with the step counts in each phase and then getting progressively bigger each time Um, I'm not going to lie toward the end Um, it was a real challenge to complete it But I'm proud to say that I completed every workout. Um, I hit every step count and um, I'm feeling really good I'm just wondering where to go from here. So That I am someone who normally works out seven days a week. I have a tendency to over train and over do it But after doing your program is the most comprehensive program I've ever done Um, I'm just not sure where to go from here. Certainly. Um, I upped my activity level with it. Um Toward the end and I know that for me that that's not going to be sustainable long term And I had really good progress with strength gains So I'm kind of wondering, um, where do I go from here? I've heard you guys always preach That less is more, you know, training the three days a week full body I feel like that would be a lot less than what I'm coming from and I'm just Kind of concerned about losing strength and losing progress Okay, lauren now in your in your question that you sent in you also said you're recovering cardio addict and you Admittedly have a tendency to over train Which I would have guessed because the first program that you picked from us was map split I would have put you on you my I would put you on anabolic first Yeah, that's one of our highest volume like kind of bodybuilder style workout programs So do you want the advice that's the best for you or do you want the advice that you want to hear? I I know Um, I really I think I really need some tough love from you. Um To hear what you know to hear what what I need Um, you know to kind of move forward. All right. All right. Here's some tough love Okay, if you're gonna do what I tell you okay, if you're gonna do exactly what I tell you I want you to do math maps performance You've done map split It's time to move into a program that trains different planes of movement That works on mobility. Don't worry. You're gonna still get strong. You're still gonna build muscle Here's the best part you can do maps performance six or seven days a week So three days a week are the resistance training days. The other days are mobility sessions And if you like movement and and athleticism You'll love the mobility sessions. There's still somewhat of a workout. It's much less intense But they're gonna improve your mobility and your ability to just connect To different movement and they're gonna help facilitate recovery. I think that's going to be the best Next step because you just I mean map split is literally I mean one of our most advanced bodybuilder Volume based workout programs. So I'm not going to put you in another Program that's similar maps on a ball would be great too But I think because you just did split I think performance is going to benefit your body so much Um, and if you trust what I'm saying and you just do it and don't judge the process but trust the process You will be very very happy with the results you get from that program I'd like to I would have liked to have seen her do anabolic then performance But I'll I can I can concede to performance I mean, I think I think performance is going to tremendously benefit her But I think what would be best for her her body her personality type and the things that she tends to do Would be to get her out of that. Uh, you could make the argument that it's Going to be very difficult For her mentally to make that shift But personally, I would love to see anabolic then performance Then aesthetic and then work your way back to a strong or a split type of a routine that way I I I agree. I do like that that suggestion. Um, I think that that's probably the best but it will be mentally difficult again to to make that dramatic shift because you're going to be learning a lot of Moves and things that probably you're not very familiar with so, you know Stick with it and and stick to the program and plan as as much as possible and trust it It's going to be outside your comfort zone for sure and not that it's not going to be fun It's just, you know, look at it as a totally new thing that you're You're there to kind of educate your body and go through the process and the volume and mass performance is really appropriate It's not a super ridiculous high volume program It isn't but the mobility sessions are good and you know what you're buying I forgot to add this too because lauren wrote in her question and I read your question You didn't just go into map split from beginner. You were doing mike matthew's You know split routine before you went into that right? Yeah, so I I kind of first got into you know I first started kind of seeing the light of resistance training And started doing far less cardio a couple of years ago and I found mike matthew's thinner and thinner stronger I was doing his five-day split program, which was great and knowing my personality. I turned into a seven-day program And then at a certain point, I just frankly got a little bored And I and I stopped seeing progress and I was a little frustrated. So that's when I found maps Yeah And with with his pro because I know his program very well. Mike's a good friend of ours great guy Really smart guy in his program places a heavy emphasis on You know bench presses and rows and overhead presses. So that's why