 Y rai yw'r ymgwrthwrn yw'r cyfnod, y gweithio ar gyfer y byd yn ysgol, sy'n ddiddordeb yn gyfrigio'r rhai gwrthodau ymlaen. Gwladianol y byd yn gweithio'r cyfnod y byd yn gweithio'r cyfnod ar gyfer y byd yn gweithio'r cyfrigio'r cyfnod o'r cyfrigio ar gyfer y byd. Y cyfnod y Gwfnyd, Senedol Dwyddurri, yn gweithio'r cyrfryd o'r cyfrigio'r cyfrigio'r cyfnod ac gallwm bwysig ddaeth o'r tygod, Roedd yn gwneud o'r ddofynod o'r ddweud. Mae hefyd yn angen i'r ddweud o'r ddweud i'r ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud, o'r ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud. Yn gweithio gwybod i'r ddweud, y Llyfrfynu Olufemi Loss, ac yw amser yn gweithio arlaedd. Thank you so much, Mr Lawson, for joining us. Good evening. Good evening to the Plus TV family. It's interesting that just in no time, three years plus has come and almost gone for the Deweyrdiri administration and many would wonder what are the things that the Deweyrdiri administration can point to on its scorecard to say that this is what it would be, let's say, doing better on or bettering upon for the want of a better way to describe it, because you know what they say, one good term deserves another, but what has he done that's outstanding that would make the Biosa people want to bring him back, even though his party has given him the flag? Well, I think he responded to that. The most important thing for me as somebody who have, in the last 14 years, actively followed the political trajectory of Biosa state, I've lived and done business in Biosa state and coupled with the family relationship and other factors that have made me follow Biosa state politics actively. I think one of the most significant factors that the candidate of the PDP, Governor Dewey, would be bringing into this election is the fact that for the first time in the history of Biosa state politics, we are having a situation where we are just about six months ago about the governorship election and there is stability, there is peace and in Biosa it looks so much like, you know, a governorship election is not coming, especially if you have lived in Biosa and you were in Biosa in 2011 while we were preparing for the 2012 2012 governorship election between the then PDP candidates and other candidates. If you were also in Biosa in 2016, the year after President Buwari became the presidential candidate and president of Nigeria under the up progresses congress where we had the then PDP candidate, former governor, Syriac Dix in contesting election. Biosa was at the center stage, Biosa was on the global attention because of, you know, actions of politicians and the on easy tension that characterized- But has that changed? I don't think that has changed. Has it changed? We saw what happened during the general elections time and time again. Has that really changed? Yeah, that is what why I said this time is very peculiar. This time seems to be different and I think what is practically responsible for this is leadership. Leadership in the sense that today I think Biosa is privileged to be under the leadership of a governor who has prioritized governance above politics. In the past, we have seen leaders not only in Biosa state but across states of Nigeria who prioritize politics above governance. But despite being six month away from a very crucial governorship election, Governor Deirdre has continued to prioritize governors consistently remain to delivering on this mandate based on his first time promises to the people of Biosa state rather than being engaged in political activities that would destabilize the state. And that is why, as I speak to you tonight, Biosa is as calm as you can ever imagine to the extent that you will not even believe that there are the governorship primaries just like you alluded to in your introduction in Biosa state as you speak. All right, let's talk about the key players here. Yes, your governor is running on the platform or the governor, I beg your pardon. Deirdre is running on the platform of the People's Democratic Party. But then let's look at the man he's running against and some others who he's also running against. But let's start with the former Minister of State for Petroleum, Mr Silva. Now we know that your governor, Mr Deirdre, this is his first time, he's a first timer. Yes, you are saying, I mean singing his praises and saying he has done a lot and he deserves a second tenor and that he's bringing a totally new dimension to things. But let's look at Mr Silva. This is not his first rodeo. Does Deirdre stand a chance against someone who's not been there just one time? He's been there before and he's returning for a second time. Are you sure that he would be able to stand a chance? It's one of the most important, you know, factors that the people of Biosa and Nigerians are looking forward to in this election is the fact that beyond other candidates, most importantly, the candidates of the now thought force, the Lego Party and of course other political parties that have participated in this election, we are having candidates from two major political parties, the All Progressive Congress, the APC and the People's Democratic Party, the PDP, who have served the states for at least four years before we are going into this election. Governor Deirdre has been a dissadu for over three years now. He will be completing his first four years very soon before, now after this election. And we also have the candidates of the governing All Progressive Congress, Mr Timmy Prysilba, who are the governor of these same states. Now, beyond the participation of the other political parties, the Labour Party and other political parties that have participated in this election, Biosas have a critical, you know, decision to make in choosing between two major political actors, particularly from the major political parties of APC and PDP who are governed by a state before. And this is going to be purely based on not the political campaign promises that Governor Deirdre made, campaign promises for the people of Biosas state in 2020, you know, being the basis for the outcome of the election. And the elections where former governor Timmy Prysilba also participated also, he also made promises. Haven't governed Biosas state for four years, with Governor Deirdre, haven't also governed Biosas state for single term now, Biosas are going to be judging these candidates on the basis of their pedigree. What have we witnessed in Biosas state in the last four years? What has been the pedigree of Governor Deirdre when he talked about peace and stability, when he talked about governance, when he talked about responsibility of government to his people. For those of us who are very familiar with Biosas, for those of us who have done businesses in Biosas, who have relatives in Biosas, who have been part of the political atmosphere of Biosas, are we looking at a situation where we have to access these two major political party candidates on the basis of who the life we lived as citizens of Biosas indigenously, as the case may be for my brothers and sisters who are relatives of this state in the last four years of both candidates. For four years now, we have a state that is not in the news for violence, for military activities, for police brutality, for violent security agencies attack, or are we going to go back to the era where, you know, governance was like, you know, a mirage where nightlife never existed in the state capital, where citizens became so afraid of