 Welcome to Toffy TV, it's the final word ever in one, Huddersfield Town one. An absolutely rip roaring minute to minute end-to-end clash. This game wasn't. It was there we are joined by Cameron from the Mighty Blues. Joe, and Joe does designs, actually turned up today, which is a big thing. On me and Paddlough talking, he would say he had a fight. Focan does well like focan talks. Get off me, sorry mate. You knew what you did. I did, I did. Padd, let's get straight into it. The team Saturday obviously were looking forward, we just had that result at Bournemouth, which was one of those, I haven't been ahead, beat rather than come into Saturday's game. What did you make of the team as you expected? It picks itself at the moment doesn't it? Let's be honest, that's where we are for three games into the season, or whatever four games into the season. Obviously Dean starting it. He came in, which was a slightly, slight surprise, but then when you see the way we were playing with Calvallun, slightly tucked in on the left rather than being right out there, it seemed to make sense. So from that point of view, there's not really anything I would have done differently. Luchman wouldn't have started for me. So it was as you were wearing, there was a frustrating game, but you get them every year at Godderson, and you get them at this time of year as well. It doesn't always go smoothly. I'm not getting too hung up on this game, I must admit it. Diolch, were you surprised with the team or did you think it would be? No, I think that's the team that was always going to start, to be honest. I personally would have had Dean, I had the beans, natural left foot I think, and his cross ability was incredible all game, if you think about it. But yeah, that's the team I expected, to be honest. You can? Yeah, I predicted it pretty much like that, other than with beans instead of Diolch. Obviously, it was happy with Diolch coming in, no qualms. I think the substitution was a little bit strange. I think Diolch obviously playing the 90 against Roderham and having a good game. If he's not fitting off to play the 90 against Othersfield, would I have started beans and brought him on, or like you said in the C-match line-up, played him at other beans instead? But like I said, I had no issues with playing him. He was quality against Roderham and again, quality in this game as well. I think it might be a fitness issue. I don't know the minute why he can complete the 90. No, no, I thought it would come on to the shuffle. It was a strange shuffle for me as well. I thought we started off okay. I thought we had control of the game very early on. I thought the tempo was okay. But again, we just... We had not... The game plan was to push us inside into the packed areas. We just didn't spread... No, you could see straight away Di had 11 men behind the ball, straight away, and it was always going to be hard to break them down. Not having that weight on the left-band side was an issue. You can't really blame that on currently. We've been picked to do the job. There's not anyone else instead. For all the options we've bought, not clearly not enough games of football to be fit. And also, I don't think he shoots, hugging the touchline, like with Jonathan does. He doesn't really shoot that. You've seen that when he came on later on. But now I don't think we... I don't know, it's hard to say. Some teams will go straight into teams like that when they're on to just test them straight away. We were a little bit slower out of blocks. But again, it's... I don't know, there was just a... All game, there was a lack of creativity all over the pitch. I don't know whether walk-up was carrying an injury from the start. He just never looked up for that all game. He couldn't really find him in space. Sheamus Cormor wasn't getting up alongside Amade to create that space. And I just think that lack of spark in the midfield, in the central area of the midfield, really caused those problems all game because that's where we need to degenerate. Just that little something special. And we just couldn't do it first off. And I think once they sort of sniffed that out and realised that, that gave them confidence. And we've seen that before, we've seen that last season. And I think they just realised that. We were going to always find it difficult to break them down. So they started being a little bit more progressive and a little bit more optimistic about the chances. What did you make your very care to me coming in obviously? I thought he's brilliant. I think he's a route one centre half. He has it out. I've never seen a man jump as high, to be honest. Especially in that area. He flies in here. I think he's a good centre half. And I like the way he's come out now. And he said, look, I'm not going to talk about a permanent move. He's set a start. He's here to play footy. And he's here to do his job. He's not here to plug anyone. He's not here to say, oh, I might be at the next year. And he's just saying, look, I'm here now. Use me now. If I'm here next year, whatever. I