 Well, I hear pee noises. Oh, that's the first thing, really? Oh, shit, my pants. That'll be on the reupload. It wouldn't be on the stream yet, because you got to do all the flimpy flasms with that. It's not too bad. It's not the worst way to start a stream. What is the worst way to start a stream? Welcoming our special guest, Hitler. I feel like that was totally true. Yeah, come on. Yeah, I'd love to interview Hitler. Hitler, I feel like it would be interesting to interview Hitler. Yeah, if all of the crazy members of the Order of the Black Eagle hear this and you currently have access to Hitler, a cryogenically frozen Hitler in the jungles of Argentina, Tina, Argentina, the jungles of Argentina, then pass this note along. I'd love to see if Hitler would want to come on to EFAP. I'm curious to see what Hitler would say about the sequel trilogy. I mean, we could also get Adolf Hitler, the Namibian politician on. Yeah, he's probably a busy man. I feel like he'll be harder to get. Yeah, yeah, what is the president of Namibia really do? I mean, is he the president? I didn't think he was the president, was he? I thought he was the president, right? I thought he won like a local election. He's like a mayor. Well, that's how it starts. Mm-hmm. You just got to warm people up to the idea of Hitler. Did you see the, I saw a post. It was like, what happens when you get hyper, sort of invested in, I guess, balancing? Hitler? Yeah, hyper-invested in Hitler. That works. It said something like, you should be naming kids Hitler, specifically Adolf Hitler, because if I looked at this at the beginning of the stream, by the way, instant demonetization probably. So the idea is if you name some non-minorities Adolf Hitler, it will make employers double-check the name and possibly push them aside, which allows more diverse hiring. So I'm going to be honest. If you name your kid Adolf Hitler for those reasons, kill yourself. Yeah, it's a bit of a weird choice. Yeah. Well, we've got the encouragement to self-harm. We've got Hitler. I think we've started, I think we've started out pretty well. Yeah, and we're definitely live. In, like, some parts of Africa, it's my understanding that Adolf Hitler, or just Hitler, is a fairly common name, not common, but like, you know, it's a name that you just hear around, because in World War II, when white South Africans had to leave to go and fight the war, they started conscripting black South Africans as well, because Hitler was fucking them so hard. And they, a lot of people who were living in the area, didn't really know who Hitler was or what he was doing. And they just knew that they were, that he was fucking up the white South African people who were, you know, the villains of their lives. So they're like, well, I don't know who this Hitler guy is, but he's really annoying these guys I hate. We call my kid Hitler. Oh, no. It's also Trevor Noah. Oh, it's what might be true. Yeah. Seriously, I'm just going to refresh to see if we've been. Well, apparently he had a childhood friend called Hitler. I think we all need a childhood friend called Hitler. You found out that this was an unusual name when in a performance in front of a lot of people who were not part of this culture, if I remember correctly, they were doing a dance number and they cheered on each dancer with their name on now. And when it was Hitler's turn and the guy, this guy is dancing and they're all just going, go Hitler, go Hitler. And the audience doesn't react very well. He, no, no, he ruined, he ruined the name for everybody. I'm not going to say he ruined the mustache. It's understandable that propaganda ruined the mustache for understandable reasons, but I mean, Michael Jordan tried to bring it back, but he was unsuccessful. Damn, not even Michael Jordan to bring it back. Man, if you have not even Michael Jordan, Jordan can bring it back. Michael Jordan. Michael, you're going to know my name is Michael Yogan. I have, I was his birth name. I have a patron called Adolf Hitler and I put him in the credits and I still feel conflicted about a special special thanks Adolf Hitler at the end. Like, well, I can't not put his name. I was going to say, what if it's real name? What if he is from South Africa? Maybe, maybe. Hitler there, you know, Adolf Hitler would want you to make a black person poorer. So everybody wins. Hello, everyone. Welcome to EFAP 116. Yeah, that's right. You were straight. Hey, everyone. EFAP, every frame of pause. That it is. Who here hasn't met each other? Say hello, cast. Hello. Hi. Thanks, Chad. How, how do you do? Hello. Hello. Hello there. Okay. Yeah. Go, you're all used to that. When is it New Year's for you? You're shy. You're shy. Yeah, from the left, capital opinions. He's mutated like corpse of two X film reviewers come into one Christmasy entity. And he's, he's, he's, what is your thing? Would you say you just? I think you summed it up pretty well. There you go. Yeah, you probably understand him fully from that. Then across is Jay, the one who fucking shits on Doctor Who and other things. That's what you know for now, Jay. Yeah. For our video in the works, then it's not that long now people are getting it mad. Then there's John CJ. What do you like to go by these days? Typically is it just John? Just John, John Graham. People call me John CJG. Usually sometimes people call me digital. I'm obsessed with little little figurines. That's, that's how I could summarize channel. Right. I make Arby and the chief. It's a very cringe and blue-pilled series on YouTube. I was talking about a little bit. I used to work for the hit company, machinima.com. Yay. Everybody's favorite media conglomerate. Not a conglomerate, but that's fine. You're gaming and entertainment collide. You probably want to use the word conglomerate. So it makes you sound like a blob like entity. That's horrible. Yeah. It's the conglomerate. Oh, Moller, by the way, you put 116 in the title and it's 117. God damn it. It's John 116. Well, that's you made that mistake because clearly it says 117 as soon as I just hit save idiot. Can't you read next up is me? Hello. And then there's Moriarty. How do you do, sir? Hello. Hi. You, uh, you want to abandon this soon, right? Like Jay, that's what I'm going to be the shortest one here. I'm pretty sure. Yes. You sure? Jay is like 15 minutes. You know, the least, the least here. Oh, the least here. Yeah. I think Jay just proved everyone wrong. Yeah. He did that on purpose because he's a horrible person. Jay. Um, then there's Ruex and then. Hello. Hi, everyone. To the right of rags is Shnadavisti, the soldman, the one who braved episode seven of Manda with us with many assumed that you would be the one to defend it. Shad, I don't, I don't think that ended up happening. Oh, the chat. I'm sorry. Also, people might be like confused. Jay is actually gone now. That was, he was only here for the introduction. Oh, wow. That was it. So I guess I'm not the shortest one here. Jay has been kicked. Um, but what are you going to say, Shad? I think you signed up something. Oh, it's just that. I love that my, my name has become the swordman. I accept it. This is a title I'll happily, happily bear. Longman, swordman, dogman. I'll be in the chiefman. It's hard to generate more names. Come on. Yep. Anakin and Jingle all the way was way better than Gal Gadot. Oh my God. I don't know. I don't know about that. So my issue with Gal Gadot is that. She's just blank and unfeeling and emotionless kind of. She's just sort of, she's, she's like wet bread. As opposed to how you would describe her acting. Whereas Jake Lloyd and Jingle all the way was just flat out bad. He just wasn't good. Gal Gadot just needs someone to tell you how to act. Acting lessons. Gal Gadot is what happens when you just let people continue to be mediocre in their profession because of their beauty. Is that so wrong, Rex? Is that so wrong? Well, it depends. If you want good actresses and films, that is wrong. For the sake of the craft. Sometimes you got to be honest. You got to tell people that maybe their acting is garbage. I've got to step it up. Been editing out. You got to know that you're shit before you can get un-shit. Been editing out coverage of the first Wonder Woman and there have been more and more instances of me just spotting how bad her acting is. It's kind of surprising. But at the same time, charming, you know, she's just making a way to go through 84. Do me a favor in the scene where she's crying. Can you look really closely and try to figure out if those are CGI tears or not? Honestly, I think they might be. No, that was the end of the film. They realized they were about to run out of the budget. They had a guy with little droppers little eye droppers and he just put them on her cheek right before the scene began his little blue and then he'd be off screen. Then they go. Matt, I've been on film sets where the actors trying to cry and they can't as it's so fucking. It's so cringe. That's just why I consider like a bonus, right? So can you crown cues like I can? Oh, actor superpower. They also make a like little menthol sticks that you sort of rub under your eyes and makes you tear up. Yeah, I guess everybody has that one. I think I could I think I can cry on command. I don't normally do it because I'm a fucking Chad Patriot, but if I need to circumstances or that dire and I need to shed manly tears that then turn into bald eagles, I will I will cry. I just think about my career and the fact I play with toys and film it. Their action makes me cry. Yeah, they are action figures in fairness action. They're action figurines. Okay, the collectibles collectible item figurines make some sound feminine. Well, action is before we go figure away from their acting. If anyone wants to like see one of the most perfect examples of Gal Gadot's terrible acting in this film, they need to go to the scene where she's fighting with Steve Trevor about him saying he's a guy and she delivers the line. Why can't I for once have this one thing this one thing? It was amazingly bad. We have the power here. Okay. If you can tell me where that is, I will play it for the audience in the movie. I mean, I could probably find it. Man, I wish it's the scene where they're fighting. They're in her apartment and she's like, why can't I hope for once have this one thing. There's one she's really bad. Why do you hate women so much? Jesus, stop like we're going to get in trouble. You never you never said Chris Pines acting is bad. What's that about? I know, right? I was like, gee, what is going to happen? Well, it's funny because watching both of those clear that Chris Pines is like, oh, he's he's pretty good. He was probably having fun. Oh, yeah. He's having a good time. Gal Gadot seems like a type to take it very seriously. What did you guys think of the scene where she goes over the top out of the trenches? That was stupid. Yeah, we have issues with that too. I'm trying to find any. There's no chance you can get a timestamp. Can you shed? Because I've got the scene. I just don't know which part of it I'm looking for. I mean, I'm tempted actually bring up the movie on my computer, but that means getting some other stuff. So I can access it because I'm a different one. Dang it. I might meet myself and see if I can quickly get I'll be back to see all right because that means I can I can take screenshots and because I have a lot to say more. Well, we only do quick podcasts. I don't know if we can make it might not have time. Yeah, I'll be back. I'll be back. Well, you know, we got so many different topics today that we can check out. I'm I'm chill with just if you guys think we should just start with Wonder Woman, start talking about Wonder Woman, how amazing Wonder Woman. Why not? We can talk about Wonder Woman. I'm happy to talk about Wonder Woman. Should we skip the first one and talk about 84 exclusively? Or should we? I mean, we want to do brief highlights and highlights. Just let everyone know that we thought it sucked. Yeah. If anyone didn't know already, we had a six man party watch breakdown of good old Wonder Woman and there's not much of that movie that I consider functional outside of Steve Trevor. That's about it. He is a person pretty good. We talked about this briefly on that we did a stream yesterday, but Wonder Woman's character is that of like, she is naive about how the world works, which is fine with me. But I think she's absurdly naive and it contradicts a lot of what allows her to be good at other things. She has a lot of access to a lot of information that's like, oh, sweet, you know, this, this, this, this, but you don't know what a watch is. It's like, that's strange. You don't know that walls have been happening throughout human history and the innovations have been happening throughout human history. And yet she just concludes immediately that because Dr. Poison's making a poison that can destroy gas masks that the person who she works for must be Ares. Wow. That's a bit of a leap. And yeah, what she doesn't and doesn't know is really bizarre. Like she's read textbooks on like human reproductive biology says that, but she doesn't know what a watch is. She's very confused about, you know, basics of like human society, what people do and don't do, like, you know, bring a sword in the shield around in public. And then give it away to some random lady they just met, even though she thinks it's the only thing that can kill a God. And of course there to kill. I wouldn't want to be jumping to, we can jump around the movie a bit, but as an audience member, you're like, well, it can't just be Ludendorff is Ares and Ares causes war. That would be lame. And then the movie is like, ah, it's not. You're like, okay, well, yeah, good. Because that would have been stupid. And then you're like, so what's the drama now? It's like, well, Ares, you're like, okay, I guess we can have a boss fight with him. What happens if you kill him? It's like, it ends the war. So you left him in the war. Yeah. Very, very confusing in terms of what the hell the message is trying to be. Yeah. The one series is dead. All of the Germans just they don't want to fight for the preservation of their nation anymore and the Allies, they don't really want to fight much either. You know, it's just they just all stopped fighting and it's all done. It's all solved. The war is over. Yeah. I guess the Germans agreed to lose at that point. I don't know how they work that out. Kind of strange. Yeah, they do this like the sun is rising and things are calming down once Ares is dead. And it's like, so because the film is like, hey, he didn't make them war, but he did give them formulas for gas like, okay, which I find weird by the way. They invented technology before people did. Well, that's the thing with every significant war was he at the at the head of the whoever made the most advanced piece of technology in that particular war. And why didn't he just skip them ahead? Because he gave Dr. Poison the formula apparently like, so why didn't he just fucking skip? Why didn't he just blow everyone up himself? That's a really big question. Yeah, that's the that's a better question for sure. I think they can probably a solid like 36 hours to go around and destroy every yeah, just kill everyone. Yeah, reduce it to rebel. Just the earth is just done. It's over. It's finished. Ares from Greek mythology is a character that needs to stay as an abstraction when you have when you put them like as an actual like dude walking around and then like Wonder Woman kills them. It's like, okay, all human beings are just going to stop fighting each other. Yeah, she killed it with love. Love saved the day. That shit was funny. The lightning laser that pierced his heart. It was made of love. Yes. It's a good message for little girls. I don't know what you're complaining about. And yeah, I guess that's bizarre too. I mean, and we'll talk about it in the Wonder Woman 84, but this is supposed to be like a girl empowerment thing. Some people say, but what bizarre message is it would send to little girls? You know? Yeah, it's kind of like if you got your morals from Batwoman, you'd be like a monstrous horrible person. I watched the first few episodes of that. I laughed my ass off. Well, you might be in luck because Oh, someone in chat. You legend. You posted the exact timestamp that Shad was talking about. So I'm going to I can't. So you guys are going to have to pull up the stream if you want to see this specific clip, but I will play it for the stream. Oh, I'm not missing this. I'm back. I almost had the time to show me their guys. I'll just make sure I get it right. This guy. How about him? This is tough to like I'm going to nail this for copyright too. Okay, here we go. Yeah. Take a look here. See what this is. Ready chat. Here it is. You. Why for once can't I just have this one thing? Steve, this one thing. She doesn't fucking move her eyes or your eyebrows. They stay still. It's usually a mouth is doing it. But I want to find. Oh, yeah. But yeah. From like her from the upper lip up. It's just the same thing like her mouth has to open just so she could speak. But that's kind of just out of biological necessity. Her face moves. That's about it. Her tone of voice is just so like. There's a better line from a Justice League. Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to bring that one up now. There's two from Justice League that are absolutely legendary. They just the mark of a true actor. Give me a sec. When they're in the warehouse. What about resurrecting Superman? Do do do. Countless more. We don't have time for a control. One sec. Yes, but it's necessary. Why because of your. Everyone knows this one. I'm pretty sure Ralph the movie maker made a big highlight of this one. All right. If everyone if you're ready, I'm going to play it right now as well. Countless more. Oh boy. We don't have time for a control group. Is it a risk? Yes, but it's necessary. Why? Because of your guilt. Super. That's yikes. You can tell she was told what to say. What did she say there? I had it muted. Why? Because of your guilt. Okay, I have a theory. I think I've I may have the answer that solves all of this that unriddles this enigma. I think that Gal Gadot can't actually speak English. She has been given all of her lines and she pronounces them phonetically like the Indian dude in Temple of Doom who says you must go to Bangkok Palace that like that, right? I think that's just Gal Gadot. Yeah, she only speaks Hebrew. I have found the other famous line. I will play this one and then we'll just start talking again. Okay. There's three examples chat. That means we're good at what we do. Call out. No. Call out. No. That's like best of the worst movie kind of acting right there. Oh, I'm sure she's a great person. That's great. Just I love whenever she acts. Okay, man, it is a good thing. You're hot. That's someone that bad at acting was able to go so far in Hollywood. That's like, I mean, it also reveals this sad fact you don't need much talent to be successful in Hollywood these days. You just need something else. He has different talents, just not acting, which is strange for an actress, but. Well, you know, we just got done watching Batman and Robin on the Mula channel and Arnie's abilities as an actor are thoroughly engaging. I just wish she was as engaging. Honestly, yeah. They could team up. Are you a fan of twins? The movie twins with him and Danny DeVito? I know I like it. I just haven't seen it in ages. I like you should watch it again. It's a lot of fun. He's on erotically. He's pretty good in that one too. I keep getting twins in junior mixed up. What's junior? He's Arnie's pregnant. Of course. Yeah. I can't remember how it happens if it's like magic or like, I don't know. Okay. I'll be on. Oh, shit. Wrong cover. I lied. I want to do one more. Just one more. I'm fucking screwed up. My stupid fap. This is when her friend and mentor of her entire life is dying. All right. You ready for this? This level of emotion. Just I've got it in slow mo as well. Slightly. Oh, he's still just enjoying her incredible. Quick, don't shoot that one. My guy with a gun. No. No, that's great. You just got to sell it, you know. No. No. No. And this pine rifle has more emotion than her. I just I wouldn't want to understate Chris Pine nails it and T O P and T O P. I'm T O P. It sounds like O P. Who is my aunt? Oh, well, hopefully she's a better actress than Gal Gadot. Good. She almost statistically certainly is. Yeah. It seems like it would be like me. All right. So yeah, I guess we've established she's not very good, which is a great help toward the Wonder Waman films to start with when your pro tag is got poopy acting. But what are you going to do? What else are we talking about with the first Wonder Woman? We're trying to skim over the bigger parts that we can get to the 84. We're just trying to let it be. We weren't fans because because we know there is because we do have a a version of us watching it. That'll come out for EFAT movies. Yep. Soon within the week, probably. Same for 84. Can we agree that we she would be naive to like the nuance of how the Western world operates because she lives on an island and the only thing she would hear about it is like whatever she was told in story books or whatever. But then there's it. But there's an inconsistency in like how she knows that thing about the civilization, but she doesn't know this thing. Yeah, like she should know your own question. Pretty much. Yeah, right. Yeah, like she wouldn't be but she might not be that clued into like traffic laws, you know, but you'll know what a watch is. Right. Yeah. And just it should have been major for her to be like apparently according to this human that's just arrived, there's a war happening right now where loads of people are dying. She makes explicit. She's like men, women and children are dying and it's like, do you know what war is? Like that is really weird that she's saying this and if you want to argue that that is her position, like that is absolutely how she feels that is her position. Like, okay, the second she's talking more and more with the human beings of the world and finding out that there's actually other wars and this has been going on for a long time. She should be like, whoa. This is like a thing that happens often again. Yeah, like humans war a lot and then she's like, well, it must have all been Aries and then it must throw it into question. It's like, so his plan has just been he keeps perpetually like trying to get people to kill each other permanently, but he's just not succeeding. It's like, that's what that's what you think it is. Yeah. You think at the dawn of man, he'd have an easier time of just going around and killing, you know, the ancient Egyptians and the Babylonians. Remember the, remember the explosion he does against her when he when he attacks her whip of truth with lightning. I want to make sure you understand the mechanics of it because I didn't want to get you confused there. So did they ever give a time frame for when Aries was allowed to enact his plan? I have to imagine it's ancient, right? Yeah. So I you'd think that the sooner he could start the easier it would be. Like if it was like, you know, a thousand BC or whatever, when he was able to be free and Zeus was I guess quasi dead because Aries is that just poggers or whatever he'd go around and he'd start just like killing everyone. He'd be like, oh, I better stop them before they ruin the earth. That's the greatest thing I can do at the better. His motivation is just he just doesn't like humans. He thinks like the world is awesome and that humans are ruining it. He's he's all about climate change. He's basically poison Ivy from Batman and Rob. Yeah. Obviously her plan made more sense. Just, you know, just saying is almost weird. It was like, I'm going to wipe off humans really slowly and ineffectually. Also, I'm the reason that they have war, but also not. It's it's a very it's jumbled. What is the message of love beats all my thing? Love, love, love, love, love. That's nice and generic. Yay. Just love. Well, remember Steve says something like you've got to believe in something when she she's like, what's the point if everyone's just evil anyway? And then and then at the end of the film, she says, I believe in love. Yeah, she has that. She turns into like a nihilist really quick. Well, then she says I believe in love and he delivers his very famous and powerful line. I will destroy you. It's particularly effective. Put it on a limestone. That's what he yeah, I would destroy you. Eli is airy son of Zeus. Quotations I will destroy you. There's only one villain that I think was worse than him for dialogue. That's the yellow jacket from Ant-Man. If you guys remember, his dialogue was like, I am going to disintegrate you as they're fighting that he's like, I am going to kill everything you love. Yellow jacket. No. Another bug themed villain. No, I think people argue, though, that he's like partially insane. So there's that. I can't remember if the yellow jacket makes him insane. Like the jacket itself. Oh, yeah. Someone in chat just said he was legit insane. So at least he was fun. It's like, yeah, I think we had dealing with it. It was like a green goblin situation. I can't remember. But yeah, but do you know how much he sacrificed? No, I never lie. I can say it was actually a pretty, uh, pretty fun villain was Pedro Pascal and Wonder Woman 84. Oh, yeah. I guess is there anything else you want to say about Wonder Woman or should we just leave it for when they see our woman was just add our video. Our EFAP video will be out where we manage to combat the incredible boredness of the video. You know, someone I guess I want to highlight is this is what leads us to the Amazonians getting involved in human history, right? Is American who works for Britain goes on secret mission to base where Ludendorff and his men are working on something spooky. He walks into open door, grab secret notebook. Runs away on airplane blows up partial part of the base and then the next we see him is at the border of the Amazonian Shield and literally about 10 minutes behind him are a whole series of German like a German armada somehow. And I don't know. I don't know what like how they could have kept up with him or where the other biplanes would be that would be chasing him. Probably that plenty had must have had a lot of fuel. Yeah. Yeah. No refueling required any any crash lands. And then the Germans discovered that like he's like, whoa, what a crazy world I'm in. And then the Germans like, whoa, this is a crazy world is constant sunlight apparently because it's dark where we are and it's light in there and let Zeus just installed a an out of sync sun system inside the Amazonian bubble either way. They they get in there and they're like, whoa, there's a bunch of cosplayers on an island and then they start shooting them and it's like, why? Why are you shooting them? Fuck women kill them. We're Germans are evil. Women kill those women. We are the patriarchy patriarchy. Do you remember rags that one of the ships are just falling over in the background? Did not see like Bell was laughing his ass off it at the other side. You just see one of their ships is falling over the background. Wait, I didn't even catch that. That's really funny. I don't know if the implication is supposed to be that they hit some like rock, but I'll try and get the the image for you now. But then that whole starting drama that the whole film is based on like in terms of plotline is hilariously stupid. And you just wonder what would have happened if the Germans just arrive and they're like, hey, so what is this place? Why are you people? Clearly, it's Americans. You know, it's not a good sign when like the secret place that no one knows exists has done better in Black Panther than it is in Wonder Woman. Like is it? Well, I mean, I think it is because there's nothing to indicate why no one has discovered it earlier. Like it's what Wakanda. But don't they both have the same kind of bubble thing like magic bubble that you can't see it? Well, the Black Panther one is supposedly in like the middle of a continent and like surrounded by like dense rainforest and everything. And the other one is just in the middle of the Mediterranean, which everyone has been traveling. Oh, it just falls over. It's like slowly falling because, of course, it's gone by the end of this scene. So I don't know if you think that Germans would have sent a whole shit ton of like warships here to like, what happened to that fucking destroyer we sent to chase that plane? Like no one came back. Holy shit. Is there like a British army there or something? Man, we need to go send scouts to investigate something's up over there. And when everyone was getting killed, do you think even one of them was like, OK, we need to leave like get somebody's because they all just arrive on the beach and start having this like full battle. It's so. Yeah, all of these women with bows and arrows are inexplicably beating all of our trained soldiers with modern firearms. We need to like leave, I guess. They clearly have some magic or plot protecting. We need to train. Aren't they super strong though? It doesn't matter. I don't think. Yeah, because it takes one bullet to kill any of them. So that's right. Strength isn't going to do much against a bullet if you're still vulnerable to it. Like you need something else like your arrows are a little better. I guess it's survived bullets like this guy here. Like this woman just made it all the way to the boats and you're just like how how did. It's it's just kind of crazy. This whole thing I was like, oh my God, how are the women ladies alive? Someone in the chat said the island, the location is undisclosed. The island can shift its location over both land and time and remains undetectable. From the land. Was that the film? I don't know it was not. Oh my goodness. And how did Steve Trevor find it? Look, yeah, it was just coincidence. Hey, crash landed, which is it just makes it even more coincidental because the island isn't always there waiting to be discovered. It's phasing out of space and time. We guys do appreciate that. According to Wikipedia. Oh, the Wonder Woman wiki. Yeah, W. W. W. Gal Gadot with a mentor is running to jump onto a shield bounce up and fire three arrows at three people who are about five meters to her back. There's two Germans right in front of it, too. I don't think you see what happens to either look at the one that's aiming right at it. That one's not. Well, I mean, he's they're fine. I'm just happy to see I'm just happy to see somebody in a movie use cover. Oh, maybe she does kill them, right? She surprised them. She jumped right over them. And then of course surprised them. They were staring at her. No, no, they miss. They miss. Oh, they miss when she was running straight at them indeed miss. But the three dudes who were like, they've already just realized she's doing this and then they all get shot down. They go epic scene, by the way. Oh, this is very epic. How does how? How if her bow is angled like that could the arrows? That's fine. Yeah, they just had you can fire three hours at once, right? Well, you can, but it's the power of the bow shot into three separate arrows. So if they're not wearing armor, still probably be lethal. But in terms of measuring the split accurately, yeah, that's going to be really rough. And if she wanted them to split horizontally, she would have need to have held her bow horizontally by holding it on an angle like that. They would have split vertically as well and throwing everything off. Oh, no. Why are you nitpicking? Oh, thank goodness. Chris Pine shot the guy who shot her immediately after those two that were hitting hitting hiding behind the big rock thing. I don't know what happened to them. They didn't show up again. Maybe they were still there. She got shot by arrows. They can like face it. No, the three other three other dudes got shot by arrows. The two I'm talking about behind this rock. I don't know what happened to them. Oh, they died. Oh, no. Yeah, they got killed by spears. I will say when you slow mo it, it's like 10 times as cool. Look at that. So are they super powered like Wonder Woman is? I think so. But remember, they find it shocking that Wonder Woman can heal so fast. They're like, whoa. Yeah. Sort of in between. I'll see their hands be on the rock. The two that are behind the rock. There's actually three. She jumps over the wrong. Oh, that's the perspective. Holy shit. I got that completely wrong. I thought she was firing at a completely because of the angle. What is that guy looking at right there on the left? What the fuck is he looking at? She shoots one guy in the back from the side. Who is this? Oh, my God. Cardo looking motherfucker. My my mind has been blown. I I didn't see it the way she's jumping. I thought there's never going to be enough distance for it clear to be able to shoot anything other than straight down. No, she jumps so far up. Yeah, she she really does. Wow. I I never even registered that logistically. I thought that would be an impossibility so it couldn't have been. All right, fair enough. Can I? We were highlighted all kinds of faces. That's the important part here. Okay, I really hate slow motion like 99% of the time it's based. I think most of the time slow motion is used. It's meant to be like, oh, look how cool this is. Like there are certain circumstances where I can accept it where it's like, OK, it's showing you like the perspective of somebody who has like super speed or whatever and this is how they will also helps for an emotional moment to let you drink it in a bit more than it will probably lasted like if someone gets shot. That's true. Yeah, I don't mind it in those cases. Yes. Maybe they just don't want with those arrow shots before only one might have been an instant kill if it hit his heart. The other ones arrows don't kill people instantly unless it's in like a really vital organ like you can still do a lot with an arrow stuck in you, especially holding the rifle. I just find it funny in films that I mean the only film that actually one of the only ones that come to memory that did it right was Lord of the Rings and borrow me like he tanked heaps and he was still going right. But it's so many other one arrow and they drop instantly like everyone Legolas shoots basically except when he's an insane or a guy wants to blow something up then he doesn't buy but all the other guys dropped with one arrow. Just annoying. Someone asked me to mention is like the surprise is not more coverage over like Aries just killed all the other gods like yep. Yeah. Because he's just he's that baller. It's a fucking crazy legendary but he's the God of Wars like yeah but I still feel like all of the other gods would be able to you know. And Zeus made Diana to kill suit Aries right. But it seems to me that it's less to do with her more to do with her her braces. This sounds like so wait Zeus created Diana to kill Aries eventually as it's described he created the God killer for whenever Aries should rise again and we find out it's not the sword it's actually Diana she is the God killer. Wow. Why didn't she make a man. Why didn't he make a dude. Why why can't he make a woman what's wrong with you. I mean you can but you just think that if you were in all things being you know otherwise equal you'd make a guy who's buffer and stronger I guess well if she can use the power of love to kill maybe it wouldn't be so fucking moody. The the the power if I'm fucking strange about all of it it's just that you'd think like it's more to do with more mechanics than just the power of love slash reflecting his lightning into him with her grieves. I don't understand braces sorry I don't stand how any of that makes any sense but then again I guess a lot of people say that's just that's the third act. Even though it's the whole film. Also Hi CJ. Hello are we talking about women the first wonder women as little as possible jumping over the first woman we're talking about the second wonder women soon enough just covering the wider things that I think about the first woman. So all of so he's kind of like so that Zeus is kind of like Vaat right. Where they make their their contingency for I almost said Highlander Homelander was that they after the fact and much later make a kid to maybe one day kill him potentially there was nothing else they could have done. That was that was their plan. That's what Zeus's plan was. Yeah I mean Zeus that was Zeus's lost breath was spent doing