 A very warm welcome to you. Thank you very much for keeping it to Y254. This is Power Talk. My name is Ramagugo and as always it is a pleasure being with you each and every Thursday from 11am. As always, this is the best place to be each and every Thursday. For those who are just tuning in this, we are coming to you live from our broadcasting house here in Nairobi, Kenya. We are also live on our website at www.kbc.co.ke for slash Y254. So to Kokila Pahali meet and aoni. So ensure that you engage with us. The hashtag is Power Talk show on Twitter at Ramagugo at Y254 channel. We've posed a question on our Facebook page in regards to our conversation today which is all about the men. Today I'm joined in the studio by men. Today we are to understand what men wish women knew. What men wish women knew. And you know this is a conversation that I know most people will be interested in because the lack of communication is what leads to problems in relationships. It is because someone doesn't understand the other that they are able to get into arguments and fights with them. Now to the men, sometimes you're quiet and you feel misunderstood. What do you feel and what do you wish this particular person knew about you? What do you that you feel women knew about the men that would make life easier? Is it about your personality? Is it about your character? Is it about your likes and dislikes? Tell us. To help us in this conversation, I'm joined by none other. To my extreme left, Daniel Kibet. Thank you so much. Thanks for finding time. You're looking sharp sharp. It's a cold morning, by the way. And next to me I'm also joined by Aliva. Yes, I'm sick of you, my boys. I'm lost, my boys. Thank you to the fullest. David, my name. Oh my goodness, today I feel relaxed. My boys too. It's a men's talk today. Yes. Let's talk as men. If we had some glasses here to the kunyaki dog with the chahi. Because as men we need to have these conversations, we need to talk as men. So enjoy that engage with us on our social media platforms. The hashtag is one in the morning. Part of show is the hashtag. I wish we made you a boys' wish. Yeah. At Ramagupan at White River Channel, participate with us. We post a question on our Facebook page and show that you go ahead over there and drop in your comments. We also ask our viewers to send in clips of themselves. Remember that you can be part of this conversation. Send in a clip of yourself and we shall play that clip as we continue with today's show. Men, let's talk. Let me start. You did it before. What do you wish these women knew about men? Yeah, men are just men. It's easy to wish. We are just men. We want life to be easy. We don't want complication. We don't love complication. This is going to be one of the most complicated shows I've ever done in my career because I'm talking about what men wish women knew when I'm a man. So to the women outside there, also be part of this conversation. As you're saying, we're easy people. Yeah, we wish they knew we were easy. It's easy to remove and we're always focused and we don't want distraction. And the worst thing is nag, distraction. For me, I think women should understand that number one, a home is a place where I need to come and seek ambience, peace, and not disturbance, as Aliyah said, and distraction. By the time I'm coming home, and all you can do is just yell to me and say, I want to talk to you. You know, we don't want that. When I'm coming home, welcome with home warm hearts. Give me some tea. That's my boyfriend, my husband. Have a bit. And you know, there's something that I'll have a moment to say here. Men love peace. Now, I want us to give different examples. In the case where you've had a long day at work, you talk at job, you go home. How would you like to be received from the door, as a man? And giving a scenario, you talk, assuming you have a job, you have a stomach. You've been walking through Nairobi with that brown envelope, that CV, and you've come back home. How would you like to be received from the door? First of all, you see, these are saying, how they say that men, when you go outside there, which is usually like a field, when you go outside there, we use all our arrows. We don't have any sound. That's why you see, if you're living alone or something, as a man, you come home and you don't even cook. That's why most of the guys who eat in those two hours are men. Because when you use all our arrows, we are tired and we are done. Not like women. Women have reserves. They'll come back and maybe care for the kids and those kinds of things. So because of that, when they come back, I expect one piece, two, appreciate me for the effort. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I just expect when I see you, I see peace. I'll be very okay. The rest of the things, we might be having problems. We might be having some E and there, you have some other questions. Kylie, can you just reserve it for some time? First of all, deal with this beat, because we also live in beats, okay? There is a time, can you have a charm? Can you be this charm that knows when to bring an issue? To bring an issue, because not every time. I always say we measure on the measure. Those are men. We measure on the measures, not like, you know, women, the complication is that they measure on minus, the new things that the small things. But they need just to know one thing. You can postpone those things and look for good time to come in. So, when you go home, you don't want stress, you don't want to talk about anything about how The only thing that you just need to know, I think timing is a thing here. Timing is a key. What time exactly do you raise an issue? Done. If there's one. How do you want to be received when you come back home after a long day of work? I'm born coming from a Chauvinistic kind of community, but by stopping getting into the kitchen, I'll just classify. You stop going to the kitchen and classify? Classify. When I was at home, before I moved out into my place, when my dad finds in the kitchen as a man who has undergone that circumcision, it's an abomination. So, most of the things I do not cook. I started learning how to cook now during campus life and all that. So, number one, as a lady who I've dated, I'm dating you or I've married you, number one, me coming at home, I don't expect us to have an argument on how we're supposed to eat. Because by the time we're dating me, these are factors that you have known. I've already told you that number one, I don't know how to cook. And cooking is not my passion. So, usually as seeds, the first cooking is not my passion? So, cooking, I don't know how to cook. Yes, cooking is not my passion. If you can't cook, she has to cater for it. Yes. And you have to try. You're cooking for me when I come at home after work, is not a favor you're doing for me. Because by the time we're dating, you knew very