you went to perform Yeah, and then he's and then she went to split which is bodybuilding. It's also very sad. So I see where you're going with that Okay, I see where you're going that that takes it because you're she's gonna see a lot of She's gonna see some significant progress because of that where maybe she'd see a little less progress going to anabolic Because it's similar enough even though it's different. I totally need stimulus Um, but okay that being said then this is what I would love to see then I would love to see performance right now Then to anabolic and then when you go into anabolic, I would actually Use the mobility sessions from performance and add them to my trigger days So if you like if you like the you know, six-day seven-day routine and You and you want to do more I think you you can do more just more the right things for your body that you'll get the most bang for your buck And what that would look like for someone like you in my opinion would be The mobility sessions from performance and you can go ahead and add those into anabolic when you go into that So I go performance and then anabolic with a little little combination of the mobility And here's why you're lucky lauren because we recommended two programs now We're gonna give you two programs for free But I you know what I think we're I think we're underestimating how much she's gonna enjoy performance because she did marathons and triathlons Is that correct? She's gonna love the lunge matrix. Yeah, I I love the process and um, I'll tell you this I already have those programs. Um, I kind of went crazy during your black Friday Are you in the private forum because I would love to follow up. I'm not in the private forum Um, we'll do that. Let's put you in the forum for free. I just want to follow up on your progress I think actually because I know you do triathlons marathons. You like functional movement You like the sport aspect or that that aspect of training probably You're gonna love maps performance. It's gonna be a lot of fun Training in that way and then once you see how your body responds That's it. I think you're gonna be sold on training your body appropriately. So Let's do that. Let's put you in the forum tag us. Let us know what's going on Adam gave great advice maps performance to maps, uh, anabolic using the mobility sessions throughout both of them I think that's great Thank you. That's that's awesome and and I just want to reiterate again You know, I work in the fitness industry. I'm a GM of a fitness and wellness center You guys have inspired me so much Um, mainly you've really opened my eyes to a lot of the mobility stuff Um, I I had prime and I've you know, brought those skills Into the programming here by encouraging the staff to add more mobility more functional movement Especially into our group exercise program. We have a big Population of active seniors here and they're just loving it Um, I think the stuff that you guys say about making people feel good Um keeps them coming back and I I think that's what it's all about. So I just Really appreciate, you know, your knowledge your sharing of information and just the the inspiration you guys give every day I have a two hour commute each way to work and um, you're with me every every time You know what lauren now that I know that you you are you know manage a a fitness department I want you to start to treat yourself and train yourself like one of your clients because I guarantee If one of your clients came in and literally said exactly what you said to me On this podcast your advice would be very similar to mine. Am I am I wrong or am I right? It's so true. Um, you know, it's some you know, I I fall into the camp You know adherence is never my problem. I'm I'm like, you know, all or nothing You know kind of personality and I I tend to over train and push myself I would never tell a client that of course we we always train our clients better than ourselves So try and put yourself in those shoes and you're more likely to give yourself better advice Thanks for calling. Thank you lauren. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. No problem people don't realize that The vast majority of people in the fitness industry Have somewhat of a dysfunctional relationship when it comes to exercise They do a great job with their clients and they would give great advice to the clients But and by the way, this is so many trainers and coaches fall into this applies to me. Yeah, okay This I'm I'm talking to me one of us heroes. Yeah, it's it's so hard But I've had to do that myself like what would I tell my client to do? Oh, it's not what I'm doing now. So it's really really challenging when you're in that position So I know I know what she's what is that paradox that causes that dug That's like you see that even like with with therapists and people a lot of times doctors Yeah, they're they're talking to themselves. Yeah, right. We it's like they're they're preaching this message and they're really Communicating their own stuff. Oh, yeah, doctors and nurses are the worst patients I think a lot of professions are like that You see you see that even in like people that are like inspirational speakers and stuff like that Then they're all depressed at home and you know what it is I think what it is is The you know if I if I'm talking