that apparently because yeah he's fucked. Maybe he has a really great clay because that's how the the the Amazonians are made right with clay. Yeah magic clay. No problem with that right. We'll I guess he had the he had the fucking the best dirt and he was saving it for one incredible individual but you think he would have told why didn't he tell like somebody because if she died by accident and they didn't spend a lot of time specifically training her and protecting her then she could have like a boating accident and just like die. Do you remember the part of the film with the spies who aren't supposed to be doing what they're doing standard to take a photo. Oh yeah that's right. Yeah they all take a photo. It's important because seeing this fucking hurts me so much how much there's no care none of these people are characters in like the characters. Yeah they're like these these people aren't people they're the concepts of people maybe like the sniper guy with potential PTSD. He doesn't kill anyone. He never does anything. Well we see him shooting the gun at the end because he's the one who says I'm out of ammo. Remember and it's the sad moment of we've got no more ammo we're done for and then you were like just oh yeah. And the Native American guy he straps a bunch of grenades to his Tomahawk and he throws it and then it explodes on a bridge which accomplishes nothing I don't think but it blows something up. You know it blows a little this yeah right here. He's about to throw his Tomahawk grenade bundle. I don't remember where it is around just some way. There was a CGI in this bit that's really awkward. Yeah I think it was shortly after you have the that scene where they were leaning around the corner. Oh yeah yeah got it here we go and then they move forward. Yeah he throws his grenade in it explodes. That's not how grenades work by the way. That's the kids don't do that. Yeah he strapped a bunch of grenades to a Tomahawk and fucking hell and side arms that shit it sticks into the bridge it doesn't shoot it with a shotgun to set it off. Yeah yeah. Yeah so yeah. Oh. I assumed. I think reasonably that he armed with the grenade before he threw it. So that it would explode without needing to be moments that little bit there there's another one coming up now when she does the group attack where she's just going around. Wonder Woman confuses me like in terms of what her weaknesses are exactly because even in the second movie they're like when she's depowered bullets hurt her it's like bullets hurt her in this movie when she's not depowered so I don't know what what's going on there. Does she even have a weakness like a kryptonite sort of thing. Well she can be hurt. She like a German bullet scrap like a bullet could like go through her skin. Yeah but she just blacks every bullet with those bracers which has always bothered me. She seems to block them without even realizing she's blocking them. She like magnetizes to them. Right in terms of Wonder Woman's weaknesses in the original comic she had a weakness to bondage if you tied her up. Oh no. Well I think everyone has a weakness to that. I mean if you tie anybody up they get weakens them. Yeah. They wreck condo though but I'm pretty sure that was like one of their OG weaknesses. It's a good thing no one's been shooting her. Well this is the thing she kind of sucks and she relies on a lot of luck in her fights of people just not because I think we've pointed this out before but the braces being essentially best car in like we've already talked about Mando's coverage but at least Mando's got covering. You know like we agree like 60 ish percent. Who's is covering walk like five percent 10 15 so 10. Well if it hits her breast plate ish armory area does that stop bullets. I guess so. But I don't think I comment if you see that. I don't know. I'm pretty sure it's only the braces and the lasso apparently. Well in just as Lee you know when that scene where they're all all the civilians are like lined up on a wall and the guys about to shoot them instead of just going for the guy with the gun she runs past all the civilians blocking all the bullets with her braces. I'm so excited to show rags Justice League. He still hasn't seen it. That scene. I watched it for the first time the other day. You're in for a treat. Right. Oh boy I from what I've heard. Oh it must be a must be some magical. I hear so much. I don't think it is worse but it's bad. Use you think one of them in 84 is worse than worse than Justice League. Yeah. Yeah. Oh boy. Well because because I have heard that Wonder Woman the first one is the best of the D. C. E. U. And it was horrible. So I am I am very excited to see what we have in store for me. It's I'm very excited. Yeah. In terms of Wonder Woman's power levels. You're right. It's so damn inconsistent because like if bullets can graze her that means she is has to be vulnerable to some level of damage right. But doesn't she take a headbutt from Superman in Justice League like. Yeah. But you know how you know how women are because they can take headbutt. Like they're so damn inconsistent and 84 Wonder Woman 84 is just that times at a hundred they can't be consistent with with how naive Diana is in the first one and how stupidly she behaves throughout both films. I can believe she has an insanely thick skull. Try to get anything through that head of hers. What else is there the I got some real quick. So at the end of that fight that you're just showing where there's one sniper left in the tower. Right. Oh yes. Our sniper can't get a good shot of him. So what does Wonder Woman do. She destroys the tower. Wait wait wait but before that do you remember how this scene starts or this sequence starts is we think it's all over and then the German sniper just randomly shoots a civilian. Okay. None of the people are like any combatants out there. You wouldn't want to give away your position by shooting some random civilian if their enemy so it's so childish. It's like he's an evil sniper and he's evil. He has to wait his turn as well. He obviously we don't we don't know about him yet but he's like first person you shoot not Wonder Woman not Steve Trevor not any of the enemy soldiers. You look at this. Look at this view. This is perfect. This was his view and he decided to shoot the random civilian. Also all of these train like Steve right he's a trained soldier. You see someone get shot by a sniper. Your instinct is to stand perfectly still where you are in the open looking around for where the shot came from. Like you know as you do well to be fair maybe the sniper was farming for XP. Well he wouldn't oh yes civilians are still they're only worth half as much but man they're just free kills. I mean you can say no to that. You know what you miss is that Germans are inherently evil. Okay. They see an innocent person. It's like oh I got to shoot them and God damn nice shot from Steve as well. I was a pistol back and instead of just someone going up the stairs of the tower to go shoot him or throw a grenade in there or something or you know waiting to get a good shot. They destroyed the church tower. Yeah and everyone at the end of it all the civilians who like live in this town are like oh yeah. Well so this time can we just talk about how exposed the sniper was in that shot. Was it the giant window? Yeah. Yeah. It's and I guess this guy he can shoot him but he just doesn't. Yeah he's got this all the said is PTSD I guess he's just yeah he's just too he can't do it which is prime candidate for bringing along on this mission. The sniper who's he's a really they bank at how he's actually a really good shot even though he's a heavy drinker because you know heritage but he never does anything. He doesn't do anything. This is the whole paying lip service to an idea but it's not anything they didn't make anything of it. In the Indian guy he's got this Kool-Az repeater this lever action that doesn't fucking do anything with that it's just so all of these people are wasted they might as well not be here. I was watching Wonder Woman 84. So this thing is nuts because he's got the courtyard is all the snipers view they all run out there. And by the way they say they say cover cover me I guess and it's like who's cover nobody shoots anything in this point is like who's covering you and how and you're all dead. There's no way. Yeah luckily for the second they pick up. Well Wonder Woman yeah but I'm talking about the the lads here the second they pick up this big steel door thing it gets shot at it's just like oh the sniper just like I guess he waited. Yeah he waited long enough. Yeah. And yeah this is the plan we're going to pick up this big old thing and Wonder Woman is going to bounce off it into the building and it's funny because you might think to yourselves like oh she's going to jump right in through the window and then kill the guy specifically like this problems with that already but no it's much more funny. He jumps and she reaches the room that it just fucking data dates. Even understand clear on how it is look at that shot. Oh she just crushes and you know if there were some people in that church down below I mean hopefully the whole thing doesn't collapse if you know there are people hiding behind the church around the sides of the church getting killed by Relp don't worry about it it's fine we'll chalk it up to collateral we'll say the Germans did it anyone will believe that. No worries. There's like yeah. Five hundred seven year old church community revered and was their center of their community. Yeah fuck it. The most likely you know the punch that one guy. By the way guys I don't know if you knew this but boob armor is problematic I read it from our Anita Sarkeesian apparently it was in regards to Mandalorian I think Shad personally slapped her down on that one he made. His video was shared about her tweets. That's how a million views as well by the way they wanted to know like that's what I'm saying I'm now the patron saint of boob armor and I'm Harold Christmas. Congratulations Shad. There were worse things to be. It's weird because when I first saw the pictures of the lady Lady Lorian's in the show like I saw the armor and I was like yeah that looks yeah that looks like it's comfy looks like it's pretty good. Yes I don't have any issues with that and of course Anita. No displays of femininity are not allowed and so they are and they should be encouraged but not here. Yeah I if women are going to wear armor I think they want boob armor they don't want their boobs fucking mush. Yeah torso that's that seems like I can imagine if I had a big old set of knockers on my chest then I wouldn't want to have them smushed up all the time I'd want to have something that especially in Star Wars land and you have all this stuff like custom made for you you'd want to get your you know your chest measured so that you have armor that gives yourself ample room for your memories. It just seems like it's logical and comfortable and plus it looks cool it looks good. It looks feminine. It looks form fitting. It looks good but it is a bit sex if it looks feminine if it looks remotely feminine. That means its objectification and sexist you failed. I can't decide if Anita is a sex positive or sex negative feminist. It's very confusing. I don't know what she is maybe just it's just it billows in the wind. I don't think her position is consistent. Yes you're right. Yeah. So should we talk I feel like she's I feel like she's like a con artist. She's not a very good artist though. Ten thousand bucks to open a discord. I mean who could say no to that. So this is the scene you know everyone as Fringy mentions in our recordings considered the best scene almost in not only the DCU but possibly in superhero movies it's up there is one of the best scenes ever it's when she crosses no man's land rags what did you think of it. Very silly I think I laughed a bunch I thought it was the dumbest shit ever. Damn like how have you not been riddled with a hundred bullets yet. Well because she has a shield. No it's not on her. No but well like it's on her back but she's facing the friendly people. But wait check out this bullet this will get it. Man that went far. Boom. Also it doesn't drop at all. No in fact it seems to be going up perfectly straight line because bullets are not affected by gravity. Which is pretty cool. Yeah I mean you'd think that yeah you think you'd be really good at sniping with those call of duty bullets that never drop yeah. And of course all of our heroes are really surprised that she's able to do this because wow yes yeah they can join the club. How is it you can be in no man's land for this long and only have two bullets fired at you that is incredible that's what they're actually shocked at not her blocking them. Hang on is there nothing to be said for it being a bit of harmless cinematic wish fulfillment you take something like the World War One which was obviously fucking horrific and terrifying for everybody involved who was actually in the trenches like if the idea that you would actually have a superhero there helping you out and having that moment depicted in the cinematic. Why can't we do it well. And in the whole reason she's hold on how do you do it. Well is it just that it's slow motion or that no you just make it reasonable that she could survive the scenario. She gets it pelted by like a thousand bullets and she just stands there. It's it's it's cartoonish. Yeah. And I could argue it undermines the struggle that this was and watching someone just trance their way through no man's land because they have special braces and a shield is frustrating. Right. I don't remember the whole scene. Does she like she holds her shield up and then there's like a turret that fires at her or something. Well there are many machine guns all fire at her shield and she blocks mortars and just like everything she knocks them aside and they explode next to her and she's fine. Right. Many many Germans are shooting at her multiple machine guns are unloading on her shield and it's like it's cartoonish. Right. I'm not even clear like what is the shield made of is is there a is there is there a Amazonian metal. That is because holy shit is tanking a lot of bullets. Yeah it's never made explicit that it's a special shield. But and these poor like you know I don't know if there's a hot take I don't think it will be with rags at least but like these poor guys they're fighting their side of the war. Unfortunately for you the Brits have a superhero so you get the fuck. While World War One would be the perfect like kind of war slash setting to break Wonder Woman out of her naivety about good and evil whereas like which side's evil is like which side's good. Yeah it's not really it's kind of it's kind of shit you know and that kind of wakes her up and breaks it. No this this film is very goes out of their way to be like yeah the Germans are evil is lame Germans are the bad guys because what's cool about Captain America's arc and Marvel is that he was generated as a pro America icon in the storyline and then as time goes on he's way more about the individuals rather than any groups at all because all this innocence getting torn away film by film. Yeah. Wonder Woman is just an idiot and continues to be one. You're just a big look at this look at how a team just pop up and just walking around God like we don't give a shit the Germans forget about them. I'll shoot them with my shotgun don't worry guys. They also there's this weird aspect where they try and make it so Wonder Woman never explicitly kills any German soldier up until this certain moments we like OK they have to be dead from what you just did but like this whole scene because I was looking at it in the editing out of curiosity. Steve shoots a bunch of them some of the other guys throw grenades the whole line gets cleared and Wonder Woman doesn't like I said explicitly kill any German. She only throws one and breaks a machine gun. I'll show it now because it's really interesting to think about I think they just didn't want to show her kill any of them. Because they you know their people too I guess. Yeah here we go. All right. She runs up to this little like turret area she grabs when pushes him over hits that machine gun and then it's over to the lads shooting them and then she's like Steve we got to go to the next area and it's like wow you cleared it all out nice. Yeah they yeah there you go. She she fucks up that machine gun. She walks around. Yeah I don't know I think you have to take a hell of a lot more care than this when you want to portray like the struggle that was World War One trenches and no man's lad instead of just being like lol she read through whimsical. And also the whole reason that she's doing that is to get because she like heard something randomly from someone about how the Germans were taking slaves. Yeah even though they had this mission to stop the gas from killing everybody is like now guys will see important because I'm cynical I think they threw that in so that we could justify that she's on team good guys and not team obviously evil guys who take slaves like. Oh yeah they take slaves they they they happily just randomly will shoot a civilian standing around. It's yeah the Germans are evil the horrible terrible general with his death gas and Dr. Poison. Okay. All right I get I get okay I get who the bad guys are film I I understand I pick up what you're setting down well can we I'm trying to get the scene now but do you remember the one right is what we were all because she every time she slashes with his sword she's like either hitting guns or breaking guns she's only ever hitting people she's very very Batman I guess you just you'd find it almost impossible that she's not killing any of them but then there's this one dude I'm trying to get to it because it's pretty weird how Aries gave them like gas when he should have been like yeah I'm going to give the artillery it's way more deadly than gas ever was right here we go guys dead. Oh yeah she fucked people up in these cabins in these buildings yeah that dude's even when we were playing when we were watching it I was like yeah that dude's dead that's doing a fucking dead in pieces. But hey he was German it's fine he was German so he wasn't really a person. It was just an evil demon who needed to be killed and almost everything we've talked about so far is in the first two acts of the movie it's almost like we don't even we did talk about well yeah a lot of the third act stuff do we even need to mention that everyone seems to agree that third act is dreadful so yeah it was the controversial opinion if anything is that the first two acts aren't very good either. No. Watching this again brings up what she did with what she did to that stone church when she charged into it yeah that dude's fucking dead. It's funny that they pretend that like no that's fine. No like he didn't stab him so if I blunt from I never killed anyone guys. Like I don't remember this film at all. Chad if you're talking we can't hear you. No no no it's it's just because I'm not wearing headphones. Oh okay. All right just make it sure I see the circles but no noise so yeah. But I know people listening to this like please stop going after what will go after 84 it's like all right we can do that if you guys anything else you guys want to bring up before we move on to the masterpiece. Now there are all will be revealed in our watch of 84 that was captured live on video. Yeah both of them double feature like Mulan that they were both bad this time instead of it being a juxtaposition I'm sorry guys. So yeah I figure if we if we go a little chronological we'll do our best with Wonder Woman 84 but who here is a big old fan of the DC continuity meaning you kept an eye on how this movie fits into the other ones. I know we go there's something that I want to discuss first go for it because I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this so Wonder Woman 84 I got I got a lot to say it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a lot of fun guys and wow all right so overall it was incredibly dumb on and there is a lot to talk about there's but there's one thing one thing more than anything else which is just just I like I'm still in awe and shock that they had this in there and and I'm wondering if like to me it's the biggest thing and I just want to know if anyone else either has picked up on it and if they have if they think it's as big as what I'm thinking it is to me it's like we have a clue okay so let me let me let me just let me post a screenshot here. We get to play. So it's a play guess the issue. It's this is the issue. This is like it's about this. Yeah, I think I think I know where you're going. Oh, dude. Hell yes. Is it a random African dude in the back with this? What is he doing there? It's like I lost these. Where I didn't. Where is the? Oh, it's okay because we need a conversation about this guy because this is amazing. I guess I mean do you want to do we want to do this? Logically or do we want to just jump? Because this is the biggest like thing like the worst possible thing in the movie in my mind. I think we need to discuss this first because this is this is huge. Sure. All right. Yeah. I guess so mechanically I just want to get a contact. Can you pick out with what I'm what I'm where I'm going. So a hundred percent. So there's going to be people listening to this who may not have seen 84. Right. So Steve Trevor, as we were just complimenting from the previous film, he dies at the end of Wonder Woman. And so Wonder Woman 84 is this plot element that is introduced. It's a it's a wishing a monkey's paw essentially in the form of a crystal and unwittingly both Kristen Wiig and Wonder Woman engage in its mechanics and they wish for a thing. Wonder Woman wishes that Steve Trevor comes back. And let's just say this scene starts up with some guy is like, hey, Wonder Woman and says a line that he said from the first film and I feel like that's probably all the context you'll need before Shad may take the reins. Well, what is the origin of this time travel device? All right. This that we might want to do this chronologically because we have to establish. I agree. I just I just want to understand how they travel back in time because I don't get that part. OK. Wait, Shad, are you willing to wait before jumping onto this? I know a huge issue, but I do feel like we have to set up how we got here like it is an issue, right? But I think you guys might be they they do something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm almost certain that we're on your team with this one. I know where you're probably going with it. But of course you still need all of the building blocks so that people properly understand the nature of the problem, you know, OK, OK, I'll try. You can do it. I believe in you. Breathe, believe in you, Shad. We can. Well, there's so many other things to talk about, too, girl, because I was going to say we have to start with the Amazon Olympics. OK, that is where this wonderful film begins. All right. Someone playing skip rope and just I don't even like I'm going to be playing clips from this film but I would be like, oh, my God, my God, I forgot. So yeah, this the idea here for those who are like, what the fuck's happening right now is that they are doing, like I said, Amazonian Olympics sort of. It's like a big old thing where they they compete. Is it one from each like group of people because they seem to represent? Oh, it's it's insane. It's just a bunch of Amazons just like in this weird fucking arena, just like doing thing doing things randomly. Like you have on the left, they're just bouncing on these these ropes up and down and one of them is running up a waterfall and these others are spinning around on the spinny thing. This other one is whipping a thing with her whip and there's just no rhyme or reason. It's like the it's like the lunatics have taken control of the asylum. Yep. It's like it's like someone left a bunch of women in charge basically music by no order. Music by Hans Zimmer soundtrack was annoying in this film. It was. Oh God, I would have to watch the first one again to make sure but it does seem like they've retconned how big this island is that this arena even exists and there seem to be way more Amazonians than there was in the first movie. Did anyone else get that vibe? Well, this was back when there was more of them before the Germans killed them all for the German hill. All her when she was a kid and yeah, but the Germans killed threes of them threes. No, missy Germans. Of course, those pesky Germans. I didn't know Hans Zimmer did the score. That's pretty cool. It's pretty sad, man. Hans Zimmer like I don't know what happened. Most of the choices for the songs in this and the way though, was there any song anyone liked in this? I think there was like it's not just the songs themselves. The use of them. There was music worse than the songs themselves. Yeah, like there was music playing in the party at the Smithsonian that was, you know, just generic 80s. That wasn't too bad. Yeah. Well, they only had they really and I guess sort of a good enough time as any, but for a film that tried to really, especially by the marketing material and the name establish itself as Wonder Woman, but 80s. This really wasn't an 80s movie at all. There was nothing 80s about it. Yeah, there was basically nothing that had anything to do with the 80s in it. Could have been set in any era. It's a stick. They mentioned the cold waters. Dick Suckle. His name is Dick Suckle. Who names their kids Dick Suckle? Dude. It's a last name. You're kind of stuck with it. Yeah, but you didn't have to name them Dick. Richard Suckle. You didn't have to. But you did. Wait, hold on. I found a picture of the abbreviated form of Richard. So that's what rags is referring. Oh, yeah. I yeah, Richard. Yeah. If Dick is short for Richard. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You don't know. I didn't see that. That's great. Suckle Suckle. Suckle is such an unfortunate same name though. I can change it. Change it. You have the power to change your last name. I can do it. Oh, so it's like Sir Richard Suckle. But regarding Han Zimmer, I thought he had sworn off superhero movies. I thought he was done with them after the dark night. It was a superhero movie. Well, he's doing. Oh, right. Of course. He's doing a Lion King too with the Pharrell Williams again. So wait, doesn't count superhero. You're right. Sorry. Does Simba count as a superhero? I think so. I remember him saying he was specifically done with superhero movies. He didn't want to do many. You know, the mistake of making changes. 2020's been hawed on a soul. Wait a second. So is this new Lion King movie? Is it going to be Lion King too, but live action? Or are they going to do their own thing? I imagine they do their own thing, but maybe they'll just do a live action vision of the second Lion King. Yeah. I don't know. They probably change it up only because not as many people remember are going to go. Yeah, exactly. They're not going to go apeshit with the idea of seeing that again. But yes. Kobu, Kiara, Vitani, Nuka. I don't. Oh, what's the evil lioness's name? Zira. I don't know. I don't know. My my sister's watched this all the time when they are little over and over and over so much so that my dad hit away the VHS and just acted like it had gone missing and they must have misplaced it. Because they watched it so fucking much. I have an intimate familiarity with Lion King to Simbus Pride. So you're going to be super pissed when they fail to adapt it properly to live if I never see Lion King to Simbus Pride again. I'll die a happy dog. So yeah, this is a little game going on where they're playing with a ball, I guess, but then all the champions enter the ring. It's exciting. This is what Amazonia has been waiting for happening. The same time. Yeah, they've all got little signs. Oh, look, the two of them down there are hugging. Oh, yeah, they're happy. This is very happy. Everything's great. This is before Germany. But everything's so chill. So have they ever seen men before? I don't know how their world works race. Oh, yeah, they're all women. I forgot. I didn't realize that until you mentioned it. Yeah. You might find it a bit odd that our team consists of one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight fully grown women and then a child. And that's Diana. It's like, wait, why is why? And it's like, well, she's a prodigy. Well, okay, that just totally screws up the continuity of the film. Yeah, yeah, yeah, massively. I was watching this thinking. Hang on. She she she was like she looks younger than when she was allowed to be trained in the first film in this and it's like she sucked at that age. She was getting beaten down by a trainer at now. She's like in this one. She's an amazing prodigy. I was getting beaten down by the trainer when she was like when she was twice this age. Yeah. Yeah, she looks like she's 10. So I just my brain can't accept that she beats all of these insanely buff strong trained adult warriors. They show shots where she's running as fast as them and it's insane. She has to be taking twice as many steps. She's Wonder Woman, you guys. She was an exceptional child. And also that's her mom. She was like, no, you're not allowed to train. You're not allowed to do all this. We got to protect you from the world. But also you can compete in this event. Yes, you wanted to compete in the Olympics. Literally show her in the first movie that she was untrained at an older age getting beaten down. And even when she was older, she was still on an equal level with the other Amazonians because she didn't realize she hadn't accepted or figured out that she was like the whole thing about the first movie was like, you're stronger than what you are. You need to embrace your powers and crap. And so that was even when she was old, she was still at average Amazon. And so this is like the biggest middle finger to continuity. And I get so ticked off when wait, wait, this is the movie's biggest middle finger to come. Like I agree with a sentiment, but you know, I just hate it when movies don't give a crap about the continuity of their own frigging series, the previous their movie. And they're like, that's the one that said you do know she's a magical clay kid though, right? Claykin clay kid, but like why not? I thought you said clay kin like that's an other kin variant. Is that actually I'm dirt. But yeah, the first movies like keep her away from all things relating to this stuff. And when she's clearly like, I want to say like mid to late teens, she's being trained and her mom is like, wow, you've betrayed me by training. Like that's one of the first times she's spotted doing it. Apparently she was doing this when she was like fucking eight years old or something. All right. It's wild. That's stupid. Yeah, I don't like that. I mean, if it was a different director, different writer, maybe, you know, they just forget didn't watch the other one. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably yeah, what it comes down to. Also Shad commentary on their their headwear. Well, if it was just decorative, I was like, OK, yeah, there there's some really dumb, weird decorative even ceremony or headwear in the past. And they're going to say it's some measure of protection. It's like, no. And well, when it comes to using a tiara as like a projectile bouncy weapon, I'll have commented. We come to that. Oh, hold on. Hold off my comments until we get this is the superior format. We won't miss a thing. Can go through it all. Even this ridiculous stadium that was never seen in the first movie. I was thinking, who built that? But look, the Amazons have some pretty large structures, other things, but the population just master architects and builders with magic that can build impossible structures. Like, I think that's the answer to anything that doesn't seem right. It's like magic. You're right. Right. Magic. Yeah. Aries built it before he went nuts. Stated even the like that you can just say, oh, it's magic. Who cares? That actually undermines the main thing that Shad is mad about, but I guess we'll get there and do time. Yes. Because the idea that it's magic means that you didn't have to write it that way. Yes. Yes. Do you guys consider it ideological that a society of only women would create a Coliseum for competitive sports? Like I don't know. It just seems like I don't know. Like it would make more sense if it was like a I don't want to say male centric, but just like what they had knitting contests. Sexism rampant on the EFAP podcast. You think women just argue over knitting? I feel like a society of women wouldn't really gather around and work together to build something like this. Wow. Wow. I'd like to weigh in on this. I think it would depend. I've done a done a bit of trying to research about, you know, cultural practices and and and gender roles and things like that. And there are interesting conditions that you might be able to structure it to justify it because women can be equally as competitive as men, but usually it's in different ways that are structured here by biology, but also society and stuff because women usually in different ways where men are more externally competitive and physically competitive, which leads to that idea that, you know, it would be more common or supposedly more common that men that men would, you know, compete physically and have tournaments and things like that. And that's usually because strong, you know, physically fit men who can beat other men get the chicks more often. And so that's created the competitive side of that. And you'll find that women can be viciously competitive in the realms that get the attention of men in on the inverse. And so women can be savage when it comes to criticizing fashion and how other women look and things like that, because that's almost the realm which over time society and also biology has made them very competitive almost naturally just through upbringing. And so I think there are ways in world building you could justify a way in which women could be physically competitive, but you need to justify it right. And there are a couple very key things that you'd want to work with before, but if you're basing it off normal gender roles based on very common interactions between men and women biologically, well, then yeah, you would run some severe contradiction. Yes, I wasn't trying to say that women are competitive because I agree with what you're saying there. It's just when you have like a coliseum that centered around physical competition, like about physical strength or whatever. But I guess if we're dealing with like when you're dealing with a warrior race of women, it makes more sense. I don't know. I'm I'm curious if you had swapped out all of these Amazons and they were all men and it was just one big brothel. If you because of if they had a society where there was never like external threats, if there was no violence, like if that was just never anything they were they had like would even then would there be this huge emphasis on combat and. You know, warrior ask stuff when they never seem to ever use it in any way. Right. Because they might use it. They seem to practice for war perpetually, but there's never any war. Yeah, but there's never any war. That's the thing because that must be a past time there because the place looks boring as hell. So I guess on the expecting Aries to come back at some point in the future. So they're prepping. They're prepping for that. They were defeated by a group of German soldiers. Damn, almost. The absence of war and conflict in their society kind of explains in the first movie why to wonder woman the concept of war is so foreign. Right. So when she goes into yeah, just weird because the world's just like, oh, why are people fighting each other? But then when we're here in their domain, it's like they're competing in these very physical competitive games with each other. I don't know which can we. Yeah, we never get any. We don't get any sort of explanation as to why they compete in this way when it doesn't seem in any way. Like there are ways to say like all of this is based around combat to some degree. The archery and the horseback riding, so much of it centers around combat. They train with spears and swords and shields and all this stuff. But there's never any war. Right now. Yeah, it's just it's a strange society, but you know, training for the potential of war in the future. If there's no whole society