well, Daniel Kibbet does not cook or doesn't love how to cook. Number two, me coming home, you know, supposed me to bombard with bills. I'm not a working ATM. When you're at that bed during pillow talks, now you can have those bills conversation in bits also. You can start one at nine, give another one at 11, and when you wake up at four, give another one. Not bombard with everything. Okay. Yes, yes. You can't cook anything. I can't cook. I told you now during campuses when I started practicing how to cook so many things. But so far, how are you surviving so far? I do cook basic things. I not cook meat, I not cook rice, I not cook eggs, there's noodles, there's spaghetti and all that, you know. But noodles, not called noodles. To me, it's a bit different from my mom's teaching us this thing as way back from class one to one. So me, I don't have a problem with that. I can try here and there. I might not be very perfect, but I can try my bit up and up and I don't have a problem with that cook, wash, have you on board, those kinds of things. I'll do that freely. I feel like I can come at easy. Me, which could have, I can come at easy if learning how to cook. You know, me, I can't cook. Yes, yes. How do you survive? You know that hot water, once you boil and then you get the thermometer and then you pee at the right temperature. You know, we are scientists. We know how to make sure that once it is just a boiling point, you know, now we're going to remove it. That's an achievement. Now I'm saying, to the point I can cook kindly, so you just appreciate to that extent Do you tell the person that you're with that you can cook? To me, I wouldn't suppose that because I'm not a chef, I've gone to those whatever. I wouldn't maybe do those kind of things, but because you know, there's something very different here that we are wired, especially maybe in Africa or something, that women mostly want to cook. I can start competing with a woman in terms of, you know, I'm just, if I'm going to do it, I'm just trying. Okay, I'm just trying. So there's a way that we are wired. Just like a man, you know very well, providing Niyako. A real man, you just know, you know, that's something I want to, I want to share. Like me, I'm a bit different. I want to go to those things of Ateati. If God can, if God can do it, I will do it. Yeah, that's my responsibility. You do it. I was born, confirmed, a man, you can't deal with everything. For me, number one, I don't deal with housewives. That's number one for me. I need someone who can challenge me. When I come after work, I've got there, probably if we've got at the same time, we can do takeouts and then come and chill. Now talk about how our day was. But you want someone who can challenge me. We have sober conversation rather than a missionary. Let's have a sober conversation of how your work place was. What are the challenges that you're facing? How can I help you? How can you help me? And move forward. And then now come with a missionary for a few minutes, then go to bed. To me, I agree with him. Housewife is not normal. I want challenges, but I'm just saying to me, I believe a man is a king. A man is a king. When you're born, you're just a king. You look at two kids, a boy here and a girl here, you talk about two. He's the way that boy... ...the way that we're fallen into. There is a structure. There is a structure. We look... There's not one person who can be a king. Just be a man. One of us. One of us. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. There's a woman, there's a father. Ha, ha, ha. You can't advise. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I'm trying to guide you. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I'll leave over. I'm just saying, I'm just saying to you. You, you, you, you... You look at the guy saying, okay, I need a wife. There's a way that we are just one. And we wish women knew this. We wish women knew that. Before you even tell me you need to be a man. Man up, I'm a man. I'm only a man. I don't need to man up. I don't need to man up. If things happen the right way, maybe you can be lacking. But you try to do. You'll see. Yes, yes. Number two. Also on bills, I don't go disagree with Aliyah. In terms of bills, there are things that I don't need to cater for in the house. If you're working, Aliyah said that you can pay the bills. I can pay the bills. But you say you don't want a woman who will balance out. Not even go 50, 50, maybe even 30, 70. I do 70, she does that. I don't want to go to jail. Like, there's no cell. There's no car. You know, basic things. First moving commodities, there's no money, there's no car. Those are not things that every day I need to be asked for. You see, you're working at the end of the day. But one thing I practice and I want Mr. Gistoriza, my figures. Life is good, but when then I don't know. You don't have, you don't have. Just use common sense. Why? See, I don't want to go to jail. You know, you wish they knew that they would sometimes think for themselves and make decisions without necessarily having to come to you. Yeah, you see, like Ram, for me, at times, most of the time actually, during this time, I'll get the house at 10. You should not expect me to come with Nyama at 10 during coffee hours. Or like, get me that meat. She should have bought it before. Yes, yes. Or ask me, if you don't have that cash, ask me. I need to get meat. So we need women who think first. Yes. You think, we'll think ahead. When I get there, then you're like, babes, I have not eaten. So what should I do? I'll eat on Sunday. Yes. I'll eat on Sunday. What should I do? I'll eat on Sunday. Yes, I'll eat on Sunday. If you wanted the money and everything, see money. But somehow or the other, I'll eat on everything. I'll eat on everything. There's nothing good like, you know, things are just flowing. She knows. Oh, I will love you for that. Because things are just flowing. I'll eat on everything, I'll eat on everything. That's all. You'll make up for it. I also like such kind of a person. Just like me. Me as a man. If I have money, it's equal to. I know there are bills. I want us to touch on this perspective. Because there's this perception that men like some particular things that women have. Remember, we're talking about what men wish women knew. The body. This lady is slender. Oh, my goodness. Who you mean, Amé? He's well-endowed. This one is short. We don't know. This one is slightly darker. Who you mean, chocolate? This one is brown. This one is, you know, white. This one has tattoos. This one doesn't. This is crazy. This is wild. Yeah, this is crazy wild. What should women know about our perception about what we want? Because men are physical beings. What we see is what we get. That's what we want. Are you up? I think I'm going all too far. That's how I draw something like that. You know, Ram, beauty lies in the eyes of the beer