 Okay, good morning, Rowan, and welcome to BC 314, a course on media and technology. We're just learning some practical things, how to make use of media and technology for ministry, and we'll continue our learning today. May I request somebody to please pray with us and we'll get started. Could somebody pray with a class, please? Anyone? Go ahead, Rowan. Father, thank you Lord, thank you for this class that you've blessed us with, where we could come together and learn the things. Father, we pray that you open our minds and help us to think forward and think of the excellent things that you have in store, Lord. We pray that we are open to this learning and put everything to action. We pray that this class will be a blessing to us. We ask this in Jesus' name. Amen. Thank you, Rowan. Last week, we were talking a little bit about websites and how we could use that for our local church or Christian ministry. It's something that people expect. Maybe perhaps we could say, I don't know what the word necessity would be. It would be right to think, but it's something that people do expect. But more than people expecting a church or a ministry to have it, it is a big tool that we can use to serve people. And we can look at it from a local perspective. That means your website, your church website, your ministry website can become a tool to reach people locally in your city. But it doesn't have to just be something for local. It could reach globally, reach people in many places of the world. So you can actually think through your strategy. And of course, you have technical people to do it for you where you could set up your website, set up the content on the website and whatever spiritual content you're producing. And make it available to a large audience. So you can actually take advantage of that and make use of it. Which I would definitely encourage all of us to think about and to do it. As you get ready to start your ministries, your churches or whatever you're doing, you're going to be doing. Think about how you can use this, the idea of a website to serve people locally, but also to reach globally. So let me go back and share the PDF, distribute a few things and then go forward from where we passed last class. So we're talking about websites. You can select your platform, what is referred to as a content management system, set it up very quickly, choose a very meaningful, intelligent, easy to remember domain name, which you can use it in your branding. So one thing we try to do is we try to use our church website, apcw.org. Intentionally we try to use it everywhere, meaning wherever we can. So it reinforces and it helps people remember that. We said very briefly how people reach your particular website. You can have hosting providers. You can find somebody who's not too expensive, maybe in your country, your region. These are just some providers that you can explore. So when you're building a website, think about, think through, what kind of website you want to have, whom are you serving, and therefore what kind of, what do you want to achieve through your website. And like I was saying last time, for us at APC, how we wanted, while of course it is something that we use to inform people locally about our events and things like that, our primary goal was, okay, let's create something that will become a repository, something where it can serve people around the world. The things that we put out, the content that we put out, whether it's books or sermons or devotionals, etc. We wanted to serve people globally. And one of the things we decided was we'll give everything free. We don't, we're not doing this for, to raise resources or raise money. Now, some people may want to raise money through the sale of their content. That's their choice. But we decided not to do it, but just make it a place where people can come. But of course, in order to achieve that, you need to have something what we refer to as search engine optimization. That is you make your website something that ranks high when people search for content that you are offering. And so we just looked at a few examples. And so you can actually create the websites that it becomes globally, it can rank high globally. Of course, in the language you're looking at, for us, we're doing English. So primarily English. So when people search in English, anywhere in the world, we do want to become visible so that they can come and make use of our resources. Our motivation is, hey, let's get this out to people wherever they are. And then, so there are certain things that can be done. Typically we call it search engine optimization. So you use proper keywords and you search engine friendly URLs. And that will help people find your content on when they search, wherever which part of the world they are when they search. Last week, right after the class, we got an email from somebody I think in Zambia. They sent us an email like, hey, we found, I guess I don't know what that person was searching, but he happened to find our book Speak Your Faith and he downloaded it and said, hey, he was blessed by that book and so on. Then we got an email from somebody in Thailand, I think it was some pastor or somebody there. They were searching for something and they landed on some resource that we had and then they were so encouraged or blessed. So they sent an email saying thanking us for it. So that's really nice that people in different parts of the world, you know, whatever they are searching for, they kind of land on the content we offer and then they just, you know, they begin to explore a lot of other things and they use it and so on. So like that. And then, you know, adding your, your, your, your organization to Google's business, which is free, you just have to go to Google.com. So business and list your organization there and then you can put in certain keywords and phrases like what, what your organization is doing. So that when people search for those things like maybe counseling, maybe children's ministry or whatever you're doing, they will find you there and, you