just based around. The warrior society. I just don't understand what the complaint is here. I mean, I guess the complaint is that it's odd that the society would engage in these kinds of competitions in such a they seem to be a race of warrior women who never fight. They're just waiting for the day. Yeah, if there's enough ingraining and conditioning from a young age to be combat focused, you could justify it, even if they don't go to war too often. I think it will common to have ever the trend saying, well, why are we doing this because we never actually fight, but for the larger majority in the society, if there's enough conditioning, they could probably maintain the the overall maybe but there doesn't ever seem to be that it's just this is just what we do. I haven't seen the whole sequence play out. Maybe it's not about like, you know, participants fighting with each other rather than just like a demonstration of strength. Kind of, um, it's very the first portion here reminds me of like a TV show. Um, because it's like American Ninja Warrior. Yeah, you got right. However many there were was at nine. Um, you can choose to either go straight to the rope and climb up to the platform or you can climb to the top of this strange seesaw device and flip yourself around on it to then spring yourself up to the platform, which is kind of like so what you just I'm playing it what you just saw there is just nonsense like physics wise. She's flipping on the thing. Copyright you asshole. I can only play like five second chunks at a time. Um, flipping right down and it's like the angles they're very careful to just you know the power of editing we've talked about it before. So it's a very wonderful charm. She does a back flip as it's flowing back up when she should have been doing a back flip once it hits its highest point right before going back down probably what I'm saying is she starts her back flip and it's going to just hit her back as it goes. Still keeps following her. Um, it looks like she clearly doesn't make it to the platform but then it cuts and she's made it to the platform. You're like, okay. All right. Nice. Good job. And she's ahead now. Um, it seemed like at the beginning of this that they were gearing up to like be in combat or whatever. I mean, if they're just showing off like like what they can do physically like they're not actually in combat. They're just like demonstrating their physical capabilities because they're all like super powered right. So I guess it would make sense to have like a show built around that. It's a hundred percent an exit. Right. The way she flows through that hole. It's it's amazing because it's you got a yeah, it's just we is like it pulls you through uh, we saw it in Batman and Robin as well with Robin jumping onto a ship. He just gets moved in midair forward because he's not got the momentum right. Did they put that hole in just for her? Oh, it seems like other people can get through it. Someone else does as well. Oh, okay. No, see that one has a little inner ring to make it a little smaller just for a kid. And the other ones are slightly bigger for some reason. If you look at him really closely. She has a child sized hole. Yeah, exactly. Oh, lucky. Can we just comment on like what she is doing is insanely talented and physically impressive. Right. Like they show impressive. I thought you were going for another word that started with I am P. Practical. That's right. I was about to say impossible. Possible. It's just like it's it's so jarring seeing her so insanely talented at this age when like again, the last film she sucked at that when she was young is right. It's okay, Shad. Continuity is overrated. Oh, yeah, this is the first instance of there is a fight element here. So one of them pushes another one off the platform, I guess to defeat. I guess I think they were both going for the same one and she knew it. So I don't even know if like one of them had to win. I guess. Oh, maybe. Yeah. Maybe it wasn't done. I didn't know that was a fight that was just we're going to collide and one of them got knocked off. Yeah. You know what? It doesn't seem that deliberate. It's just like rip down your go. Even though the goal is to jump into the ocean, right? So if she can just swim, you might be able to make it won't be as fast as contest are very undefined is like you have to stay on the horse. But yeah. And then we get to the big strange part portion where they jump on this Tomb Raider one with Angelina Jolie ask battering Ram. Does anyone know the reference I'm going with on that one? Yes, I do. The it's very reminiscent even though it shouldn't be. But it looks like it's it's so confusing to register this as a viewer. You're like is the goal here to swing as hard as you can on that thing and only the amount of people can get on to it get onto it. And then it's like, oh wait, it looks like they kind of Oh God, it's going to attack her if she's not careful. She's going to like other people are jumping on to it. It's like this seems to be what you're supposed to do. And then you might think, oh, is it to get to the big ring? Yeah, I thought it was a jump through the ring. And so like that makes sense. But then how it jumps off and you're like, oh, so she's lost and you're like, no, that was what you're supposed to do. It's like, so what's the point of the battering Ram? Who needs the battering Ram? And then after this, oh, it gets even dumber. This is so dumb. Yeah, because they all dive in after you and it turns out now she's just at the front. She's winning. And you're like, okay. That's which means that the first woman who jumped onto the battery and could have just not swung it. Yeah, just jumped into the ocean off into the water. But no, you can't do that. Then you get to the the beach where I guess you had to Jesus Christ. How far did they swim? Just looking now like you can't even see the structure. Everyone in the arena is just waiting five hours until I get there. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It was like, OK, but who's watching this? There's not even any people watching. Yeah, you have all of this room in this massive arena for you to have all of these really cool competitions and things and most of it's just it's it's this weird fucked up modern art display in the middle of it that people jump over the top of. And I'm like, man, yeah, if I hope I didn't pay money for this and imagine being the one that's to clean it to go around and like scrub. Maybe they have a jet pack easy then see it now begins the second portion, which is to ride your horse all the way around back to the original structure while shooting arrows into targets. And apparently if you hop off the horse and go somewhere, which technically would be harder because you can't run as fast as a horse you would assume, but these are Amazon so you know, but that's worthy of a disqualification as well. Yeah, I guess nothing interesting happens other than that. So she because she is cocky, I guess, I don't know what if they're trying to argue that in some wait a minute. Is that the if that's the structure? Okay, I'm just confused now. Also fireworks in the background. I guess today is some kind of special day. I don't know. Happy New Year. So do you see that that they're riding toward the structure? Didn't they just jump off his way? Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's just how does that work? They swam that structurally. That's their backup arena. But okay, I'm very confused by this logistically. But just they're just making a big loop. It's just to make it. It's really stupid. That's all you can say. Yeah, because I maybe I'm reading this wrong, but I I'm taking this as though I'm going to draw some arrows so everyone knows what I'm talking about here. They did they did this with swimming. Or my or my missing something because this is right after they've gotten onto the horses. Yeah, no, that's yep, that's what yeah, that's basically what they did. Yeah, but there's no railings. There's no why there's no people watching. Yeah, no, couldn't you just jump and go straight to. All right. Well, that would be cheating. Okay, I'll be cheating. Yeah. So yeah, you get everyone's got their bows ready. I guess it's the physics and the geography of like every sequence in this move. It's just so baffling. I don't know where anyone is how they can move because none of it's real. Like the mall scene, I guess, so I'm getting ahead of myself. So, um, hey, Shad. This seems like a hard shot, but I guess they're Amazonians. So that's yeah, I did. So they've also now established that whatever age she is, you reckon she's what seven, eight here. She's world class master horseback archer. Yeah. Not easy to do that from what I understand. But she's nailing it. They never miss a shot. She never misses a shot or whenever she shoots that thing as well. She's like move over Hawkeye. Hawkeye just, yeah. Because it's not even about just shooting it in the ring. You have to shoot your particular color, which is Yeah, but they shoot the wrong one. Yeah. Well, awkward. Yeah, they will got to shoot their own colors. Which again, makes me think like I wonder if they were part of a house or something. Not sure entirely how it works. But yeah, so she's really far ahead. She's doing great and she would have dominated and it would have been awesome, except she looks behind her because she's an idiot and she hits a branch and falls off her horse. And I guess the only thing to say about that is just like damn, that horse was just like fuck off. I'm done. Bye. My question is she's not sitting that much higher than the head of the horse. And so did the branch hit the horse? Hmm. Maybe the horse think the horse saw it head down. Oh, okay. Yeah, we'll find out in a sec. I'll I'll show it on. Green. It's hard to balance this whole copyright while also nailing the visual references. You know, this is top tier EFAP streaming. I'll have you know. They're very stressful and she's like, oh, shit. I forgot about this part. Do you guys remember when she jumped over a chasm? Oh, the, um, no, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, I forgot about that. Holy shit. Oh, man. How many people died on this test? Also, no one in the audience get no one in the the arena gets to see this incredible feat of Oh, no, unless they have a little camera streaming it. Yeah. Now, this is the intended way. Right. Everybody use like a powerful bow. That's probably supposed to be made for, you know, worries. So it should be a war bow, but she's an Amazon super human child now. And so she can do it because reasons. I love that they add this just because it's cool. But at the same time, we're all just like, oh my God, I fear for the safety of these people. That's the entire movie. And the film is like, what are you? No, shut up. It's fine. It looks also okay. It doesn't even look by the way. Does that look like the horse is going to make it? Nope. Like the last would have fucking screeched to a stop. That was dead. Yeah, man. Like the arch there. I don't think it's going to do it. It looks like it went like this. And like, that's going to face plan. Which part of the other cliff she's aiming for and what's this part of the other cliff that actually opposes? Because it is at the back of the horse. I'm concerned for the horse is my point. All right. Hang on. Are Amazonian are Amazonian horses super? Oh, maybe, maybe. Also, she fires the arrow. Well, they are. She can't fly. She nails the arrow shot while doing that, actually. Excellent job. Mary Sue. Oh, could you say that? Everyone says that about all women characters these days. All right, everything without any. Well, I mean, the last movie actually showed her needing some training and to figure out her powers and stuff. And this one child graded everything because reasons. Well, she's so good that her ingenuity gets her in trouble. She's just moved on, isn't she? Is a little reminiscent. They seem to just keep fucking it up. Also, hi weekend. Wario, how you doing? Hi there. Are you here to hate women with us? Happy new year. Happy new year. Happy new year. Happy new year. How do you made it? What's the future like here? Have you seen Wonder Woman 84? The future is still sucking. They didn't stop it. The government was supposed to end bad once 2020 stopped, but they didn't. Yeah, that's the media manipulation. I still got a few hours of 2020 left. So, you know, what can I do? Uh, yeah. Have you seen 84? I can't remember if you've tweeted about it. 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We have. all right we're in Singapore now hopefully Singapore will save us yeah Singapore is kind of the savior of weekend you're right have you seen this movie weekend I I haven't unfortunately I was busy with New Year stuff well you know what it's okay because we're going through it piece by piece so people who haven't seen it they just pull up the stream you'll see all the references you need all you've missed is Wonder Woman as a child is dominating a bunch of adult women in the amazonian olympics because she's a prodigy uh a great start to our new female super hero movie yay it's downright off the table women can't do anything wrong oh and there's your answer is really started yeah yeah it's really amazing to me that she that they made her a child prodigy in the second movie and not the first movie like when she yeah she was retroactively she regressed like after this competition she became really you know like the horse stuck its head no it didn't and the miracle of vlc pausing allows us to see some modern art while we're discussing Wonder Woman too it's pretty cool the character was depicted as a child in the first movie right it's just that it was like the inverse of this where it was like outside of competition where she was like encouraged to avoid it yeah she didn't want to get anywhere near that sort of thing because she's worried um but yeah if the horse was able to be called this is still the the lesson or the the event here is all over she just whistles the horse comes back she gets back on and she's like well there we go that was awkward instead the horse fucks off because i don't know also whoa it keeps running at full speed dude no wonder this kid is sad look at that mask digging into it oh wow yeah that looks like it hurts yeah that does look like it hurts yeah poor girl and also what a very silly kind of thing but the like what is it the tiara i guess it keeps yeah it's is it i don't know the circlet what is the correct circlet yeah a war tiara a war circlet well yeah wonder woman does use it for battle later so it's gonna be fun to talk about the horse the horse is furious at her and it just leaves her entirely like it's going it's just bye um however this is lucky or unlucky it really depends on which character we're talking about in the events to come as a result but uh where exactly where wonder woman fell off her horse there is this just it looks hand crafted there is this slide that's going to take her to the exit what is this why is this here okay it's a water drain of some kind and so maybe you could justify it if there was a gutter on the side of the road where she was that funneled the water down here and they wanted to avoid erosion but that would be mine yeah yeah and also she slides down a bone dry water shoot well she's super oh okay she's super lubricated um but having something i mean this is the roadshad like it seems to have one it seems to have been placed here randomly like it's just like hey just pop one of those there just a case you know because it yeah there's nothing funneling water into that that would do nothing well you guys don't understand it's been carved out by all the people who cheated before her oh yeah this is this is cheaters bluff or whatever yeah famous cheating spot yeah um and so everyone's probably in chat thinking getting excited now it's like will she win it's like well she slides down it and again her fucking oh the friction it would kill and obviously the other people have definitely seen her doing it and i guess they're probably like you fucking cheetah this is against i mean it's apparently not known because she didn't know this was against the rules right so i mean yeah she knows she have to shoot all the things along the way but you think you know she knows the rules you couldn't have guessed the rules if you just were set up to do this challenge you wouldn't have ever guessed in a million years that you're supposed to shoot the colors of yours with the bow from the horse as you ride by and so um the break of the rule is not that she's not on a horse or not that she didn't go by the trail it's that she didn't hit the target this one target that i guess she didn't realize was there i don't know were the target spots a surprise to everyone when they did this hang on this is a question right so what if one of the other amazon's tried to shoot one of them and miss would that disqualify them because you would think in a proper tournament setup you would just lose a point something i think i think they would be disqualified yeah you have to hit your target yeah you gotta hit them all that's like checkpoints you gotta hit them all so that's how they know you went the whole way and didn't cut can you double back and just hit the target can't you do that and the camera zooms in to make sure we understood or no what did you say sorry can you just like go back can you double back on the horse and just shoot yeah target if you like overshoot it or yeah you could shoot again i assume you have to pass it it's just that uh she didn't realize this was there i guess oh great unfortunately i'm not even clear on how she manages to come first at this point you think the horseback people are gonna outright her although she's faster than a horse in the first movie um but when she's an adult we don't think we see a super run when she's a kid but then again she's a child prodigy who's beating them all in the olympics as a child so it's like i don't know but she's also not being trained yes she was not trained for the olympics despite doing pretty oh the horse comes back there you go she because she she gets ahead of it i forgot that i don't see how they haven't caught up yet but you know that happens another nice little jump in physics there as long as you guys aren't paying attention it'll be fine yeah it'll be fine yeah and uh right right in time hey that's soundtracks fucking awesome okay yeah so yeah everyone's all got concerned faces because the the person hasn't raised a flag for her last thing i'm a jiggy i guess and it's funny because you think that they complete the task and then they are told their results i guess or something like that but with her uh her friend and mentor person like grabs her and throws it to the ground i think it's like oh okay jeez yeah you're fucking jea um also they have to fucking toss a spear uh all the way into the big circle yeah she ain't she ain't shucking a spear that far child child prodigy you ain't fucking tossing a spear that far oh god in the middle of the arena wait they oh shit you're right they moved it they pulled a lever and it went they did a thing to get all the way they pulled a lever and it put everything under the little child struggling to just carry that thing is funny we just want to see the warriors get wet oh well her spear form is is probably on point i'm sure she's funny the we're also the the low angle with her running towards it like this she's carrying the spirit another angle i think it's because she can't carry it that's why yeah the angle the camera that way so that some other dude is like it's like carrying it for her um already this is a funny movie guys also imagine being a person that has to collect these spears though oh yeah in the ocean ocean there's not like a board behind it they're by degradable spear smaller so so it's part of the gradable there's a foreign thinking the amazonians for that force they love their ocean and uh why would she why did she pull the kid away in that moment because she's she hasn't hit the last you're a filthy cheater child yeah isn't she like explicit she's like you've cheated and the kid seems to be unaware of that it's like huh i didn't know i had another target so it's is it the fact that she didn't hit the target or the fact that she took the shortcut they don't explain because i really want to stand i actually don't say i could understand them saying that taking the shortcut is cheating i if that's the rules but it i always thought it was the she just didn't hit the target in which case she should be like let her throw the spear let her say yeah it's like i'm sorry diana like you didn't hit the last target you can't just definitely make it seem like sorry well i was gonna say you can't and then she well fun enough she probably would cut her off and be like i won i won fair and square and you're like no you didn't and you know what you can't just have things that you want well you know message just yeah yeah there are rules or something but what's the message it's about truth right yeah it's about truth this is the closest that ever gets to like truth as the message is here which is don't cheat yeah but it's never acknowledged that little diana understands that she cheated her face and the way that she acts here like i don't she doesn't get it she's like in denial that she cheated did or that she didn't even know she cheated i mean if she had hit the target and then but like she took that little shoot i mean is that not just ingenuity like or is that cheating because that's not been made clear whether you have to hit all of them yeah but i mean if she had hit the target and taken the slide would that have been okay or is it but what's the problem it's not clear i mean i just says you took the short path therefore you failed it's not that you didn't first off i don't know if she so they have no idea of knowing that she took a short path just they she should have could she could have just missed her shot did they just guess that she did because she missed the targets like you must have taken the short like how did you know i guess really easy for them to hit the targets then well yeah none of them miss because as we all know it's funny because shooting at a small target with a bow from the back of a horse while you're in a race is a really easy thing to in that case in a rare form the film seems to kind of almost disagree with anti-op if that's her name about what the problem is because the film is like she didn't do the thing with the with the color and the arrow she's gonna lose and then this character is like no she went through the short path and the film's like oh well okay i thought it was the other thing yeah because the camera gives a lot of focus to the fact that she didn't hit the target but if it's like no you took the short path what if she took the short path and then ran back and hit her target and then ran forward again and still won Kishu so far ahead with that count yeah because i mean i can get like you say you have like a race with a set track and then if you broke away from the track and do it a shortcut to cut off a portion of the track that would be considered cheating but there's no designated like there was a road and there was nothing to say that you had to stay on it or anything like that but that seems to be what she's now saying if you went off the road and took a shortcut you cheated hey shan do you know what i consider she in the fact that she's a child prodigy apparently has benefits that no one else in this entire society has like hmm and all these skills disappear when she gets a bit older and that's a train um well this is what this is the event that made her quit like so yeah well but what this scene breaks continuity right but it's also pointless in the overall plot of the film and they try and connect in the most hamfisted clumsy way yeah no proper through line at all because the message of this scene is no true hero is born from lies it's like yep okay i'd like to test that didn't zoos but but didn't zoos create her but didn't tell anyone about what she really was she was she was literally created through lies i think she was actually literally born from a lie oh my goodness oh no wow oh no film literally born of lies oh my goodness i never thought of that that oops i had to get so much worse hey look anti op didn't know that really it does that's amazing well we're probably going to discover all kinds of things as we go through this movie this is just the first we're 10 minutes in that's quite the vlc's fuckery actually helps me to copyright it's great like keep fucking up yeah um because i think that's it for this scene right they just they're just sad about how she could have won but she didn't because she cheated quote-unquote which is it's hard to understand where the cheating came in but you know it did it is what i made her hate a lot of people like everyone there was like that little fucking runt she cheated yeah she got this far and then she tried to cheat out all these other chicks wow the mum is pretty chill about it it's like yeah whatever yeah she's like i'm sure no one will hate you as you growing up and no one will hold this event against you for the rest of your life i'm not the mum from the first film where i hate you whenever you do anything relating to any kind of danger it's fine and then it's like what will she learn from this going forward in the narrative because that's what these scenes are supposed to do in films like this you're like this is going to go forward this is probably going to set the tone and the theme cheaters never prosper slash get born right that's that's that's what's important you know you're going to tie into it doesn't it doesn't set the tone or the theme because the the scene that sets the tone is the mall sequence that we're about to watch oh like that's the goofy nonsense that really sets out i've seen people argue that the opening scene we just saw was like stapled on in post or some shit like they just it was never it didn't seem like it was actually a part of the movie until probably late just like i fuck it wouldn't be simple considering that's the only part of the thing that kind of makes sense if you don't think about how diane it was fucking literally born no but see even at the end where they try and connect the through line of truth and everything it's garbled nonsense it it's out of garbage they're like this through line of truth saving people like it's so stupid and it makes yeah it's really disjointed and it seems like just the wrong message to have in this film uh it doesn't really connect with anything it is a huge stretch it is a theme that is absolutely not at all carried by the material mm-hmm and so i think they added the scene after they shot everything and they realized that oh we got we got to have a theme yeah let's just make it a mess ties to a childhood way she lived something yeah so so everyone rags dude it's the cynical nature of thematic through lines that come into a lot of stuff like batwoman does this all the time which is why when watching mandalorian we were kind of surprised they didn't have a theme really there was no uh presumed message no lesson to learn really it was just like it was more events like hey boba fat it was just things just sort of happened for improbable reasons and that's just sort of that because of course it doesn't take a genius to see that this movie is trying to tell you some stuff it's like you know lies bad first of all which all right you know yeah which i don't even realize and then we get our sequence of hey remember the 80s uh for a little bit this is probably the most yeah this was it yeah yeah this is it it puts it front loads all of the 80s stuff into a little rescue montage at the very beginning and that's basically it that's the most 80s it ever gets and so can i this is going to take a quick oh by the way her kicking that car with such force to knock it that far would have just totally destroyed the front of the car so i was just going to bring up like this moment she could have grabbed the girl and pulled her out of the way typical superhero fashion instead she kicks this car by the way it's not their fault i can't tell if it is their fault actually she runs in front of them i don't know if the the lights are red it is their fault okay um but of course you could still just pull her out of the way it would be okay but she kicks them and then this is what happens the car it's just like well she's lucky that this is all that happens let's just put it that way incredibly lucky yeah she could have hurt more people doing that yeah yeah she kicks it in a direction that any of the cars could have been coming toward especially because if it's green light the other way cars are going to be coming from the other direction in both ways now if if people even see the green light paying attention we're not seeing wonder woman we're seeing glimpses of wonder woman why is that well if you remember continuity batman says to her where the fuck have you been like why haven't you been helping the world and she argues this because like of what world war one did i think she's like put her in a position which is oof you know can't couldn't she's finally back when doom's day starts destroying the world she comes back so obviously she didn't do anything about the man of steel and batman of his superman events up until the finale of the films which is really hard to believe like that she wouldn't have gotten involved when zod invaded earth like i don't know yeah but but world war one well it doesn't even make sense because she's currently saving people no no no one someone had to save that woman crossing the street okay yeah oh yeah i just want to let's let's make that really clear so between the montage at the beginning or the the race the olympics at the beginning and now a lot of things on the world stage have happened that have been really bad you know like the holocaust but wonder woman didn't do anything to try to help any of those things nope nope does try to save ironically the israeli yalka diet didn't do anything to stop the holocaust didn't stop anything the implication is all she ever did was something that was essentially stuff you wouldn't notice necessarily on the world stage yeah stuff that's basically your friendly neighborhood wonder woman yeah and that's what they're trying to do this is your opening you need this sequence and a lot of superhero stuff to convince us that they care about the people on the ground and that they hold they get it you know their life their enjoyment is to save people and she's so she's all these little scenarios because we're going to see a couple more now where she's just saving people from different things but already it's like wait but now everyone would know about it and obviously she would help with bigger things if she's willing to help with smaller things right it's like um already we're in trouble oh my god yeah so just keep that in mind for everything that she's doing to help people in this whole sequence just keep in mind that she's doing this instead of anything else also so the fact that someone said wonder woman let 9 11 happen that doesn't happen until 2001 so how do you happen yet but she will she hasn't let it happen rest if you didn't know it was going to happen well she didn't know it was going to happen right she'd have to time travel oh you know how does the time travel device decide that it's 1984 that they go back to no no that's not a thing there is no time there's no time travel here this is just she's just she just gets to live forever because she's fucking amazing yeah this is a magical wish monkey's pot she's a magical amazonian yeah we'll we'll get to it don't worry shad is still we're half an hour from the moment shaz probably gonna want to talk about in movie time so is it just a is it a monkey spot or is it this just she just lives so long that 1984 both of those things are true she's immortal i think but also there's a monkey's okay also she somehow manages to uh like i'm not entirely sure how exactly like how long it takes for her to age from a child into her adult form thousands of years maybe also hi south bar hello hello how's it going capital we're talking this is a portion of our crew of watching the Wonder Woman movies now here uh it was it was an exciting journey um we're just gonna help as we break this down as they're showing us eighties tisms you have Maxwell lord is on the tv in the background just to help you be like yeah he's an influential person his ads are everywhere uh people know him more eighties stuff i'm kind of just uh cycling through until we get to the next person she probably saves in a really reckless way because fun fun fun fun and then we'll get to the mall scene which is amazing no doubt fits right into batman robin i'd say oh yeah these girls like they steal some stuff from a store um oh i think it's because doesn't Maxwell say like whatever you want in the world take it or something and then they steal i can't remember it's um it's a slightly odd moment ah here we go has any bearing on anything else yes it's the best character in the whole movie oh so here we go the girls who stole some stuff they run past a recently wed couple and oops the wife falls and she's about to fall into the the little river there um but Wonder Woman happens to be in the area and she wraps this shit's so crazy do you get you get logistically where this is like what woman has to be on ground she's wrapped this woman she's gonna have to yank her and she's just glides and slides across the concrete she's okay like there are so many ways this could have gone horribly wrong and you know what would have been best just letting her fall in the water and swim out yeah because you could yank her and her head would have smacked into that stone wall it looks like that's what should have happened honestly if you have the power and force to have pulled her out of the way of the water into the she's going straight into the concrete okay to be fair to be fair that would have saved that guy three years and half his shit so you know right you cranked your anti-wamin stuff to this women are great i'm just making jokes oh my god vlc just generating some terrifying imagery here in there hope you guys caught that one because i couldn't have it that was fun so yeah another person that Wonder Woman should have killed but oh well you're welcome in a no way that nobody didn't see this yeah it's impossible that she would be under the radar with all of this shit but apparently she is as if it doesn't get worse and no one made a sketch of her to say this is what she looked like or described her as just bath only no listen as long as she destroys all the cameras in the area she's fine no one but she destroys the cameras after she saves someone okay we're almost there we're getting oh my god so i couldn't snap it in time but uh cap has done it check that out everyone that looks a bit like galitha i'd say like that's something galitha has been he's been snacking on her she looks she looks like she's uh coming from a different dimension and into the spider universe so it like she's glitching all right i mean she she must be really lucky that a handsome guy would still want to you know take her to be his wife with a face like that it's that's true love so the scenario here is that a group of thieves have discovered that a jeweler's store is a front for smuggling high value items right and nothing they want is in the front of the store no no no no no they're here for the good shit and so they flash their weapons and they're like look don't make a scene we're gonna steal from you we know what you're doing is illegal and so if if we get caught you get caught too something like that right that's the kind of logic they're using but yeah so but question they could use they could use the exact same essentially threat to just take all the stuff from the front yeah um i guess the front stuff isn't as valuable as the back stuff oh yeah i think that's the idea well honey well not the same reaction where's to live by and yeah so they get into the back and they're like oh my god look at all this and again thank you vlc for fucking up the visuals so that i can get covered you know it's just trying to help me it's almost makes for yeah so and the camera slowly pans around we got the the i don't know it's like a christly rock thing we're just gonna call it the monkey's paw throughout the film i think just let's just say real quick this guy looks like a like a discount clint eastwood