think he had a good game. I think he had a good game against Roderham as well. And I think when Mena comes in and can play alongside him. I like Mason Allgate, but I just don't think he's experienced enough. I don't think he's ready yet to be playing every single week in the Premier League. I think obviously we'll see what Mena's like, but I really rate him. I think he's a player that I wanted to have in for a few years, to be honest. A couple of years. And like I say, the ball gets to him and he has it out. And he's a route one. He's big proof. And that's what he wanted to centre half, don't you? He don't want someone that can be pushed off the ball. Easily. Or someone that's going to let the ball roll along his feet and make a challenge that wasn't a red card. That's true, yeah. What about him dropping shoulders and hitting shots? Oh, brilliant. Yeah, that's what you want to say, innit? I thought he was going in. I thought he was going in. Yeah. I think he had a decent game here too. I mean, he's everything that we needed. He can link up well with Yari Mena, if I'm being honest. You know, obviously coming in as a lone deal, it's going to be a good transfer for us. But on a permanent transfer, I don't think it's probably optional at the moment. As Camden said, I think he doesn't want a permanent deal as of yet. So we'll have to just wait and see. But yeah, a good performance. Good Premier League debut, in my opinion. It doesn't really matter whether he's permanent or not. Football is such a... It's changed so much in the last few years. It doesn't really matter anymore who plays for you, who signs for you. You know, we've seen players from top European clubs going to other European clubs on two-year deals and all these kinds of things. It doesn't really matter. Check, I mean, in Europe, we've seen them playing against each other in Champions League games and all this. It doesn't... I couldn't care less. What did you make of his performance? I thought he was good. I thought we needed that strength in defence. Cos I thought, personally, I thought Hoggit was bullied all game. Other people have said difference. I thought he was amazing. I didn't think he was amazing at all. The lad moved over to him and just sat on him all down and bullied him. I'm not saying that's not his fault. He's not as physically as big as the other two lads and you can see that, but he's stuck in there and he at least gave them a fight he wanted. But Zuma looks like everything we need and it'll be interesting to see. What we do need is to play next week so that's what we need. You would imagine it'll be mean it. You're hoping. But we haven't seen anything of him yet so you don't know. Obviously Michael King started the season pretty well. But it's two gels together and it's two... Listen, the problem we've got, we can see what the problem we've got is. At the moment it's Zuma yn marchan. For me, the problem with Zuma yn marchan is, is in games like this, I think as a fan and I think this is the place as well, you're terrified that they get a corner. You're terrified that they get a long throw. I wasn't. I think other people. Honestly, I wasn't because I said this before on camera. We defended 10, 12 long throw-ins. We defended four corners. I've just saying this again. I've watched the goal 17 times it was a concert before to see what happened before it had come out. And it's the same thing that happened against Sheldon to misdirected it. But nobody reacts. Nobody reacts. No-one reacts. Don't you think that's a problem? Don't you think that a team like Hothersfield who comes to Hothersfield who's got no right to win the game? It's always got a sniper chance. It's always got a chance of winning the game because they've got an option to just throw it in the box. And I think that, if that problem didn't exist, I honestly believe we would have gone from more at them. We would have gone. But because, I don't know what they have to do is put one long ball of field. One of our scents have asked me to set it or something and it goes out for a corner. Next we had bang bing and it's a goal. You've got to be wary of that. And I think that that's something we've got to get fixed because that will stop us playing our true game if we're always worrying about that one little problem. Because if teams have got no other way of breaking you down. I don't know, I don't know. And they were limited and that's... Without having to go with them, they don't want the... It's a big bang bing, a bit of a mistake. They needed us to make a mistake for them to explore because they are poor. Quality wise, they are poor. They're probably one of the worst teams I've seen at Goddison in a while. So they needed us to make a mistake for them to capitalise and they're the games that you need to get the second and once you get the second you're flying and you're getting third, fourth, fifths. But you need to, like you said before, you need a player of quality that can break that down and create that chance. And once the second goal goes in, then you're getting