holder. Beer holder. Oh, beer holder. You know, it depends how you approach it. Or beer holder. Not beer. Beer. You know, beer holder. Or beer holder. So people of different artists and preference. You'll get here, maybe, Aliyah. Aliyah loves the slender one and the short one. You'll get here, love the one who has piercings and tattoos and endowed. So in terms of physics, that comes in fades. That comes during first few months. I'll be like, ah, this is what I want. I'm seeing it. I appreciate it. It also gives me a piece of me coming home every day to see her. But after that, it will fade away. Because now, I'm used to that. Because you know, men, number one, what women need to understand is, like personally, at times it gets monotonous. I get bored. I keep on seeing it. Same thing, same thing, same thing. So number one, what women need to do, actually in relationship. Now that I'm bored, now you now come up with, you start spicing up. Yeah. How you spice up depends. You know your man very well, you know what he wants. What do you mean by spicing up? Spicing up. Spicing up. I didn't have the ball paid on me. But the sport's in glory. Sports is an issue. Just finish, finish. So, space it up. First thing I see is the body is endowed, yes. I'm used to that body endowed, but now I see it as EDF. We don't want a woman who puts on the same thing every single day. Space it up. Men get bodied. That's why we sample. You get men sampling. Is that cheating? That's cheating. It's sampling. It's sampling. To get what you want. That's cheating. To me, I'll be a bit fair to that agenda, that is the women. And I think it was very choosing his words. A very good way that they change. They cannot really put them in a sign point and say, this is the way they must be. Occasionally, we say it's different. But I believe both of us. I want to believe also them. They have a preference of the kind of men they have. Despite when we talk about the beauties in the eye of the viola. Because by the time you say the beauties in the eye of the viola, you will say the beauties in the eye of the viola. You will say the beauties in the eye of the viola. You will say the beauties in the eye of the viola. But I think... I don't know if things have changed. I don't know what have just changed. But people want good things. We are... So the thing is, work on some things. Like me, I'm an artist. So... I work 50-50. But I don't know what you are talking about. Spicing up. I don't know what to do with a car too. Of course those things happen. I don't know what to do with a car. I don't know what to do with a car. There's a lady. I used to know her since campus. Then I met her a few weeks ago. She had grown big and all that. We had a timing. I'm sorry, the timing. Then I asked her, my friend, what's up? The men who I'm attracted to love this. So I don't see the need of me going to work out. Okay, okay. So things have changed a bit. The men who love that. Love that. But I don't think maybe we love that. Because this guy is us again. The year you are saying, unfortunately, this goes something. The worst thing, by the way, for a woman is... I always believe it's too much traffic. If I tell you something, consider what I've told you. And be easy. Maybe you'll say, hey, I'm not going to work out. If you come to the studio, I'm not going to work out. I'm not going to work out. I'm not going to work out. Don't be too comfortable. Even if he likes something. You know this thing women say, I'm not going to work out. I'm not going to work out. What did you see, that other chick that I don't have? Okay. So when I've seen that thing, because sometimes men, they can tell you something, but when I hint, it will be your honor. A clever lady will know. And if you ask me, if I'm not going to work out, I'm not going to work out. There's a very big percentage that this person is my honor. Now, as men, when we say or we recommend, when we say that we love something, in a particular way, women should not feel as though it is that we are comparing them. No, we don't. How should they take it? Excuse me. You've said, for example, I don't want to go to the hills. I don't want to go to the hills. Yes. No, no, I'm not going to. No, no, I'm not going to. You don't want to go to the hills. I love the hills. I love the hills. I love the hills. I love the hills. I love the hills. I love the hills. How should they receive it? Because you're comparing me with other people. You're cheating on me. I am not them. You come and I don't know. I think, is it that men will live in some balloon fancy kind of world and want everything just to go, okay? I think that's what now can sometimes bore the man. He said something. Spice it up. Yes, spice it up. And it's there, the women who know these things. They will always look bubbly, okay? Because if you're talking about what physical looks, the eyes, we have people that our eyes is everything, then you need to do something. The same way I want to believe even women also want guys who know these things. So as a woman, I think, I believe, we just need to, maybe the talk, the thing about talk, if I'm going to push something and you feel uncomfortable with it, just communicate. Don't go, we don't kiss out. One of the worst things we don't love is when a woman shouts. Because I have an idea, the worst thing to expect is when the day starts being quiet. Now go quiet on that. Before I come to you, about the body, sometimes some women want to impress men, and so they will go for the liposuction, implants, surgeries, you know, they go for different medical expenses to change their physique, because they want to impress, to look, to kill. That's not a matter. I think men should not push women overboard, because the issue is, after some time, these things change and love to tackle the reality. Will you still love the person in that reality? I think the best, the good thing, maybe it's an advice to men, and love her the way she is. Come out of the chicken egg, then move to somebody else, but it's to you, rather than forcing them to pressurize them to do some other things. We are the same people who come back. You know, they are the ones who want to impress you. I tell you, I want to impress you. I wish women just be natural, to wear away. Because the moment you give me a plastic hue and then one day you go back to the factory setting, I love issues. Because men want original. Original. This perspective that women have that men love what they see. Ram. Because you run and you move, you will spice things up. What if I end up spitting up? Spacing up does not mean you increase your body organs. Or alter your body organs. Because you know, there's a guy, friends who love short and slender. How can you, so the most you can do to become slender is working out. I think the problem with some men is that we mislead the women. Not everyone loves light skin. We like to