know, local business. So that's an added advantage. And this kind of where we stopped. Cross-linking that is link back to your website from other places increases your ranking or all ranking. Now, you know, the thing is with Google, they keep search, they keep changing their algorithms. They keep changing or tweaking and fine tuning how they rank websites, they how they index the pages and rank it. So at one point, this was a big deal. I mean, this was very important, but recently they, you know, they kind of maybe downplaying this part. So they will find, they will tweak their how they want to search and rank pages and all that. So different, you know, so we just have to be in touch with Google's way of ranking so that we can kind of play by the rules, so to speak, right? Get your website listed other places and get it on Google Search Console, right? So you can, you log in with your, you create a Gmail account and log in and you list your website there. You can see how your website is doing. You can submit pages to be indexed. So basically Google searches and indexes the pages, the content so that when people search, they will find you. So it's important to do this. And we have automated our process. So for all our websites, we automatically, there's a process that runs in the background automatically submits our website, our site map basically, on a daily basis to Google Search Console, right? You can automate it or you can do it manually as well. A few other things. Yeah, I'll just, I'll do a little walk through here, but very important. I'll just go from 0.8 to 10. It's important to keep your content updated and growing, right? So one of the big things that makes your website rank high and rank well is obviously the content of your website. You know, what does your website have? So you need to keep the content of your website updated, keep it growing, right? And nowadays it's pretty easy in the sense that, you know, every week you are having, you know, if you're a church, every week you have sermons, every week you have, you know, maybe if you're doing devotional, so you may be doing workshops or conferences, all that. So all that content you can bring into your website and release it through your website. So creating content for your website doesn't have to be a big challenge because anyway, as a church, typically you are actually producing content every week. Sometimes you're doing it every day, right? So you can clearly think through and in a nice way, how can I release the content we are having or we are producing week on week in a very nice way through the website. So keep your website, keep it growing because it's the content that Google is searching through, Google is indexing and it is then ranking things based on, you know, several factors, of course. And if you have a lot of content, you can provide search functionality in your website. So the content management system that you use will have search capabilities. Typically they search by keywords, right? So the keywords that are in your content. Now you can go to an advanced search functionality, which is something, you know, we've been thinking about wanting to do. You can introduce artificial intelligence into your website where now the search becomes more robust. So you can search through the content of all your digital assets, not just the text, but through your PDF, through your videos, through your audio and it can be indexed using specific semantic text. So you can do it and you could even, you know, like what, you know, some of you may know what chat GPT does. It actually gives a very intelligent answer rather than just giving a set of links and go and look it up here. It gives a very meaningful response to the user's interactive. So we can actually do that on our websites where, you know, we could, if somebody says, you know, asks a question. Example, for right now, if you come to our APC-able-to-audio website and search for healing and deliverance, all you're getting is you're getting all the links, you know, here are all the sermons and here are all the PDFs or content that is on that, that has matching keywords, healing and deliverance. Okay, that's good. It's not bad. But what if we're able to do more than that? We're going to give them, you know, read through all the content and give them a very meaningful response. What is healing? How do you go through it? And here are the, you know, out of all the hundreds of things that are there on healing and deliverance in this website, these are the things that you can get started with, you know, that would be a very meaningful response to the user, which can be done these days with the technology available. We can do it. So that's something we're also thinking about. You know, it'll be beautiful to do that. And people come and ask, it's a very meaningful interaction. But at a very basic level, there should be some sort of search functionality. And then, of course, you can group your content in meaningful ways, right? So let me just kind of walk you through some of the things that are going on with our church website so that you kind of get an idea like, you know, these are things you can do. And I'll just, you know, feel free to ask questions. So I'm just going to go ahead and share. So if you go to our church website, sorry, I got some, we take that out there. It's my internet service provider that kind of sometimes checks and gives a wrong message. This shouldn't take so much time here. It's happening. All right, finally it's gone. All right. So just a quick run, walk through your website. So we, you know, you think through very intelligently on what are the main menus you want to have, right? So of course, home, everybody, you know, you need the easy way to get back home to the home page. Now, so we are using a content management system that's called Joomla, right? So that's what we are using. Now, so you have some, you know, landing pages here, some graphics that kind of gives basically, you know, when people, new people search, they come here. What would be the first thing