more of them. But it was that, that we lacked. It was the pushing after. We equalised. Sorry, we equalised, literally, a minute after they scored and it was a bit splash-bosh easy. We were missing by now, massively, really. I don't know if we're missing them because it's not... It's a player that you need to unlock the defence. It's a player that you need but I can't say we're missing them because I've not seen it. Yeah, a moment in which it was needed there. We missed the challenge and because of the challenge and the ability to go outside and inside. Drop central as well, doesn't it? Drop central as well, doesn't it? It's pretty powerful and he's peisi. Yeah, yeah. And he causes the problems and when you've got him on wall cut on both sides, teams are concerned. Where are the weekend? Call of Illumines. Call of Illumines. No, he didn't see it. He called brilliantly well. Listen, the thing you get off Call of Illumines, you don't constantly... You never worry about him not putting the shift in because he does. But I just think for me it was a waste of a player putting out there because he doesn't do what you need him to do out there. He's better centrally and he showed that with the goal he got himself across the defence but then there's got to go there. Yeah, of course, yeah. But when he's asked to play in that position, that's why I would have started ahead of Bains because you've got natural left, left over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Towson is doing all his work everywhere else but where we need them to be. Towson's doing everything on his way. You need them in the middle. The other thing was as well, I don't know whether you thought this to face that. Sigurdson's just bogged down with people. The amount of time you've got called on the left. Or Sigurdson on the left. Or Sigurdson on the left. Or Towson on the left. Or Towson. Or Towson. And I think Dean and Sigurdson would have worked really well together because there's an intelligence there. Yeah. And Dean's got the pace. Dean just moves past people like they're not there. And it's not even a pace thing. It's just... It's clever. It's clever. And also he's like dead. He's mannish. His body shape's dead. Relax. He just fluently moves past people without really any issue. There are lots of times when we spread the ball through. And it just... The control wasn't neat. You could tell he didn't even think about it. It come in interesting. But I think Sigurdson could have played that role. He could have played that role. And moved in almost like Dominic Arvill-Lewin. But having Dominic in the middle rather than where he was would have helped as much. But I think I think you're right. We got bogged down in the middle of the park because actually having three in there meant they were concentrating more of their plays in the middle of the park. Where we'd spread them out a little bit. That would have forced them and that would have created the gaps then. You'd like to think. Let's talk about the goal first. Obviously they got the goal. It was a poor bit of defendant by us really. They had a couple of long throwings which we didn't really deal with very well. They get a corner. It's a cross comes in. I think it's Dean. Dean blocks it out. It goes across and he blocks the thing. So off that corner when you look, where's set really well? Within the life. You know if you're stopping. I know, I know. We're set up really well. Right? The one thing you notice is this. The one thing you notice is this. The one thing you notice is this. The one thing you notice is this. Four of them get distracted. Four of them get мечtrated. Four of them doesn't do anything. He just jumps like that. Calvert Llewyn goes to the ball but I think he's, I think it is job too. It's not the ball. So he's done his job like. Zuma went to the ball and Mason Holgate follows a player. Cymru ni mwyn maen marŵn? Yn de'r f Meddlid. Tom Davis had two men. One he started many straight three, one, but the other one billing, he was on the show. Now the ball, I just redirect the ball, he doesn't do anything, he doesn't really even move. It hits the back of someone's head, comes on, he just redirects it. Passed pick foot on me, that's a car, looked off side to me, cos you're in front of pick foot, so be it goes in. But what we're saying about the zone, and you're right, and at the moment, like you said to me, we were talking before and we're saying, this was year two, and people look and now go on. Why are we still not able to mark off zone on mark, and it's very early days and the manager's even said to himself that we need to work on it. But anyway, if you're playing it, if you're playing any level of football, if your manager goes, we'll zone on mark today, or we'll match on mark on a Sunday or whatever, if you're doing that and someone's by, you still make sure you put it, even if it's not your man, if you're looking someone's here, just mark them. We're not doing that, we're going, ball, ball, ball. And whether they're just all concentrating on my zone, this is