like grand terino clint eastwood yeah he went down a darker path yeah clint eastwood yeah after his wild west days if he became a shitty jewel thief and so then this is up to this point the film's been what i would call normal bad this is what we start get to like crazy bad so i'm scared funny bad they walk out of the out of the room and uh it seems that there's four dudes in total who are all a part of this it's a pretty clean job nobody seems to notice anything unfortunately for our team one of the dudes fumbles fumbles fumbles fumbles and down the gun on the floor goes oh no what a silly villain now um i guess i'm so limited on my knowledge here if you're in 1984 in a shopping mall and you drop a gun like that is there a chance that you can pick it back up and be like oops sorry yeah like what is truly yeah like probably yeah any number of reasons do you have a concealed carry in this time what's yeah what state is this oh this is california before it became too crazy lefty so i'm not sure right oh yeah this is dc but they're a big crazy lefty place now too um i don't know oh well even here is like he pulled out the gun and held it to her face like she screams it's like she's yeah reaction well i don't i mean i don't know it's weird my her reaction isn't what's extra crazy it's that everyone in the mall now knows exactly what's happening and where it's happening and panics instantly and panics instantly yeah because even here where concealed carry is totally legal and i do it all the time if if a gun randomly fell out of someone's pants like that would definitely be like whoa what the fuck it's like that is a what look how badly they do it as well like i'm just realized because some people in chat commented on it as well like look at the nature in which he drops it so the gun is tucked into the front of his jeans and he just what is he doing with this bag he just moves moves moves moves moves moves moves oh the gun he grabs his own gun sort of pulls it out and then it drops it's like he pulls the gun out himself to throw it to the ground like the actor because i don't and if your jacket is open like that why do you have your gun stowed away on the front of your pants if your jacket's open it's such forced fumbling like there is no reason for it to be good way to describe it the directing the director obviously said like okay you've got this bag and like you're you're really struggling with it for some reason he's like okay and then it's just there's no need for it it's just like why why wouldn't you just like a regular human being just open the fucking bag and take out what you need from it like it's gotta be such an ordeal the woman screaming at the very sight of a gun that the one in the background is like and yeah so this this sets off the whole scene which the funny part to me was we noticed so much of this as we're watching it in the e-fat movies so intense so everyone runs almost as if there's some kind of we just have to believe as an audience that these people in this world at this time terrified of seeing a gun and then this guy who's in cahoots with him decides ah to blend in i shall pretend that i'm not bothered and i stand still and like i'm just chill it's like isn't that the last thing you should do i understand well just saying pretending he's not part of you know that guy you would think that's a at least somewhat of a mild thing the guy says hey we gotta go and is like oh yeah that's the big fuck up yeah well it's what i mean is that's where i was getting that probably first of all the first guy if he had just sprinted in a different direction like oh my god i'm so scared of that gun too guys oh that's terrifying yeah he's got a gun and just ran away like everyone yeah instead he's like i'm going to chill out here that the guy's like come on fellow thief let's go like why would you implicate me you fucking asshole and of course it's meant to be funny it's just like really stupid but yeah all right so next up you have i guess our team of four thieves are all over the place and the security guards are now picking up on them and uh Clint Eastwood just starts running i don't know what implicated him yeah this was baffling nothing she suddenly knows he's a bad guy for what what do you do then you have um nothing i'm proud of i'm gonna say one point of compliment uh security guard aims his gun does not shoot in a shittier film he would have just shot at the civilians randomly because that's just how cops work a lot of the time they're just like boom boom boom boom boom i gotta stop the bad guy in movies yeah then of course you're doing a bit of a funny they have to run real fast to get up the descending escalator um because i don't know if you picked up already chat but this this the tone of this scene is absolutely batman robin levels like uh if you want to explain it's like you're not supposed to take this seriously at all at least i think so um but it's just incredibly poorly constructed regardless so yeah as if we haven't dealt with enough craziness our team of thieves are now just like what the hell do we do how do we escape and the guy who dropped his gun is like i see a little girl now questionnaire i was like oh he's gonna use her as a body shield like he'll nobody's gonna shoot him if he's got her until he's able to enact the next portion of his plan which is possibly getting to a particular exit getting into a car whatever it is the one thing i really didn't expect him to do is what happens which is right why didn't he why did he even grab her they're not surrounded this isn't like his corner and he has a last thing oh i'll grab the child as the last ditch they could have just kept running no one is there stopping them yeah and he's a bit stupid it gets to the point where um random civilians and his thieve buddies are like what are you doing like this is weird dude like put the girl down but but he decides like no this is what i'm committing to now and i'm gonna dangle her over the edge so that if anyone kills me she dies you're like dude and i'm gonna stay here for hours i have a question like do these guys not know that their buddy was this bit of a like this much of retard yeah i mean he's screwing up the plan constantly he's definitely the loose kid i i do love the clit eastward characters like dude no stop please nobody wants a while card yeah why don't they just leave him yeah so you think that they just all split well this is the craziest thing because this relies on everybody staying where they are and remaining there basically like the two on the other side completely blew their cover by going no what are you doing well their cover was apparently already blown remember cleanest guy was like just getting chased for some reason i don't know why but yeah but this is a again a small compliment among the scenes that the thieves are so distracted by this immoral act that they're choosing to try and compel their comrade to stop doing this rather than escape it's like oh wow they look at them they try to be like hey please don't hit the little girl because it's just like what an insane scenario that he's decided to dangle her off the edge um and yeah they're all pleading with it and i think if i remember there's a shot a close-up of cleanestwood in a moment that's uh where is it because everyone's just so yeah there's like the whole crowd everyone's just staring at this guy yeah everyone's shouting no don't do it bro oh yeah there it was damn it vlc you're destroying the magic look he kind of looks like nicholas cage here in that angle in the zoom in angle oh i can see that nicholas cage yeah that's the other guy yeah this is the shot of the old dude just being like no okay what are you doing what like like what are you doing you're holding it i look away for one second and now you're holding some how did you arrive at this point oh i wonder if this is a reference to michael jackson doing this with his own kid you know like he dangle blanket out the window yeah yeah um so then wonder woman apparently basing through the ceiling and yeah apparently dive bombs and just snatches the child from the man i i'm i just i presume no one was hurt in this transaction so we're covered she knew this was happening and so she went up to the roof it's like this is my point of attack she's swinging from the very center and nobody's area saw this everyone this guy's fucking face yeah so uh that's distinguishable of the of the group of robbers for his resemblance to clenny swed yeah so she's done uh everyone can see her now there's no there's no way like everyone would know about this person the way she's dressed the way she looks and what she does and who sees like she has a lasso that she uses uh and the tr and stuff so this just breaks again the the dceu but whatever let's just move on let's see what this film's doing so she's wrapped up that guy she's looking she has a lot of superhero poses that gal Gadot you know does the superhero movie follow the scene where she's a kid like we just go right into this scene oh wow okay yeah all right all right all right so check it out here we go you're ready i'll play the scene first chance so boom boom boom back to here so what you have an issue with this nitpick or what does this come from like the og comics did she do this in the og comics use her tiara as like to break your cover uh i'm sorry even if this was in the comics it's so retarded let's give an incredible hand let's give a hand to diana for being able to throw it in a way that it bounces off of all of the security cameras in this rotunda and then returns to her this magnitude just destroys the cameras doesn't destroy the uh footage exactly like that this would be over the news everywhere for what the camera recorded her already doing well i thought nothing at that point i thought we had gotten past this i thought that films didn't make this mistake anymore the when you destroy a camera doesn't destroy the recording but i guess we're still in that era we're gonna wait a little bit longer and people will catch up apparently apparently it erases all the bystanders that are witnessing all of this too yeah if you destroy the cameras it erases people's memories so it's pretty neat um so then she does that and obviously catches up two second dude and uh i want to highlight she has him by the arm and she pulls him so hard and so fast that he slams through this thing um what is arm not have basically been detached at least the bones uh that's gonna gonna wreck but of course it's funny he's fine he's just spinning around uh and everyone's appreciating the wonder oh yeah i guess to make sure we covered that like the the whole camera thing her cover is blown there's no way that everyone doesn't know about wonder woman it's impossible yeah um so that guy is is is here this guy tied up still but oh the ropes come off him we'll just remember that because of course when they were animating this they need to have it so that comes off so that she can swing herself to the next area um she's got to go get Clint Eastwood and the other one and uh here we are i'm guessing they just terrified by it but uh lots of children lots of people around so just pulling guns it's like eh hopefully they don't shoot them right because they were just very concerned about a kid's life earlier also where is that girl's mother i don't know doesn't really matter also she walked into danger she was behind oh that kid's base oh wait wait she was with her mother in the previous shot that we like last saw her and now all of a sudden she's gone like i like the the spit and throw not give a shit also they were when i was they were really concerned they were really concerned about like that one guy killing some you know girl but i guess they're fine with just wanting to shoot wonder woman but they don't but they like they're threatening to but they wouldn't actually do it it's just kind of weird yeah because she's like we should have run away like five minutes ago too man she's so confident too like you guys you suck and it's just like yeah this very tension filled scene you know everyone being completely destroyed and so here comes she knew that they would run in this exact way at the exact moment just it's such a like i'm so badass i just like i'm so like how the fuck did you figure this was happened yeah you actually need to use your eyes to see she's she's wonder woman and this movie likes to just give her new superpowers at random at some times so one of her new powers here is uh she has eyes in the back of her head you know and the last story was almost sentient in how it can grab on and let go at a whim also trying to follow this okay two of them get pulled that guy is in so much trouble rammed against the wall but then the whip is pulled off of them and onto these two lads who have not done anything this entire time they just stood there naturally so she's got them swings down swings back up physics again are just not something that wonder woman is a fan of like it's it's in a list of powers on the ground too i hate that um this guy is she seems to be sliding a lot like yeah on the floor i don't know that's looks weird but like she pulled this guy but he's released again her latent flying ability she because she can she's just she's just triggering it instinctually at this point well she flew in uh in the first movie for for a brief moment of time that guy looks like a hobbit yeah he could be a hobbit yeah feel bad for hobbits so yeah she's saying 11 C's so this is one of the most fascinating parts she moves toward him t-shirt laser slides i've heard that's a that's a valid fashion choice ranks weekend is right there from some dumb people oh my god that's really harsh it's really harsh yeah that's right yeah don't know what this guy it's not the pinnacle of the four of the art form i just have to say yeah this guy clearly isn't with that stash his curly reddish hair yeah he jerry curler from the t-shirt i want to appreciate the physics okay yeah physics are wonderful in this moment full force forward slide down kick so you would expect him to probably fall to the ground with his leg going up like he would maybe or just break the leg off really depends how fast she's going but he somehow flings all the way up um he should be in so many forms of pain it is like it's not even fair and then um the force of returning to the ground she grabs him there oof that poor man i'm surprised he's even alive with the shock he should have gone into well i mean i'll be legitimately murdered from the just a little bit later so that yeah wonder woman's fine with trying to kill people can we talk about the fact that the the guy that's on the ground is now acting like the lasso has tied around him yeah so this is a clear error they made uh you could see here he's just like if anything he's like oh my back like uh i'll just stay down though it's fine and the next time we see him he's uh he's like oh my god this annoying lasso that's currently around me for sure ah dammit but they just didn't they didn't put it on they didn't feel they needed to yeah he's just like i'm sure that i'll just do what the directors tell me there's no way that they would fuck something up so incredibly royally like not animate the lasso around me like that would be what an oversight for a movie with this budget like yeah and wonder woman is like don't tell anyone while being surrounded by people it's like okay every moment you tell someone to not kill anybody more people are witnessing you this is a this this little bit is what i like to call forced whimsy like this is them trying to be whimsical and it just like this is they they want to uh to be all cutesy and not like the uh like man of steel or bvs state because you know after bvs came out and flopped and everyone said like it was too dark and grim they're like okay we need to make more lighthearted content now and yeah it's like this is their attempt to do that and it's just shit yeah oh well it feels like a step above stranger things in terms of caricaturing the 80s yeah like it feels a little like a little too much like an abundance of color and i don't know so a little too much yeah she drops i was referring to before when i just about it she basically attempts to murder these guys throwing them from a roof you have to appreciate how far they've just fallen yeah that's a clear 10 meters at the very least most generous ever as a group into a car um and look at the force it manages to crush the car and um and i know it this in our efat movies the old man is on the bottom he look at him he's so dead old and deaf well he had a few years to live anyway yeah that um oh yeah they're all that effort to kill them yeah yeah they're they're in serious pain and injury they're not they're supposed to be dead what the fuck they are dead so dead and uh and yeah there's like a news report that's like there's this person this mysterious person who once again saves the day it's like uh who could it have been all right i guess yeah people just why not why not just tie them up and leave them why'd she have to drop them on the car anyway because they deserve that punish hey somehow fuck that cop car i guess yeah what it means well now we have to pay for the top of a new cop car and we have to check and make sure that these guys aren't like yeah someone had to answer for that you know seriously injured yeah like meloni what happened out there it's like i'm sorry boss it was that the cops i mean you know me the other guys fell on it they just fell on it from the third time this week meloni we we were we wasn't a fault we we were standing in front of the mall with our guns pointing at the door ready to blast away anyone who walked out and then all of a sudden they fall from the sky all tied up what is this accent i don't know i don't know meloni just like 19 just meloni sir god damn it meloni i want to i want to highlight this amazing little photoshop job from jade raptor in the uh in the discord oh my that is pretty fantastic it's surprisingly well um you could probably just to combine the three characters have it saying ray you know good old fin so we are we are greeted after our introductory scenes it's like so just to catch you guys up the great war ended mystery surrounds miracle of ludendorff's defeat so it was never known exactly what happened there even though that would be a tough secret to keep for all the people involved but i guess they did um they've even got what would be a tough secret to keep is this the present day now no so this is oh no wait no i can't remember what oh wait no no the original film takes place in the 19 what 40s or no 30s no 19 10s 20s yeah 1918 right oh oh yeah world war one right right okay and then this we are now in time to the 80s so she's been going for a long time and uh wait so malo you said that this secret would be hard to keep which secret is that all of it i thought you were talking about like being a war hero uh well so what happened to ludendorff and the thing with aries i get you have a lot of soldiers who saw all of it and know that she did something there there's no way you're keeping like the idea that is like ludendorff mysteriously died that's the story it's like i feel like a bunch of those soldiers would have been uh willing to testify what they saw he was killed by a sword mm-hmm oh yeah like all the german soldiers who just gave up after she defeated aries they'd be like man there's this crazy boss battle yeah if they hated violence and war you think they'd now i guess they'd you'd want to find out the crazy soldier who came in with a sword and started killing i also don't believe that like the discount howling commandos wouldn't have said a word about working with one woman you must have she must have told him just want him to secrecy you know i must yeah don't tell anyone about anything i've done you know like no guys oh well we'll get started first photo is uh they honor the local hero that is steve traver um for his sacrifice the bravery of local pilot uh yeah i wonder if they know the specifics of all of that i don't know whatever they they kept her a secret that's the important part and the lady from the first film who awkwardly is like wonder woman you gotta put on clothes befitting a lady is is either old or dead at this point probably dead right probably dead yeah by this point yeah it's been like what 70 years i think the movie's kind of naive if in like not having people tell anyone right it yeah i also know more than kind of words that are kind of floating around in the background oh yeah there's rumors of this happening it it's much better if you do it that way because at the very least it's like she's gonna be an urban legend right yeah exactly way better than on nobody to urban thousands of people get the secret yeah okay all the people in that town as well social media didn't exist guys so people can't tell anyone right that's why right i mean so dumb or whatever they were thinking it's kind of dumb i mean if she's been saving random people you're right she's been saving random people in a day to day for this long there's just no way everyone knows nothing there's just no way yeah exactly but they said that she wouldn't do that in the first movie when the church that she destroyed though oh yeah um randy uh yeah all the survivors watching her do that um and plus all the people on the in the trenches before she got there all the soldiers and stuff we saw her and all the surviving germans yeah you think that like one one woman getting out of a trench in no man's land and deflecting all the bullets and like with a shield because they all just keep on targeting her shield instead of like her legs or anything besides the shield um you think that that would be talked about quite a bit no i think no no they wouldn't want to admit they've been beaten by a woman too proud yeah and and wonder woman got the picture so no one talked about it right that that's the reason or some shit i don't i'm curious how the chris pine character is alive because i had a very stupidly flawed perception of the sequel where it's like you know they're going to the 80s it's like relative to our present day it's like oh it's a throwback he's still alive but then i remembered like oh the first movie takes place in the 1910s so like they're going forward in time yeah i mean plus he exploded i don't know right yeah so like this if he if he's alive does that mean like the plane full of weapons or chemicals whatever the fuck it was like didn't get blown out no he died okay he's dead oh no he's dead yeah he's dead we'll they'll get we'll get to life yeah we'll get in there don't worry how he's dead i have so much to say about that i assume that's i assume that's where the monkey's paw comes in where it's bringing people back to life somehow well for now it's nice and chill it's just like look she's sad that steve's died she even went to his ranch i guess it's like yeah we're just reintroducing you to the world of wonder woman what have you missed in the past 60 plus years it's like yeah just some stuff it's fine right um she's still got the watch she gave her which by the way panning photograph shot i'm gonna just you know just drop it in now we'll we'll talk about it a little bit later too she knew him for very little very little amount of time and it's been many many many days since you might even say it's been many years since you'd think you'd think yeah she she may have you know just with just how with how life works that some other things may have happened but it's almost as if the events of wonder woman took place like a week ago in order to pretty much strange which is funny because they often forget what happened in their own movie but hey and yeah she even goes to restaurants to just dine with herself alone because you know what men suck at this point none can compare to chris pine yeah i kind of do she knew for a month i don't know i like honestly even rewatching the film i can't remember how long she actually knew chris pine for and i would bet it was very little less than a week less than a week yeah yeah um but i mean he's a pretty awesome dude so i can understand how she doesn't want to love again after losing him you know i would be the same way but he was the first man that she ever saw therefore therefore therefore what that's it that therefore period she has a rule the first man i see i fall in love with and then the second to the 50th man i see i kill and then the rest i think how it goes come on in in her defense it is chris pine oh yeah he's he's a charmer and uh yeah and if you remember when she first meets him he just gets it out immediately right in front of you know and that's a bold tactic but it can work yeah you heard it here first folks i mean it did work right she's she's not moved on for 70 years i must have been run you know galaxy peen right there it's just like i don't know what they were going like she's just doesn't she's just thinking about herself and then she just doesn't want to even honestly yes again to like this is the film language portion of the film where it's like you see she looks at the plane and thinks of steve some guy is like hey one attacks you right she's like no steve okay okay it's been it's been 65 years you're gonna have to just you're gonna have to like move on man would you like any dessert no no she's wonder woman she's sad she's 10 times as sad as the normal man like you have to realize at this point that you're a demigod us and you're immortal and you're going to outlive basically any romantic partner that you have so long as they are mortal and that steve would have died anyways even if he survived the the events of the first movie by this point in time because it's 1984 and it's like 66 years after that that is just heartless i cannot believe you would say such a thing you don't understand at all introducing love like diana loves christin wig as what even was her name barbara barbara this is electro miss it yeah she's yeah the whole thing like look at how she awkwardly is power walking to work she wears baggy clothing her her bag is awkward her hair is awkward she is awkward when speaking to people she is quirky what is the name of him from tazm 2 max something right max max dylan max dylan she is maxine dylan she's also from uh salina kyle from batman returns yeah i need to rewatch that so i'm pretty sure it's not a shit as this no it isn't no i like that movie it's good statistically aren't as shit as this i meant specifically this intro compared to the salina kyle sort of intro because she's not like a ditzy klutzy idiot person right she's like she's a secretary no she's a bit more like self deprecating and pathetic um she feels much more like a real person which is weird because it's a tim Burton batman movie but oh well it was also a lot less cliched by that point when that movie came out well it's true Burton does more realistic characters than wonder woman 84 tim Burton's depiction of real life became more reasonable when we hit 2020 you know yeah i'll especially danie de vito as the penguin the number one son and they treated me as number two i think i'll buy first capital it's a lot better than and half the ways to i adored that penguin oh yeah well that's gonna be an efab movie for sure it will you better bring me i have to say yes i think people want you to be in all of the efab movies at this point what are you laughing at everything that well okay but that's just because they like my laughter right it's because i'm like an easy laugh that's a compliment well it was such a personality oh you lied to me i see so speaking of establishing things right she oops her briefcase clip clasp thing opens up all the papers are on the floor classic now this place she's worked out for a week is it she's she's new um the i think she's new anyway but the there's two guys will posture and they're like loser like oh you think most people in most wick scenarios are more like oh man you know let me help you you know yeah it was kind of at this point when we were watching it that i was sort of getting the impression that men were shit hmm um a pretty lady like her dropping her stuff like that in front of everybody and all these men just walk by you like it's like come on they look right at her too yeah they look right at her they like they give her this just condescending smarmy look like i ain't helping you which is honestly in my experience this is rare this just doesn't happen that much in the way places i've been in if someone drops all this shit like that one of the first things people do is like oh shit do you know had yeah there's somebody there that can see them doing this as well this reminds me of stranger things again wonderful and pure and amazing would come by and help her out you know well that's the thing this is a perfect setup who will come to her aid who do you guys think it'll be it's one the one the random guy oh my god it's oh my goodness thank goodness you are here to save the day she uses her lasso to get all of the papers together and the lasso folds them all and then alphabetizes them in order of well the alphabet and then she packs them on to the suitcase and the lasso closes it and locks it down and resets the combination and then tells her what the new combination is because it's really good as a kiss it is hard not to look at this scene in the same way that spider-man picks up Max's blueprints and adds them to it but then Max looks at spider-man like wow you're awesome thank you it's almost like the exact same thing yeah um which is funny because i don't know if any anyone called didn't catch it but on twitter someone was like stop giving these roles to women and start giving them to bed to show bed how shitty it is like men have had these roles for ages that stupid nerdy annoying character who then gets given one small break by someone then becomes a villain it's like the first thing i went to was edward nigma from batman oh yeah edward nigma he's a perfect example yeah he is this character yep um and then max is obviously perfect but uh iron man three uh what the hell was his name old rich kill killian oh one and old rich killian old rich killian wow old rich killian yikes yeah right that's a pretty neat villain name right this is all this is also about the time that we start to get into this movie starts to feel like a ghost busters 2016 i haven't seen that i was really getting those vibes from watching this is because of christmas because yeah because it has kind of like an improv quality to it like an abundance of um with the way they try to be with it with i don't know it's hard to put my finger on it but with the like the the men are kind of lame and nerdy women and but they're great and that sort of thing it just it was giving me those vibes i don't know if i could put a specific finger on what it was just a whole aura of the movie um especially after the intros started to just make me feel like um i was watching a ghost busters ask movie um i actually have that trip for you right now rags oh my god what trope the ghost busters trope what is this the women are wiser women are wiser what was the reference just because i think i'm gonna miss it for this film i mean well i mean uh i don't know what do you mean i mean i was just going off of what you were just saying there rags unless i'm uh miss hearing what you're talking about well you get the vibes of the way that the characters talk and interact and how they have women behave and how they have men behave it all sort of just mixes together with this whimsical office office quality to office space quality to it that made made me think of ghost busters 2016 someone said it's like there's too much comedy injected into it like an artificial level of comedy uh in bad company someone said earlier that uh but rag she's nerdy so not hot once she stops being a nerd she's suddenly hot and everyone likes her no guys have ever liked to clutch the nerdy women not once not one time no yeah i don't like that weird trope oh she doesn't have glasses anymore therefore she's hot oh she's hot i can't that's so that much like the security camera thing is this thing that i thought we would never do again but we are we're still doing yeah yeah this is a certain that reality is just different than what it is like oh yeah no no chick would ever go out with her or help her because she's got glasses on because it's not the big like they're not touching the freak she keeps that yeah she keeps the shirt she just takes the glasses off and takes her skirt off so she's just wearing what leggings or something and everyone's like whoa hey damn girl who is this person we're the tighter clothes oh she's not wearing makeup on her face as if no man could possibly tell what kind of body she might be sporting if she's wearing baggy clothes therefore unattractive it's like i don't think that's how that works okay no she never would because she's amazing but if she did then oh yeah she would uh yeah all the guys would be helping her because she doesn't have glasses on is this what patty jenkins thinks men think like i have to wonder that might you do have to wonder i mean i just basic humans oh right and she looks at uh his shoes of while we were recording this like wait that's not going to be the pry before she becomes cheetah right the leopard print on his shoes like why is that even there is it just a foreshadow i guess oh my god that's what it is oh my gracious film is way ever than i thought it would be that's what i mean it's it's embarrassing either way like oh look at how clever we are she's got leopard print shoes you're like okay what did you think you were achieving when you did that i don't know wow that's terrible i mean it you're not saying that that's uh barbara that's got the leopard print shoes right no no it's wonder woman is diane right diana but the fact that she has them i think i think it's related to this i think it's related to this flawed perception of men in the 80s in particular like i was gonna say earlier that stranger things did the same thing where you had the corporate guys who were such fucking assholes all of them i can't remember what season it was maybe season three where uh yeah the she's working in the office or whatever and i think gary buzy is one of the guys who's working in the building and they're all it's like a big boys club where they're constantly like mocking the woman for being a woman and it's just so cartoonish right um i'm gonna i'm gonna call it fair i'm gonna leave for a while do some family stuff for new years and then i'll be uh and i'll be back in a while after that very well cool man yeah see you're on mr rager catch later rags yeah i'll see y'all in a bit tuteloo enjoy discussing wonder woman it's amazing i love it every second it's an adventure so uh yeah till then see you happy new year rags happy new year later rags happy new year happy new year can someone send me that screenshot for research what the the leopard print shoes wait which screenshot i'm kidding i'm kidding oh i think because i was like you can just grab it yourself you know get light shot everyone should get light shot anyone who does not have light shot should get light shot there you go that was a promo for light shot i'm not paid by them what is light shot i don't know what that is so it's uh it like replaces your print screen and it lets you uh i will demonstrate it right now so oh no i've seen you do it where you can crop a section of the monitor right yeah it's pretty cool that's what you were doing you get you get a little pen you get draw straight lines you get draw arrows you get draw squares oh you get highlights so if i want to highlight she's wearing glasses here so ugly make sure we got that um there's even a bat because obviously i didn't do that very well this time i did though that's much better and um yeah then different forms of saving and um i can just temporary copy and temporary paste and it's a super useful tool i recommend everyone get it that's cool uh speaking of modern art look at that um so i guess we're at the point now because my memory gets a little bit hazy in this part of the film so anybody with any thoughts you want to share go right ahead um keep an eye on the suitcase in the scene by the way because the paper's sticking out of it change from shot to shot well is that a problem cj yes how do you know it's not a magic suitcase a briefcase because it's not been established it's a magic suitcase you're supposed to pretend that it is but in the comics in the comics they have fun in the comics no that means it's fine well it's in the comics so it's accurate according to the