if someone's helping me with let's say a disordered eating The person who struggles with it Who makes this their passion and that's their expertise? Probably will understand how to communicate to me the best and do the best job I really I really believe that so I think that's probably part of it You know like I know how to talk to people with this kind of relationship with exercise because I live it I think more of it is you're working your own shit out I think subconsciously you know maybe what you're supposed to be doing for yourself. So you're you're comfortable with saying it You're relaying it. Yeah, you're not internalizing, right exactly But then you still struggle with taking your own advice about it But you but subconsciously you know better because you either have read or you've learned over time And so you do better with communicating it to others but then taking your own advice is one of the hardest things to do Our next caller is Justin from Tennessee Justin. What's happening man? How can we help you? Hey, how are you guys? Thanks for having me We just had a real quick question. I was listening to your recent podcast regarding how to maximize your 30-minute workout I've been doing go-rock events since 2019 and these events are some of the most difficult Endurance events out there. Some of these events 12 to 14 hours in duration Additionally, there's plenty of pt of miles while carrying a various amounts of weight So I have a kind of a two-part question One in your opinion could I still get the fitness level that I kind of need With the 30-minute time frame workout and still perform well And I guess really my main question is If you guys were going to train for one of these events, how would you approach it? Oh man? Man 30 minutes training and then your goal is these these events. Yeah, that's tough So you can get I mean you can get pretty far. Yeah, but I'm going to be honest with you You know what you'll get really good at the first 30 minutes of that You'll crush that opener It's going to be really tough because it's so different like what you need is a Specific type of endurance, you know 12 hours 24 hours build up that work capacity. Yeah Where you're just moving and and I would look here's how I would train for that I would do the occasional long Ruck as part of my training and then I would do a little bit of strength training And I do mobility work And but but I would definitely at least once a week I would do a long hike That would be a few hours and then maybe once a month a really long one To cut because you have to nothing's going to get you as prepared for what you're doing like training Like the competition itself. Well, what do you guys think about him using like the Work sessions and strong for his Strike training type of routine and then doing what you're saying is once a week or once every other week He does like a long old, you know, rough type of a run like the combination sounds good Yeah, it's about the same thing. I feel like that's the the direction I would go if I'm limited to my time of lifting during the week I only got 30 minutes I'd probably lean you towards the work sessions that we have especially since a lot of it has to do with like Carrying and stuff like that stuff. Well, maybe even then one or two of the actual like foundational workouts from strong You know during the week and then adding in just the work sessions were the main Focus and then having that. Yeah, I think I think that would all be valuable. Yeah, Justin. Do you have Would you be able to schedule like two long Hikes a month or is that not does that not work as well? Yeah, yeah, I could definitely do that. I've I've done multiple 12 mile go-rock events and I've I've done 150 miler and So, yeah, yeah, I can get I've got several days where I can put in Some a lot of miles. Yeah, I think if you did a couple of months that would make a dent That would definitely make a dent and improve your ability to do the competition and then the rest of the workouts You know, you could you could do the work sessions for a map strong or the foundational workouts For map strong. Well, now that I know that we're working with that Okay, so that also changes my advice a bit So if if I could get you to commit to me to to four days, you know So maybe they're a weekend day where this is going to be kind of our endurance training I'd have a a day where let's say I know I'm getting ready for an event Say, whatever the distance is 25 mile 50 mile 10 mile whatever, you know, the distance is I would then do four four four times four times in a month So one time a week and one time I would go quarter the distance one time I'd go half the distance one time I'd go three quarters distance one time I go full distance On what the main goal is does that make sense? So like if we were training for a go-rock event that The the miles is 25 miles I'd have one day a week where I'm doing a quarter of that one day a week. I'm doing half of that One day out of the week where I'm doing the three quarters and then one one in one whole week or a month One week one week one way. Yes. Yeah, I like that. I like that. So he's only one time a month Is he even doing anything close? Yeah, I like the full distance the other time He's doing three quarters the other time he's doing a half the other time He's