the line I need to be in. If someone runs behind you, you've got to go with it. If anyone runs for that building, that isn't even a chance. I think that's what it is, a little bit, I think it's a bit of, I don't want to go against what we're being told to do, the zone on mark, and I think that's when players need to step up and go, listen, for this throwing, jag that off, you mark him, because he's on his own, go to him, and there's no threat. I think it's a little bit of, I don't want to say naïvety, but players not wanting to get out the zone and say, well, this is where I'm told to be, so I'm going to stay here. Don't they mark someone's by? Exactly, that's what I mean. Even if you're in that zone? Even if the one throwing, the one set piece, you say, leave this now, I'm going for him, I'm getting this ball out, then there's no complaints, the manager can't complain if a ball has been cleared rather than gone in, no matter how you feel. What was the feeling around you? Was everyone kind of at your table? I don't understand how a cross, how four players can get a sector to a ball if they're all playing zone on mark, and how does that work? That's not your zone, so I have four of yous going into that zone, and I have one player, I can't, I suck at all time, I can't just do it for fun, you should just stand in front and just, ever away, every game. What's badly started to do me last year or so, excuse me for last year, has someone who's going to be naïve, most crossers come in the game, naïve to flask, and they're looking for the flick or they're looking for someone to get that naïve post, it's very few that you see go up, because they know the keepers are going to come inside them most of the time. So as someone naïve post, even if it's your biggest man, get snaddling at the front post and say, you're going to deal with everything in the air. And if anything goes over your head, that's the keepers, if anything goes over his head. And that really should, that should be, a ball shouldn't be dropping in the six yard box or penalty spot, and they get a three out of it, and players are having the last four games, isn't it now, or four out of five games, have had tappings or headers from that, that shouldn't be happening. And that for me, that doesn't matter, whether you manage it, does it all week with you. If you can't do it on a Saturday afternoon when it's expected of you, every single time. If you can't do that every single time, or nearly every single time for a challenging, it just, for me, just creates those naïves around the ground that we don't need, and players, players are turning around, looking at these things, they're going on. And then they're like, we can't give away any throws, we can't give away any set pieces. And that just leads to cheap throws being given away, cheap set pieces giving away, cheap corners. Cos players are just like, I'd play for a corner, these look naïve, but it's not, I don't think it's just the zone of thing, cos you just mentioned what happened before the corner, not being able to just get rid of the ball, not being able to just clear the ball. They're like just basics. It's stuffy girls, they were singing as well, isn't it? They're like, no, no, it's, who scored a good goal against us, pass on the free kick against Wolves, who has scored a good goal against us this season. I don't like speaking about them, but they never pull up this issue in the first season. But they did, a lot of teams have this issue, it's not... It's really getting on the go. It's, sometimes it's not actually about the system, it's about the person, you know. Who's to say, Jerry Meenon doesn't come into the side, and suddenly you've got a big player who just stands there, and everything that comes in, you just go, bing, bing. It's what Van Dijk does with them, isn't it? And again, I'm not having a goal at somebody here, but Jordan Pickford's size, I think, is also an influence in this. He's not going to come for CrossFit. If you've got a 6'47 goalkeeper, he's coming for you, isn't he? Jordan's not like that, Jordan's brilliant, but he's not like that. He's not a big, he's a lad who's going to say, I'm not going to come because even if I jump and punch someone or they play, that billion new scores is a big lad, or something. He might have jumped me, and I'm going to do what I do. So I think that's... He hasn't got many floors, Pickford, but I think that is one of the floors of being a goalie who's not... Never was like that, though. Never was a goal-line keeper. He wouldn't come for stuff unless... I'm not having a goal at him for it. I think that you have to adjust your tactics and say, if anyone does come over, if he's on his line, he's going to come and punch you, but you can't expect a goalkeeper who's only just over 6'4 to go through everyone and try and get the ball through, I think. You have to work round that. And we're not. I'm going to play it for me. There was runs before we scored. My day had a throw. We ended up with the Towson shot, but day had a throw and he comes in. The