they want to know? They would want to know, you know, they would want to know your church timings, locations. So that's the first thing we just put up here. And as soon as they come here, okay, this is what you're probably looking for. So we show you all of this stuff, information here, right? And then if they are going to scroll down the page, then they'll want to know about the church. So we try to give a quick, you know, give this is what who we are. There's a little video they can watch now in India. We have some, you know, some anti-conversion issues. So we've put up a disclaimer right here so that, you know, people, this is just a legal thing here. Anyway, so we, you know, okay, if you want to know about us, this is who we are. And hopefully they will, they'll be interested. And this church, this website, of course, targeting Christians is not necessarily for, you know, non-Christians as such, but mainly for Christians. So we are using Christian language like family church, gripping center, mission space, and so on. That's okay. Then we put out our Sunday sermon here. Now we do a highlight a five minute summary of that sermon. And this is our full sermon. So this, you know, our team, we tell them, you know, this should be up by Monday or latest by Tuesday. This gets updated every week. Right. So it's very important because if you want to come back and listen to the sermon, this is one place they can come back to. Of course they can go directly to our YouTube channel or church app or several other resources are there. But if they come back, they want to listen to the sermon. They can come back here. And so this is a very quick sermon highlight five minutes summary. There's a full version of the sermon. Then you have the daily devotionals being released here on our website. Of course this goes through our app and it goes through our YouTube channel as well. But here's another place they can come back to and listen to it. And of course they can go back to any previous thing. So, and here's a calendar. Okay. These are the things that are coming up. If people want to, okay, what are the events that are coming up? They can see this here. Then testimonies. Okay. God is at work amongst us. Then we highlight, you know, what about the church do we want to showcase? So, you know, we want them to know, look, we're giving free books. Here are other things that generally they would ask, you know, where are the services happening? Can I watch it online? How do I make my contribution to the church? Or, you know, if I want to get some basic understanding of the Christian faith, or how do I get connected to the church? So things like that, you know. So basically on this homepage, I know it's a very long homepage. Most churches won't do that. But we've intentionally done it because, hey, even if you don't click on any of these other links, if you just scroll down to the homepage, you're going to, a lot of people's questions are going to be answered about, okay, do you have a children's ministry? Do you have a youth ministry, et cetera? You know, so we've intentionally put this homepage long with like it's almost like, okay, here's a full brochure on the homepage, right? Now, many churches won't do that. I understand it. But we have done it intentionally because people just on their phone or on their, you know, on their device will scroll through at least the homepage. You get a full overview. What are the most important things we want you to know about us, right? So that's all on the homepage. And we've intentionally done it that way. Now, if, and remember, usually if it's, if it's somebody comes to the church, they're all looking to come to church, your first impressions matter. All right. If they feel like, yeah, this church has substance, then they will explore further. So at least they're going to scroll through the homepage. So that's your one opportunity or 30 second opportunity to make an impression. And if in that 30 to 50 second that people are giving you, you're able to convey that, hey, we've got stuff for you. It's likely that they will stay. Otherwise, they just scroll away. They just, you know, click away. So keep that in mind as you're planning your church website. You know, usually when people, somebody comes to your church website, people generally these days, they're going to give you 30 seconds, maximum 60 seconds, one minute. And in one minute, you've got to convince them that they should stay and they should explore further. If you lose them in that 30 to 60 seconds, it's gone. They may not come back. Right. So it's almost like saying put your best foot forward. Yeah. Okay. What do you want to tell them in 30 seconds? Or if they're just going to scroll through your homepage, what is it that you want them to see? So that's why we've designed the homepage that way that look. We just want you to know that there is all these things. Please stay on, you know, kind of approach. And we don't, we don't, we don't want them to click around a lot. All they had to do just scroll. Okay. There is stuff in this church that I can, that would be of use to me. So in 30 seconds, even if they just scroll actually takes less than 30 seconds. If they just scroll through the homepage, it leaves a good impression that there is something that that's there for them. So then they'll say, okay, let me explore this church further. Right. Then the connect is, okay, for a person who's looking for a church, what are the things they want? You know, okay, I'm a first time visitor. What should I do? I would love to volunteer in this church. Are there life groups? If I need prayer, I need somebody to reach out to me. What can I do? And other things. So that's the connect part. I want to know more about the church now, you know, we've intentionally put a lot of information out about ourselves. Again, this is something many church websites won't have. We've intentionally put, we've, you know, we've overloaded on the site. And again, all of this is intentional because if there are, there's a mature believer, that believer was