 Welcome to Think Tech Hawaii. Konnichiwa Hawaii, a Japanese language broadcast streaming live from downtown Honolulu and available on YouTube. I'm your host Yukari Kunisue and joining me today is Mr. Keizaburo Tsuji, one of the earlier Japanese businessmen in New York City. He's not, he's now retired in Hawaii but spent almost 50 years in New York City working for Takashima and Mitsukoshi department store. This is Mr. Keizaburo Tsuji, one of the earlier Japanese businessmen in New York City. Mr. Tsuji, thank you very much for joining us today. Hi. Hi. I'm talking about my old story. It's about the old days. As you can see, the way you change in the world is fast. It's about the old days. I'd like you to tell us about the old days. This is about the old days. I was told that there was a boat. How long did you go? Where? I went to Japan on December 5, 1915. The boat was just two weeks away from Japan. Two weeks? Yes. I went out from Yokohama and arrived in San Francisco on December 17, 1991. From there, where did you go from there? From there, I was planning to enter the University of Minnesota, so I went to the Minnesota University of San Francisco with my family. There is a pretty cold place in Minnesota, so you started studying there. Yes. When I came to Japan, I didn't know when I would come back to America, so I used to go to the lake Sakazuki. I couldn't come back here, so I came out from there. What did you study in Minnesota University of? I studied the management of management of management. I didn't need to speak English, so I studied management in that way. Did you have a hard time in English at first? Yes, I had a hard time, but I had a lot of English at some point. Since you were in Japan? Yes, I was in Akita High School. I was studying English at the time, but they told me that I was going to study English every week. So I studied English all the time. So you had a lot of Americans in Akita High School? Yes, I had a lot of Chinese students. I was able to study English at that time, so I called them and told them I wanted to study in America. So I came to Minnesota University. So you got a connection there? Yes, I did. I was able to study English at that time, and after that, were you able to go back to Japan? I didn't have that much money to go back to Japan. I was looking for a part-time job right away. I worked at a university cafeteria, and I worked at a department in Minnesota. So I didn't have much time to go back to Japan. So I went straight to New York. Do you remember when you were in Japan? Yes, I was in Japan when I was in college. I worked in the U.S.銀行, but I was in Tokyo. At that time, I was able to go back to Tokyo. I was able to go back to Tokyo. I was able to go back to Tokyo. So you got a salary of 8,000 yen? Yes, when it comes to 8,000 yen, I got a salary of 360 yen at once. But I wanted to buy a lot of things with that salary. So it was 400 yen. So you had a salary of 40 yen. It was 20 dollars. It was 20 dollars in the money of the Americans. It was 27 dollars in the money of the Americans. I see. I came to the US and looked for the part-time job of the Americans. I got the money first. At that time, the students couldn't work for 40 hours. They had to work for 20 hours. They had to work for 20 hours. They had to work for 20 hours a week. They had to work for 20 hours a week. It was the same as in the university. It was the same as in the university. You said you had a passport at that time. Can you show it to us? Can you show it to us? This is the passport of Japan. It was in the 1950s. In the 1950s. Please open it. This is a certificate. It was a passport of the certificate. It is written in Japanese. It is written in Japanese. It is also written in Japanese. This is the next page. This is the next page. This is the page of the young Tsuji Keisaburo. Please show it to us. How old are you? I am 24 years old. I was working in this young young New York. I was working in this young young New York. This was my photo of Tsuji Keisaburo. Thank you. You found a job in New York. I found a job in New York. I had my first year in New York. I had been in America ever since I graduated university. I had been in New York. There was no job related to Japan, so I couldn't get a visa. So I decided to go to New York because I didn't have a job related to Japan. However, I didn't find out if I had a job or not. One of my best friends, Mr. Michio Kushi, has been active in the U.S. since 1953. I asked him how he got Mr. Michio Kushi, and he said he went to New York. Mr. Michio Kushi is a famous writer, isn't he? Yes. When I went to New York, Mr. Michio Kushi told me a lot of stories about Japanese companies. In the U.S., he told me he didn't know anything about Japan before, but he came to Japan to learn about Japanese culture. He told me a lot of stories about Japan, and Mr. Michio Kushi asked me to help him out. He told me he was going to go to a store on the 5th floor, so when I went out, he told me he was going to go to a store on the 5th floor. He told me he was going to study in the U.S., so I went to the store on the 5th floor and helped him out. Before we go into more detail about Mr. Michio Kushi, I'd like to tell you about Mr. Michio Kushi. Mr. Michio Kushi is a very hard-working person, and he has been promoted from the U.S. to the U.S. He is a veteran of the Beatles, John Lennon, and Mr. Onoyoko, who came to see Mr. Michio Kushi. He told me he was going to a store on the 5th floor, so I went to a store on the 5th floor. Mr. Michio Kushi was a veteran of the Beatles, John Lennon, and Mr. Onoyoko, who came to see Mr. Michio Kushi. He came to the U.S. from Japan to study in the U.S. in 1953. He is a veteran of the Beatles, John Lennon, and Mr. Michio Kushi was a former member of the G.H.Q. He was a former member of the G.H.Q. and G.H.Q. He