fflapping, Dominic Hall of the Loon tries to do some bad clearance, kicks his side to one of the players, and the whole guy gets a block in. You could see them, and you think of just everyone. Can't settle it down. But anyway... Sorry, just go on. But you watch, like, go and watch lower league football and just watch how anything like that sends a back, just deal with it slowly. It's just like a different world. It's like the higher you go up, all these basic things are defending. You watch any championship game. You'll see, we had them in the night, one of them. Every time they're big lavish, it's just like, boom. That's what they were working on all week, one of them. At the weekend, cos a lot of them are lower, it's a deco mentru, they're not. But the good thing was, all right, we went behind. The good thing was, and it's the first time we've been behind this season, by the reaction, one of them. And we're in a minute, we're level. And Lucas Dain, he spoke about the left foot going past players. Get a little bit lucky. Try as it's off the shoulder, wins the saddle, but the delivery into the box is fabulous. Cameron a brilliant run by Calvert Loom and a great zedden. Yeah, quality again, I think we've seen it against Roderham as well, another ball coming in and Calvert Loom gets on the end of an edit from across from Dain. Yeah, I think it's a positive. It shows that, you know, we go first time, gone behind this season and we're back straight away. It shows that we're not going to have, well, I don't want to jinx it, but it doesn't look like we're going to have an issue with coming back from conceding. It is just the case of not conceding the first week. But I think that he's going to be quality for us this season. Balls coming in like that, no matter what. Even the one against Roderham, it was a good edit. By Calvert Loom to knock it down, but any striker, any class knows how to get that ball down and it goes in. I think he's putting balls on the plates for strikers and that'll only benefit Tossen as well, when balls keep coming in, because he's not scared to put his head anyway. As soon as a ball comes in, he'll throw his head. So I think that's what you need. You need a left back, a full back. That once is up the other end, we said that about coming off camera, his crossing has been poor this season so far in the four games. If you've got a full back, that can put a ball directly onto the penalty area. He's putting these balls directly onto players' heads. He knows where Calvert Loom's going to be and he's plonked it on his head and that shows his quality and you can't have to. That's come from Barton on it. He's so calm on the ball. He's so calm on the ball. He's a different kind of full back and some of the modern day, you look at them now, the way they get the ball, they're just running up on it. He's a little bit different. It's all touch. It's all touch with him and I think that's why he's going to rely on someone just being in and around them. Like they've been at. They've been at. He's 25, he's experienced. He's been at all the big clubs in Europe. He's a brilliant left back. He's going to be really good for us. He looks like he's come in and obviously looked like he's played for a while. The weekend, you know, when you see against Roderham, you go, he was brilliant against Roderham, but it's Roderham. You know what? And then at the weekend he was brilliant. It's the same money. Absolutely big to say. He said they're calm on the ball. He's a good ball. He's a good header. Some of the goalkeepers. The goal he could have said. The thing is though, he couldn't get two hands on it. He couldn't play, but so was there. So I don't think we scored anybody. He would say that because of his size on a cleaner. Because he's a very glad. He just couldn't get it. But it was important that we scored straight away. Because if it got, you know, you can imagine we've seen it before, like Benny last season and West Brom a couple of years ago, the longer it goes on and the more they dig in and the more the crowd are getting a little bit agitated. It was important to win straight away. It was like the West Brom game last year. Let's tell you many. It was similar to that game where they come with a plan, a limited plan, but a plan that they exploited. And we just kind of... We allowed it to matter, didn't we? Bit of that game demanded me what it was like last season and it just went to me. You know what? Gave me what we thought and with other players to come in. See someone saying it where now. The dice is to the players. People said. Well, some of it is. But it's important. That's nonsense though, isn't it? Because that's like saying the Huddersfield team, if they came out and set themselves up like that, they didn't manage to set themselves up. We've seen that already this season. We've seen the same set of players as we had last season and we've seen completely different. And that's what the manager does. The manager tells your all-week run to play in the same way. So, I've seen that myself. I've seen