doing a quarter of it and then his training during the week looks like strong work sessions Now can you describe? I mean at least for the audience too and I have somewhat of a semblance of what rucking is and entails But can you describe a little bit more about that? Like what kind of like backpack and what kind of weight load you're carrying around? Yeah, so typically, you know The pack that I use is from go-rock. I have a a 3.0 is I guess the name of that specific bag, but A backpack type of bag and then they've got sections in there where you can put weight in there So you're carrying Yeah, uh, and there's kind of two different sections of Events like you have one that you're just doing a lot of miles with your select team and then you're doing They have other ones where you're doing it as a large group, but it's over Yeah You really know what you're gonna be doing, but it could be over 12 to 48 hours depending on which one you want to do How much weights in in the bag? Yeah, yeah, so you'll have uh In your bag, you're gonna be carrying anywhere from probably 20 to 40 pounds plus whatever else they bring for you to carry around So you can carry That amount of weight up to you know 120 40 60 pounds depending not the whole time, but you're gonna be sharing that load with other people Okay, so so you actually share it with a do you also are you able to load it in the front too? Or is this always load in your back? Yeah, as long as you just carry it, I don't think they really buy on how you do it So, uh, sometimes I mean some people are carrying and sharing it just by carrying it in their hands Um, you know, they put it on top of their their their rough bags You know depending on what the object is you have to carry if it's a telephone pole or if it's a a large sandbag or Uh another person you know, um So yeah, just considering that all those different types of loading I would I would you know, definitely try and emulate that as much as possible, especially sandbags and You know front loaded carries versus, you know back loaded carries and incorporate that within your training too. Yeah No, yeah, I think what the advice adam gave was a great one. I mean you don't have to do long You know endurance type training often to gain the benefit I think the advice he gave was great and then the majority of training is around mobility strength You can do some high intensity interval training continue to build, you know, some of that stamina Um, and I think that should be that should be okay Yeah, yeah, because so kind of what I'm doing now is besides getting my miles in Buildwork also has like an srt program kind of like a sandbag training program where you're doing five workouts a week Where you're you're working out with Your rough bag and your and sandbags for what you have And so they have different workouts for you to do to kind of help prepare you for that So let me interrupt you there. That's cool. Okay, but I don't know what this program looks like So I'm going to be just you know kind of speaking out of my butt here But oftentimes when they when these organizations create these workout programs They overdo it and what I mean by they overdo it like, okay. Yes, it's important to train with your bag But if you want to gain strength from a lift, you're better off with a dumbbell or a barbell That doesn't mean you eliminate the bag You want to work with the bag with some of your training, but some people go too far And it's like all you know, all the training has to incorporate something from You know my particular sport and the programming sometimes off You know, so I would take some of that stuff and individualize it for yourself And don't throw out some of the traditional strength training You don't need to do much of it But don't throw that out because you'll gain a lot of benefit from that as well And if you don't have maps strong by the way, Justin, we'll send that to you. Okay Yeah, yeah, that's really what I wanted to hear if y'all thought that that would be good to supplement with with our work training Yeah, for sure. Yep. Okay. Thanks for calling in man. Yeah. Thank you very much. No problem Yeah, of all of the I don't know stamina endurance type sports This is the one I would I would be most likely to try I'm just interested because it's gaining a lot of popularity. It is and uh, yeah I think uh, I mean this was this was like a hunting thing, right? Because you had to carry I thought it was a military. Yeah, definitely military. That's where it came from But also I I've seen because in hunting you have to like carry in a tracks guys that are into hunting and so Yeah, my my my best friend's brother Um, when I first got in he was actually doing this a long time ago. I didn't know what the hell it was He'd like call he when I was already a trainer He'd call me up and ask me for advice on his training like yeah, I'm in to go ruck Adam. Do you want to ruck? Yeah, we have no idea what that is and then I remember him sending me over the challenges like oh shit This is intense dude. That's a lot So it's it's what would be hard with someone like this is what eliminated 30 minutes And the and you're training for like this super long-standing. Yeah for endurance That's rough, but if he if he could get if he could dedicate one day a week for me That he could go