 of our segment of the day and it's a fact that during these hard economic times that art is putting money in the pockets of Kenyan youth and that's why we try to focus on the various disciplines that constitute this thing that we like to call art and today in studio with me I have a very amazing artist, pencil artist for that matter and he's all the way from Kuala County. This is a sample of his work as we get ready into it so you can know what we are working with today. I go by the name of Barry Moses or it's very more on every social media platform it's always a pleasure so be sure to interact with us on white 54 channel on Twitter, white 54, underscore channel on Instagram and white 54 on Facebook, hashtag is white in the morning, hashtag is entrepreneurship, entrepreneurship Tuesday and never ever forget to tell us where you're watching as from Kuala County represented by Ali Hassan, Karib Hassan. Hassan tell them. All right Joe, do you make OSA in the name? All right so your camera is number four, just introduce yourself if there's anything I missed. My name is Ali Hassan and I'm a pencil artist. I do pencil as an income for the more at least it supports me on the other side. It's supporting you on the other side as well. Which is this at the side? Like paying my bills, same thing to support my brothers. You support your family as well, from pencil art. For sure. Are you living in Kuala right now? No, I'm in Nairobi. Are you living in Nairobi? So you're living in Mumbai, are you living in Australia? Ah, to go to Australia. To go to Australia. I'm living in Ireland. All right, so what are the working hours? A couple of millions. I take it seriously, I'm a full-fledged farmer. You're a full-fledged farmer? I'm a full-fledged farmer. So I'm a full-fledged farmer. Then I'm going to have a full-fledged farmer. You're a full-fledged farmer. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So All right, that old were you back then, at the same? I think I was 18 years. You were 18 back then? Yeah, yeah. All right, so each time I was in the car, like, So, easy aspects don't have control over it. All right. Do you have an instinct to be a Sabuna Piga? I'm a Sabuna Piga. I'm a grids. You're a grids? I'm a grids. All right. So, when you say, ah, I'm a Mao, I'm a Matsu. You're a Matsu. I'm a Matsu. For example, you're a Mushi. You're a Mushi. You're a Mushi. You're a Mushi. You're a Mushi. What do you mean by grids? What do you mean by grids? A. Yes. Yes. M. No. Yes. Yes. scaling even. And you can scale. The structure is graph paper. Yeah, yeah. All right. The geography of the telephone is gridning. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. So, the number one thing is that the person is not the same. So, let's say you're the same. You're the same, I think. Yeah, yeah. For example, you see, like, the person is connected. Yeah. The person is not the same. The person is the same. So, it's the same. Ah, yeah. It's the same. Ah, yeah. Yeah. As much as humans are perfect in terms of dimension. Yeah. Dimensions really go along with it. We'll go on the paper. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so you're gonna keep a gear as a money. I'm kind of a gear then if you come after Poe and I took an hour at least 9 a castle All right, and then I relaxed so if again I just go home in hours I saw you not depending on the show much cool and then you don't know if I get come I was Ngapi I mean one of the lake to me from seven to seven is away to 10 to 10 e.v. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Extendation extend the shot. All right. Yeah, so 10 ushamek punchyako After all, what do you do? After all, I go to the market and sell pencils, credit at least, bundles, and so on. So, I go to the internet and sell my skills. So, you go to the internet and sell pencils, you sell pencils, things like that. So, what do you do when you are doing research? Yes, very well. So, I get to get materials when I need it. I see a shipment of materials, then I hear it. I get a post and I call the doctor or which one is it. Then I get a number, and I get a post. I get a post and I get a glue. So, when I get my time, I get to know a person who has a post from the US. I get to know a person from San E.T. Henry. So, when I came to KU, I was connected to Namsi, and at least I had an idea of how to grow your art. And the shading here was slightly kind of perfect. So, when I came to KU, I met you, Henry, and I introduced you to Aroni. So, Aroni is the one who's been working with me for a long time. He's been working with me for a long time. He's been working with me for a long time. He's been working with me for a long time. He's been working with me for a long time. So, when I came to KU, Henry introduced me to Aroni. So, Aroni is the one who's been with me at least since I started the mentorship. And he shared out to Aroni. And also, you were able to randomly leave a post as a stick? Yes, I was able to leave a post as a stick. In fact, I didn't really like it. Since then, I've been able to leave a post as a stick. So, when I came to Aroni, I was able to share, I was able to do grids. So, when I came to KU, I was employed, I was