official merchandise of this movie the briefcase actually is magical uh yeah it shows up in Wonder Woman uh issue uh 27 it's everything everything is magical if you believe it is yeah honestly that's the real theme of this movie um i'm blanking a little bit it's like they they talk and then and then we basically i'm just trying to get to the part where they get the the monkey's paw and uh she manages to read the inscription which there's something about a wish on there right which prompts them to try wishing with it i'm uh i'm gonna take this opportunity to bow out now uh before the discussion goes any further because as fun as this is i've had enough of this movie for one night it's just it's just too stupid i hate this movie so much not even like not even a sixth through it and you're already dead damn see all that this is what i wanted to address the big good thing first because i reckon everyone who is leaving is missing out on the biggest point you can shout whatever whatever you have to say about the big thing just assume i agree because i hate the big thing too oh i want to see your reaction so i've already i've already seen this movie i know it's total dog shit but yeah the big thing is bad um but i'll let i'll let you guys suffer through it because i've had enough i i need a stiff drink and to regain some faith in humanity um if if an hour passes and you want to talk about it again we'll probably still be here or whatever completely up to you but uh thanks for jumping in no yeah thanks for having me on guys uh nice to meet you whoever i haven't met yet um howdy you too man happy new year nice to you again anybody else happy new year guys uh enjoy this train wreck bye boy the dog what a bigot good riddance i'm tired of the the hatred i think it's it's getting upsetting like oh it's so bad i had to leave it's like that's ridiculous and i really do like the idea that he has nowhere to be and nothing to do he's just sick of this movie i mean honestly we're not even close to the insanity this movie offers like this it's particularly intense uh so yeah they read the inscription and um they both wish for for something each uh in in barbara's case she wants to be like diana and in diana's case she wants steve trevor to i don't think we get the wording right she just she's silent when she wishes for it if she doesn't actually make a what's it's a telepathic monkey spa way because later like people need to say it out loud for sure right um well that's that's one of wonder woman's powers she's able to make wishes silently please tell me this wish granting device doesn't just fucking come out of the ether and is not somehow tied to like the dc like well it's like does it is it does it originate from the amazonian world somehow it is apparently uh the gods had items of import in the world the the lasso of truth is one of them and this thing is apparently one of them too uh okay i have a lot of waldemarts horcruxes i don't know what this one like i don't know how it works at all like what yeah a trickster gods you get one wish do you get infinite wishes do you have to say the wish out loud one does the stone decide like does it fill in the blanks if you're really vague in your wish does it have creative license over your wish who knows i wish to wish with no what about wishing for and just just no um fuck the consequences like i i wish for my wish to come with absolutely nothing that i am not happy with you know like a little thing is like yeah it initially have a really long run-on sentence is that one wish or does it like you know like i wish for this comma and also this is part of that original wish it's all one thing well i know i think there are some people in the movie who do wish for multiple things like that yeah cheetah barber does barber cheetah whatever name is oh you're talking about how she wishes not only to be like diana but to eventually be really powerful and apex predator yeah she gets two wishes but that wasn't that wasn't a wish granted by the guy yeah it seemed to be granted by his so so that's the thing about these mechanics that we're gonna have to wrestle over as we go through because they're so strange it seems when max well is is is getting wishes done that he gets to grant his own wish as a result that relates to taking something from the person almost like a monkey pulls gets to um delegate a payment that he'll take in response to the wish and he uses that to provide cheetah with her wish yeah he gives a payment from other wishes which other wish is that payment for one of the random wishes that come through that's so goddamn stupid yep it's all incredibly strange it seems like a very lazy plot device on the part of the screen writer is that excuse to bring back we will talk about it deeper in there but it's like he had to take something specifically that someone had like he'll take their health so i'm wondering who the hell did he take the um cheetah furthing from to give to the cheetah like right it was shown he had to take something to give something if it wasn't a wish and and she gets very well he made that he made that wall out of nowhere i don't think he took a wall from somewhere else so i think he designed the cheetah suit in his head i didn't give it to her i mean is it a suit or does she become like a hybrid no she becomes yeah yeah it's 100 but the thing is that could have happened if it was a wish for her to become the apex predator but she doesn't doesn't wish for it she says she wants to be an apex predator and then maxwell uses the mechanic of being able to take a payment for a wish to give her the apex okay okay okay what if a cat was watching and ah the cat made a wish that could do it that made a wish i mean if she can make a wish silently without saying a thing right then perhaps the cat was looking at it going man i could use a mouse right about now and it happened and that's how you know we got cheetah out of it you got it i think that's the cat the cat made a wish must i mean it's it is as logical as everything else yes it lines up real well uh so then random dude is like let me test it i wish for a coffee and then he's like lol that's stupid and then walks away and someone's like hey dude here's a coffee and he's like oh neat and he doesn't think twice about what just happened he's just like whatever but obviously our two characters that's enough to convince them they're like shit and so they're gonna have been a really funny like rewrite of this movie instead of max lord stealing it it's this coffee guy who comes in at night and but you can only have one wish per person so he's already used his coffee wish you're not going to account for that major plot hole correct wow see it seems like because when Maxwell has the wish mechanic he needs them to say it for it to take effect yeah like there's even one point where they say i want this like well you need a wish for it or do you wish for this and if they say yes bang is confirmed so it's pretty strong that there has to be a like an actual voicing of a wish or not only that you're right but not only that at one point his son tries to make a wish later and he's like oh no no no stop it but like he had already said the wish he just chooses to not grant it even though it was said out loud so no he wasn't touching him then so they have to touch him and so when the sun doesn't touch anyone in the last half of the i know that's where i know you're wrong they specifically say the word touch and that's enough they say with the the technology they have the touches involved through particles yeah so the light the light trying to try and nitpick when they were explicit explained it fully particles and touching god well if if the light from the screen is enough to touch them then the light from him in the room is enough to touch him yeah of course i mean it totally doesn't make sense but that's what they'll try to say is that the sun was about to make a wish but then he pushed away so it wasn't touching so the wish didn't stick and i'm not touching you yep yeah and then and then he was touching him when he says i want you to be great as well daddy or something like that and then that was his wish because the wind blew he was like oh well there there which is something we will need to to make sure we've made clear to people as we go forward with different things but when you wish a wind blows at you yes weird but you get a little gust of wind okay that will be important for the finale because it does mechanically come in i like anybody who doesn't know this story hearing that you'll be like what do you mean it's like oh you wait and so uh yeah i think this is seen mostly ends and uh i think it's just the Maxwell Lord ends up donating a portion of money to the this this group of people's stuff because he is that he wants to get that monkey sport right that's his goal does anyone know how he found out about it well just just uh research he has papers on it just like he reasons just yeah just found out he got some people did did some archaeology somewhere and they found it just don't know it but he does does this wish granting relic have like a comic book origin in the dc comics apparently Maxwell Lord's powers are not the same as in this film he's a telepathic person in in the comics okay i assume that most of this is made up right you can't even blame the comics rules make up to because it's like it's such a like they're basically making them into a genie which will make a story center around him a little bit harder to write when factoring in all of these various little rules and uh it seems like it was a very arbitrary decision to make their job a lot harder than it could have been it feels too built around the idea of bringing back Chris pine because they killed him off in the first movie it's like oh shit how do we bring him back like we shouldn't we need an actor yeah it's definitely what i know this thing that grants wishes you're right um and yeah so the watch that he'd given given here in the last film starts to wobble uh i don't know what they're implying is the watch is he about to reform with the watch odd because for some reason the watch simply works when his life essence is back on earth somewhere it's a metaphor guys you take me too seriously i just want to know what they would try to tell me that's all geez um so then we have this incredibly poorly written oh god like i miss good dialogue i really do um if i remember correctly because we made fun of this in the fringy fat movies it's basically these two are out together it's like neat uh then it was like do you come out much and dan is like no and she's like wow you're really hot though like that's that's essentially like how how the conversation you're like okay and then um uh they get on to the like they're trying to get them on to the topic of here talking about how she once fell in love and stuff it's incredibly clunky and um do they have a prior relationship or are they just friends now because she helped her pick up her papers i can't remember maybe at best they were like co-worker acquaintances they'd seen each other around but this is definitely the closest they've ever been before gal Gadot is really right it was like pity she felt bad and was like sure i'll go out to lunch with you sure i'll have a drink with the weird kid so it's it's charity okay and yeah kind of just waiting for the scene to end there's a lot of that in this film uh i think a lot of people felt that way um everything to do with have you ever been in love okay uh i thought you were asking mauler uh if you guys have a like watched a movie and thought the protagonist's plot line could be removed and the film would be better because that's how i felt in 184 if it was just about max well i feel like this film would have been a lot better max well this could have been like a 90s sort of like business dad doesn't spend enough time with his kid and kid wishes he'd spend more time with him or whatever you know that kind of movie it's funny because uh that's like the premise of of um like liar liar i think or maybe uh it's been awesome i've seen that movie but like a kid wishes that his dad will like stop lying i guess yeah yeah yeah and what's hilarious to me is that in that movie the the kid's name is max damn he ripped it off kind of they were inspired let's just put it that way but yeah you uh both the one woman i don't hesitate to call anything about this movie inspired but you know that's just mean you just hate you hate not only women probably men too you're just a big ol hater because because max well storyline it's beautiful in this okay honestly it kind of is well we'll talk a little bit about what i don't know shout did you feel anything about max well was working for you because we thought there was some stuff there i mean i i think the actor committed to the role and um he like it's interesting how over the top acting can sometimes sell and then sometimes not work i think his over the top actually sold a bit like made it work um and that was a little that was a little surprising um his motivation it worked and i wasn't sure if that was the corruption of the stone working on him or not where you know he wanted to be rich and have all the oil but when he becomes the stone is like wanting every wanting to grant everyone's wishes almost uncontrollably and i was like is yeah like a desire to grant wishes yeah it's like okay and yeah you're right because it doesn't make a lot of sense especially remember the one guy who was like oh i asked for a farm but i didn't ask for what what could he possibly why would he have stopped there at that moment to say hey you you need a farm don't you well it makes no sense like i wished for for a farm you know you saw it seems that he had as if the the stone itself had a innate desire to grant wishes it transferred to him when he became the stone um sure but i didn't see that that's the thing it was confusing so anyway christin wigs heading home and she's really nice to a hobo guy that'll pay off later i guess um when she's mean in front of him because that's writing uh and then she keeps on walking and unfortunately for her there is a sexual predator on the loose always you know seems like they're everywhere apparently and i'm not saying they don't exist i'm just saying their representation in film seems to be very unbalanced and yeah what is what is she especially the god what does she say to the hobo guy i don't know she gives me food yeah oh she does okay some of that i thought she told him to fuck off or something yeah this guy gets real real touchy feely real quick and uh of course as you do looking grim for our hero what will happen then through the power of editing he's kind of gone and she nearly falls but wonder woman catches her like huh what is happening here what is going on on and of course it would seem that wonder woman threw him across the room and grabbed Barbara i guess across the area i don't know oh wow we've defeated sexual harassment i guess for now and uh yeah and she's like weird i don't know and i don't understand why she would do why wouldn't she have just helped her and disappeared so that she wouldn't uh incriminate herself in terms of like who who's this vigilante because it's like it's obviously you but secondly why not just turn up as you you don't need to be wonder woman you just be like hey stop doing that and the guy would like oh shit another woman i feel like right away the antagonist would have been a lot more interesting if she was portrayed as like a competent professional refined employee who like succumbs to like the power of whatever it is that the relic grants her right rather than just being as pathetic as possible to maximize the arc of like you know she's this clumsy you know just pathetic character who nobody respects to this like super villain character i feel like yeah that was just i feel like i've seen this character before again and again well okay but the thing is that her arc stops halfway through and then they just completely ignore the rest of it she disappears for most of the film and then comes back at the end so like right there could be an arc there i actually and i know that this may be something that sounds controversial in this uh this but i would have liked to see more of her story i think that there is a potential character in her i think that she could have a cool arc um where she she you know like goes through all these things but they don't show that at all they take the cool sections that could be there and they just throw them the fuck out and then focus on the weird shit and that's going on in some other storyline despite spending so long with her in this film um it's really bare bones like uh look at her falling over look at her having no luck with man look at her feeling ugly look at her feeling uncomfortable look at her getting harassed and then the reverse happens when she gets her powers like now look at her people are watching her she moves by now she's pretty i don't know uh like she's really strong um he's also agile to a degree until when she and then she becomes a cheater also i just wanted to highlight the fact that one woman just like walks away without doing anything about the guy that like attempted to rape Barbara it's confusing it's like is he okay like i know that what he was doing was was wrong is he dead it's like no he'll be back later in the film for really awesome payoff can't wait to get there uh yeah round two let's start apprehending him or anything like that what that guy was doing was really bad of course i mean was he trying to rape her though i don't know this scene is obviously a little ambiguous as to what would have happened had uh one woman not gotten there in time though whatever he did up to that point doesn't in him the the death penalty i assume so maybe if you could just see if he's okay i don't know well she's obviously i'm gonna say that wonder woman is all right with sexual harassment because she watched it when the uh briefcase was knocked over she just stood there and watched she didn't stand up to anybody she's not like making her workplace better well she's fine the ultimate criticism also uh does the scene imply that the guy's also like drunk out of his mind i don't know that's excusing what he's doing but maybe yeah uh he seems to be constantly drunk i think this is like it's a personality so um she just takes off her clothes and and and then removes she doesn't remove the glasses yet directly after her wish so she wishes to be like she wishes goes to sleep wakes up and now we're at that point yeah so um yeah she she keeps on her baggy top that just takes off her skirt and she's wearing her leggings underneath and now she's attractive she's agile and to a degree like lucky now too it's like oh things have changed this a lot of type things are getting different and look at look at it wearing things that uh accentuate her body now immediately too wow how life is changing for her thanks to that monkey's paw it feels so generic doesn't it it's like oh oh look guy who used to be mean to her is like whoa you're like attractive anymore boxes to take guys shallow babies first hey look at you the way they do it it's so bad it's so i hate this guy he had i hate the guy because he had a pop collar i i just don't like pop collars there's a scene where he has two pop collars oh fuck pop oh my god i think it comes up later there's a pink shirt and a white shirt that both have pop collars i remember that the doucheiest of all plays the duel and then pop collar then we get Maxwell lord he is introduced uh uh and i guess it's here to carry the movie yeah let's make sure yeah Pedro Pascal is actually like acting in this film it's pretty cool compared to Mandalorian like in this he's doing all kinds of emotions and he's playing a character with many layers it was neat to see he's honestly the main thing that i found entertaining and engaging about this film uh and so you immediately get this blast of he's well known he's rich he's charismatic and uh he's he's obviously the the person that is going to be helping fund them but his ulterior motive is to get at the monkey's paw um i don't honestly like the scene where they just meet up that's pretty much that uh the only thing to probably highlight is the i don't know that everybody's really happy and paying attention to uh Barbara now Kristen wig is more popular how terrifying and you got suspicious i suppose this is a good time as any to mention the fact that uh max lord is the best part of this movie and steve forever being the best part of the original the first wonder woman means that the best part of the wonder woman movies are the men damn there's that um maybe not the best if you're like trying to go for a female empowerment sort of movie that the most interesting and compelling characters are the men but also dude the part with all man has to convince the woman to let him go like not that empowering for her i'd say that um it's only a natural consequence of having much better actors playing the male characters and also giving them like actual material to work with as opposed to what they do with diana yeah well that's a big part of it yeah if wonder woman was as charismatic as peter baskell is in this movie it'd uh it'd be a lot better for sure well hey she worked she went to that one child okay did we talk about how diana just hated this guy for no apparent reason she just walked in and was like suss on him she can tell bad character you know like like evil people just by looking at them because she's perfect must and also um the other lady she was fully into him they would say like they were building chemistry and then wonder woman comes in and basically cuts her off like you could you suggest suggesting that she is a chemistry black hole what are you what how dare you but even even in the dialogue right they're they're talking and then she which really kind of cuts off says shouldn't you get back to work now like she's trying to it's like here's a girl who doesn't get a lot of interaction with men and you know and uh and it looks like she's getting somewhere with someone now then wonder woman just says all right enough of this okay that didn't seem too nice so max when he's coming into his building is like the payoff is going to be what we learn about uh is monetary state but uh it was just funny that like one of his secretaries it's like oh no i just missed you before i could tell you something really important it's like couldn't be that important you had a really long time to tell him as he was moving through the whole building but okay um and they do a quick there's a magazine about the king of crude oil i guess and the obviously we know that he's supposed to be that and he's looking really sad this is way better than what they did with christin wig already it's like wait you just showed him to be really confident and uh charismatic and everyone knows him yet he's really annoyed and arguably sad in this elevator while looking at a magazine it's like hmm i wonder what's going on he's looking at all these past due bills like i understand now and then you get the big visual of his office is essentially being cleared out there's nobody really there and it's all a mess like it's all a show he's not just one-dimensional evil corporate guy that he actually is well rounded that's what i mean he's uh it's not too bad yeah and his son is here which is awkward and that's what the secretary is trying to tell him is that this was his weekend or whatever to take care of the sun and he doesn't want the sun to see this obviously because maybe it is there oh yeah it's old baby but um i feel like in a matter of 30 seconds we've got the premise of this character now it's all sorted and the main they did it really well yeah i feel i mean just compared to the christin wig one which is embarrassing but this one is like i see okay all right cool i'm interested let's see where he goes and the um i like that his major thing is that he wants to look impressive and great to his son rather than just i want power or something like that um he wants us on to think of him as successful that's that's neat we can you know we can go places with that and i think at this point when we were watching it we were like oh shit this is like a scene that's interesting we had that like we had that like we were watching with quiet investment as you would put it and yeah he's trying to explain to his son that like things are chill it's fine stop so we're in but there's a there's a dude in the room one of his investors who is tired of his bullshit and um what's interesting at this point is we weren't sure if he was genuine or not max well as in like if he was tricking his investors because he knew that the company was a disaster or if he believed that he really could succeed and i think at this point it is that he believes it and this ties into that opening scene you see he should accept that he's only ever gonna make it through evil means and that his position right now is loss you know stop wishing for things to be better guys evil wishes are for liars the truth will set you free and yeah the the investor basically just tells him fuck you uh and i think it the scene ends with him trying to balance in you know reassuring his son with anger that everything is falling apart and again Pedro Pascal has to act it's pretty cool i don't know if you guys have seen that before you know acting i mean it's refreshing yeah i i loved him in arcos especially yeah he was great in arcos i hear that well he was fucking i thought he was great in Game of Thrones i just don't get why um he was yeah what they did with him in mando he he doesn't really do anything now he's wasted in mando i agree because people people say like he's got the helmet on it's like yeah but he still has a voice you can do a lot with a voice yeah he does a lot with his voice in this movie that's for sure and a lot of people i've heard describe him as over the top in this movie and i like i can get that but he's the only interesting character so i don't know there's a weird thing between like obviously he's a little bit cartoonish in the way he um not in his character but like his mannerisms and behavior he's kind of over the top but at least it's interesting you know at least it's compelling to watch it's like it's not the same sort of energy but it's like jack Nicholson the shining i mean i can believe some people this character in the 80s trying to follow that american dream and just not quite getting it and trying to impress i can believe he's a he's a larger than life character as they call it yeah over the top do exist where they're even their expressions are overly exaggerated for effect like this might not be the best example it's the other one because of why if you have a look at some of the um footage of musselini and the way he acted and the posed and stuff in when he was talking it's like he's a caricature it's like what he really acted like that and he really did wow and so there are people who exaggerate their expressions to almost a unrealistic way in the real world and so yeah he's and he's super compelling in this movie you just kind of like stare at him in silence the whole time like there's all this crazy nonsense happening but whenever he's on screen you're like oh you just shut up and pay attention it's great well we were way more excited to see his scenes than any other character oh yeah the the role that he's playing in Mandalorian strikes me as a very like the most uncompelling role for an action that you could possibly imagine just because like he's supposed to be a very like monotone unemotional character and not only that but he's constantly wearing a fucking helmet like there's no rage you can't you can't show off at all like your acting ability it's just like put on the suit do the action do the thing like there's just no dimensionality to it also hi rex i guess you only take a role like that because it's star wars yeah sorry rex hey but so no it's fine i just gotta uh buy a little bit of a change of plans it's it's raining here and my car's windshield wipers are not working so i'll add that to the pile of the to the pile of things in my life i gotta take care of but that means i can't make this trip so here i am however fortuitously we're on my my favorite scene in Wonder Woman 84 this is uh this is the best one i don't think he's being sarcastic everyone i think he's been serious no i am yeah i am i i'm i'm being completely 100 in earnest here yeah this is i think the best scene in the film though i think it's very closely tied with another scene with these characters in this location that happens later yes but this is where we were legitimately like became interested and invested in a character in what they cared about talk about confusion in terms of like oh i'm ready to just laugh at this film and then this film presents this and you're okay hmm all right if that's what we want to do yeah uh we were super interested to see where this goes unfortunately they completely squander this idea in concept and characters but man for a moment they had us and every time you're interested in Maxwell cut back to Wonder Woman you're like no Wonder Woman shit yeah i wonder what's gonna be in this movie about Wonder Woman yeah i think i feel like she brings Wonder Woman down and if we can just get rid of the Wonder Woman element these films will be great make it yeah Maxwell 84 so we've sort of been calling it because she's just like a personality black hole and there's nothing you could get from her it's all just there's nothing her face is constantly blank her delivery is horrible and then you have that compared to Maxwell and Pedro acting and you're like damn it's like night and day i don't give a shit about Diana and her character we could call it that but man it's just she's so shit in her own movie it is such a shame they did nothing with her so i'm gonna do the best i can to explain what happens next because i get lost to myself so she wants to find the uh the monkey's paw and she finds um the receipt at the bottom of it for it being sold to max lord presumably or is this Maxwell provided it so i think max bought it on the black market through the internet and they and the uh you know black market dealers say okay sold to max lord and they were gonna get ready to ship it out to him before the robbers came in and stuffed everything up right and so it's in here which means this gives one woman the lead to go to she goes to a party is it at his house well this is the weird thing right so i'm assuming she thinks max took it because it's not there but in reality it's in the other lady's office yeah so she just asked around the office a bit more she would have found it but she doesn't mm-hmm yeah and it's really hard but yeah back to christin wig this is this is the film it goes max all the way like ooh what a woman oh christin wig oh my god you're in the film yeah okay this film is a roller coaster of disappointment in hope yeah it's it really tricks you so here she is super hot christin wig they removed her glasses and look at the one does it did she's almost a completely transformed person and you're just sitting there like huh oh my god even the much different she's wearing something tight exactly she was doing that the last time we saw her her legs anyway like it's and look at this woman it's like whoa that was improvisation is she even the chick who works here he's looking in multiple directions at one time even she can tell that this chick is whoa smoking smoking like i i work here can i just say i don't really you don't really what is she is she paranormal influenced at this point can i just say she's not really hot i'm sorry i don't find christin wig hot i'm sorry the character in so many is that why no it's because her arc would work if she actually became hot and she's not hot so it doesn't really work for me i'm just i just putting it out there i don't understand she took her glasses off though because she didn't become hot but she was always attractive oh wait is he saying he's saying she's ugly oh i don't find her no i just don't find her attractive so i i'm not buying all of this happening this i mean it's why i'm trying to find it if you find chris other people can find her attractive i start you got choppy right rags i'm sorry single force not helping us right no no no well like but everyone you could see why people would find her attractive right yeah i mean it doesn't do it for me but i could see that yeah i think she's attractive if i have you know no three wishes but pretty good i'm just curious if this has anything to do with the relic or if she's just trying a new outfit out right now oh well so there is an element of does it just make people attracted to it because of as part of the thing i would assume there's a supernatural allure happening because of the wish right that's my take yeah probably um so yeah it's just it's just bizarre to watch because you're like but all she did was take the glasses off though and it's like no it's just bizarre yeah if all it if all she needed to do was a makeover did you really need the relic that's the lesson she has to learn right so the relic also like influences people to like be enamored with her right i think so i see so that's also an element of it yeah just translate a lot of things translate weird in this film in terms of just what's happening right now oh yeah we had a huge misunderstanding about like diana's powers and everything until like the end i don't know we're probably still at that point pretending like everything's been made clear so yeah christin wig and gal Gadot turn up to this place this place is also the place in which christin wig gives up here or max well gets the monkeys force so it's it's the office still right yeah what are they already at the office or do they leave to go to the office in this scene they i assume it's like the same building right it's just a little in a large building yeah it's the smithsonian i think yeah okay they have a big place and there's a lot of buildings in the smithsonian and you can walk from one to the other just want to make sure because i couldn't tell if she's trying to get to max to find out if he's got the monkeys poor that's what wonder woman's doing meanwhile christin wig is just because she's attractive slash he wants to get to her office i can't remember if he finds out more like he wants to get into her orifice which one funny hey any holes ago no that made me giggle yeah creating the nose i mean nose no i need a hole maybe some of that maybe that's what the weird monkeys paw rock power was like i'm gonna take away all of your normal fetishes give you these fucking weird ones it's all that's left that is a that's a strong meme right there we're too spicy to suckle oh my goodness you know dick suckle does a lot of hard work and i think we should appreciate it he work he does work hard i will say that um and yeah so they they get close real fast and through the seduction max well provides he sneaks the uh the monkeys poor which is weird because he probably could just get it himself anyway couldn't he just walk to there i don't know it's a weird scene because it's just like why did you do all of this to get it you could have just gotten it yeah it was the door also where did he put it uh in its pocket you i'm talking about a hole rags um i guess yeah because they they go to our office and i think they're gonna just just do the do and he sneakily grabs it do the do it's the it's the monetizable way of saying they fuck but they don't actually or at least i don't know i don't know they're not going to show that on wonder woman when he grabs the thing so after there's a there's a joke in here somewhere i'm trying desperately to form it perhaps her thing oh no no rocks i i'm getting their rocks off some yeah i'm trying to try to i'm trying to work it into the narrative in some seamless way which i've already clearly abandoned but we're just gonna have to chop this one up though it wasn't meant to be um so that's yeah that's his plot line meanwhile wonder woman still not entirely clear of what her goal is she's sort of just walking around and then nerdy guy is like hello and she's like ew i am leagues ahead of you therefore you're insulting me yeah diana's an asshole she wasn't the first one too because like when she first meets steve trevor she's all friendly and smiles and then when that guy the um the guy that's part of their team i think he's the indian or something who is that guy oh yeah Turkish or something the act yeah the guy oh my god you're the most