you know men have different preference. Would you want a woman who can change you? Why are you in topical? A woman who can change you? A woman who can change you. A woman who can change you. A woman who can change you. A woman who can change you. You see, you see there's something I always tell ladies. There's a difference between a man calling you when you're boys. I love to ask myself, who is my wife? Who is my mother? Who is my wife? Those are two, the three different things. Ladies, did you get that? See, ladies, we discussed that. Who is my partner? My camera person is a lady. A lady? A lady. There's a difference. The way a man introduces their partner, especially your absence, not when they are there, but when you're with your wife. And maybe this person is calling the wife, but you don't exactly have a wife. But you call her wife because they are qualities. That means in our world, we have that other portion that someone will come in and change us. But it all depends to what extent. And how do you do it? I talked about a charm. That you should know, how do I change this guy? Because of course, when she comes to your life, every man knows that she is a woman. How do I change? What stresses women is wanting to change a man? To what perspective? To what? That doesn't matter. To any level. If you want to change a woman, you have to change and change to a woman with a T-shirt. Yes, yes. That is acceptable. That is acceptable. But things pertaining, personality and your friends, especially your best friends who have been there through thick and thin with you, that is not something that men take lightly. Because what women do nowadays is they want to keep you faster or easier. They start chasing your friends. Because boys, we don't like sharing our stress with our ladies. This other one, they can chase some other friends. You know what I mean? Sometimes men are blind. Sometimes men are blind. There are good women who can box you poor. They can say, come on, come on, come on. So you have a group of women that you don't like. I think you, if you work with Ram, there is a way that you think. But every time you meet a girl, you look at her face. She is a girl. She is a girl. I think I will be open. I will listen to the wisdom. Because if I am saying that a good wife comes from God, she can say, I am a messenger to God. Maybe God has just brought her to push some things away from me. Because it is a stage. The first stage when I was alone, then this is a stage that I believe will come in the form of a woman. Let me tell you. As a man, we were also told we are the head of the family. I believe certain decisions and green light and whatever, the limelight. We are supposed to see things from our own perspective. If you see that, as in if you are, naturally you can see that hanging out with certain friends is not helping me in any way. Not necessarily when financially, they are just draining me. Personally, you can let go of your friends without even your lady or your wife or your family. You are good. You are good. There are some girls that work and they must be pushed by some people. I have very few friends. Filtering them is very easy. There are very few friends. There are three. There are three. Two are friends. Two are confused. Workmates, colleagues, partners to be friends. Those are not friends. These are partners. These are partners. What if your wife tells you Dan, who is she? Who is she? I will tell you. I will tell you. I will listen. But the problem is I will tell you. You end up having an argument. What do you wish they do? One, I will partner with my friends. So I am saying we always want men love planning. And how did we come from point A to point six or ten? Women come in with some other idea and we make and cut away. And when you want there is a reasoning. If you are a reasonable person you will be asking why do you want this. You cut off with them exactly. I don't like your best friend. I will say men want guys who reason. Who is reasonable. Sometimes the only worse thing is first of all first of all it makes sense but first of all the thing is appreciate where I am coming from and then I can solve. The worst thing a man wants to see is everything I say or an idea the way you found me the first thing I will pass. The first day I will go home and I will change the house. I will clean the house and I will clean the house. For me I love that. I am a typical senior bachelor senior bachelor so I love that. When I already come to the house that's perfect for me because you know I believe the house for me I normally get the house at ten but eight or six so that house is not mine so when a lady comes in that house you do whatever you want. You know for a bachelor senior bachelor wherever you are staying alone is very funny because you know you just disorganize you just disorganize one day you will come home and you will see a big space wherever you are for me it's not to me I am very keen on the house I don't know if the lady comes so you can ask her but you know my dad RIP right now I told me that one of the things you must expect I know I am very keen on everything this is here you are an organized I try a lot but I think maybe there is somebody in that house but I am seeing it doesn't work you know there is this perception of women think that all men are just disorganized some of us are organized and so because of my dad I accepted that now when they come in I will let go because the moment I say that I will let go but if it was the first part of me before my dad why do you want to come and change everything I love this photo when it's there so just leave it there if you are a designer and you have a color and you have a match color let me tell you if you just say something I will tell you and I will tell you do not be big personally I am an IT guy so matters electronics with my laptop don't touch that if I put my laptop there there is a reason why I put it there we are personal with electronics live my electronics everything else you can always stamp with I don't know if it's for most men the men in the studio I don't know if it's for most men when they come in when they come in when they come in there is a time that time I was dating I think my girlfriend had gone somewhere she came back after 2 weeks and found the house is clean then she asked me why is it clean why is it clean because it doesn't clean she said why is it clean she said why is it clean I am not supposed to clean there is a wrong perception that women have at times we are so busy to even cater for the house but now when you get time the time that you give yourself off as soon as you are in the house you don't want a dirty place I think also I don't want a dirty place I am in the house now I am in the house I have free spirits I am here those things boy things I am here by this sometimes I have socks I am here by the way I am here by the