employed by Henry. So, Henry, in fact, he was a marketing professional. He was a marketing professional. But he didn't want to leave a post. So, when I left a post, I was able to do grids. I was able to leave a post as a stick. So, when I came to KU, I was able to deliver a post to the USIU and then he left my post. So, when I came to Aroni, I was able to train. So, after training, I was able to leave a post as a stick. So, I was able to leave a post. So, when I came to KU, I was employed by Henry. So, when I left, I was able to leave a post as a stick. You faced your job is very important. Yes, yes. We went a lot in the process. We took like around 6 months. It was perfect. I saw that you were going to join an afternoon, after the fair. You went to the fair when you were in Sarfield. Sometimes when I went to the fair, I saw that you were going to meet I was in a family in KU, I was staying in Homeland to KU, footing. Same same, maybe in Keles, maybe 50 or so. But I still believe in this spirit. This story is like smiling, isn't it? Yes, it's like smiling. Even if you have a solo, smile face. so at least when she say so at least when she say so at least when she say Sir, the director and I are going to take a picture of the plan in Bayapa I will try to take a picture of my Instagram So this one is what we are going to be drawing for today As we have this conversation So before the end of the show, Barry is going to be having a portrait from YM YMA? Yes What is YMA? Okay There is one Jira Nialiasan Bramni YMA YMA There is a day when I went to Mombasa Road I went to the marketing As in Atwak Zangu So it was a frame? Yes, it was a frame As in Adwak, it was a small building So it was a big building People were going to buy it And they were going to sell it So we were going to buy sweets We were going to sell it I was going to go to Harlingen Parklands I came to Nanshana I introduced myself Then I went to Atwak I was interested in selling it I was going to buy it Did you ever sell art pieces? I didn't sell art pieces You said you were interested in selling art pieces You said you were interested in selling it Because I was going to sell it This is what I do If you are interested in art, maybe you can call me Did you ever get any phone call? It was hard I was going to sell it I was going to buy it That's why I was interested in selling art pieces Because atatwak, it's hard to sell art pieces If you sell it in the fashion If you want it to be a fashion And it doesn't matter whether I say one or comment As long as it's cool I get quickly in the fashion It comes all the way through So I was in Asia and Nishakua I came to Nishakua I was already in Nishakua And I was going to call And I was interested in selling art pieces And I started selling it from Sweden. I can introduce, I can say, oh, so this is what we do. I can say, apart from art, what else do you do? I do nothing. It's just art for the income. I mean, you're just a young man who does that. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm a young man who does that. That's why I'm a young man of art. That's why I'm a shawaii man. Oh, so you're in a lead to my next question. Painting anything seriously. But you can check your music. Music, you can say, seriously. At least that. Okay, art, you can say, on a particular platform. But you can come to art. Art, you know, like, you know, maybe see, let me say, you know, I'm at another station to request for an interview over night or particular show. Like, okay, and therefore they're like, like, three, okay, like four months, you come up with a community, you're written and you're going to do your work. But when you say musician, I am at home, I'm at a show, and when I'm at home, I'm at a show. So I'm like, you know, I paint daily. I paint daily, but you know, product, you know, product, you know, I can't so appreciate art. But when you say, you know, music, comedy, you see what I'm doing, I'm like, come, you know, you're a part of the fans. So, aspects, most of the audience, you know, accept you, like you are, you know, you see what I'm doing here. You see what I'm doing here, you see what I'm doing here, you see what I'm doing here, you see what I'm doing here. Because mostly, me, you know, I'm like, art, I see really you know, I'm just like, I'm going to say, I'm at a photo show, I'm just like, as in the proving say I'm mature, unless me, I'm at a stage where I'm not. You know, I'm not, I believe. Like, what is happening right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, I'm like, I'm going to show you can't work at a company. But it's hard, especially you say, if you're not able to work, you can't do anything. If you're not able to work, you can't do anything. You can't work and you can't go. All right, so it's gonna challenge us. It's gonna challenge us. All right, so apart from your work, there are people who take part from art. And art is also a work that I started So apart from challenges, what are some of the challenges you have to face? The challenges are the same. Maybe it's the same as marketing. Marketing, that's for sure. The challenges are the same. Maybe it's the same as marketing. Marketing aspect. Because we