beautiful woman i've ever seen and she's like yeah okay gross like she's so rude i wonder if that's the influence from the writer where she's like isn't it annoying being an awesome hot woman when guys try to go out with you it's like uh oh yeah that must be or it must be really tough what a what a hard life you know they won't complain but it's like it's a steve trevor type though they'll be like oh that's chill that's cool yeah okay speaking of um oh introducing guy we have guy and it's a little confused officially hey why who's this guy and he says a thing this is a thing that's like only someone steve would say so it's like whoa and after she's addicted to this dude yeah because she's addicted to everybody and by the way her mission is completely stunted by this she doesn't even continue it right she just hangs out with him uh of course she's missed him for yeah that's true it's fine choosing love over duty that's the that's the thematic undertone yeah she's she's been missing him for 65 years so a little bit strange for anybody watching this because you're just like first of all steve's back somehow but he's in this body question mark and the camera does a little spin around until uh some poor innocent guy's body that's that's the first thing we need so yeah i'm just getting the shot there you go yeah and around that is steve right there and so for the for the chat might be confused nobody sees him as chris pine we do because of course we that's just making it easier for filming i guess everyone sees him as other guy um but what the fuck really but chris pine yeah and what's worse is that this is so poorly communicated to the viewer it is really badly they have to have a yeah we didn't know what at first that this is the way things were however they have to devote a part of another scene later on to him standing in front of a mirror just to cement the fact for the audience that he doesn't look like this to anybody except for wonder woman because they just nailed the delivery here and it's so clear do you want to take the implications of this but also she says that whatever i look at you i just see you know steve right implying that this is she's just doing it in her own imagination when she actually looks at the guy it is the other guy she's pretending that she can see steve like because the mirror confirms she's hallucinating steering never thought she actually looks like chris pine to her yeah what are you right imagining it yeah yeah i thought he actually sees him as chris pine i thought it only looked like chris pine for our convenience that no one actually sees him as chris pine included oh i wonder what chris pine no i i i assume she sees him as guy well i but they have chris pine for the entire film being the actor so i assume that meant that because we're kind of with diana and him that it was chris pine to diana but not to anyone else i assume i assume he looks like guy to everyone we don't see him that way yeah we have a split orally communicates this so much that we don't even know but it's a bit of both she is pretending like she's making her own mind that is you know when i look at you i see chris but the reality is when she physically looks at him confirmed by the mirror part when he sees his reflection it is the other girl that's him looking at him and us looking at what other people see how much how does she see him as chris pine once she knows he's chris pine how does that work it doesn't work i you're at don't even they asked me how it works slower because there's people saying i'm wrong it's like i i've only reported what i saw i don't know what to tell you i have no idea which one it is i just thought it was that way this is this is what is i what's very important though is that that's his character's consciousness in that body yes forced her yes yes yes hundred percent that and for those curious what happens to the so the wish of bringing steve traver back to life made it so the cosmic gods of the monkey paw took his essence for lack of a better word his soul his spirit his personality and dropped it into the body of guy who is credited as handsome guy i believe handsome man and uh he doesn't even get a name and he's poor basket doesn't even get a name meanwhile his his essence his soul his personality whatever is either dug so deep that it has no influence on steve at all or it's just gone temperate it's in like a pocket universe waiting to re-occupy his own body so i like to imagine it's been folded into a you're going around your regular day and you suddenly get possessed and control of your body is taken away from you and you just go into ethem blackness you don't you're not aware of anything now but someone has just stolen your body like or alternatively uh he can see and experience everything that's happening but he has no control over it which is even more horrifying oh my god that would like the thing is though because we see him at the end and he doesn't recognize diana so that means he wasn't aware of anything that was going on the shower what if it just erased his memory along with all the wishes what if it just and he was there screaming oh please don't don't run me towards gunfire they like why couldn't i come back when i was balls deep and gal gadot yeah well oh drags might have sprained steve driver alive like if they were gonna bring magic shit up what did why did they just revive steve driver that's exactly nobody knows that is a good question the only why why is this terribly uncomfortable scenario the only uh thing bone to potentially not even really throw bone to whittle away near them is that they show the photo of him being a hero of will war one especially in the local area i think or something the concern that if he were to come back the way is he could get recognized and that causes plot issues or something which i find incredibly abusing because yeah of course he's been gone for 60 plus years and who's gonna be able to tell that like i just like the idea that they thought about that as a team of writers they came up with that they didn't realize what they'd just done well are they abandoned that idea because wonder woman and diana look exactly the same one just has a circlet and no one ever pieces that together so but like as if no one as if anyone would be able to really uh think that if someone that looks like alvin york or adi murphy was walking around today that they would actually think oh that's actually a guy from world war two adi murphy oh i thought you were talking about adi murphy for a second and i was very confused adi murphy actual like world war two bad ass it would be well adi murphy is a hero that would have recognized chris pine you were saying shad yeah it would have been extremely unlikely that anyone would have recognized chris pine if they just rematerialized his body from the wish i like and i don't think that they care enough about continuity as proven by everything we talked about so far is that even you guys are i think the issue with the recognizing chris pine thing is that the the magic is such that it can change the minds of everybody yeah in the world essentially so it doesn't even matter just the magic can be they don't recognize them correct so why right it this way that we had this arbitrary rule they were trying to follow that the wishes could not create matter if you wish for something it needed to be come from something that was already in the world and yeah they don't understand that they decided oh god it raises his bones from the they they make a giant wall around the entire like middle eastern country so but they never show that it's from somewhere else just do the just do the simple things like it can't change people's minds like people keep their free will essentially um like bruce almighty essentially yeah it's it's the like the Aladdin rules you can't make people fall in love you can't kill anybody and this could be on in this could have been in the scene where they have the Mayan dude um because the apparently the relic is a like an old Mayan demon curse this thing to give wishes so that could be part of the story where you know the trickster goddess kawakla kukul bukul had you know these three rules that would determine you know as long as they the three rules were followed the the wish no matter what it was could be granted or something like that and they could give themselves some rules but they don't and so then anything becomes possible which ruins everything because it's so nonsensical and crazy so here's the million dollar question why write it this way that bringing him back he eats an innocent person out of existence because he's a man and fuck men and well i have no idea but it gets worse when you think about it because throughout from the point him coming back through to the rest of the film to the point where she renounces her wish right they are perfectly fine with him being in the yeah for ever basically and that's what they want wonder woman wants steve to stay in the body forever to live with him until he dies which effectively means they're okay with killing this poor guy that they're effectively saying wonder woman is okay with murdering this person yeah though they don't they don't register that whatsoever they have no idea that we were waiting for it yeah we were waiting for the point where the film recognizes what it's done and maybe diana says you know i'm so glad that you're back i'm so happy to see you but this isn't right you know that what about this guy's life because they they go through his apartment in like his photos and they use his mirror and shit and they fuck on his bed and you're like at what point i get rags i need to stop you there because this means yeah big part this is the big okay before you go uh moriarty now i'm going to get such a murderer she is now also okay i'm not kidding right this is analogous to some guy getting a cheek drunk in a bar where she's unconscious then he puts on a mask over her of his ex-girlfriend that is dead and then that's what wonder woman does in this movie you know how much they did i don't care about the guy they if the if what you say is true they credit him as handsome guy they don't think he's a non-anime he doesn't even get a name he doesn't even get a name guys he's just so much advice and most importantly if we can bring that up this confirms what i said during the film that he is a handsome guy so fuck you it's such a like if you could speak to patty jenkins you'd be like you disrespectful moronic fucking child how did you write this as wholesome wholesome rape what is wrong with you romantic believe it or not it gets worse because how do you fucking up so much and how does no one we are all of us did when we were watching it we were waiting for the scene where diana realizes i'm so happy to see you i'm glad it's wonderful but this isn't right yep i remember what i was told as a little girl about that fucking lie thing and this is that thing that's happening where you've stolen it doesn't even really fit that well but it's whatever close enough yeah but you're like it's surely like this super heroine right which is not only the drug you have to take to enjoy this movie but you would also expect from our protagonist that you'd get this goodness i guess just general goodness but the scene never comes or she recognizes that this can't go on and it has to end until she needs to get her powers back yeah exactly so she doesn't learn she doesn't learn that her wish to have him back at the expense of yeeting some poor innocent handsome man out of existence is selfish she learns that it well she doesn't learn anything because she the only reason she renounces her wish is because she needs her powers it's consistent with the intro right i mean little little wonder woman is crying but we don't realize we don't see that she gets the lesson it's kind of like the ending where she doesn't even be a hero she's just like i i need to eat him so bye steve so it's like moriarty does indeed have to leave us now i'm just gonna allow him this yes thank you so much it's it's been fun sir i guess we'll catch you the next time we do happy new years thank you very much for having me here 2020 has been a really great year um yay because i've been able to hang out with you guys i've had a lot of fun we've watched a lot of movies and this is the last one of 2020 so like you know this is my only chance to say this thank you so much all of you i really appreciate it oh and uh i'm gonna jump off like awesome you're way better than wonder woman 84 oh no wholesome rate just wholesome in general look it doesn't count if they don't remember okay oh goodness all right guys bye bye see you Sylvia's still bound another bigot gone good riddance we need to construct what's what's going on with this poor guy a bit more because like i i mean i'm baffled i cannot believe in what universe that they let this happen in the movie and they portrayed it as a okay thing like i i i i cannot believe it and i'm thinking is it because wonder woman was hot and any guy even if i'm conscious would be like hey i did it with wonder woman and if you reverse the wrong on this i've seen that on twitter some people like in fairness what guy wouldn't want this it's like what do you know i wouldn't want to be forced to have sex against their words no i think shan i think it's worse someone says to the girl hey do you enjoy it like i think i i have to say i think it's worse because the movie is all right go ahead no you go ahead oh you you for it okay uh i think it's hard i'll talk about something if one of you look like it's romantic right yeah no i did did you hear me i i did you did you guys hear me i don't go ahead we can worry about sure so i'm just saying it's worse because the movie is like yeah yeah the movie is like making it look romantic yeah the movie's the movie doesn't treat it like it's a mistake in a horror oh my love from 60 years ago or some shit and so you're you're cutting out a lot weekend yeah i'll try to connect it all right so what if this guy had a girlfriend or even worse i mean look at his face he's definitely got a dude imagine he had a family or friends who never get to see him again or at least they've lost that guy forever potentially what if what if his name is actually guy like guy pierce and people call him handsome guy like fat neil from community well that's for a long time his name is gi god that's so slimy that when they were getting the credit sorted they didn't give him a name and so the guy doing the credit was like uh i don't know how do what's the identifying feature of this guy guy i guess like they couldn't they couldn't even have like i don't know some sort of degree on the wall that's got his name on it just so that they can give him a name anything anything at all humanize him even further so the horror is yeah david johnson or something like fucking neil druckman did a better job at humanizing the npcs than this movie did gosh i mean what if he what what if he gets recognized on the street right with him oh i mean they like they break several laws like they break into the smithsonian and that's his base on the canvas no i thought he meant like laws of logic like oh yeah i'll say human legal laws laws of physics they've turned him into a criminal they've turned him into a fugitive in this movie i have to say this is my body or he wakes up in a cell in jail it's it's way worse than what uh captain marvel did to the dawn i'm sorry it is yeah yeah this is existential this is sorry yeah it's way worse captain marvel didn't rape him and at least when he got his hand hurt he was probably okay the next day and he probably did get his bike back because it was reported as stolen in the movie so he got his stuff back so yeah this guy's way worse i can't believe a female superhero worse than captain marvel they're all pretty bad that's incredible but ray they never were things twice about it yeah well the problem is that even though what captain marvel did wasn't as bad she did it in a malicious way whereas gal Gadot just seems like an idiot who doesn't have any concept of like like that this is a problem that's true so it makes it kind of harder to weigh up well at least at least wonder woman is a somewhat flawed character captain marvel has no flaws that was my biggest piss off with that character it's like she's just perfect treat these actions like they're bad but that's the thing like how could wonder woman not know this is happening she can look at the guy and see it's not his face even an idiot someone else's he knows this isn't him and she's like all right i'm gonna kiss you i'm gonna have sex with you no her no wonder woman is so stupid that her she can't connect like the neurons in her brain won't connect these two things together see yeah i think that is a greater stretch than what i think is implying that she just doesn't give a crap because she has her hubby now like yeah i with a normal person i would probably agree but wonder woman's really dumb like for how smart she is she's really dumb like i can speak 712 languages but at the same time i think that if i kill aries all war will end like men just a scenario she's incredibly stupid worst case scenario she's the most selfish person ever all right i really don't think she should have kissed him because it because she still rapes the guy yeah um even just the kiss is like whoa whoa like you should be having the discussion immediately but they just don't it's weird because if she kissed him like immediately it's that of almost like reflex like oh my god chris you're you're here i can't believe it and then she kissed chris pine and that was it i'd be like okay i understand that it's like i understand some people saying like she's naive though it's like she can't be naive after 65 years on this planet oh she she is a superhero she could be super naive super naive like by kissing him i don't like the implication that there's no physiological component in her being attracted to him like she can see that it's a different guy but it's just like oh it's the personality of chris pine so i'm in love i don't is that is that what's going on i need a reference for that mid discussion on that before something else derailed our train of thought because i thought that she saw him as chris pine everyone else saw him as handsome guy she she sees him as handsome guy she can't see him as some guy right but i thought that was like the magic like working when he when she she can now she could see like at first she can't but then when he holds her close what is that anything it's like oh i could see you as you are chris pine now i see it but that's just something the audience so yeah i unless there's a line that i'm missing here where she says like i can see you as you know even that i would just choose to interpret she means i can see you for who you are rather than handsome guy um but yeah the fact that she's like stop following the weird person to me is like yeah she sees him as that throughout the whole film as does everyone else but we see him as chris pine for you know simplicity's sake so we can understand what the fuck's happening well but she never initially it creates it makes it more complex that chris pine is the actor for who i'm with rags for just everyone involved i mean for the audience i um they want you everyone is supposed to see him as him they want you to forget that he's not chris pine i think because it's hard i think that that was just a convenient byproduct and the real reason was they wanted it to be chris pine the famous talented actor i'm with rags on this one too i think that it just makes sense that they would want to have chris pine come back because it was his no you've missed my point entirely of course they want chris pine on screen what i'm suggesting is we don't have any more scenes of hey this is handsome guy to random public or this is handsome guy still to gal gadot in a mirror anything no references because they don't want you thinking about that at all uh i'm not sure if it's a matter of they don't maybe a hundred percent that the fact that we're actually trying to remind the film that rape has happened is clear evidence that they don't in any way want to actually recognize us what they've done i don't know if they even thought about that being a thing though exactly you're yeah it well no i don't think they were trying to hide the fact it was rape i don't even think that they were thinking about it i'm suggesting that that's evidence that they have not even thought this through at all but they just want to skip over that entirely i don't think they ever thought that it was like rape they just want to skip over the fact that this is a deep trap yeah yeah i could see that yeah by the way everyone who hasn't seen this film this is the discussion of wonder woman 84 we can't figure out what the fuck this film was even trying to say like it's so hard don't you guys miss the days when the biggest contention that people had with the dc us interpretation of the superheroes of dc comics was superman snapping zod's neck i remember those days neck or batman being the punisher yeah hey man that fight sequence in bvs was cool i was expecting i was expecting the return of this character to be stupid i didn't think it was going to be this stupid like this flat out does not fucking work like the fact we're having this discussion like it doesn't work it's stupid like i i i i think she's choosing to see chris pein and like the audience is seeing what she wants to see basically based on the reveal but like the personality literal what her eyes perceive is still handsome guy but she of course treats the character entirely as though he's chris pein yes right maybe i i don't even know i don't even know well here's another reason that we're all confused about this the movie cuts from that two hours later and skips over all the interesting questions that any normal person would have to ask steve about how this all works how did this happen it just cuts right to like oh were you in a good place and he's like yeah i was in a i was in heaven basically sort of implies it's happened and then they just move on they skip now i'm back in fucking washington dc you know i find funny about this as well as the the only reason we want to get this clear is so that we could make the criticism perfectly clear because it's until you get all because it's wrong no matter what we just want to get the pieces right and the film was just like yeah what are the pieces tell me yeah and you would expect that even though gal Gadot's an idiot and may might not even in her extremely super dumb brain think about it surely chris pein yeah he was an idiot like he was he did a lot of he did dumb things in wonder woman one but he wasn't an idiot well yeah so thinking like yeah i'm buying another man's body i would argue it's a missing opportunity to have him go around the house of this person he's taken over see the family photos and see the life they've crafted and be like shit i've just he's the one who wants to tell wonder woman this can't go on she's so desperate to have him but chris pein is like no you've got to let me go you've got to move on i mean it's constantly that wasn't the message that should have been the message like that's like taking a shortcut it's like a selfish wish the message of the film is you have to let chris pein go also gary how you doing you're probably getting his microphone to work baby i don't know uh i was i was gonna ask him if he had said hi just immediately his thoughts on the rape scene from woman one of an a call haven't heard anything yet but we're in the middle of a very confusing discussion about what the fuck happened exactly great thing to ask about films yeah just how wrong is the film it's like different degrees yeah we're arguing over the degree of how wrong it is this movie is made by self-proclaimed feminists right yes yeah allegedly ostensibly so strongly out of anything that they are showing this you know handsome guy as nobody and nothing a faceless characterless entity an object they have objectified this guy so much that it's okay to rape him have sex with his body against his will against without his consent and it's perfectly okay like oh my goodness i'm just i i i can i'm i'm still in awe and astounded by this and have they been pushed that far to disregard male rights that that hasn't didn't even go on their radar when they were writing this or making this film late because i think it's i don't think it's disregard actively i think it's just they don't even think about thinking about it that's what i mean like if this happened to a female character people would be screwed screwed bloody i don't know that they ever realized at any point i don't even think that there was a moment when someone said wait couldn't someone interpret this in a bad way and pati went no i don't think that ever even happened never at all no that that conversation never took place even though i was a gambling dog but if this happened to me this would have been the one of the greatest horrors of my life i'm married right so if someone possessed my body and went and had sex sure yeah you are like what the freaking hell you know i believe it dude in that scene where they're next to the pool next to the monument it'd be great if in the reflection it was the other guy but of course they're not gonna do that imagine i imagine the guy imagine the guy he took control oh shit hey gary how you doing hey hi everyone we're talking about that awesome movie that came out recently about a superhero wonder woman 1984 oh it's beautiful yeah what are you feeling about wholesome rape oh really good about it i'm glad they brought it back into filmmaking it's been it's time to bring it back damn it yeah i was missing it i haven't seen a woman sexually assaulting a man since the last jedi and i feel like i was just running out of uh running out of references for it there we go emotionally resonant it is it is you can uh you can you know rape a guy and then once you get rid of we're discussed yeah once you get rid of the guy you are free to you can fly afterwards once you free yourself of the d uh that's true yep well as mrs nerotic says the penis is a prison so yeah i don't know because we've we've been so along with this i feel as though i guess it's time for us to move on is anything else anyone wants to say about this horrific scene and why in the world they made it we will move on i just i'm i'm speechless about it i mean or i cannot believe that it passed all the quality shakes it's in the film flat out wonder woman is now rapist it's i i'm amazed by it i mean oh i can't believe it i think i want to make a video just speaking about it on my own channel because wow man this is this is a new level for me yeah and but i just what i just keep coming back to is it's fucking magic they didn't have to write it this way nope well all they could have done is i think it would have been really cool if chris pine reappears at like the moment of his death where he's got a he's got a 1911 in his hand he's sitting down he's aiming backwards he's got his bomber jacket and jacket and everything on and he just suddenly reappears in front of her the moment that he died he's back now and he's super confused he's like what the fuck is going on here and everyone around her they see this happening too and like oh my god it could have been cool instead i would have i would have taken that easily over what they're what they're doing here yeah like as none of them neither makes any fucking sense but i would take well we assumed this is the worst thing they could have done yeah we we assumed from seeing this that uh the idea was uh this is the drawback they're gonna say like you've taken over someone's life and thus you have to give that life back and you have to undo the wish that doesn't come up at all it's just never no we were waiting for it too but it never did you know he has to give him up wait so long hello about uh about how far are we into the movie at this point oh god don't even it's 50 minutes so you know that's a chunk that's a good chunk that's sort of the way there like encap standards yeah we're uh oh my god we're four hours of stream jesus okay we're never gonna get to anything uh yeah well you know the pace we'll pick up i'm sure um because i you know i just wanted to say one more thing like high top films and brown table are simping for this movie and i love the fact that we have this scene um that could potentially pressure them into changing their minds eventually i think anybody who praises this film wants to walk it back once they hear about this how did it make you feel guys how does this make you feel hopeful i felt so hopeful this hope for film film isn't destroyed yay um i didn't think i didn't think we were that far into the film so we're almost an hour in yes yeah still better pace than its predecessor all right i needed to add another thing right so it's amazing that the people who made the film didn't pick up on this but equally amazing it's that no one else who's watched the film apart from i don't know people looking at uh so many people that have completely missed this they're completely unaware of it and if anything says about the disregard for you know men's rights that they give evies i think that says it pretty clearly like there's these other people saying the film is perfect when it has something this big and this terrible in it and they are oblivious to it well yeah imagine if this was like a male lead superhero film and the your male protagonist of this to a woman like holy shit the backlash would break the internet that's right and i feel that there should be as equal backlash to this film because of this like this should be the largest talking point on the internet out of anything regarding this film this point right here and i've heard no one address it yet i can't believe chrithpine he is a man though so like the only way that they could wreck on this to be like somewhat sensible is a handsome guy found his way to the monkey's pie and wish that he could have sex with the one a woman like it's you know monkey's pie effect like that could actually work but uh quite a work around yeah that would be no that would be the thing they take away is he got to have sex with one woman but he doesn't remember it oh that's pretty bad i've had a week of trying to like how could they canonically fix this right without like wrecking the whole thing that's it that's the only thing that i can come up with just add that in on the uh the extended cut the thing about the monkey's paw is that the wishes come at the expense of some aspect of the wishers life but in this case it just like some random guy gets fucking well is life erased well no it's because that's unrelated well that's it's like a double whammy unfortunately so the rock wants diana's powers i guess yeah so because she she wishes to the rock and so does what's her name barbara she also wishes to the rock so the rock just sort of like takes stuff it takes something back whereas max well was taking things that would be useful to him which was a concept that they butchered but it's something yeah but like i guess the rock chose the things it would take from you kind of uh what did it take from barbara what was her drawback a kindness it became a perfect kindness she's like we will we will give you everything you want but you'll be a meter person you're like all right i guess all right well it's yeah it seems a little bit unfair because it's just changing you as a person other people have to pay more than anything else yeah because with the wonder woman one you think there might be some kind of thematic or mechanical rule that really does make sense that it took her power to give steve travel back it's more just like that's just it does that and that's what makes it such a hard choice to give him up like oh okay imagine it like i think we went over this in the recording it's like you know imagine it just gave it bad luck from now on or she clothes never fit right or she's just she's depressed a bit like instead it's like no we took all of your wonder doesn't even take a wonder woman powers it takes them like a portion of them drains them over time yeah very gone they just get weaker and weaker and i guess she just she's still super human but not as much she can't just tank her way through every scenario she can't just hold w and right click and just just fucking beat the game you know so um life is now on very easy instead of extremely easy difficulty she's uh so max well has become the stone um which he got really lucky with how that turned out with his weird egg he's like i wish to be the buggies porous actually the the stone breaks apart i'd have to check the wording specifically it's just funny that he didn't himself become a christly stone thing and just fall over yeah interesting idea this was still when we were on board with his whole plan and it was like oh this is interesting where he becomes you know the the stone source and all that and i like it as a workaround in the same vein as i wish for infinite wishes it's like i wish to be the wishing stone it's like oh that's an interesting idea where you go with that um so yeah that happens when someone holds his hands and then asks to also be able to grant wishes well i guess they get to grant wishes is the is what is the way that is the way that he words it means that the stone has to be destroyed rather than just duplicated well if he becomes something one of them can't exist um he would double as the thing it's very interesting i get what you mean like you wouldn't expect to if you're like i wish to become x like well then x can no longer be x because it can't occupy the same existence but then again because the two of you will be different yeah the power of the stone's interpretation much like it does with the wall uh it could just be like yeah i'll i'll just give you its powers it doesn't have to destroy the stone yeah i wish i had your power yeah i wish i had the stone's power um christin big figure stone back somewhere like when he renounced his wallet why i don't want to get ahead of it but if when he renounced his wish does the stone reappear somewhere then we assume that actually yeah it should just yeah in his office it should just be a wish stowed in there i guess then he could try again yeah he could just do it all over again um it's just kind of like so talking about Wonder Woman 84's incredible lack of just translation to the audience we saw this scene uh where where christin wig breaks open her fridge by accident and the first thing i thought was just like she should have figured out that she's really strong ages ago she's been this for a while now that's not something you can miss in your day-to-day activities picking things up you will notice holy shit i'm fast and strong now but of course saying spider verse did it better a lot of fucking everything did it better what we thought the film was telling us with this was that she's gradually getting power and she's sapping it from diana that's what we thought was happening that is what i thought as well that would make some sense i don't think that is what happened to us at the end when the film was like no why did you think that you idiot it if it were the case right then it's not much of a monkey's monkey's pot effect on Barbara no because it's not affecting her negatively at all it's just yeah what did it take from her look look at the and also look at that it cuts right to diana as if to imply like where do you think she's getting that power from it's like oh yeah but no but like you have this thing where uh she wishes to be like diana and then diana starts losing her power and so you think that that's a monkey's pot effect in and of itself because the you would think that the monkey's pot effect of diana's wish to have Steve back is the fact that oh it's the fact that he's actually in a random dude's body and there's a sexual harassment on the screen there um but like no it actually turns out uh the monkey's pot effects for diana is she's losing her powers because Steve's there she's very like we've made it yeah apparently that's what you're supposed to think but i don't think any of us when we were watching it did any of us pick up the correct interpretation no oh well as chat is saying like you should have picked up that it's her humanity that was the price it's just like what do you chat chill out so so this also bugs me when people say that people's humanity is only their good traits like humans are just wonderful pure amazing things and any bad attribute is we