looking for a church and they've come to move to the city. They're asking questions. They will ask intelligent questions. You know, they'll ask us who are all part of the team, you know, I want to know something about them. How was, what is the governance behind the church? What is the statement of faith? And how is this church holding itself accountable? You know, what is the membership process? Or, you know, what is that? What is this church actually actually doing? What's a blueprint? How is community? How does discipleship happen? Et cetera. Right. So the reason we've put all these is these are what thinking believers would ask. Right. So we have kept those kind of people in mind as we are providing all this information. Now, a person just randomly looking for a church to attend one off on a Sunday may not ask all these questions. It will probably not go to all these links. But a person was saying, I want to find a home church. I want to settle down in a church for, you know, the next several years of my life. Of course, a thinking believer would ask these questions. What is their statement of faith? Accountability? And how are they managing their money? All of that, those kind of questions. So we've put that information out here. Right. We've tried to, you know, give as much information as to them so they can make an intelligent decision. And these are the quick events that are going on, you know, and then what are all the ministries happening in church? Again, not many churches would do this. They wouldn't list all their ministries, but we've tried to put it up and we try to keep this content. So people say, okay, yeah, this church is having all these things going on. How can I get involved? Who is who the contact people, etc. So we try to make it easy for them. These are resources we are offering our sermon. So here again, I was saying, you know, content is important. So and you organize your content. So, you know, we have the sermons. That means you can go here and, you know, all the sermons. Of course, there is the most recent one is on top and you can go back in time all the way till 2004. You can go back and, you know, so all of that is there. So this is one way of you can scroll down. People can see, okay, these are the things this church has been teaching and preaching over the last years. This is the content and then they can, of course, they can listen to it, download the sermon notes. They can watch or they can download the MP3. They can watch the video. They can take the notes. They can use the PowerPoint presentation, all of that. And I'll show you, you know, one very interesting thing is our sermon page is very busy on usually on Friday and Saturday, because it's highly likely that other pastors and leaders are coming to take, you know, content to use for their Sunday morning service. And we always see a spike in activity here on towards the weekend, which is a good thing. The other thing maybe we've categorized our sermons is in terms of series. So people can come here and all the sermons series that are done are listed here alphabetically, right? So somebody can easily search, you know, if I want a sermon series on something, they can come and they can search here and they can go to that series. And this is updated. As soon as we finish a sermon series, our IT team knows they've got to add it to this list and it just keeps getting added. And it's easy for people to search. And somebody searching for the name of Jesus. They get the sermon series. They can download the book. And here are all the sermons that were preached in that series. So it makes it easy for them to use by series title. Similarly, the daily devotions. This is listed chronologically. This is listed, you know, by the team, the weekly thing. So all of that is listed here. So like this, there are a lot of these resources. I'm not going to go through all. Some of it is still being developed here. Then our books are available in English and a few other languages. They're being translated and missions. So missions we highlight because that's important for us. We want people to be involved in missions and so on. So there's a quick overview of the church website, but a lot of thought is gone into it. Our goal or objective is we want to make it like a resource place. Now, very interesting, very important is you need to analyze what is happening to your website, which we can also do, right? I'll just take you to... Now, there are two ways we can plug in an analytics tool connected to your website. So it's actually monitoring what your website is doing. And also there's Google Analytics. Google also is monitoring what's going on to your website. So you can log in. So we've set this up. We've set up this analytics product, which is actually monitoring what's happening to our website. So you can see what's happening. You're all with me so far? Any questions so far? Okay. So we can see here now in the last 24 hours, there have been 879 visits, last 30 minutes, 24 visits to this website, APCW. So we have multiple websites. We're just looking at this website as of March 1st. There are people who have come from all of these countries in the last 24 hours. So you can see, maybe I can just expand this. So you will see that from all of these countries, people have visited our website. Of course, a majority is from within India. And then you've got people from other parts of the world. This is the last 24 hours. And then you can see which cities they've come from. So a lot of these are India. You've got some from Africa, Middle East, South Africa, Turkey, Middle East, somebody from Jerusalem, somebody from New York, somebody from Thailand. So you can see people are just coming in constantly from different parts of the world, somebody from Philippines, Israel, Pakistan as well. So people from different parts of the world are coming in and they're accessing the website. You can see, again, all of this is in the last 24 hours. Okay, for that 24-hour period, you can see how many downloads and so on. There's a lot of information. You can