are on the ground. I'm not the one who's doing it. I'm not the one who's introducing it. I'm the one who's doing it. And I'm grateful for that chance. I'm grateful for that chance. This is what WIT5F is all about. Yes, I'm grateful for that. The producer called me and asked me to do an art work. I asked him if I can do it or not. What's on his anelite? What's on his anelite? Yes, yes. That's why we have to make a brand. Then we have to make a style. A style like that. This is only my style I use. Alright, so social media. Social media may change game for you guys, obviously. So social media is the idea of an artist. On the side of marketing and so on. And if you're doing a daily post you're doing it... I think that's your preference. I think that's my preference. Art is like art. Art is what you do. You do it with passion. You do it with passion. You do it with passion. You do it with passion. You do it with passion. You do it with passion. You do it with passion. You do it with passion. Then when you're doing it with your money, you don't get a chance to do it with passion. You get satisfied with it. And social media is the idea. And it's not something that can be watched. It's something that is inspired. It's something that is inspired. But at home we can do it together. We can do it together, with a phone. It's a great job. I don't have anything. So, at least motivation and talent. Now, at my youth, when I was in the house, it was a challenge. If somebody comes up with an invention, obviously it's a low-invention, but I told them that if they come up with an invention, that's it. So, apart from having an invention at your house, which other industries do you think require your services? And do you think they will need services as artists? I don't think so. I'm a marketer. I've been working in the industry as a social media. I have a lot of ideas. Some say it's easy to sell, but others don't. I don't think it's easy to sell. But, at least, according to me, art is featured on the magazines. So, let me say it on the magazine. So, I think it's easy to sell. Like the Nairobians say, some people say it's easy to sell, some say it's easy to deliver, maybe it's a surprise or an offer. So, some say it's easy to sell, some say it's a company plan. Some say it's easy to sell, then it's a company. Then it's a phone. And Google. It's a company with a particular name. It's easy to sell, it's a company with a particular name. As in some of the portfolios, I say it's easy to sell, I want to. Then it's easy to sell. If I sell it on the phone, then it's a gazette. Maybe it's on the business daily. It's easy to sell. So, it's like my certificate. So, I think it's easy to sell. Maybe your company or that brand that introduced me, because my name, I saw on the GTO News, like my name is Ali. I do this and that. And I've been your fan all the since Mwazi, you want to teach her too. As you know, like we have been following their steps. So, I'm not sure if I can say it. So, apart from that, I think it's easy to sell. Maybe the chairman, the CEO, you can't say it. You have to be very creative. Now you are. At least, if you don't say it, you can't say it. At least, when you dress like it's not official, at least you can say it, this thing will be sold out. Then, you'll see that it will be sold out. So, I say to introduce you, I'm an artist, I do this and this, and you can see it, you can see it. So, what you've done, what you've been able to do, what you've done. So, there are many things that you can do. You can see it. There are many challenges, there are many things that you can do. So, it's important to try and try and try and try. So, it's important to try and try and try. And be creative without you can squeeze yourself Into these doors and into these offices and push out and push your envelope wise words from an amazing man Yeah, he goes by the name Ali Hassan is from Kuala County Be sure to find his art on social media social media talk pattern. I'm not gonna come in number four In Instagram. I'm why am I Kenya? Why am I Kenya? Then an FB is my pages why am I why am I yeah? Any other way they can contact you? Maybe I have a business number. My business number is zero seven Two seven three five five one eight eight one eight eight. Yeah, thank you very much. Mr. Ali Hassan So, okay, I'm the lack of each or whatever. Yeah. All right so uh, I'm not no jaffa. Yeah, I can't eat or Grading grating. No, you cook it. Oh, you cook it. Yeah, so I need to translate very much translate today Yeah, all right. I like that. So now no people are different types of pencils Yeah, yeah, all right So you can shade different Numbers numbers different I'm a clean at me it be it being a duck and H H. You say you can sketch but I'm not a cutlery. It's great. You know, I can't so I have to use it. It's all right Yeah, I'm different So I buy a whole set Different shades. Yeah, no, I don't like to me. I don't like to me. I just use it to me. I I in New L.A. like, yeah. And these things you learn them from experience? Yeah. The more you do, practice make. Practice makes work. So the more you do a save. All right. So apart from portraits, do you do any other types of