are human if you were to remove you stop with that the humanity from a person they're like i don't even know what you end up with are you something different it's going to be something very very different yeah oh yeah i didn't grasp that fact guys well no yeah i was gonna say like the point being made is we made fun of this already it's like she's mean now and it's like no you don't understand they took her humanity it's like yeah yeah yeah she's mean now is what the film does took away her the price that she has to pay for being a super apex mega predator is that she's meaner she lost it well this is what i mean rags on the surface you lose your humanity you're like oh my god what does that entail it's like well you're mean you're a mean look like a thunder cat it's a kind before she became the cat that was just the trade to get the diana powers yeah so here's the other thing but the wish she makes you know and the power she gets from it makes her more of a selfish potentially mean evil person right that's not a monkey's paw side effect because the same thing happens to max lord like all the power goes to his head and his ego and everything but his monkey's paw effect is that he's like gonna die if he doesn't keep granting wishes well yeah it almost seems like no i thought it was a grand wish you made it worse would you say that's the humanity of it the power corrupts people yeah like that you think that that's like the logical conclusion of her suddenly becoming so powerful is it going to her head i think that works in a medicine but because the film never addresses the fact that wonder woman raped a guy i don't know if we could say that's the message the film was making which is by the way a lot of assumptions here we'll probably skip that that's the next scene film so terrible uh we've definitely covered that i was just gonna say that's the next scene so we'll probably move past that one where it's just and when this when this came up i think all of us were just like no no no no no no you should know it was like nor nor nor it's definitely a nor moment so i haven't seen the movie obviously i can't hear the dialogue here but with the antagonist christin wig has wished to be like diana because she's envious of her confidence or whatever and the stone has taken that to mean that she wants her powers and now she has super powers and she doesn't understand why she gets the full package people are attracted to her she's very confident she's agile and she's strong and yeah she doesn't and she gets the powers yeah i don't think she knows why she has powers at this point you'd think like because that's fucking dumb come from love when everyone's powers come through the power of love um no wasn't that in the first movie uh well well that's how she beats areas is like she's like i believe that love can save the world or something like that but that's not where the power is coming from but that's where the power is coming from now what i'm getting at when she says she wants to be like diana it's like okay if the stone was going to be more literal about that wouldn't that also affect her personality to be more like diana and that would make her a better person not a worse one well again diana rapes a guy in this so is it bad is it bad that that comes up a lot now it's like bear in mind we've got it pinned she did rape a guy you're like oh right yeah okay that does yeah shad who makes their protagonist a rapist yeah okay for proper plot reason that's true at least i meant to make my protagonist also one of the only other uh female metahumans in the dceu is played by amber herd oh no just oh it's a theme now is it a great morning pattern not a whole lot of uh of role models here is what i'm trying to bring up of course is female guys so female empowerment through any means necessary let me have an example of a scene that i'm chill with just this is we just cut all of this and the film improves it's just uh christin wig goes to 70s wick out and and she's like wow i'm strong that is the scene yeah that's the scene is that she's strong didn't we already do this beat with the fridge door yep with the fridge you know what it is a totally redundant scene that establishes nothing about anything but there it is there it is they didn't even use the opportunity to have like nice 80s music they could have done like a call on me thing might have been two on the nose but they could have had nice 80s music and i'm pretty sure it's just kind of like quirky comedy music yeah so that reminds me the opera music the so there's a montage that would have been nice if it was done better um that's this movie though um but they have us they sorry there's there's a bunch of scenes where they have chris pine and a wonder woman and they're walking around they go to museums and stuff and there's a little good aspect of the film where chris pine is like amazed by how far aviation technology is gone and you know he's oh shit we've gone to the moon that's incredible you know that's that's good that's nice that they did that it's nice that they put a good thing in the film um and they have this opera music playing over the whole thing and it's bizarre it is bizarre yeah right instead of having that really cool 80s music vibe you know because 80s music is great tons of great songs and you know music very you know that would be very very appropriate and fun to listen to and would set the tone well it's just random opera music also like happy new year to britain all right it's not another six hours for me we all really like it's nearly there eventually it's nearly 12 o'clock in the uh it's nearly new year that he's paid to me uh on to the music point like Thor Ragnarok honestly gives a better 80s vibe than this movie does and Thor Ragnarok has even set in the 80s yeah well regarding to the galaxy yeah oh my god that's a lot of fireworks i'm scared guys well well three uh erie's is back so oh no he's tainting the souls of men uh so yeah that was that was a scene and they literally just cut to Maxwell's next scene all the point was was christin wigg picking up weights i think the movie actually forgot that it already did it it's i don't know how to explain it just cut the scene you don't need it go uh and yeah so this is Maxwell testing out his powers i guess he wants the investor to wish for better things for the company sorry if that's really loud right now i don't know if it is uh no that's all right uh and of course the the investor would naturally like this was i think one of the best examples of actually having to write in this film where Maxwell has to guide the conversation to what he wants the person to wish for which is a really interesting element of this whole story like max is doing this for himself but he has to get people into a position where they'll wish for the thing that he wants them to it's like that's cool you should use that the rest of film doesn't do it as much i think there's a bit with his son but that's about it the rest of them are sort of just whatever wish wish wish just on that point it actually almost inverts at where he becomes that he doesn't care what they wish for but then he selects the thing he's going to take arbitrarily to benefit himself so he doesn't need people to wish for the things he wants he can actually just take what he wants as a payment for the wish so that's contradicted i think it's way cooler to have just had it the whole time every conversation is like a battle where he has to get he has to unlock the thing he wants and sometimes it can backfire you know totally totally agree yeah um so it works um he gets he gets what he wants and then just does anyone remember the scene better than i do the guy the fbi shops the place or something yeah they show up immediately right after he says uh he he he gets his wish right he or grants that guy's wish and goes and now i'm gonna take all your shares and uh you're gonna be taken out by some random element basically i'm paraphrasing and then they show up right when he's walking out yeah so his um choice of what their payment is for the wish if you will it's taken to the extreme he can just select whatever he wants out loud and he gets it instantly and this is the kind of thing where whether or not that makes sense mechanically with the wish stuff it's insane how much the world will have to bend its back to be able to actually facilitate these things that he wants like everyone is mine now they're all just like wait do they all lose free will or do they all just have a memory where they were convinced to follow you like how does this work yeah like his guards he's like uh your private security detail their mind and they just obey him now which makes it kind of fucked up when they get attacked by wonder woman yeah because they did nothing wrong uh-huh that action scene we're coming coming to it eventually it was terrible it's so funny though uh so yeah that's just let us know that's how his power works go ahead well well like uh in the comics i hate to appeal to the comics but like max lord's power is being able to like persuade people with like telepathic powers so it's almost it almost seems like this is the closest that the film gets to adapting max lord faithfully well uh gary you've read the comics is this a faithful and cleverly written adaptation of max well lord no what a shame because the idea was so good never would i guess if only yeah um this is the thing i wouldn't well better question is this a good adaptation of wonder woman at this point no when you get into like her character choices in this film in particular which you brought up before and we'll bring up again when we get to the steve trevor part uh no she's not that selfish at all uh and you know gal good out is good in her performance she's fine with the garbage writing she's given uh i mean she's stoic she's not like she has massive range or anything but she's a good wonder woman generously to describe her we yeah we don't think this is a very good actress love a phrase well the first one she yeah she had like she's improved but yeah you know she needs somebody to play off of obviously and these you know listen these are super here at chris evans you know he's a good captain america but he's stoic it's actually not he's a decent actor but he's pretty beautiful but he's good at acting stoic we don't just assign the stoic attribute to him after the fact yeah like he can emote when he needs to when absolutely he can quiff and emote because yeah she is really hot completely agree but when she has to exclaim in it when someone dies and she goes now it's like oh like yeah her her ability to just like speak and use her face to express her thoughts is really horrible i wish it were a super model yes uh she is hot she is hot though which uh brings us to her go ahead so i want to ask gary a question by the way gary awson being a stream with you made i've watched your stuff for a for a bit of for a while now so thanks hey sorry question has wonder woman in the comic books ever write to anyone no she's been great though she's been great the while okay and listen i haven't read every silver age comic and this like wonder woman was created by a pervert right so uh a guy who was like a submissive and in the you know bondage and all that stuff they made a movie on her pervert oh is that why her weakness to make her weakness so i go i mean existed we'll say uh sexually permissive how's that uh but i'd say pervert to save time and she gets spanked a lot like a lot but no right that i know of we were the we were the spanks we were the spanking scenes in in these movies at all in the 50s in the silver age comics you can look it up i mean it's it's all there oh i could believe yeah i'll probably yeah all right let me research they had the comics code in the 50s so the artists and writers did whatever they could like to get around it like a batman and robin is a giant gay innuendo for a decade so yeah it's it's pretty funny uh there's a there's an old old website called super dickery superman is a dick and it goes over all of that with batman and superman superman's like a total asshole to low to lowest lane and uh it's pretty funny well yeah they they didn't go as far as having any naughty spanking scenes they just wanted to throw a rape one in there you know that's not so no they didn't worry you're always always there there we go right there there you go guys i just want to ask i just want to ask what the fuck is going on with her back yeah oh she's melting and what is what is going on here she is like ice cream on the countertop man i do not know oh my god it's true well i was gonna say what the fuck is going on with that picture in general but yeah sure the back oh yeah that's also weird i think the the person who is spanking looks so stressed out to do so well see the little kids watching i mean this is weird shit weird yeah oh my god what in the world why i don't know an entire generation was raised on this she's a feminist icon everyone a feminist icon what feminist icon where i cannot believe this this is the way we brand you the red mark of displeasure will remain with you until the smart from this spanking wears off okay that's word for that's word for word something that he's heard in the bedroom oh yeah pretty tough be it's just amusing it's like right back to the film where there's the awkward scene where he's picking clothes actually legitimately less pleasant thing yeah uh this is obviously the point of this is to reflect the first movie where it's like remember when she was trying on clothes well now he's trying on clothes tee he you're like all right yeah uh this was up on us yeah that scene went on for a while it did a lot of them do it did and it's just like man this fashion it's just not it's just not cool apparently fanny packs yeah fanny packs are so 80s like nobody made fun of anybody wearing them back then like i did and yeah and the they even do like the the hard cuts with even to the point where it's moving them across the screen because that's the just that's how you edit scenes that are like funny and montagey for wearing clothes it's it's funny this whole movie is like a big mixture of paint by numbers and then also insane like oh they're doing the thing everyone does also they're doing rape you're like oh okay that's yeah i mean throw that in yeah and patty jankins is the hottest director now everybody wants her because she has a direct and she has boobs surely she's her reputation is going to take a little bit of a hit from this one right it should honestly because she had a writing credit on this one and not on the first one so yeah that's not looking good for her rep zack was there love or hate zack he was there helping her in the first obviously well it's a it's a good thing in that I know in that trying on clothes thing it's a good thing that chris pine and handsome guy that he's possessing have similar physiques otherwise that scene might not make much sense that's right imagine he possessed literally anybody who doesn't have his body type oh Danny DeVito yeah that would have been thought it was gonna be I thought they were gonna go that route they were gonna get some like yeah some some like you know bald 40 year old guy that like is making out with uh you know Gal Gadot that would have been kind of funny but that yeah they couldn't make they could have been the same size just not you know still sticks with him that's the question yes I think she would I would have liked to be funnier okay so humorous rape and then they do the the trailer thing and just it was just again scenes that go on for a while and you're just sitting there we're waiting for them to go back to max and his crazy because I legit remember seeing this when it shows him again we were like oh shit what's he doing now who's he manipulating what kind of powers he getting what kind of resources again I want to follow our protagonist you know enough with the Wonder Woman testing a boyfriend's clothing it's like that's the lame um and yeah he gets his secretary to wish for help I think with the phones yeah and people randomly show up yeah and again makes you wonder how exactly that works are they poofed into existence and if so why didn't you do that for chris pie yeah it's kind of weird they could have gone down any avenue one guy the guy who comes in there says I was going to some other place and I ended up here but I mean forget about like filling out applications and all that stuff because you still had to do that back in the 80s you didn't just say you're hired and walk in it's magic it's magic then that brings up your point why didn't chris pine just appear it makes me wonder as well because uh if they do they're basically on the part because like it's way too quick to be like that it would have to be guys walking down the street and he has this random idea I'm going to go into this building and I'm going to work for this guy and that's because of the monkey's paw um the timing means he would have had to have been on that track before the wish was even made in which case that gets into a lot of stuff about fate I guess like and how everything the world operates as though it already knows what's going to happen and puts everything in in place ready for it to happen designed for what people wanted stuff and it's like oh my god this film's dealing with concepts that I don't think it's ready for oh then back to christin wigg you're like no you see she's captivating an audience because she all this is it just beats to say that she's slowly she even says like oh so weird I don't need my glasses anymore and everyone laughs and it's like what if anybody here's wearing glasses and they suddenly didn't need to I feel like that would be huge be like holy shit my eyes don't wow how come this isn't affecting Diana how come Diana's not affected is it because she's drawing her powers out wouldn't she be enamored with Barbara too yeah that's always come across as weird to me because it does seem as though everybody is under a spell but it doesn't work on Diana maybe it's because she's the one she was copying is that what the justification is could be you have to kind of assumption number a thousand you know you have to do a bit of work for the for the movie you know I want to do that much work for a movie like this no no one does yeah and so then uh one of them gets really pissed at it because she allowed max to have the um the stone and it's a really weird scene because it only works if uh Kristen Wiig's character isn't a character she goes along with it as if she knows all the context we know um when in in reality she should be like why are you mad at me this guy not only was it something he bought uh he's funding us just isn't it totally fine that he has it like why why are you so pissed at me but that never happens Kristen Wiig's like oh no sorry I didn't oh no oh no again yeah and she's just really rude again this is not the first time that uh Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman is just incredibly rude to people and like in a way that's not even helpful for her she's just angry yeah I know she's like how could you do this and she's like what I didn't do anything I don't know what I've done really unfortunately yeah yeah um so it's a fascinating movie I said like if anybody did a full on video on this thing it takes so long to break down are you planning on doing one chat probably just on the big thing the rape thing I want to I like more awareness of this for the fact that so many people are not talking about it when they should be I'm astounded by so I think I'm just gonna do a full blown rant on this well let's google it let's google let's take a look is Wonder Woman a god rapist women women can do no wrong you guys are forgetting cosmic book news the warped morality of Wonder Woman 1984 that's on Forbes um how to address its big consent I mean there's some there's some stuff here but it's not as um yeah not as uh it would be everywhere yeah it should be everywhere but there's only you know four or so things that pop up I think we're all I think everybody agrees that uh the reverse would be insane on the internet it would be on fire if it was the new captain america film and this was happening no just a reverse role but but luckily most creators I've seen talking about this film don't fail to mention that element so you know humanity's not lost yet guys not yet uh so yeah they get to max his office they're looking for the stone and they look in his bin I think and they find tickets to Cairo that's um not only really lucky that that happened I think so I'm playing it now I'll be able to confirm but because they're after the stone and um the fact that he's gone to Cairo because he wants to talk to the oil baron person right um get his get his he went to Cairo but he threw out the tickets well receipts that scene remember they also established that he had been researching stone so that's how we're supposed to go oh he that's how he found it and knew about it right which was just picking up a couple of pieces of paper right yeah still feels flimsy like an object of that type in this world and he's the one who found it because he just I don't know read the right books at the right times it's like okay there should have been there should have been a scene a like a prologue well like they did in uh in uh was a Batman versus Superman where they found the kryptonite right was a Batman versus or sat whatever uh but like some little scene where somebody discovers the stone and that that could establish anything some archaeologist or whatever do you remember Justice League where uh Batman finds out about the mother cubes because he kills a random gremlin thing and its body inscribes the thing into a wall of cubes or something do you remember that yeah I do that's one of the weird I remember when I first saw that film I could already just not I'm so looking forward to showing rags that shit it's it's in it's I just remember it blows up on a wall and it just makes a painting of cubes or something I just listen the the DC world is very good at connecting scenes they know what kind of shit the audience is thinking about in terms of how does one get from a to b and um like I said in this scene they found that there's there's research on the stone the stone is clearly broken I think from that they jump to he is the stone now do you remember we were all like whoa that's a leap of all the things you could think that he did with the stone um I kind of remember what the rationale is I just remember us being really surprised that the the heroes already figured out that he is now a wish granting stone wait is is it the body of Pedro but he has the powers of the stone or is the stone hopping around with like a little mouth on it like no he's the properties of the stone are now within him if you touch his hand and wish for something the same uh you know thing happens it's it's a massive leap that I figure that out yeah if you were on my team and suggested that I'd be like why would you assume that's what happened like it seems I just think a lot of I would have assumed he destroyed it uh after using it to make sure no one could counter his wish or something that's what I would have assumed too yeah for sure right um but yeah they're obviously looking around the office for any clues and just bear in mind if they don't have the Cairo clue they're fucked and I've nearly got the shocks I'm assuming it's yeah they're just looking at bin it's um this is leading us to the wonderful action scene anyway so you guys should be hype uh yes do you find some I think it's just so so I was um while y'all were talking I was doing a little quiet because I was talking about a um just a couple just looking around so I saw that um that uh that was removed because I guess it wasn't a leak I guess but I guess it's been removed but I could still find it so it wasn't removed I don't know point being um there are clearly people I shown the comments that don't think that this is rape at all so there are some fucking crazy ass people oh wow okay but one of the more popular um ones was from r slash nofap christians uh it is a safe place for the christian nofap users to discuss the process of abstaining from pornography and masturbation or we're an official accountability group of r slash nofap and the thread is called wonder woman 1984 reminded me why pornography is evil so yeah that's uh definitely interesting so there you go of all the things to learn from wonder woman 84 you know yeah yeah but so they they do a good job at recognizing the rape that takes place but apparently pornography is evil um and this is what is found by the way I guess I'm not sure what the term for it is but it's just the the other portion of the ticket that he would have bought passenger seat yeah so they're lucky that uh they've managed to find that of course and they also find the magazine with the new king of crude so it's funny because it's it's like a video game where it's like there are two clues in this room find them you pick up two things and he goes what have you learned from this magazine about a crude oil baron in uh Cairo and a plane ticket to Cairo it's like hmm so have we actually mentioned that max didn't need to go to Cairo to get that wish done he could have gotten anyone if you just said hey could you do me a favor and say this words for me just yeah I wish that say I wish max will get this guy's oil reserve just for me and I'll pay a hundred bucks he could have done that let me don't get our actions yeah that would have been here seems like you're not even oriented I wish I was in Cairo yeah wish him wish himself to Cairo that could work I mean if you have the power of the wish it does come across like there's a lot of things you can do that take you to the finish line so to speak we're not just wish I wish I had everything I ever needed oh I completely forgot about this so they need to get to Cairo everyone from Washington and um that means they're gonna go to the Smithsonian with a hear access and get to an aeroplane now there's so much about this scene that doesn't work like I'm not sure where to begin um I don't think there's anything about it that does work so honestly every detail is wrong it's like we need to make a list like clearance to leave would be something access to the actual aeroplane the keys to turn it on the knowledge to use it from Steve the fuel to get to Cairo yeah there is not enough fuel to get to Cairo even if it's fully fueled you have to stop somewhere that's what you know what are those big ships called with the planes land on what it's called aircraft carriers yeah that's what those are for because you cannot fly from here to the Cairo on one tank like oh god this is one of those scenes I think that uh is really good for just a class to study it's like nothing about this works um every possible thing that would prevent them from getting to Cairo is still in play this answers nothing they've just broke of the world that's all they've done while we were in the middle of watching this we were like pointing out like tons of of issues with this and then it took a it took us like until about a minute into the scene when I'm like guys are how is the plane fueled up yeah this is crazy it's like a museum in this kind of museum right so yeah it's fully it's it's fueled why is there somebody in the tower at the museum of planes you're not going to fly I don't know security I guess they're making sure no one steals these wide open keys no it's a real airport people just take off they land you know they're nice in there but you know what guys drama drama ensues they are on a radar how will they escape this rate I like that the writers they had like 8 000 issues to deal with writing why they're like let's just go with the radar allows us to get this payoff that we think is neat that's the only reason they went with it how do you solve being on a radar everyone um you probably have to put some special reflective material on the outside of your plane that the radar waves don't like interfere with the certain way or I don't I don't really know guys looking at the radar is that a little too dark oh fuck I'm sorry I just I'm playing I'm playing Guild Wars 2 in the back and I just pulled a vision of the conner I don't know what that means I don't know what that means either I'm very happy for you is that a sexual thing rags just man that's oh how can they be on here how can you be on radar already if they're they're like they're not haven't even taken off yet I don't know it's detecting them maybe that would be another way is to give off a bunch of false signals that could be detected on a radar that's possibly another way to just there's probably people in town know more about how to deal with radar than um than we do all this film does so uh much like and I referenced it no you know watching of it I I in TFA part three I think I talked about like the power of throwaway lines and an example of a bad one is a Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom where they're like damn this 20 year old broken down jeep we need it to work lucky we repair jeeps look what what it's like okay then it's just like we repair it so this is damn we're being detected by a radar and she's like oh it's chill my dad could make things invisible let me try yeah what it's it this is never done it before right doesn't get here she's basically be repair man he can fix anything go ahead oh yeah wonder woman's basically a wizard now she could just magic okay yeah and and I don't think you can pull the well she the invisible jet that's the thing from the comics it's like this isn't that this is like heard people say that I've heard people say oh well that's the thing from the comics it's like it's so funny because she starts doing these hand movements and I thought it was all just like gonna be a payoff for a joke where she's like huh I guess that doesn't do anything you're like okay but no weird stuff starts to happen see these special effects everyone look at those special effects oh and see like wait what's what's gonna happen and gal Gadot is expressing frustration as she tries to get this working and it's it's exciting invisible jet a wonder woman thing or a justice I mean look at her facial expression she's just like constipated yeah do you never do that when trying to make things invisible also I think it I thought the invisible jet was a wonder woman thing is it the technology or is it something she makes invisible I guess Gary might know it it's it's nah nah it's it's comic book logic they've retconned it a few times but it was just magic-y stuff before but the Zeus is the daddy but the they even put it in the TV show that's probably what their references from it and she just had it from from paradise island I thought it was like the X men jet where they all use it it doesn't really belong to any one person I'm no I'm no radar expert but I'm pretty positive what good are you why are you even here why are you even here I'm sorry you're right all well to finish this point now ironically no one can see him so well yeah just because it's you know invisible to the eyes I think a radar would still be able to detect it as far as I know with how radar works yes so that's very funny people just say it's magic guys magical stop the radar magical immune to sight and radar yeah and I know that like in terms of invisible jet there's a DC animated movie that has her have an actual jet that can turn invisible through technology it's a stealth jet that she gets a hold of and then she decides to keep so that a visible jet can be a thing in that that way but this the way they've done it here is just baffling because this is one of the things that really ticks me off in movies where they do like you know pre-cool stuff and they show characters doing things that they've never done in any other time and so it's like oh okay so she can make things invisible now that that would never happen in any other time she fights anyone in Justice League at all like sure okay yeah how does this not come up in other films like because this isn't something she learned in this film this is something she just mentions is a thing in this film you're like wait a minute how long have you known this yeah Anna designed the invisible plane on Paradise Island it was an old thing from the cartoons in the comics so it's okay well it doesn't have to make any fucking sense see and I think that that's it's almost mean to the comics because of the fact that this didn't even try it was like what's what does the comic have something invisible jet like oh she I don't know she makes stuff invisible she went into a jet that's close enough right she just she just pulls out not not only that she can turn invisible which she never makes herself invisible you think she would that seems like really really fucking useful but I she's like no I can just like I can turn shit invisible it's all good you know I watched my dad do a lot of stuff I'm curious what what is radar displaying when it beats something is it is it tracking motion is it tracking heat it's bounce I'm pretty sure it's bouncing radio waves off of it's sending radio waves out and then things bounce back or something like that I don't know don't vote me on that I think that is how it works but the R the R stands for radio so it's radio detection and ranging I think right okay yeah how does radar work it sends out electromagnetic waves similar to wireless computer networks and mobile phones they're sent out in short pulses which may be reflected by objects in their path in part reflecting back to the radar oh no so when something's invisible nothing changes yeah well done wonder woman echo location yeah that that makes so they could have had that really cool scene where they get so the radar picks up that they're there so they scramble some jets to go and intercept them or find them and then the jets are like are you sure it's here and they're looking around and they can't see it and you have that that you could make it make a funny little comedy moment where they're like oh god can they see us and there's jets right next to them but they can't see them and that would have that would have been a cool little uh cool little moment you could have chris pine and diana haven you know just a little little fun moment together where they're just invisible next to these jets but we got this so there you go we had to go through fireworks for like five minutes and then we had to go above the cloud and see the colors of the fireworks made a long scene and it was almost like ill advised too it's just like you have a job to fucking do flying through fireworks what are you guys and and he flew a biplane in world war one they're on the healthy fly yeah it's a plane it's like if i rode a bike i could ride a motorcycle right and drive a tank i'm sure why not throw a tank in his amazing fireworks as well like didn't they exist back in i'm pretty old they did what i will say is it would be pretty cool five thousand years ago so it would be pretty cool regardless to fly through fireworks like i could get you know i'd be interested in that but uh this scene is so distractingly stupid that i don't care if you know what i mean i don't want to fly through them though flying through projectiles that exploded well under the pretext that i am safe if i am if i know i am safe in this invisible jet you know gosh you guys just you're missing the emotional resonance of this film okay i don't think you can find emotional resonance in this film if you had radar the other thing that's weird to me is that it's not shot in slow motion like the reactions are in real time but the plane is moving incredibly slow through that like don't those kind of planes have to go pretty fast just to stay yeah horn right i would guess that's kind of weird yeah we had to enjoy the scene oh sorry it was important that's the whole theme of the movie right just sit back and enjoy and again we've we've been without max wealth is so long and then it cuts back to christen wigg and you're like no not again wait in the film has chris pie never seen fireworks where have you been playing guild wars no no i actually i legit was and i was reading some messages and stuff people have been sending me but i forget that did he not or um well shad brought up and yeah it's like the one thing i think is important to consider is that you're in them rather than just seeing them like the i think it would be interesting to be at the explosion level right next to fireworks but uh at the same time you know it shouldn't probably be that shocking to him