see, you can look at visitors. You can see which devices were being used, which browser was being used. And then, of course, you can extend your date. You can search in the last week how many people came or you can use a date range. Now you can say, you know, so we can look at the data. We can see, you know, this is what's going on with the website. Bad people are coming. What are they looking at? So now there's a lot more analysis we can do. We are just looking at a very basic analysis of the data. But there's a lot more things we can do. And this can show us, you know, okay, yeah, the content we're using is being useful and so on. This thing is taking a little bit of time here the last week. Oh, this is actually this content week. It's Monday to today's Thursday. I'll be waiting for it to load. You can also see in how much time are people spending. You can go into the details of this particular user. So this person spent 10 minutes. This person spent two minutes. Right. So this was, we don't have too much details here. But you can see people are spending different amounts of time. This person spent an hour and 11 minutes and they downloaded lots of things. They've been looking at our website for quite a bit. You know, so look at this person. He just spent, or this person spent only 58 seconds. So you see, they just come in. They'll look at it. Are they, do they want something? You know, you can see which pages they visited. So they were looking at, I guess, children's church material. So they, you know, so they looked at Gujarati books as well. So, yeah. So you kind of, you get to know, you know, what are the, what are people doing on the website and so on. You can see all of that. Okay. So just a quick look at it now. I'm just not sure why this thing is very slow. It could be my connection here. That's very slow. But anyway, you can, you know, you can look at your data over a time period and see what's happening. So what we usually do is, you know, if you want to know how well we are, how well I've excited is, you know, serving people. We look at it at different time periods. Okay. In, in 2020, what was last year? 2022, you know, we had people from close to 200 countries, like 196 or something or 198, something like that. Countries visit our website. We had, we could say we had so many downloads. I forget the actual number, but something like, I don't know, 60,000 or something. Downloads. So we can see all that data. And so, okay, yeah, that's what actually happened. And then we can see other things as well in how many downloads of our books or sermons, what were the, you know, what, which book had the most downloads. All of that data is possible. Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm not sure why this is not moving quickly. This is just today's thing. Okay. Anyway, so that's just to show you that we can look at the analysis. Let me just quickly take you into the church management system here. And a moment, I just have to just give me a minute. I have to enter that code there. It changes every minute. So, okay. So this is Joomla, right? So this is what our website is built on, right? And there's a content management system, which actually is the back end to our church website. So you're looking at the back end of this. So essentially it's all made of articles, right? So when we want to add a page, we just come and add a new page. So recently I told them, you know, we added a page called answers. We're still working on it. And we'll be putting content there so we can update this. This is where it is. It's pretty easy to, you know, from the back end, you can update. And then there are plug-in components to it. So our sermons are managed in this thing called, in this component called preach it. So new sermons, we added to preach it. Our books are managed here through J downloads. That's the component there. And you can see the downloads. Let me just filter this a bit. Let me choose English. So now we can see how many downloads of this book of a book has taken place over a period of time. So this particular book and these are all PDFs. This book, church and revival was downloaded 6,000 times. And since time, I think it's from the beginning of the year. Let me see. Now since the book was uploaded, right? So from the time it's uploaded, it's been downloaded so many times. So you see, you can see which book is being, yeah. So this one is 11,000 times. This is 15,000 breaking bondages. And so you can see some books are being, of course, they're used a little bit more foundations. This one is God's purpose for your life and so on. So it kind of gives you a good idea of how these books are being downloaded. And the father's love has been downloaded 15,000 times and so on. So praying in tongues, that's downloaded 24,000 times. So it seems like people are very interested in that topic. They've been downloading that quite a bit. So you can see that, okay, this is how these books are being used. Let me see. Preach it might give an overview of the sermons, download. So this is talking to us about telling us, as of now, we have about 3,609 messages, about 490 series and whatever, 300,000, 345 downloads so far, right? So, and this has been over time since we have been using this so on. So it gives you information that, you know, it kind of gives you a sense of what's happening through your website and how effective your work is, right? So overall, you know, you're having a website here, you're putting out content, you can actually reach the globally, right? Like I said, almost 200 people from almost 200 countries are making use of these resources. And that's a good thing for us. I'm very happy that we could serve people through the website and by just making these things available freely. One last thing I want to just point out is, you know, a very useful thing to do is give people an opportunity to sign up to your newsletter, right? So intentionally, at the bottom of every page, we've put a little thing that says you can subscribe, right? So that's one thing. Plus, of course, they can go and