players, people saying, what's the difference with all of the dice? Well, the difference is that if you're playing a more attractive game of football, you will hopefully win more games of football. Time will tell, but I guarantee with all of the dice the best they would have ever got us was seventh where this guy, and this guy, why he's been brought in is to break through that and try and get us at both that. And that's all you can hope for, but I guarantee, all of the dice wouldn't have took us anywhere else. In some respect, it is the same set of players, so you will in some games. It's a brick wall. Of course, really. You know what I mean? As good as we've, Markham Silver's got them. At the weekend, there was too many different things that come together. So it was disjointed because a lot of those plays haven't been playing and one play together all of a sudden. And that's why. I will say one other thing, for me, it's not Silver's team. It's still somebody else. Well, it's about four different places. It's the Frankenstein team. It's still not his team. And until he gets all his players back fit, then we'll know what his team is. Then we'll know. You can't be judged yet, really. You can't be judged for it, Barry. Give him another year or so, at least before you judge him really. Really. Because that's how long it's going to take to move some of these players out even further. To keep going up the run with the ladder. But you'd have a look and you'd go, who's he bought in so far? Bernard, is he better than what we've got? Well, he bought in probably. It's me next time and I'll tell him what he looks like. He may be Zuma. Certainly. It's great to have a centre back with a bit of pace for the change running back. You know, with Charleston, he's the same age as Luckman, which one would you rather have? Everyone he's brought in, when you look at it like that, Andre Gomez, like Cameron Sin, was excellent at Valencia and was okay. Not as bad as people make out of Barcelona. So you'd look and go, they're better than what we have. You know, David Underwood called Jav Virginia the best goalkeeping performance he's seen at that level. The other week another keeper. So things are moving. It's about the patience with all of us. We all want it now. We all want to win every game. We all want to see five nil home wins every time. But we have to just. I think we need to sit back and remember that he's turning the ship. He's really turning the ship. And it's not just obviously it's the same set of players. Majorly, but it's the mentality. It's the style of football. It's the having the players think attack and not come back or let's just keep it back and not concede rather than let's go focus on scoring and not conceding. And that's a massive turn and that Michael Silver has to implant into everything. It's not going to take four games. It's also a good point, but it's also seeing whether those players that he's got are good enough and the only way that will happen is a season. He's actually looking at it and addressing it. I hear people again, you're listening to people going, we need another striker or we need this or we need that. We haven't got them. You just get on with what you've got and then when you come to the next. Do we need another striker? Well, yeah, we need the best striker in the world, really, don't we? That's what you need. That's what everyone needs. You don't just sit there and go, he's all right, he's all right. I'll keep him for years. You go, how can we be better? But the only way you see how we're going to be better is actually playing games and seeing if players are responding to the way the manager wants them to play. Some players you'll go, ah, he fits perfectly into this system and then you're playing, he doesn't fit at all. When Moise came and we had Marcus Benton up front and everyone was like, fuck on Marcus Benton. He fitted the system perfectly for that time. And then when it was time to move him on, we brought somebody and didn't actually fit the system. He was a better player but didn't fit the system and then we had to go and get the next one who did fit the system and it's just, you've just got to sometimes just, and they're working towards January now. So they'd be looking and going, who can we get in January? He's better than them. You know, they might get to January and go, right, and they ask, Garatas, I won't you because we won him over there because he'll fit it better then. Next summer, the plan and then you move again. That's what it is, it's not. I keep saying, this isn't the end point now. This is just the start. We should all be excited. That was annoying. It was horrible. It's consigned to the album 101. Let's get on that. We got West Ham in three weeks and we move forward. That's it. Let us know what you think in the comments section below. Can you understand the frustration? Where you were booing? If you were, what were you booing? Referee or who were you booing? Is Tom Davis good enough? Is he crap? Whatever. 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