spend, you know an hour or two towards the endurance aspect of it I could do it. I could build it up like I was saying to be honest with you That's what I would do. Anyway, if I trained for something like this. It would be one day a week of Something specific right the rest of it would be more tailored around what I need You know with mobility and strength and then one day a week would be a really long You know simulated hike with with weight because honestly doing it more than that or too often might even be too much Yeah, they're just breaking down all the time. Totally our next caller is bailey from minnesota. Hey bailey. How can we help you? Hey guys, um, so Like everybody else since you've been doing these live q&as. I just want to thank you guys There's actually a huge overlap business wise between what you guys talk about and the work that I do as a musician So that's been really cool as I've been ramping up My my own business and career and all of that. So I really appreciate that aspect of things and then I have a question about body re comp and hormone levels and and what's a realistic And smart expectation of that If you guys want me to go into like the background I I can I don't know how much you guys remember from my original submission. Yeah. Well, we're here, but we're looking at it right now Yeah, but I'd like for you to go over it so people can kind of understand what's where your question is coming from Sure. Sure. Sure. So I um, I am in my late 20s and I have been lifting consistently for About five years. I started off with crossfit. Um, and then I realized the error of my ways and I Went in more of a powerlifting direction. Um but when I started crossfit, I um I gained a ton of weight in a relatively short amount of time while cutting my calories and exercising like six times a week um and Wait, you said you gained to come a bunch of weight or you lost a bunch of weight I gained a bunch of weight. So you cut your calories and worked out like crazy and gained weight. Yeah, okay um and so I I do have um a little bit of like disordered eating in In my background as well. Um before I had started working out I had just significantly significantly cut down my my calories and um, I am not in that place anymore I've like Full transparency like been going to therapy and all of that to address those issues and that's been really helpful. Um, but I had a bunch of doctors um, tell me things like my weight gain was because of My my weight lifting and my strength training. Um, and they refuse to test hormones. They refuse to test my thyroid all of that stuff. Um, so I had to Like go through a lot of doctors and I finally found one that was willing to run those tests and it came back that um, my testosterone is like through the floor. Um, and My progesterone and estrogen are also on the low side So I'm just wondering moving forward since I am eating to fuel my workouts. Um And I am higher protein And all of that. Um I'm just wondering what a realistic expectation as far as that recomp goes Okay, and how to approach that in a in a smart way. Okay. So let's back up for a second. Okay. Let's talk about her broken food scale Yeah, I know for say so I want to go back to what you said earlier because I want to get this straight here Correct. We'll try maybe even figure this out. Yeah, you dramatically increased your activity and dramatically cut your calories and gained weight Okay, so Were you tracking calories? How did you know that the the calories changed that dramatically? How much weight did you gain and was it water weight below like what happened here? it so I I was tracking my calories when I was like In a really disordered place with my eating and that was as few as like Between 900 and 11 calories a day And then when I started Working out and doing that more consistently. Um, I did get hungrier and I increased those calories to 1400 to 1600 and like despite eating within like a Um, like a whole 30 parameter. So still not super great with with like that food relationship um, but despite that I gained like 60 pounds so you gained 60 pounds from going from 900 To 1100 calories to 1500 calories plus resistance training Okay, and was this a healthy 60 pounds? Do you feel or do you know? Okay? Okay, no, I think some of it was needed. I think some of it is muscle. Um, but Like my body comp right now. I am like around 35% body fat. Okay, which does not reflect My habits. Okay. And then are you on now you're on hormone therapy or the the supplementary hormones to bring things back up? Yeah, mm-hmm. What and do you mind if I ask what you're taking is it testosterone progesterone anestrogen or just testosterone? it's so my functional medicine practitioner is going through more of a holistic protocol before we go through like the um through like the the injection route and and all of that. Um, so she has me on some more natural supplements and is adjusted and is addressing some um, like vitamin deficiencies that I have Okay, so you're not you're not taking any hormones is what you're saying right now Okay, are you in there? Are you in our mind pump horn hormones group yet? No, that's free. So while we're talking get your S in there. Yeah, I just yeah really good experts on hormones in there. Okay, so What it sounds like your functional medicine practitioner is trying