click over here and they can subscribe to our newsletter if they wish to. Again, we're not forcing anybody to do it. We are not saying you have to do it if you want to download anything. No, it's just optional, but it's available, right? So the advantage is that you can then inform them of events. You can inform them of books or things that you're making available. You can inform, send them an email, let them know, hey, there's a conference happening. There's a new book, there's a sermon, whatever, you know, so it's proactively informing them and they can always unsubscribe anytime they don't want to keep receiving emails. The other thing we use our website is for events. So for people to sign up for events, just very quickly, let's see now. Okay, these don't have any sign up, but there could be some things that we... All right, so let's look at this kids conference, I think, maybe having a sign up. Yeah, so a kids conference is coming up. It's actually later in April, but we have a sign up sheet, right? So if people want to register for this event, they can enter the details and they can sign up. So in our web, so for people to sign up for an event or a conference, again, we use our website to do that. So this goes straight into our database and our church management system. I'll show that to you a little later. But this is another thing you can use it for. And once you have people's numbers, see, I entered my mobile number, it immediately pulled my details out. So this is actually connected to our church management system, right? So the moment I entered my number, it knew who I was because this page is actually talking to our church management system at the back. And it knows it's my name, my email ID, my address and so on. So that way it makes it easy for people to say, oh yeah, this thing recognizes who I am. Yeah, of course, because we have those details available in our website. Now I know I have exposed my mobile number, but that's okay. It's only our church, only by the college students. So you can do a lot of things like that where you can connect this. So this website actually is actually connected to in the back end also to our church management system where we have details of people who are part of the church. Okay, so let me pause here and see if there are any questions that you want to ask at this time, just about the website and how you can set it up and so on. Okay, I see a question on the chat. Is there an opportunity to receive help from people at APC to develop the website and set up? Abraham, so of course our people are busy, so I don't want to commit their time, but if it's going to be some guidance on, so just send an email to me and I can direct, just let me know what help you need. And I can see if somebody at APC, so I can see if we can give a little bit of their time to help you. Okay, now I don't want to commit saying that they will build your website for you. Obviously they won't be able to do that, they won't have that much time, but they can definitely help you, guide you, answer some questions. Okay, let's quickly take up a few questions, Srikumar, you have a question. Yes, I just want to know the difference between Google Search Console and Google Analytics. So it's just a little bit confusion about what is console is used for and I just want to know, thanks. Okay, so Google Search Console is where, I'll try to show it to you. It's where we submit our websites, the websites that we own, we submit it to Google so that Google will then, what we call it as crawl your website. So it is, it will crawl through your website, through the website. It will index all the pages and it will tell you, it'll give you a report back saying, hey, these pages were indexed. These pages are, you know, there's a problem in these pages, these links are broken. It'll give you information. I'll try to show it to you before we close, right? It'll give you that kind of information. And then that helps pages in your website be indexed with Google, right? So that when people search, they can find it. So for example, in our website, I think there are more than 10,000 pages or something like that. There's something that number, 10, 20,000 pages. Now obviously, we cannot manually submit that number of pages. So what we do is we submit the site map and then Google crawls through everything through all the pages. So that's Google search engine. Google also has an analytics product, which is also connected to our website. That's separate. That's Google analytics. So Google search console, Google analytics. And what I just showed you was a free product called Matamo, which is also an analytics product, which is also connected to our website, which also monitors our website. So basically, there are two products that are monitoring our website, Google analytics, as well as Matamo. And then there is Google search console, which is more for indexing and ranking your website for searches. I hope I explained myself clearly. Yes, sir. I just want to know that there are countries which they are not dependent on Google. So in that case, how we can be able to spread this church thing to those countries, where there are countries which are not using Google at all. So in that country, how can we reach? Thank you, sir. That's an interesting question. So there are countries that they're not open to some of these platforms. So we will have to personally, I haven't thought through a strategy for those. So I don't think I would be able to answer a question well, but you've asked a very good question. And I haven't really, we haven't really thought through on a strategy how to circumvent that. But what we do know is people in those countries actually circumvent the restrictions. Many of them use VPNs. So they use the virtual private network. So they get past those blocks and people are searching. They search on Google or other things. So even though Google say any platform is blocked there, those who want to can come out of those blocks through technology, through using virtual private networks and others. So they would