their government to the extent that government were given various funny and terrible nicknames. So the terms are very clear. Let me come in there. Biosa state is one of the smallest states, surrounded by water, by the way. So it's prone to a loss of flooding over and over again. That's one thing on the other hand. I mean, your governor has been criticised over and over about the flooding issue, but I don't want to go to that dimension. There's a lot of money that Biosa state receives every month. If we were to take a tour of Biosa state, which I have done, by the way, so don't, you're not going to tell me any stories, can we see any difference between how Biosa state was under Syracadixon and under his past predecessor and under him right now? I remember the last time I went to Biosa, I was wondering why you had just one street, one road, one long road. By Biosa has not seen the level of development he should see as a state that has that much revenue coming into its account every single month. Can the governor tell us that he's been able to develop that state with all the monies that he keeps getting every year? I think one of the important things that the Deweydria administration has been doing in Biosa, and I'm not the spokesman of the government, that is important. I'm thinking of somebody who has been actively involved in the political activities of the state, who have lived in the state and dream businesses in the state. Let me state the first and foremost. Whatever you see happening in Biosa state today is happening for the first time, not only in Biosa states in Kogi, Benway, Kirby and some other states that have been affected by the realities of the climate change that we're experiencing as a global community. One, you never had to deal with. Like I said, I'm so sorry to talk over you, Femi. I'm not going to dwell on the flooding. I'm talking about developmental strategies undertaken by the Deweydria administration, the level of revenue that comes into the state, not flood. It's a natural disaster of course. Of course. Actually I have to take that response from the point of, you know, you mentioned the issue of flooding, which was one of the things that are brought by Biosa into the news in the current, you know, in the past couple of months. The truth is that when you talk about development, you have to talk about how well the people have been developed. Not just about the number of roads, bridges, and probably bore holes like some governance are doing that have been done in this state. We are talking about how well have the government been able to develop the capacity of its people to be productive. And you must give that to this administration. The people of Biosa are today productive, basically because there's a leadership in the states that has prioritised the people's development above the development of individuals, politicians, and maybe friends of governors and families. Unlike in the past, where social life, economic life, and other critical sectors of the state, where in the yards of the very few caba, we would not only terrorise the states, but made, you know, social activities, economic activities, practically impossible in the state because of the security situation in Biosa state. The issue of, you know, the oppression for Mutangbe, the also of the terrorist cult activities in Biosa state, this is not what is known to me. This is a public knowledge. It's available for you on the news and Google. What used to be the story of Biosa state some years before, you know, from 2012 to 2016. So the idea is that now we are looking at a state where, relatively, you can drive in even at 1am, 2am, economic prosperity. As I speak to you, for the first time in the history of the state, we have more people from all parts of the country, resident in Biosa state today, like Daimri. You can't say what's been in these two of the states. Okay. Well, I want to say thank you, Femmi Lawson. I'm sure that there's going to be more conversations around these elections and what the governor has done. And of course, around the people who are running against him, maybe we'll have this conversation again. Look, Femmi Lawson is a pro-democracy activist. Thank you so much for speaking with us. My pleasure. All right. Well, that's to show you tonight and before we leave you, we'll leave you with the highlights of the week in case you miss some parts of the programme, we'll bring you a rundown of all the conversations we've had this week. Have a beautiful weekend. I am Mary Annacon. Good evening. I am Mary Annacon. Good evening. I am Mary Annacon. Good evening. We tend to ignore what people say, what they do, how they respond to questions, when they are running. We help them to cover up. So, we create heroes when people are running for office. And then people come out and start to explain what they will do. We say, ah, why are they just talking? Just talking. So, the issue is that I listen to President Bwari, what he said by himself. I knew that he would not do too well because of the fact that desires and wishes are different from new understanding. And while he sat down on that throne, we were understanding the problems under him. We were interpreting the problems under him. So, it is the end. What we owe him now is just a blissful retirement. And who is coming will not fall into the same oblivion where you are sitting down there and people are whispering to you what to say. You do not know what you are going to say. You just announce people's names. You cannot control them. You cannot follow them. You are not receiving data. You are not reacting to data. Those are the problems. I think President Bwari became President 30 years behind him. Increment of 12 from just about 70 something error to 90 something error of that about in 2012. And there was no protest across the country. But under the Bwari administration, we have increased from 165 to 700 to 600 error. So, if some of those steps we have taken would have gone a long way to intense the image that is trying to open now. Answers happen under this administration. And these are issues that threaten security in the country. So, to a very large extent, I would say that the President performed beyond what others could do. But to a very large extent, I believe that there was some retruxion in the way that attacks were happening from across the country compared to under Cymru. So, I would not just agree with things that under the current administration that it is something we should celebrate 100% because there is a kind of high rating of the Nigerian military from this 7th position to the 4th position on that. The call for a democratic transformation of Sudan's system of governance has been the call for many years that resulted to many coups in military government leading Sudan. So, this call for a democratic transformation is going to continue creating more problems in Sudan until they have really realized this aspiration. Number two, I think the control of power. I mean the two general now seem to be running after controlling the system and the government and even the resources management of the country. So, it is going to be really discussed and talked about these two things because as soon as one is leading the country, the resource management and exploitation will be in the hand of one of them. Although they might not be committed to the democratic transformation, they will invest very much in positioning their power having resource in their hand.