drawings? I do string art. String art. I do string art. What is string art? String art is an art that you use string and nails on the board. But mostly you move on the logos. Maybe someone accompanies them. Oh, they're not okay. I pour some on the logo. Pour some on the logo. Okay, okay, I think we have a piece then. All right. So I think we have one piece of string art. But this stands out for me. Ali, Asan, for pencil art, portrait, contact, this cindo. Who is this? Sabina Cheg. Sabina Cheg. Yeah. What do you think Sabina is? Like, then I think it's marketing. So there is a place for me to work. In a certain country, there is a place for me to work. So at least all of us are interested in children. I'm interested in children. All right. So it's very important that you put yourself out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Social media. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, all right, all right. So how long does it take you to get a portrait like this then? I don't really do it at night. So the whole night. After, as in, from eight to around six, seven morning. So the whole night. Afternoon, like from 2 p.m. to 3, 4, 5 o'clock. All right. What do you think about the whole night? Because it's not like there's any disruption. It's just a cool environment. It's a cool environment to work in. Yeah, yeah. So most artists, I don't know if it's because of the recording. It's because of the sound. It's because of the sound. You need the silence. You need the concentration to what you do. All right. Yeah. Nice one, man. I like this. So this is macho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, all right. All right, I like this. I like that this is good. All right. I'm going to respond together. What does that mean anything to you? Your response. Yeah. Pardon? This bandicoot. When your parts work for real, yeah. Yeah. Can I put it? Oh, this one. I'm a Kenyan man there. Oh, you're a Kenyan? You're a Kenyan man. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. I feel like this needs a little bit more concentration. Yeah, yeah. But it's just a sketch at least to show what you do. To show people what you do. All right. So it's a step at a time. Wow. They say people take pictures as they create them. People take pictures? As they create pictures. Oh, okay. All right. So that is a catchphrase for why a Kenyan. People take pictures as you create them. As they create them. All right. Be sure to interact with us at our social media handles. Try to find our channel on Twitter, write to find our underscore channel on Instagram, and write to find Facebook, as we get various portraits going. This is my first ever, actually. I've never been drawn before. It's a sketch. So I'm going to try to show you what I'm doing. I'm going to show you what I'm doing. I'm going to show you what I'm doing. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Looking forward to this. Looking forward to this. Just a disclaimer, this is not one of my best pictures. Yeah. So we'll tell you later. We'll tell you later. So one thing I see about pencil art, you have the option of erasing. Yeah, yeah. With paints, you can't erase. Yeah, yeah, you can't change. You just change the paint. You just change the paint. Yeah. Soon as I come and I'm painting, I'll paint you. I'll paint you. I'll paint you. Oh. Yeah. Oh, so when you make a mistake with paint, it's... Yeah. You just start afresh. It's just start afresh. Wow. Because I decided I wanted you to be painting. Damn. Okay. But with pencil, you... You can erase. All right. So, er... It's painting something that you're interested in as well. Pardon? Painting. Is it something you're interested in as well? No. I'm interested in painting. Yeah. You're in love with pencil art. With the pencil art. All right. Because I do black and white, I recall that I'm trying to... To take us back. Yeah. Take that back. All right. We throw old-fashioned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, all right. So I've seen people do charcoal art as well. Yeah. Is there a similarity between charcoal art and pencil art? Yeah. Yeah. The difference between the charcoal is that it's rare to be rubbed. Mm-hmm. Chalcolukisha Shade A-Z Rabi Karisa. Yeah. It has a lot of these lids. Yeah. That is... The carbon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Wow. Mm-hmm. Yes. All right. So, er... What is happening there? We have a picture on the screen. Er... We have... We have a gillard. We have a gillard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. And the marketing too. All right. Yeah. So we have a party. We have a show. We have a performance show. We have a performance show. So we have a kind of... We have a feature. Yeah, and this is the form of marketing. As much as you're a panelist, you enjoy the music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You enjoy the music. This... This puts you out there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a surprise, yeah. Yeah. All right. I see you've met... The sea. The sea, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Where was this? All right. I see it early. On this particular day, you had a dress code in the chair. Oh, yes. You can do marketing as long as you have a suit. Yeah. I see. I see. All right. All right. Who is this here now? This is the chairman of the police. Oh, chairman of the police? Yeah. The chairman of the police. He's a good man. All right. I like that one. All right. We have a minor again here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sample that you brought for us. Yeah. Do you have internet? No, I don't have internet. All right. This is the first time I've seen you here. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. All right. So why do you choose the popular people? Because they have... Strategic. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. All right. Okay, okay. Wow, you've done a lot of work. For sure. Who are you? He's a radio president of Radio Manisha called Sugar Boy. Oh, in Sugar Boy? Yeah, in Sugar Boy. We find a crazy son. You've done so many of them. These are the things you post on your Instagram. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Apart from the pictures of the portraits you've done. Yeah. All right. This is the chairman of the police circle. Yeah, exactly. Mm-hmm. So the framing. Do you do the framing yourself as well? No, I have a boy who do the framing. Yeah. So we divide labor and we're specialized. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We provide employment fear. Exactly. Okay, okay. Looks familiar. Who is this? The former deputy president. Ah, governor. Oh, the former deputy governor of Nairobi. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's been a while since we saw him on mainstream media. Yeah. It's very easy to forget. I see you have a different risk when you're meeting different people. Yeah, obvious. It's very important. It's very important. At least to market yourself when you appear. What you do is advance. So image is very important. Image is very important. Mm-hmm. Especially the dressing code. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Westwards, I hope you're taking notes. All the pencil artists, all the painters out there. Image is very, very important. Mm-hmm. This is Sanipi. Yeah. I'm a big fan. Mm-hmm. Who's this? These are Kikulu, you see now, called Luskin. Luskin? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. We'll talk. Yeah, that's Luskin. Mm-hmm. All right. Mm-hmm. This is the last time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is classic suit. For sure. Mm-hmm. We're gonna be supporting me since day one. Yeah, it's been supporting since day one. Yeah, it's been supporting me. All right. Together, Alex and Makidu. Mm-hmm. I just say thanks to them. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right. Special thanks to everybody who supports Kenyan Artists. Kenyan Artists, man, for sure. If you're on top, you need to help other people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Up for sure. Yeah. All right. And this one is Barry Moore, who's being drawn right now. As I said, please be sure to interact with us. There are social media handles at WhiteFive for Channel on Twitter, WhiteFive for Under School Channel on Instagram, and WhiteFive on Facebook. Barry's getting his first portrait ever. I'm having the first of everything on my end of the morning here. I heard on Friday I had the first of something. Today I'm having the first of something else. And it's a blessing to see Kenyans on Kenyan youth just doing things by their hands and getting paid off it. Mm-hmm. Wow. That was fast. I like that. All right. I'm getting lost in this. Oh, this is how it goes down. Yeah. This is how it goes down. But it just has sketched. Oh, so we've got commandevo. Yeah, we've got commandevo. Okay. Okay. Oh, this is how it feels to be drawn. So sometimes do you get people telling you, ah, do I really look like this? No, no. You call me a teacher. Especially, especially. No, I know I will balance. Yeah. But do you get some people telling you, that they don't think they look like you've drawn the? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then there's some issues on the ladies. Yeah. All ladies, sana sana. Sana sana. Mm-hmm. Yeah, because ladies that are, mungine, I'm a pig at picture. Yeah. Yeah. And the camera. The camera we have got the exact image. But I'm a cata. But I'm a cata, you see. So he won't know some time. Anyway, we compliment Ali in his way. They take time to look good. They have to look good on art as well. So he's in the process of getting a portrait by Bari. A portrait for Bari rather. He goes by the name Ali Hassan. He's all the way from Kali, Kuala County, but he's doing his art or practicing his art in Nairobi right now. And yeah, be sure to catch the repeat of this at 2pm. And we can also find this on YouTube at White Fire 4 Channel. If you happen to miss this or if you know anybody who's a pencil artist and needs this kind of inspiration. So tell them we are on YouTube at White Fire 4 Channel and the repeat is at 2pm. And Bari is being drawn. I'm about to get my first one. And what is your biggest memory? Like the place where Artie was born. What is the place where Artie was born? Maybe Kumita was our big. Kumita was our big? Kumita was our big. Kumita was our