definitely use these larger platforms that are globally available. But how do we go in and penetrate into those countries? Actually, I haven't, we haven't thought through on a strategy for it. So I don't have a good answer for that. Thank you very much. Kennedy says, okay, Kennedy's question. So Kennedy has two questions. Talk about privacy issues. How safe is my personal data or info? Can somebody hack your analytical unit? Okay. So quick answer to Kennedy. So Kennedy, so when you saw me logging in, in many of our cases, we have used two factor authentication. So I'm not saying all, but many. So for example, Joomla, when I was logging the admin, I had to enter a code. That's a two factor authentication. So only somebody who has my phone will be, you know, only if I have my phone, I can actually log in there. So I have my username, password, plus a code that comes in through my authentication app, which changes every minute. So we've secured many of our access to many of our websites through two factor authentication. The data on the other hand, which is managing our church management system, of course, is again, it secures only our certain church staff who have not all our church staff. So a few of our church staff actually have access to that data. So people who are, you know, handling the pastors, pastoral team, or a few people who are doing member care work, caring for members, only they have access to that data. So not everybody, right? And they know that. So that data is not again, it's not available to everybody. It's very restricted access. So people's personal data is kept as securely as possible with us, limited access, only access given only to people who are actually pastoring, caring for the people. And wherever possible we use, I should say almost everywhere we use two factor authentication. So only those who actually have that app on their phone can get into those places. So that's how we secure things. Can somebody hack into our analytical unit? The couple of things. One is any, I mean, people may try and we have had lots of attempts for people to try to hack into, you know, various, our church website or other things. That's been those attempts. Now you will know that if somebody is really trying it, you will have a lot of spoofing. People are just constantly hitting at your website, trying to bring it down. And we've had that happen. We can notice it in, one is of course, Google will notify us, hey, there is this incident or there is something that's been observed on your website. That's not normal. So we get notified, we get notifications. So then we know, hey, now, of course, the other thing, obviously as we, for many of our passwords, we use like 16 character, you know, so it's not an easy password to crack. But then we get notified when there are attempts to do it, to break in. So other attempts, what people are trying to, yeah, people want to disrupt what we're doing. But things are secure and we get notified and take action. Okay. Let me see, what was that? That was Google Search Console. The thing is, so basically you have to go to search.google.com, if you want to get into, slash search console to get into Google Search Console. The only problem now is, I would have to log in as a different user to, you know, to Google. And right now I'm using Classroom. I've logged in as a, as a, with my Bible College credentials. So to log into Google Search Console, I have to log in with the different credentials, but that would mean I would lose my, the current session I have with the Classroom. But anyway, so Srikumar to search console is search.google.com, search, dash console, you get in there, then you log in with the right credentials. And then you can see, yeah, but I may not be able to show it now because then it'll log me out of this Classroom session. Okay. Fine. So I don't want to get too technical on this, but I just want to create an awareness that you have a website, you try to maximize its use. You also try and monitor its usage by, you know, people from around the world. You can track how many things are being downloaded, which, what books are downloaded, what sermons, etc. You can track all that. You could make, you know, make use of that information to know how your resources are being used. You can make improvements. And yeah, so it's good to have to engage people who know these things and, you know, then they can help the church or the ministry really serve the people. So it's such a big blessing these days, you know, you don't need a visa. You know, we're sitting here, but at the same time we administering to people from 200 countries. No visa, no travel, no stress on those matters. People are just coming in and making use of the resources, which is a good thing, you know, and it's able to serve people across the nations. Okay. So let's pause here for today. We'll pick this up tomorrow. Could somebody please close in prayer and we'll dismiss. Somebody pray and we can dismiss. Yeah. Very father, we want to thank you. We want to bless your name. Thank you God for the words of wisdom. Thank you God for enlightening us. Thank you God for showing us the path to God to propagate the Gospel. Thank you God for ABC Bible College and thank you for every student that is listening to the word of God. And so therefore that we're actually know that all that we have lanced to the Lord God, may be used to God to preach the Gospel, may be used to God to bring glory to your name, may be used to God to win souls to your kingdom. We pray, Lord, that this tool, so God that has been shared with us a God, will be tool, so God that will draw souls to your kingdom, that will make men and women boys and girls know who you are and what they represent in you, in the name of Jesus. We thank you Father, we thank you Son and we thank you Holy Spirit. I went next to meet with God, which I have testimonies to share, just because of this knowledge in Jesus name I pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you everyone. Enjoy the rest of your day. God bless you. See you tomorrow. Thank you.