to do is get you healthy Yeah, and nutrient deficiencies overtraining You know disorder eating can cause a lot of hormonal issues and weird things to happen in the body And what might have happened with that weight gain was you starved yourself so much That your body was ready to absorb and suck in and store any Additional calorie it probably could when you finally started to feed yourself A little bit more. So that's probably what happened. What okay, so your question is about testosterone. Okay if you if your testosterone levels are up and Nothing else changes you can expect to gain muscle and burn body fat. That's a re comp Recomp effect that happens from testosterone. It's well documented, but in the studies Where that happens it's supplemental testosterone Okay, so it's like nothing changes you give someone testosterone Either through injection or cream or pellet and then you see muscle gain and fat loss Now the reason why I'm trying to be clear with that is because if you raise testosterone naturally Many of the effects that you'll see will come from the things that you're doing to raise the testosterone And then the testosterone goes up. So the difference between raising testosterone naturally and taking Exogenous testosterone is with exogenous testosterone your testosterone is high no matter what With natural testosterone You got to change a lot of things in your lifestyle to make that go up And the things that you change in your lifestyle often result in what you're looking for which is More muscle more strength less body fat and feeling better. Does this make sense? Yeah, yeah, it does I honestly when my hormone levels came back to my my doctor she Was kind of surprised that I am as strong as as I am So I just I don't want to put my body back in In a place where I'm just like beating a dead horse Bailey Besides your functional medicine practitioner are you and you don't have to answer this if you don't feel comfortable are you working with a therapist that specializes in Body image issues and disorder reading. Yep. Okay. That's the best investment. I think you can make because In order to do What you need to do for your health and of course when you get healthy And this is important for you to understand When you improve your health all the other stuff that you're looking for right the Leaner body the more strength looking a particular way or whatever that will follow the health Okay, so we just did a whole single topic episode. We did it'll follow the health So as you get healthier the other stuff starts it trails behind but it starts to Show up as the health improves and it takes a little longer than the health markers do But it will follow and the challenge is going to be Being able to do what you need to do and wait that yeah patient patient And and that's why working with a the therapist is by far of all the stuff that you're investing in probably the best investment because I I mean There's nothing's going to get in your way like yourself. So that's going to be the biggest obstacle for you now as far as your your exercise is concerned Yeah, what's the training look like? Oh, I would be 100 focused on Just feeling good and if you need to focus on a goal, I would make it strength Not that you can't get disordered with strength. You can get very dysfunctional with strength too But it's harder to get stronger while also having your health suffer Usually and not saying it's not possible. There's plenty of power lifters and bodybuilders out there that do it But it's it's harder if your strength gains are going up consistently It usually means that your health is better off than it was before it's if your health is declining. It's hard to also make Strength gains, but like I said, it's still possible. It's just harder. So if you have to focus on anything I would focus on strength. Well, let's dive into that a little bit What is your strength training routine look like right now like how many days a week? Are you training? What's the kind of the breakdown look like? Are you still in the kind of strength focus? Are you running like a five by five? Are you following in the maps programs? What are we looking like? Yeah, so I Like once I left crossfit. I just started doing maps programs. So I'm working my way through again right now through maps red um, I did Your power lift program like this summer and competed and like had a bunch of fun with that. Oh, cool Yeah That's great. Yeah, you're on your own point. Have you done map strong yet? Uh, no, not yet. Oh, you'll love that. Yeah, you'll love map where you're at right now. It's great I'd like to have you an anabolic so anabolic seeing the therapist working with the functional practitioner to try and first Naturally balance your hormones out get in the mind pump hormones for them so that you can sit there and pick the brain of Dr Ran and Dr. Todd. They're in there all the time answering questions. They're phenomenal Um, but I sounds like you you're on the right path right now. I think you just Uh need to be patient be patient and don't try and rush this process and but it sounds like you You're listening to good people. You're you're and you're following the right type of a routine and and heading the right direction Yeah, are you um, do you follow a lot of influencers and stuff on on social media? Absolutely