big. Right. So now we meet off-initiative here. Reaching out to them and everything. Yeah, yeah, but it's a struggle. We're off here. Like they're debited governors. They have a security. So we have to introduce ourselves well. And we have to take it seriously. You know what I'm thinking maybe. In fact, I'm early. You know what I'm thinking. This is Alshababu. Okay, so there's a lot of discrimination as well. When it comes to alright, alright, alright. I feel that. So it's very important that you know how to carry yourself and present yourself. Exactly. Alright. But it will make me to be like Yemi Eladi. Yeah, like Stefflon Don. You met Yemi Eladi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You met Stefflon. Yeah, Stefflon, but I didn't met her. Yeah. But she had a portrait. Oh, she got a portrait. She got a portrait. And she appreciated a portrait. Exactly. From Kenya. Yeah, yeah. So these are some of the successes here. Alright. And how do you feel when some of these big people post you up and say. I feel good. You feel good. I feel good. Like if someone can, these big people can appreciate my artwork. Then very soon Kenya will appreciate my artwork. In your own places. Yeah, yeah. Alright. So what are some of the other things you do when you're not painting and sleeping? When you're not drawing and sleeping? I like watching. You like watching? Yeah, I like watching. You like watching TV series? I play football. You play football from time to time? Yeah. Which TV series are you watching right now? Please don't tell me Game of Thrones. No, no. Like mostly move quickly into the Badlands. You don't know that series into the Badlands? Into the Badlands? Yeah. I like that series. No, I haven't watched it yet. I need to find it. It's a whole series. It's a less one but it's a good series. It's entertaining as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright. So watching TV series? Yeah, yeah. You don't do it in your free time when you're not sleeping or making. Yeah. Alright. I'm obviously praying. How is Ramadan going for you? Ramadan is taking us. Well, I can't complain about it. You can't complain? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright. Alright. So we are 70% done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So as you finish that eye maybe. So this is just a sketch. This is just a sketch. Yeah. This is just a sketch. But this is how when I framed it looked like this. Yeah, that's just a sample when it's framed. Okay, okay. Yeah, but these are just before they are framed. So this is just a sketch and then you get to the shading. Yeah, and then go to the shading. So the shading also takes its own amount of time. But as soon as you sketch, someone looks like, I just know you have the guy. Alright. So, aha. Let me see where you've gotten so far. So people can get a taste. While you share with them how they can find you on social media and how they can get to do business with you. Let me finish the eye. Alright, just finish the eye. Since you insist. Alright, alright, alright. What is the message you can tell to other artists who are watching you right now? Like anything you do just do with the passion. Don't, as in let me put it in English. Okay. So the difference between here and there is just the key. Wow. So the difference between here and there is just the key. The key is just the key. And the key is for time. Yes, that's for time. Wow. So anything you do. Why is Roman man like that? Man like Aliasa. Yeah. So yeah. Alright. I'm told we have to... A few minutes. We have to come to a halt for this. Okay, okay. Alright. So I think the rest of the portrait, they can get a taste of the rest of the portrait on my Instagram. That is that. It's very well. But for now, let's get to see the sketch so far. Let me see it before I can show it to you. Alright. So this is a sample of the sketch. This is almost 60% done. Wow. Okay. Is you ready? Yes, that's ready. That's it. And Barry is in the cooking. So we have Ali Hassan all the way from Kuala County. Practicing his art right here in Nairobi. And this is just a sketch of Barry. We are going to get to this point. And this is just the start. Yeah. Alright. So be sure to interact with us on our social media handles at WhiteFive4 channel on Twitter, WhiteFive4 underscore channel on Instagram, WhiteFive4 on Facebook. Please remind them how they can get to do business with you. On Instagram is YME Kenya. On Facebook, my page is YME. Then if there's anyone who wants to be trained, I also do training. You also do training. Or maybe the client. My number is zero seven. That's a business number. Zero seven, two seven, three five five, one eight eight. Zero seven? Two seven, three five five, one eight eight. Thank you very much Mr. Ali for coming to White in the morning. Keep the question to the limit. Oh, you have to finish this one. Alright. This is going back to the finish. So you can look something like this. Yeah, at least something like this. Alright. So we've come to the end of our first segment. Join me, which actually is coming up next with another amazing interview. I go by the name of Brian Moses. 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