way I am here I am in the house I am here by the way I am here by the way I am here by the way I am in the house and every single day And then you end up actually putting on the wrong socks that don't match. Now this is what now sometimes brings wars. And for men like Klaumimi, a free spirit person, is that come who may come, no one can put a pearl in. There's something usually, the devil is between her and a place. The devil can use those shoes towards the goal because of a shoe. Just take them. He'll have the opportunity to just take them. Place them? Right place. It's not something to do with me. But then you're like, who's coming here? I can't believe it. Kindly, I messed up. But as a man you want to take your wife away from your socks. I'd say that because the woman is the baby. We measure on the majors. When you come in socks, They have bigger things like the socks, bigger things, the women and God bless them, they measure on minus, minus socks. But it's good to tell them, but the way you're going to do it matters so much. You'll help me to be able to love you more. There is this thing, I want to stretch on this. Before we take a break, we're taking how many minutes to do more? It's easy. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We have to take a break. Oh, but when we'll be back, I want to talk about settling down. What do men wish women knew when it comes to settling down? If you're going to date someone next week or summer and then try to move in. You're a topic with a sensitive side. Ah, women. Let's see, let's see. We'll see. I don't know if you're going to be able to move in. Actually, do you know the moving polyp alle? Yes, yes. The next time you come to my home, I'll say, I don't want to come home. I don't want to come home. Keep talking. Keep talking to us. The hashtag is part of Sean Twitter at Ramaguku. Go to Facebook, drop in your comments. After this we will be back to sample a few of your videos. Remember, we asked our viewers to send in clips of themselves giving their thoughts in regards to this man. What do you wish we may new? Let's take that break and we'll be back in a bit. And this is Power Talk. Why 254? Imagine. This is Power Talk. As always, it is a pleasure. If at all you're just joining us, well just in time for the next conversation, actually the second part of today's conversation is all about understanding what men wish we may new. In the boys club Leo, I'm with Aliyua, I'm with Dan. It's an interesting conversation today in the studio. Things men wish we may new. And may or may I, when I end up complaining, Okay, we are being unfair. But anyway, engage with us. That's like a Power Talk show at Ramaguku. At Y254 channel is where you can find us. Head over to Facebook. We've posted a question on our Facebook page. That is at Y254. Drop in your comment on the comment section below. And we shall sample your feedback as we continue. But I want to give a special shout out to those who are tuning in already. As we proceed with this conversation, I'm seeing a comment by Sami. We should be talking about not women in general, but as opposed to we should be talking about couples. Where are you from? Sami. Oh, Sami. I'm from Kuji. I'm a lowly laser. And I'm at the ref. I'm from the village. I wish someone would tell our ladies we also get emotionally broken. That when we smile to assure them it will be well, when we know so well to make a wall. That we are not as strong emotionally. As you think. And see who crave assurance hugs. One woman who doesn't know if she is a couple or a saint is a member of a family. And she says he is the only man in her life who doesn't want to be satisfied. Home. What man? Wish we made a new home. I'm from the village. What? I'm from the village. Let me tell you. Serious? I'm coming now from a point of senior bachelor. Senior bachelor. Who is number one? Senior bachelor is in the house. Assured else should come from you. Assured else should come from you first. You assure yourself? Yes. I assure myself that even though I'm not so sure about my clothing. But I think I look good. I think if I go to rum show. If I go to rum show. As a man where would you pay a day? Yes. First. First. First. That women by the time they are giving you that compliment. It's just a compliment. But first within you you are satisfied. That whatever you're doing is perfect. That is a man. That's a man. We were born. We appreciate ourselves before things happen. Okay. Even I'm sorry but I told somebody. I'm sorry. He didn't take it well. I told I told. Why? Why? Because in Mambia you know. The ladies they were brought in as helpers. Okay. That means that I was ready there. Okay. I was ready there. That's idea. You are in existence. Exactly. So you need to appreciate. But there is this thing that Loli said. Which is so true. You know women. Many of them believe it's only them to be appreciated. True. If you don't appreciate a woman I'm telling you. Women live that well. The more you appreciate her the more she blossoms and. Build her esteem. But the thing is also as a man. You need it. In a way you need it. We are just human. We are just human. See my mom flying to what he only. We are just human. I appreciate. Like just the way we were starting this guy was just. Walked in. I met her at Kuhasul. I got a job. I appreciate your effort. The guy that I'm talking about. Mambia. And I appreciate that appreciation we need it. I think may come from a toxic. A masculinity. I know. You know. As I started. As I started. Show me is in our community is very. Is prime. I think it's like. Women are strong. I don't know if it's done. Then it's assumed about. But I met another look. When you TV. Very silly. But we were really one of them. Life may be very easy. Because they attack you and appreciate. Imagine. Attack you. I don't appreciate. Of course I don't. I don't appreciate. Because you make her easy. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. Let me tell you. If. Number one. Depression does it comes when number one you're not satisfied without you do. It doesn't come because that you are being complimented by other people. Number one. If you feel like. If you feel like. The hustle that I'm doing. Even if it's not paying off. Eventually it will pay off. You will not fall into depression. Because number one you feel you're focused. Anyway. We shall continue sampling your feedback. Keep commenting. Keep texting. Find us on Facebook. The hashtag is part of show on Twitter. And show that you participate with us with Facebook when we take FYE4 and drop in your comments. I want us to go to that thing that we will send before we wait on that break. Settling down. I've never been a victim. I've never been a victim. I've never been a victim. Because they are, they are planning my life so that maybe I become a bachelor. I think they are bachelor for long. So if, for, for... I don't encourage the drama. No, you don't encourage. What do you wish women knew about this thing of settling down? About the process? How fast or slow it should be? I'm only sacred. Then I'm going to be a Christian. Number one, women should understand that don't force men to settle with you. Don't force it. It's a tradition that always comes every time. Maybe after two weeks, after one month, after two days. What are we? See, I mean, I don't know anything. After two weeks? After two weeks, I don't know anything. Number one, women should understand that by the time we met, we were friends, I believe. Even if you're not friends, we started by acquaintance. I know you. You're in my class and then we escalated to become friends. Now the process of moving from being friends to now you being my girlfriend or my spouse takes time. At times you can take three months. At times you can take four years. I know people who married after ten years of dating. Brother. Ten years of dating. Ten years. Ten years of dating, Ram. Ten years. They're happily married. They have kids. They're happy. But you see them, it's ten years. So never force a man to settle. Yes, we are planners. When they have a brush, they have a towel and a towel, it will not make that man settle with you. Ten years. Ten years. You think president will say yes. Yes, yes. Stop. You have to say yes. You have to say yes. Because we are planners. We plan ourselves. Men. Staff. We plan ourselves. We plan ourselves. But the worst thing we hate is for somebody to fix their plan to a plan. We'll know when exactly to fix it. Sometimes it might take a bit longer. Kindly just be patient. One guy is patient. Because you force things and then we get into it. That's why we have this thing that guys end up clashing. I didn't put you in that corner. How fast should we get cozy with our partners? And when it comes to moving in, how fast should it be? It depends Ram. Because it depends on how you work. Because a man, if he doesn't want to work, he'll do it later. It's very different from men to men. Because men vary. Early over here maybe we'll want a lady to move in after two days. Personally, maybe I'll want a lady to move in when I want her to move in. Okay. It's very simple, when I want her to move in. Not when she wants to move in. When I want her to move in. And some of us, they process. You have to go to the church and laugh at you. Because he moving in here, for some they only move in after marriage. Yes. For some men they believe that he will move in before marriage. Yes. Some policemen lie on that category of moving in after marriage. After things have been done officially. Okay. Because maybe we go for that marriage in terms of wedding. But there's some things I did. Because we have an ego. There's a process that is like it was told in us. This other one that is forced. Sometime, How will I explain? Because a man wants to explain his world. I want to explain how you came in. We take time so that you can come in. I can explain you. But the worst thing is when you fix yourself. And I cannot explain who you are. There was nothing. How it all happened? The worst thing is now ladies feel like if I introduce it to all my friends. Now officially you can settle in with me. That's very wrong. You forced me to introduce it to your friends for what? My friends are my friends. When I want you to meet my friends, I let you know. And then we know. You also forced me to take you to family functions. Yes. When I want you to come, you will come. When we say you are so precious. We know when we want you to. Maybe you don't want to. Maybe you don't want to. You are choosing on your words there. Some men can be very slow. It's okay. That's what you are thinking. You are very slow. Watch out who is slow. Because you know. He is slow. Watch out. He is in call. He is in call. Not everyone is the same. But there is no doubt. Because you have been together. You have never proposed. I will propose. It's okay. We are talking about what men wish we men knew. We are talking about what men wish we men knew. We are talking about what men wish we men knew. She doesn't understand when you will propose. She doesn't understand when you will propose. I am a competitor in the left-right centre. I have never seen a picture from Facebook. I am looking for patience. Be patient. Are you patient? Most women are not patient. You are talking about two weeks and you want to move in. Two weeks and who are we? The problem is. They get to your pressure. They have friends who are dating. And then they have moved into their boyfriends. So they are like babes. My friend also has moved into his boyfriends. Not about us. Not about us. You are not escalating this thing to moving in. Your pressure kills a lot of relationships. And if you are not keen, the worst thing usually happens. You are forcing something. And maybe you are not so prepared for it. You are not coming to burst. It bursts out and then things don't work. So this thing of peer pressure should not be involved in the moment. You want to go for a serious relationship at the end of the day. I understand. You want to allow those other things too? I want us to hear what people are saying. We have to send in a clip of themselves. And give their thoughts on this. What will be their clip. So see you tomorrow. See you tomorrow. Okay. Okay. So let's get to see what people said. What? Men wish women knew about men. Men are small boys. Women are small boys. So the minute the ladies realize that it's when they begin treating men like they are small boys, they will be real. We also like to be pampered. We like to be... It doesn't have to be one way. Let it be two way and then maybe. Just maybe. Everything will be so small. Okay. You men should know this. A man doesn't own everything. He's not a big man. He's a big man. He's a big man. He's a big man. He's not a big man. He's not a big man. He's not a big man. He's not a big man. He's not a big man. Cut. Yo! You need to raise your hand. Men wish women should know. Men say, men say, men say, men say, men say, men say, men say, you have to be a man. But deep down, deep down, you have to be a man. You have to be a man. You have to be a man. Hello. My name is Serb. So, about the question, what men wish women should know about men, I would just love to shed some light on that a little. So, men are intimate beings. We have feelings. So this thing that women say, men don't have feelings. It should stop. I mean, we are not trees. We also need to be loved. So women should stop saying that men do not have feelings. Peace out. Hey. Hey. It was emotional. Do you know? Let me give in my own personal view and then I get to see what you're saying. And thank you so much for sending in your clips. Remember to keep commenting, to tell her Facebook in just a few minutes. Okay. Okay. I don't know about that, but me, me. Okay. Just, okay, I have feelings, but See you. See you. See you. Thank you. Thank you. And he said men are small boys. No, no, no. Men are warriors. Men are warriors. Two men are warriors. We are born to conquer. We are warriors. Seeing that men are small boys, I don't know what exactly. No, men are small boys. We are warriors. Unless he means that we are boys in every man. Of course, we are boys to death. I don't know what exactly, but I know that he is a boy. I know that he is a boy, but not a boy. I don't know if he is a boy. I don't know. He is a boy. He is a boy. Daddy. Daddy. No, no, no. But I think the guy was just trying to say that we are emotional beings. We also feel hearts. And as I said some time back, there is also the need of just being appreciated. But maybe it's got some extent. Because you just need to leave me to be a man. There is an ego in a man that should never be lowered to some degree. No, no, no. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Those are men. Now, as a man, are you okay with being given financial support? Yes. Yes. Because I'll give you from the angle of a business person. Number one, business is very hard. Because business, you'll make a killing this month. Next month, you'll make nothing. In business also, if you interact with governments and all that, you'll get at some point your accounts are frozen. Not because you've done anything, you'll just want documentation. Documentation, yes. So if you get in that point, it means you don't have any cash. So you're okay if a woman tells you, Dan, you're going to pay for your daughter, and you're going to pay for her, and you're going to pay for her. Not always. Because when I go, there's a time I went with a friend to have some lunch and all that. Then she removed ATM card to pay. I was like, what are you doing? I'm the one who called you here. She's the ATM card. Like me? Then you should have been okay with her paying the bills. I'm the one who called out. If she invoked me. It doesn't matter who called out. The thing is, when I'm here, I'll have financial boost. If you're my girlfriend, yes. If you're my girlfriend, now that I've escalated to now becoming almost becoming a spouse, that's fine. Because most of the things I do, you understand. Perfect. That's even perfect. I don't have an issue. I don't have an issue. Most of the things I do, I don't have an issue. But of course, one thing, as I walk, there's something he said that you're a man. You're a man. I think you're disputing the thing about being appreciated. You need to appreciate yourself. To me, I believe I was born a man. I was born a provider. If things worked well, I need to have victims. I need to be settling those bills. It's my bit. But if you come in and do it, I won't feel bad. As I said, come to my house. I don't want to think about 30s, those ratios, I don't want them. Let's just use our common sense. Do it if you can. Wow. I forgot you did it. That's life. We came to the hotel and told me let me pay. But don't pay, don't become an issue. And now tomorrow we're discussing the general world. You know, from the chauvelistic side also I've seen my parents argue about that. My mum contributed over some things. In the future. In the future? In the future? He's going to kill me. He's going to kill me. We have to accept that he's taking over the future and he's going to kill me. He's going to kill me. If we do it gracefully unconditionally. I'm going to sue you because you bought me and now everybody will know. Unconditionally. Most men don't like financial support because what you need to do. Let me give you, personally I don't like it. It's a bad thing. out. No matter who called who, I will pay. Thank you. That is me. I find it funny when I want to pay for my bills. No, once now I'll get treated. And one mistake if any man does, because you asked me, I'll pay. I'll pay. But because you asked me, I'll pay. I have a friend who is planning to buy the wife a car. So he told the wife, if I buy this car, I'll go and get treated. You know what problem that I see existing in the current world is that someone... When people are starting off, another has a visual, you know, humble beginnings, weak beginnings. And we don't aspire in such days. But now we have time and I think I'm a gombana. I made you who you are. Perfect. That one comes a lot. And that's why there have been issues when people are divorcing, now properties start. But the good thing about our society and women should understand is they go and read marriage act. I think it's 2018. It implies that our properties when we are officially married. Yeah. There was a time I had this particular conversation on divorce and it was with a lawyer and he was saying that for properties it is anything that I had before I met you. It's mine. It's mine. And then funny thing, now after we made it official, now those things that we acquired after we got official is now ours. Now the problem is what the constitution did, not the constitution. There was a ruling that was made I think on the high court. It now came up with something that we both have to prove how we contributed. Contribute with this. So even the sharing will come from that angle. You'll show okay, this value is worth 100 million. I contributed 20 million. So we're getting 20%. You're getting 20%. And most ladies don't understand that because now I've seen marriages, people are getting into marriages because of properties. They need to understand number one, marriage act is catering for men out here. So maybe if you're looking at maybe a rich person, a rich man or something and then bump into this person, just know that whatever you see, whatever you got when you met me, all that is mine. Also on this issue of kids, this issue of kids, I think there's a friend who went one and now the court what nowadays is doing is we're contributing 50-50 hotel support. I want us to trust on this. To arguments and fights. What men wish women knew about arguing? And then you're like, I wish you knew how I would like us to look into this particular issue. When it comes to conflict, what do you think is the handle key? I mean, that's why I go straight to say guys used to read this book. They used to read this book here, Cinderella. Because of charms. You know, the guys don't talk about charms. Because that thing is that this lady should know exactly when to raise issue. Because you know, what I think that men don't love, don't like is that coral thing. Because some time, you know, men don't know how to like pop words. Very many words in there. So if it's an argument, you might find that you are talking a lot. But maybe you have approached it and gotten into it. One issue is sometimes women overthink. You only focus on one thing. Use wisdom when such a beat comes up. Use wisdom. You know, these days, ladies used to go back to their motherly approach. There are some who say that it's because of their