not. Okay. Thank you In fact, I would say get off I would say just don't even go on social media at all. It's that's such a She's doing a lot of the right things. You just need to be patient. You're you're doing good Yeah, you're on the right track Bailey and I appreciate you calling in and you have access to a lot of our programs Are you in our are you in our other private form the one that cost money to have access to? No, I'm not. All right. We'll let you in there I would love for you to give us periodic Updates, um, and it's a great place too to get some feedback because I know it's going to be It's a challenging process. Yeah, you won't be alone There's actually plenty of people that are in a similar boat as you at that that are in that form So we'll let you in there. Okay. We appreciate you calling. Thank you. That's awesome. Thank you guys. No problem. Thank you, Bailey Boy, that's a that's a that's a tough one, right? Um, but I think the therapist is gonna be her best bet Oh man, she's I mean she's doing all the right things. Yeah, you know, she really is I mean she sought that help right away. So that's you know, she's she's doing making steps in the right Yeah, you know what this call was for her. She just wants validation. That's all it is That's everything. Yeah, I think she just wants to make sure hit my check on all the boxes and she literally everything we asked She said yes to she's on the right program. She's got a therapist. She's addressing the functional direction first So trying to naturally bring up all her hormone out and balance her hormones out Um, yeah, I you know, I would not tell her to and the other thing is just to be patient because it Just folks. I'm getting healthy. Yes step when you when you uh, when you hammer those hormones, man That it could take I've seen things flip around. I've seen clients We change a few things and bam right away their body's responding to Then I've seen other people it takes a long time It does so you just gotta you gotta be patient and and consistent with it But beyond being patient because sometimes when you say be patient, I think that people think oh if I'm patient enough Then something's gonna happen. I'm gonna hit this goal But the truth is it's uh, it's just a lifelong journey And you improve you continuously improve along the way just keep chipping away at it But there is no target, you know, I'm just like she's gonna hit it. Oh my god. I did it I was patient now it happened because I think if if people have that mentality then it's like it could be very very challenging It's so just it's just it's a forever process and once you accept that understand that I think It makes staying on that path a lot easier Our next caller is mica from alabama mica, what's happening? How can we help you? If any of your podcast and so looking forward to asking my question So go ahead and jump right into it So my church is putting on a men's retreat coming up here in mark And which is awesome a shout out to the assistant's church in Birmingham, Alabama But one of the activities that we can That we're going to be doing out there is to run a spark race Now this is one of the things I've been meaning to do on my bucket list for a long time now But it also comes at a very Tough time for me as far as training goes So to give you a little bit of background I became a dad for the first time about eight months ago Which is awesome best experience of my life But also it has limited my training. So before I became a dad I was doing split training with a little bit of cardio sprinkled in But ever since I've become a dad I've limited my training to about two to three times a week at this point Doing full body training basically on what you guys have told me in the podcast And I've gotten a lot of good results with that, but I know in order to run the spark race I'm going to need to change things up Most of the training programs that I've seen have said that you need to do training about four to five times a week Which is not realistic for me at this time But so I got is you basically keep it to two to three times a week And I'm wondering and my questions are this one. Is it realistic for me to train for this Spartan race? When we training two to three times a week And secondly if it is how should I prioritize endurance training versus strength training in order to prepare for this? Yeah, good question. So you're limited to two or three days a week, right? That's what we're working with And now is it realistic? Is it realistic to train for this race? That way. Yeah, it's realistic. I don't know if it's going to make you the best version of yourself But can you do it in three days a week? You definitely can The way that I would organize it is one day a week would be traditional strength training with maybe some mobility the other two days a week would be very obstacle course racing specific where you're practicing the events and the runs and the You know the rings and all the all the movements and activities you'll be doing in the race I would do that that the other two days a week And I think with the three-day kind of limitation that we have that would probably be the best way That I would organize a workout. Yeah, I actually think that um, you could totally do this Uh, so a 10k Spartan race is is a little over six miles, right? So