fireworks at least i mean she's just as surprised and she lives in a world with i don't know he reacts like never seen them before yeah because someone because someone messaged me and said that they were invented in like 200 bc yeah so it shouldn't so they should have both seen fireworks like the both of them it's 1984 they will have seen these before like every new years and fourth of july and so like them being bewildered by them occurring is it would be odd what's that when he sees that he's like what's that it's like he's he has no idea what they are he's just like the germans they're shooting colorful they're shooting gay black hands at us they we need to dodge that's yeah my wife said good thing he doesn't have ptsd oh my god yeah that's so true oh that's hilarious film could go this is the thing this film is actually pretty dark if you should be like really afraid of them you interpret it the right way this one can get dark real quick speaking of next scene christin wigg is like enough rape enough gonna kill rape and uh this guy the drunken asshole dude she um she fucks him up quite a bit before that oh yeah cat called three times in a row like like nearly every guy she passes this goes back like i wonder what they're trying to say about men just wasn't sure google to settle what's curious about this is like this is the polar opposite of the deleted scene from captain marvel with the dawn where that is a well like in captain marvel it's a bad thing presented as good and this is like so she's uh i i think this is a bad thing that she's doing in terms of like the degree in which she's assaulting him even when he's clearly no longer a threat but at the same time he is a creep and so then like there's people that are outraged by how they're depicting um her fighting off a rapist as a bad thing um i can understand the mixed messaging aspects that are people like yeah this is portrayed as a dark and horrifying scene when in a broad sense it's a woman defending herself from a rapist i understand why they say that at the same time fucking hell she really lays into him that's that's what i'm trying to get at here is he's uh he's not he's not a threat to her at this point um i think it's weird that again one woman just didn't like apprehend him lasso him turn him in or anything like that earlier in the film she just like walks away and like okay well i guess she was i guess she was thinking he's drunk and he's learned his lesson so i was more concerned about her checking on his health i didn't know if he was dead from what she did she moved him like five meters in a second did she totally from what she does to him um but when you say defending herself right he cat called her and she passed and if she kept running that would have been the end of it but she stops and then's basically picks the fight with him um doesn't he go to do something to her and she grabs him he tries to hit her i think and she grabs it or something like that but that's after she started was calling him names thing also how hard you have to throw him by him touching her yeah of course it doesn't i'm not saying he does but well all this is this whole scene is escalation it's just it's everything escalates it's a very disproportionate response um so when she did that initial hit i think in our recording we're like well he's dead he's dead i mean what it does to the yeah movie logic likes to pretend a lot of the time you could do a shit ton to a human body and it just sort of gets back up immediately it's like no no no no um i mean the amount of force you need to exert on a human body to lift it off its feet and launch it a few meters in the air is insane that would to crush in a rib cage usually kill someone instantly right then like it's crazy too and of course depends on how quickly the force is applied i will put that caveat there yeah you're slowly right but look at that kick holy crap yeah so this kick to have the force to move someone several meters almost off their feet all in the space of just the um i don't even know what the the word for it is but you know like the edge of your foot uh before your toes that area yeah that on your chest with enough force to move you several meters he's probably dead again it's out yeah um in the same way that a slap to a face is different than the same force being projected in just a single prick you know it'll go and you should be like ah but uh yeah she's pretty pissed to this guy and of course this is um probably what they were looking to do is like be like this is her descent into villainy and it's a it comes from a better a place that's vaguely like even the first hit she does to him is still like okay you crossed the line already yeah that first hit against the truck is like okay calm down you guys are nitpicking for assuming that people that are not established to have superhuman durability in a comic book movie should uh should not have superhuman durability okay just like in doc cock and spry man too all right it's a comic book movie everyone's durable that's how it works when she just kicked him do all of his teeth fly out or is that spit it looked like it i think it's honestly i wouldn't think this film would want to do teeth i think it's just spit yeah that's a good thing wonder woman initially let him go to reoffend and also show up here yeah washington dc is a pretty big town uh that last kick she does holy shit yeah yeah this guy is it is important to note though that this film portrays this as a bad thing she is doing yeah just so we're being clear so everyone knows just so everyone knows right the film isn't trying to portray her as a good person doing a good thing where this guy gets his just come up and this is definitely portrayed as a villainous action they even have the captain marvel stuff they even have the friendly hobo from earlier just randomly turn up and be like oh no why are you being me i'm like god seriously yeah that's so dumb washington dc there's like solid six people that live there well he gets better because he's like what are you in six like what are you doing she's like stay out of my business oh go stick whatever lie that involves business like mind your own business i think mind your own business yeah it's just me beating a man to death fuck off like okay i just like the uh the homeless man is just the power god of virtue because he's probably chill he's just like yeah that's like a throwback yeah yeah well that's what they're doing and of course what's he saying here like oh he didn't deserve that i think only he's he's just confused he's seeing what the fuck's going on okay i don't think we see him again do we nope this is the last time bye homeless i can't believe he showed up in this scene that's fucking ridiculous it was ridiculous enough already with like the rapist showing up then also the fucking homeless guy shows up and i love this felt suddenly Cairo you're like right then i guess we got to Cairo yeah it's uh oh it's such a wild ride you just don't know what's going to happen next and of course yeah so max is just talking with the other oil dude and gets him what is even the wording he wants all of like the people who the correct people in the city he has and the non-correct people out i can't remember what the specific wording is yeah that guy wants basically like the rein like he really wants the caliphate back or like some sort of empire that used to exist there he wants that back he wants that territory under his control and only like we know the true believer is not the heathens kind of thing and so max grants him that and it erects a wall around his city um that's not really what he wished for he built the wall yeah it isn't so the thing with like the creative license that the wish stone and then max lord take is it's really crazy that he's just like ah you wanted to be number one apex predator i'm going to make you a human cheetah hybrid we'll get to that you want your empire back we're going to build the giant wall just around this city specifically yeah i didn't ask for that even a little bit and then um because of that he's able to basically like take all of his stuff right he just says all of your does he say all your security detail of mine now that what he's after what does he just take everything something like that i think he takes the like the you know the body guards he has doesn't he just take everything because we see that guy later and he's just like in some random room because he's like lost everything almost it seems oh i missed that i can't remember there's just so much i just like flew right over my head watching this movie because it's just so much so much happens there's just movies chock full of stuff yeah like i said it's it's quite a challenge to um break your town we're getting there it's only taken us five hours to get through an hour and 20 minutes that's actually probably a good ratio free fab i don't know uh yeah and so max well takes all of his men and they sort of drone walk like the zombies which is really interesting to me because again it's like wait do they stop being the people you know what i mean yeah that's a good question um we'll never know because he can just kind of take over people's free will so uh i know this might come as a surprise but i'm not sure that there's any real consistent rules to this whole wish thing uh what no way what and yeah so there's a this is the problem with the wall is like did it force did it teleport everyone outside of it or did it just raise a wall because raising the wall is just not useful at all to the wish if the specifics are keeping certain people in and out and they're all just the way they were yeah they didn't they didn't show anyone being teleported out of there any of the non-believers or whatever else he asked for so uh i don't really understand no but it does give us access to max while having a convoy which is going to be really important for an upcoming action scene oh i'm so excited for this it is time for us to get to it i'm sure we're so close i think all that happens between is um isn't it like uh wonder woman phones christin wig for more information on the stone i don't know the plot at this point is getting really weird because uh the world the world is taking follow yeah the world is just taking a beating good those are the like with the wall being erected people just walking off with max it was like things are starting to get uh more and more significant in on the world stage yeah um things are going to escalate they drive right past them i'll make your heads spin i forgot they drive right past them they just they went on the same road there's one road in and out of cairo okay so they must have landed the plane somewhere and it's not like the capital city of egypt or anything maybe maybe cairo this car maybe it was it was smaller back then in 1984 it was oh shit i didn't realize they actually buy the car off the guy who was driving them yeah yeah he's like this is a good price like i don't say no yeah what they just fucking leave the guy there well okay it's okay it's a highway people drive up and down the highway and he can get a ride let's just hope he does yeah it must have been a lot of money from to agree clearly thought it was worth it yeah let's just presume okay i'm not yeah he can pay for a ride i guess it could have been worse they could have just taken it from him so my other question is is this how roads are there do they really have just a white line down the middle i don't know i'm just curious because if so that's a nice little detail unless they actually drove to egypt to make this so well they got a film somewhere like that because there's nowhere like california that looks like that so you can go to them you can go to the in america they've got deserts sweet yeah but not like that kind of desert not like that this movie is got sandy deserts what kind of desert we talking about one hour 20 minutes right yeah and there has been barely any wonder woman first scene in the mall and that's it you don't see wonder woman till one hour and 21 minutes true i think that's a positive well um i would take one to one action scenes over watching christin wigg lift weights i'm i'm definitely more on board with with the fun because that opening mall scene was hilarious uh and so well and you know on form we're about to get another one so the way this begins real quick real quick yeah real quick this this these desert scenes were shot in spain oh interesting yeah look at this dude there's two people shooting and he's like no oh yeah so chris christ dies here um but we're gonna jump to the dimension where he was lucky that they missed him entirely uh for some reason oh yeah this is insane his plot armor here is absolutely bonkers and the thing is you can't win because if you have it so that they shot the shit out of the hood then that car is stopping like you can't shoot that many times and not do serious harm yeah those are yeah they're shooting a k is he immortal she wished for him back i want him back alive well this is a this is a fight that didn't have to happen like this is pointless violence yep yep also this is why i'm rooting for the security detail because i don't want him to get killed by wonder woman for no reason yeah um so this pot he's driving uh presumably full speed she opens the door and just gets out as though there isn't a moving car and then starts running and then goes far past it it's like okay once again establishing by the way that wonder woman can move faster than a car and yet she rides a horse in many scenes in the first film for some reason god it looks so good when she runs screenwriting 101 you need a big action scene every 10 pages boom boom boom makes no fucking sense this her running is always funny when she fast runs what sound was that it's so bad it's so bad it makes me cringe oh look at that yeah even like look at her face even this still there's no emotion drags this is this is perseverance confidence uh a sense of arrogance and naivety it's all involved that is honestly i mean she delivered some really awful lines that we looked at earlier this is the worst acting she's ever done well this one well i don't need it can you even say this is acting i like that's how bad it is because it's like can you can you lose the game if you don't play like like gary does she not does she not look bored in this it looks bored very bored look at that face oh my god that's the perfect still it's daytime it's freaking daytime and there's a shadow on the right side of her face where's that coming where's the i mean the sun's every screen is not especially strong misty look how bored she is yeah like i i am wonder woman she doesn't even look like good guys she's like trying to compete with brie larson to be the biggest uh plank playing a superheroine so it doesn't even look like she's looking at what's in front of her trying to figure out like where to run and like she's not tracking people that's right that's a good point yeah yeah she would be you think she'd be like keying in on a truck or something no she's just like i'm out looking at the people with the guns trying to she's just staring straight ahead bored is all i can believe that they shot this without even knowing what scene it was gonna be in they were like we need you to just be running because we might need it it's like what a motion yeah i don't even think that question was asked it's just just run what a motion what's my motivation you're wonder woman i assume they were using like a treadmill in front of a green screen but it'd be great if she was just like running on the spot like that kind of cringy like amateur green screen where she's just like you know how you're not actually moving you're just like hopping up and down in one place so this always amused me she just rips the wheel off the fucking car you're like okay it's like what do you wonder like what the goal is right now i guess she just wants to stop everyone right like she doesn't want to do she want to kill is it is it ever clear with wonder woman if she's cool with killing she seems like she doesn't want to but she does so many reckless things that definitely cause people to die so it's kind of a wash she's killed our mood many times oh yeah like yeah her i think i i think i was even talking about that or at least some of us were when she just takes the steering wheel from that guy's car and i'm like yeah they could absolutely die rags they go off road and the camera does not show us what happens to him yeah i'm like those guys could be very dead oh man the brakes still work is like yeah but i have like fucking momentum bitch so here we go this scene is incredible like we've got one shot heading right toward i guess trevor um wow what a shot by the way and so she spots that they shoot enough but yeah that's because if there was a hail storm of fire and one of them hit him yeah but a single shot wow what a see they he was so sure that that shot was perfect he didn't shoot anymore and so i just want to confirm who he lasso moves three times possibly as fast as a bullet and that ain't just any bullet that's a big ol that's like an h2 something that let me find out i because i think that coincidentally the day before we watched this forgotten weapons did a video on it um but it i think that's a 50 cal so that is a that is a hefty bullet that ain't oh that is gonna fuck your day up this image shouldn't be possible like chris pine tries to swerve and avoid it as if he can see it coming towards him too like it's not yeah i can't believe this is in a film that's it that's insane she wraps the whip around the bullet like wow that's ridiculous but but how does the scene make you feel i laughed my ass off incredible work i cannot hear you shed can you hear me hello we can hear now can you hear me a little bit a little bit it was a breaking up okay good now but you weren't earlier okay all right sorry should be fine now yeah this movie is so hang up i don't know what to feel about this movie oh wait a second last sowing the bullet is too much yeah we laughed out loud we laughed out loud it was hilarious so here's the thing i think i might actually enjoy this movie more than the first one only because it's so bad it's good oh yeah this is worse than the first but it's way more enjoyable i feel pretty boring it's so it's so weird yeah the way yeah i was wondering about the way she just ran in that scene is it looks like she's a bystander has no idea what's going on let me just show that again this whole scene is a miracle am i correct in this am i correct is this like shot in the studio or did they shoot it live it's like it's a bit of both parts of it are yeah she must have been on a green screen the way she yeah when she was gliding running that was so funny oh she's on a green screen for sure yeah those cars are actually in Spain awkward action scenes in stuff that's poorly written are always a gold mine because you don't know what's gonna happen yeah so yeah now she's charging uh one of the vehicles forward at the same speed that they're driving that's insane and you'd think it would have flipped because the wheels and the friction but you know it's fine yeah it looks like it yeah it's it's also she is strong enough to do this but he struggles to break the lock on a door yeah remember that guys she couldn't quite break the lock on the door this is chill wait what was that wait wait wait when her and steve want to break into some way oh that's right that's right she can throw tanks but she can't open a lock uh just trying to hot out things happen and i guess he's shooting at the uh that the boxes so i was about to say is he fucking his own dude up but i'm like nah he's shooting at the boxes fair enough oh and a trusty piece of metal slips out and she sifts it and then slides under the car to the next one it's just wow wow wow wow all right this is she's that's her incredible skill she yeah she pulls herself underneath the car yeah that's pretty cool that's really cool she reacts to her environment and somehow this guy did not see her at all i don't know how he missed all of that but down he goes he's probably fine not like they were going at a really high speed he's fine and there we go she is shot by what i my limited knowledge would be a fucking powerful gun and it does uh it does that too it graces her apparently and this is shocking right through like even steve is like whoa and it's like this was the thing in the first movie this happened in the first movie she was shot and she got grazed yeah i guess he's just surprised but the film the film treats it as though it's a surprise and it relates to her lacking like her waning powers but it's like but this was always a thing oh yeah yeah i see what you mean i never properly when she discovers that she's apparently not invulnerable to bullets i guess which is the shocker that it just happens to be a bullet that grazed her shoulder like wow how lucky this also means if she's vulnerable to certain caliber of bullet rounds superman would be out a ripper limb from limb without even trying absolutely she's got no chance against him and which she does she does lose to him in a tug of war in just as Lee great yeah i think i think she is she isn't as strong as he is in the snider verse already but still she also is getting like i think assistance from cyborg and uh aquaman as well he's also supposed to be super strong i believe yeah then steve just casually crashing into the armored military vehicle with his already practically destroyed car good choice and uh this allows this like this movie he drags himself across all of the jagged broken window not a scratch of course and then just makes his way up the thing because apparently his car like attached itself to the armored car like okay also bear in mind he is risking someone else's life who is not consenting to this at all at the same time absolutely uh rags do you remember this but i remember your reaction i'm pretty sure you were angry like you just kicked where yeah the guy with that guts were like hey stop hey apparently he was the only guy in there yet he comes out why would he come out yeah so that big vehicle because the guy's shooting while it's also being driven however apparently there's only one guy in there that chris pine punches or something i don't think he kills me like punches him or something and jumps in and i guess he just commandeers the whole vehicle i don't know if there was anyone else inside if there was then um we just don't get to see you know any of that happening um so then this happens and i don't quite understand what happened she she pulled down a part of the car driveshaft yeah and it flips the entire car oh wow and there she is okay so whoever was driving that dad probably but it's fine it'll be off screen it wouldn't have dug into the ground like that it just would have scraped along it and made a lot of sparks but anyway but no epic that's amazing oh no even when she's CGI she can't what music is playing here i don't know it is that i'm just curious i can't hear the music well is it like hopeful music or probably night or 10 and then it's the same uh the new one that they repeat over and over and over again throughout the entire film and except at the end when they rip off the batman music max will load it still in the front of this convoy just like uh oh there she is max stop doing wish things it's evil it's just such a mess i came all the way up here to ask you to kindly stop that's a hot girl thing to do they just expect things to happen all the time yeah she's too used to dealing with betas unlike max he's a total chad oh look at this remember she's not immune to the bullets they have clearly established that this guy has the best shot you're gonna get just somehow i don't understand how but in the world of terrible aim lackeys never before have i seen a more terrible aiming lackey what did she hook her like and he's got like an mg3 or something an mg42 some some ridiculously high rate of fire gun i think i barely i barely saw it well what is she what does she what does she look like what is she hooked on to what's she doing there i don't know what did that happen but lots of stick it's sticky it's like a it's like a spaghetti uh seriously i've seen people compare her to spider-man in this film and she does use it that way in a couple of scenes man that's an insult to spider-man no i know well the comparison is not favorable to her it's definitely not um so yeah then this happens and she's getting crushed between two of these vehicles even though not five minutes one minute later she just kicks the tire and it fucks the other car up completely she just can't think to do this at all remember she pushed one of these things across the road at the speed of another car but now she's like oh i just can't there's nothing i can do i'm getting crushed this is horrible is it all over for me no because guy got out look at my chris pines face he gets out of his armored vehicle because you see there's a dude there's a dude outside and so also you know you can control copy to uh copy that right you can control c to copy that when you use light shot that's why i did didn't i think i'm getting like you click the button oh that's uh that's a that's a good shortcut i guess all right i did not know that oh i didn't know yeah you can control c to directly copy that for the line you know it's a free app wow in fact i actually i can't remember if you were here right but i gave like a full uh ad for light shot on this stream i was like you everyone should have light shot it was yeah because he's a sell out got him i mean if i'm gonna sell out for something like like light shot i'm not even gonna have any shame about it it's such a useful tool yeah yeah and it makes that looks like another good face to crop right there so um wait i'm sorry i'm sorry at this scene is chris fine driving the vehicle then he just got out of it am i am i right and so he climbed onto the armored car and he kicked he kicked the gun until someone came out as if like hey annoying person get off my car and he he punched them and they presumably fell off the car and then he was grabbed by the throat by someone else and pulled into the vehicle that's the last we saw of him don't know what the fuck is happening but yeah yeah wonder woman she's in trouble what's she gonna do oh no um i don't want to die i couldn't help but think about uh i couldn't help but think about indiana jones here my mind was just thinking about better movies fighting on the fighting on the tank yeah the tank no no no when when when she's when indiana jones has to when he's in the boat and there's the other two boats coming in and he's got to get out from in between them that's just what i was thinking about oh is that in last crusade i think it is okay look how close this is when they're in venice she kicks away it's right it's fucking gone that shit's gone also she can push away a tank but it she struggles to break oh here it comes once again yeah and so the other thing is she's hanging from the car but she could just run alongside it she could also get up there's no real threat there and she just like consigns herself to doom yep she doesn't even try to put up her legs again this time she's just like well i'm done yeah you think that she would like put her legs up on the other one and use that to kick herself up or she would just like climb up but it would seem that chris pine has successfully defeated the tank operators has now taken the vehicle for himself and jammed it between the two well done boy and he has made sure to stick his head out the top as he's driving so that he cannot see because of the wind blowing in his face and clearly the best but oh no drama oh god the fucking unfortunately as this convoy approaches from clearly ages away these idiot children begin like because i have has anyone else played on a road as a kid oh yeah but i have yeah i got out of the way yeah this is a way far away oh no i feel like they're on it they're on a stretch of road that's in the middle of fucking nowhere i feel like it's too far out like there's no two of those kids who are on one team are fucking assholes for not telling the other two kids that a whole convoy of military vehicles was kind of barreling through the road but yeah because that's the new drama she just kicks the fucking wheel of the tank it's gone it's out it's like yeah that drama's over it's like oh all right you could have why do they not stop could have done that the whole time yeah no they don't they continue barreling toward these children because fuck it yeah because they're just randomly evil now like why would max well in it why would their guards keep plowing through they're not evil and they actually do try and dodge the kids when they oh god they're like wait so so i'm so uh there is oh my god john you've not seen this film look at this frame what do you tell me what you think is about to happen i don't know if that's one of the tanks firing that or a mortar or like somebody i didn't see what fire a full context without giving you any of the answers chris pine in response to the children being there has launched this so what do you think is going to happen hmm blows up the atm or not atm the vehicle at the front i guess yeah i think throw the other vehicles and disarray i think that's a perfectly reasonable thing to assume because this is insane and that he must be trying to destroy the vehicles before they can get to the children that must be what he's doing because what the fuck else can you possibly be doing that's my guess that would be incorrect do you have any other guesses i would like for you to really we've seen something like what is about to happen in this scene already can you think of anything else okay if there's another another hostile projectile in the air that it's trying to take out maybe that is certainly isn't too smart i'm going to give you a hint thing okay imagine the student no no no no hands i want to see how and also just to be clear we're skipping past the fact that this is even something that chris pine can just do oh well we'll do all of that too i just want this is so fucking amazing to me this is one of the best no wait wait wait the kids run away because of the rocket what is that it the kids run away because of the rocket before you play it before you play it tell me he's not firing it with the expectation that wonder woman when it's supposed to kick it into one of the vehicles or something like that. No, but my no should be right track. I could pull on that. Oh my god. Yeah, that's a good Milan strategy. The fact that I am saying no should imply to you that you're close. Okay. Chat is saying. One more guess. He gets one more guess. Is she gonna whip the rocket to the car? Chat is saying that. Wow, Chat. Is that right? Chat, no spoilers. That's the only other thing that I can guess is she is going to whip it into one of the vehicles. Wrong. So, I don't know. Hey, look, you're close. You're very close. Let us see what happens. I will play it in four second increments, I suppose. All right. Okay. I guess I'll describe it as it goes. Rocket is fired. She attaches and she uses it as a way to quickly get to the children. She throws it away. It blows up in a safe area. And then she swings on to whatever the pylon. And then there's this image that I love. It is so amazing. This is one of the greatest things that's ever happened. Oh, my God. Also, that asshole walking his goat over there didn't tell the kids that the cars were coming. This is so dumb. Again, this is so dumb. He's just standing over there, waiting. These kids are doing what the Stormtroopers did in Mandalorian episode six, where they're running in a straight line away from the thing that's chasing them down rather than just run off to the side in order for all of this culture to happen. You know what, those two characters have just such a strong bond that they're able to finish each other's sentences and also work out a plan subconsciously where it's like, I'm going to fire this missile and you're going to use it as propulsion to save the kid. Yeah, this is so dumb. Managed to throw it away. Swig onto the pylon. Can you imagine her momentum? I would like to bring up the word whiplash. Boom, boom. Look at the way she grabs them. Their necks are fucked. Right, yeah. But she's Wonder Woman. She saves them, obviously. Right? Well, no, because she's losing her powers, you see. And so for some reason, in this moment, she drops the whip. Now, this is really important, OK? So if she was able to swing and slow down and put those kids down, we would still have a pretty big issue on our hands for whiplash. But she has lost control of it. Now we're heading to concrete at high speeds, real high speeds. And you may be holding onto these children, but that's not going to protect them if you roll. So hang on, let's figure out what high speeds, because she accelerated to a speed where she overtook those other cars by easily a factor of two. And so if they're traveling at, what, 120 kilometers, she could be moving at 240 kilometers. Yeah. At least. So the RPG-7 rocket moves at about 295 meters per second. See what meters per second? It also has momentum from that, right? How did she lose her grip on the whip? Is it just because the rocket's so fast? No, she's getting weaker. No, because magic. Because what you can do is when you, like the weight of an Amazonian and the lasso grabbing that rocket will definitely not stop it or change its momentum or direction, and you can just ride it. Oh my god. I didn't realize how bad it was. Look at the weight. Yeah, you could ride the one. That's right. You could use it. Why the neck? Look at the way she grabs it. Get by the neck. Oh my god. That kid is so dead. What? What? The neck? Where's her salt? The neck. Oh my god. Did no one tell them that this sequence was dumb? No, I'm just, I'm sorry, like, did no one watch this in the edit and meant, guys, this is dumb. Like maybe, yeah, I assume that Wonder Woman grabbed her by like fucking sex. Should we put this in the movie? The neck. That's amazing. How's that? Broken neck or a decapitation? Fuck, man. Can you imagine that? She went away. Wow. By the way, quick note, apparently it is an Arab thing to have the single white line down the middle. So bravo to them for getting that detail right. You nailed it, Wonder Woman. You nailed it. Yeah, you did it. You're actually good despite what we're witnessing on screen at this very second. It's actually great. Gotta give it up for Wonder Woman. Gotta give it up for Wonder Woman. Yeah, you can really tell. That's gonna be the next broom boy right there. You're just trying to nail it. Notice the camels in the back? Yeah, the momentum at this point would be intense is the word. But oh, just so sad that she just couldn't hang on. She can grab two kids in one arm. And so, oof, the damage. Oh, oof. Oh, no, she slipped. Oh, they're fine. They'll be fine. Oh, my goodness. I love this shot of the villains trying to avoid hurting innocent people again. This film likes to play with that everyone's the one. It's like, oh, no. Those kids would be dead, right? Oh, they died like three different times in that moment. But that's one of the benefits of using slow motion shots is that you can cushion a moment like that. Or if you played that in full speed, you'd be like, there's no way those fucking kids live. But you play it in slow motion. It's like, oh, okay. She just casually kind of like cradled them. They're fine. The kids are just fucking her. Yeah, that's a good point. Also, she rolled to a stop way too easily for the speed that she must have been going at. Like, she would have needed to have skipped and rolled at least a good 50 meters or something. I reckon to slow down normally without brakes or something to assist her. Also, since we're at five and a half hours, I think I might split and make a second EFAP just because this one can start processing while we do the next one. Literally just go offline back online in like ten seconds or something. Well, ten, five minutes? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Is that okay with everyone here? And of course, you'll feel it. You're the boss. Sweet. This doesn't mean anything. We will just go over this scene once more before we head on through it on the next part. So don't worry. Peabreak. Yes. Everyone in chat. Go for a Peabreak. We've got plenty to talk about with Wonder Woman left. Oh, you're an ape. Yes. Thank you for watching and see you in part two slash EFAP one, whatever. Yes. Yeah, see you in a bit, everybody. Thanks, everybody. Yay. Hey.