children. They say that women are not a part of the party. They say that men are not part of the party. They say that women are not part of the party. They say that women are part of the party. But that's not true. So if they are not part of the party, you can start the conversation. Why this? And be a good listener. Don't be papapapapapap. Because men, you know, you say like, now just men, men to men. You know, we cannot quarrel for a long time. Yeah, we can't. The next thing we need is to be a good listener. To be a good listener. To be a good listener. So in the side of our cheek, what I always say, it's good to add an advice to men. This is a point my dad told me, just be quiet. I'm a loser. Because you never argue that women end and win. You never argue that women end and win. And so if you're just a man, true man, if she starts, just be calm. Be quiet. I'm a loser. Yeah, when she starts complaining. Yeah, just be quiet. I'm a loser. Now the problem is, women like talking. So when now you keep quiet, they feel like you are despising them. Yes, again. That's another problem on its own. You know, you had a problem. Are you trying? Another problem that is escalating now. And I'll come here. I'm talking in your call. You call? I'm in the conversation. I learned a problem, I started. On the Facebook page, I'm Sarah Muridi. Here's the comments. All right. Dianto says appreciating is two way. Dianto says appreciating is two way. It's not venue, it's venue. It's venue. It's venue is shaped. It's shaped. So you sit there and you want me to dress like Ivo. Maybe I'll put a quack. Quack? Elisabeth, I'm sorry. And so men's behaviour in here is sometimes who are complicated. But I guess it's different. Anyway, once you understand your man, you talk what's out. But men can be complicated. Yeah, sometimes we can. I don't know. Mavik, Mavok and Asama. Hi guys, you look fabulous today. I love your talk. Yeah, I agree. You see, even I'm married now. And actually the man married me. We've dated for six years. And by now we have known each other very well. And we are happily staying together. Wait. At you. At you. Yes. What I'll say men. Okay. What men should decide on when to settle with a lady is not to... Hey, hey, see. Anyway, next comment. Number one, you are WhatsApp banner. Brother. Number two, WhatsApp. Go to Facebook. You'll find our number there. A lot of women should know we always got a plan. Yeah, by the way. Hello, I said it. The way you treat her is what you get back. Remember, golden rule is to others. Is to do to others what you would love to be done to you. Behave like a king. And she will definitely do her part. Like a queen. They are about settling. There is a process. Never show desperation in any part of the process. If things were meant to be, they will flow. Just like a queen. They are about settling. There is a process, never show desperation in any part of the process. If things were meant to be, they will flow. Johnny praise and asana let me let them know that we also love and love with everything we've got and we also become emotionally broken. PRCC who are mere. There's this thing I would say. Sinaroya chuma. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ali good sir papa. Is a bongo song. Sinaroya chuma. Sinaroya chuma. I think we can follow somebody. This is Sudeh Ghani. I'm trying to remember the actor. Now, I want us to bring this conversation to a close. But before, to Mali Zia, and then to give our final comment, I want us to touch on yet one perspective here. Introduction to family, friends. Your mom or your parents, yes, they want to introduce each other. But there's a lot of pressure on you. So when will I get introduced to your mother? You're not being serious with me. I want you to take me to your home. I want you to be with me. And you know, there is that pressure that is there that sometimes women can put on the men in the house that are mambadawari, that they are mambadawari lini. You know, and when you want to spend your time you have to put on the lini. You know, such things. How should women look into it? From what angle? As I said, if I want you to introduce it to my mom, it's upon me. She's my mom. So I understand at what point, she'll accept you, at what point you will bond together and moving forward. So don't force men to introduce it to their family or their friends. Let it come from them. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You guys are complicated, I'm telling you Because I think he's not complicated Very true At that point, I think it's at that point when I'll try to bring it to my parents To me, I would say, ladies, what you could be if I told you Yes, that's true I'm just saying The guys who force it They'll say, hey, I'm telling you Why is it like you don't have a place you're coming from I believe strongly Time, that's why we have I don't know if nowadays there are those things The stages of dating There are stages before I pick up Don't force me maybe in a week, two weeks time There are some men, when you're dating You don't worry But if the guy, I don't I don't know Now, due to public demand I have received a few quotes here Whether you agree with them or not is up to you They are not mine They were acquired during the men's conference Disclaimer I have five, one If you don't want to hear the truth about something Don't ask me to tell you the truth Because I'm going to tell you the truth every time Men talk Two, playing hard to get does not work at all Time is a sweet game It's a good game It's a good game It's a good game You don't have a dog You don't have a dog You don't have a dog And you don't have a dog I'm sure we'll see each other again We will come to your place Number three It's okay to make the first move Guys can be shy too Come talk to me instead That's a great area That's a great area You're still searching. Internet builders are here. Number four, I really like to hang out with my friends because I love them. Not because I don't want to spend time with you. Not picking your cold is only that I hate you or something. I'll just give you a busy gift. Number five, we aren't great with hints. Communication is king. Yes, yes. Hints upon me. Hints upon me? Anyway, I'll give you all the hints. I'll give you all the hints. I don't know. I don't know. Thanks guys for coming. Time in Malaysia. Next time, it's all about understanding things men wish women knew. We just know we love you so much. We love them so much. Every woman in our lives, our mothers, our sisters, our wives. Anyway, that was us with the end of this conversation. A repeat of this show comes again tonight at 10 p.m. For those who made this show a success, Ron, Timo, everyone. We want to say thank you so much for being part of this family. My name is Ron Maguko. Keep it Y254. Keep it Power Talk. And I was with earlier. 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