You know if you if you build enough endurance to get through six miles and then incorporate some of the things Like grip strength and pull-ups and things carrying things which obstacle course racing has got in there We have a maps ocr program. So I'll have Doug send that over to you It is a little more than just two days a week So you can but what you can do is take you pull from it Yeah, pull two of those days out of there and then what I would do is every Every day before I start my routine, I would run one mile And then try to on the weekends or once a week go get uh one one of those weekends I try and get a two mile run in which we're hopefully this doesn't take but you know 15 20 minutes of your time Uh another day or another day or another week. I should say I would do a three mile And then at the end of the month, I would try and do a six mile run And combining that uh with the two days a week of like a full body strength routine That incorporates the pull-ups and carries and things like that I think you could actually do pretty damn well at the Spartan race Yeah, what's nice about the ocr one that program that we came up with too It also has mobility sessions in there to kind of compliment a lot of these Grip intensive type of Events and and obstacles that are in front of you So there's also a way to kind of scale that in terms of grip strength So you can perform well while doing these and building up your endurance So just like they said just kind of pull and extract Some of these workouts from the program and I think you can you can strategically Get a lot out of that just with three days a week on the day that you're in endurance Do you believe that since I get off very late on some nights? Do you think it would be realistic to do it on a treadmill or an elliptical versus running outside every time? Yeah, I mean if you have to you're better Look the closer you can get to what the race is going to be like the better But if you can't do that Then you can try simulating it on a piece of equipment Treadmill will be better than elliptical in this case. It's going to simulate running obviously better than elliptical But yeah, no, I absolutely the big thing is going to be your gas tank. That's what you're in fact I think in maps ocr. I mean we wrote that program a while ago, but I think We have treadmill specific. Yeah workouts in there So in there tests in there too that you kind of work up to so I would probably you know look into that for like You know once a month you kind of test it out and see where where you stand in terms of your time and everything So that way you have some kind of a gauge as far as how your programming is is paying off We just talked to somebody similar like you'd be amazed by how how much you can improve your cardiovascular endurance just by simply Running a mile or two every time you go to work out and that really shouldn't take up a lot of your time to do that And you know week over week you'll you'll quickly see yourself start to improve on that time And then you only need to you know once or twice a month do something that's even close to comparable as far as the distance So saying you know four to six miles once or twice a month So like one of those days you you take off for you know, 20 minutes and do a run You do that consistently leading up to the competition. You're and then if you're also incorporating Exercises that are going to challenge grip and pull up strength and carrying which is in ocr Uh, you you're gonna do fine, man. You'll do great. Yeah, we'll send over maps ocr for you So you can you have some stuff to pull from okay, Michael All right, thanks. Well, thank you dad. No problem. Congratulations on being a new dad That out Oh, thank you Michael Boy, these uh, these obstacle course course races are so popular now. They're just they're doing them everywhere Yeah, well, they're fun. I guess. Yeah getting outside getting dirty getting after I think it just has its own appeal in terms of like doing something completely outside your comfort zone Yeah, I I also think that yes, if you're advanced, you're probably going to be training five days a week or so but Most people can make tremendous progress with a few days a week Like at some point you may reach the point where you need to add an extra day But I think people they like, you know, they overestimate that. Oh, I need to add an extra day It's like there's a lot you could do with these three days before you add more time There's this misconception of you know more means you're going to get more results It doesn't you could you can get plenty of progress, especially what I'm talking about 10k is only six miles So to get somebody good at running for six miles It doesn't take as that much time and effort towards that I mean you can you and you don't also have to do it every time It doesn't go out and run six miles every day to get good at running six miles You can break it up in one mile, two mile, three mile type of increments and improve that every week Totally. Look if you like our information head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out all of our guides We have guides that can help you with almost any fitness goal. You can also find all of us on instagram So Justin is at Mind Pump Justin. I'm at Mind Pump Sal and Adam is at Mind Pump Adam