came to the U.S. from Japan to study in the U.S. He didn't have a passport? He didn't have a Japanese passport. He came to the U.S. from Colombia to study in the U.S. In Japan, people from the state of Osawa have started eating in front of the street. That's how they feel. When they go to the US, they try to spread it. Especially in the US, people have been suffering from food waste. In the US, they eat meat, drink milk, and drink Coca-Cola on various sides. That's how they do it. In the US, if you eat meat in front of the street and drink Coca-Cola, it will be bad for your health and your body. That's how it is now. That's how Americans feel. They want to eat meat in front of the street. That's how Americans feel. They don't like meat in front of the street. That's how they feel. That's how they feel. If you eat meat in front of the street and drink it in front of the street, your body will feel better. That's how it is now. 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We're back from break. I'm Yukari Kunisui, and this is Konnichiwa, Hawaii, talking with Mr. Kei Zaburo Tsuji. Live, That's it. Now, let's talk about the business man life in New York. Let's talk about that. Also, I'd like to talk about the history of Hawaii. I think there are some people who want to retire by living in America. I think Hawaii is a very popular destination. I'd like to talk about that as well. In New York, weren't there any Japanese businessmen at that time? Yes. There weren't many Japanese businessmen at that time. However, I was surprised by that. When I was in the war, I was in China. I went through a difficult war and came to America. In fact, I opened a shop in Kobangai. I was surprised to find out that there were many Japanese businessmen who didn't know Japanese businessmen. They didn't know Japanese businessmen? Yes. When I helped the construction of the shop, I was surprised to find out what was coming from the Japanese department. I wondered what Japanese department was coming and what they were selling. I was surprised to find out that there were many Japanese businessmen. What they were selling were small Japanese glassware, costume jewelry, and a famous Japanese dollarblast. I didn't buy any Japanese goods that were cheaper. Japanese businessmen came to the Japanese department and opened a shop in Kobangai. I didn't think about it at all. All the men brought from Japan were the best of them. I see. I was surprised every day and thought, I had come to the Japanese department so many people came in. But when they came in, I asked them what department they were in. I asked them if they had a department in Japan. I was often asked which department is in China. I see. I don't know much about Japan. What kind of goods did you buy? I don't know what to use. You are talking about your father-in-law. At that time, I had to stop thinking about how to distribute it. I had to take a look at the American life. My father-in-law was a copy of a book. A copy of a book? Yes. The other side of the book was made of metal. Oh, it was made of metal. Yes, it was made of metal. The edge of the book was made of iron. This was made of iron. Many people in Hawaii do this, right? Yes, iron. That's how Takashima started. That's how Takashima started. I see. I didn't know that Japan was like that. I see. I don't know what kind of market test it was. I went to Takashima. I came to Takashima and said that I should buy a little. Then I left the Panasonic fan, and I left the Hitati transistor radio. It was a good place to test the market for the snorkeling. I see. I think it was very expensive to buy it. At the time of running, there was a place where it was a place to cooperate. That's right. I see. Now it's called Shiseido. Shiseido. Now it's a really high-end product. Shiseido didn't have a name. It was called Digest. I couldn't use it. Shiseido sold cosmetics in the name of Zen. I see. Then it was called Seiko. I couldn't use the name Seiko. So I changed the spelling of Seiko. It was called Okizu. It was called Seiko Toki. I see. There is a story behind it. I see. It must have been hard to understand Japanese. It must have been hard. I try to bring Japanese things to a place that I don't know about. After that, I moved to Mitsukoshi. Takashimaya-san... While I was doing that, I couldn't sell sweets. There was a lot of firewood. I couldn't do anything. I knew how to sell it. I wanted to bring it to a cheap place. So I brought something cheap. Then I came to Taishan Base. At that time, the Japanese government became better. Travelers came to America more and more. Then I went to Takashimaya. When I saw it, I said that Takashimaya had a great store. When I came, I was embarrassed to say that I was selling such a cheap store. I was embarrassed to say that I was selling such a cheap store. I was embarrassed to say that I was selling such a cheap store. I was embarrassed to say that I was selling such a cheap store. Then I closed the store for 20 years. I see. That's how it happened. When I stopped selling in the 20th year, Okada-san was the head of the media company. The mayor of Okada-san was Takashimaya's mayor. He was Mr. Mitsukoji. Oh, Mr. Mitsukoji of Okada-san was. Okada-san said, Mr. Mitsukoji is going to show us it. So I just showed you the store. I was reflected there again. I see. You were a little bit of a department hopping. I would like you to move on a little bit ahead of time because you have been working there for 50 years and you have been working there for a long time, and you have been living in Hawaii after you became a regular person. How long have you been living in Hawaii? I have been living in Hawaii for 15 to 16 years. After all, I think that the people who lived in New York are retired from Hawaii and enjoy their lives. Do you think it was good to come here? Well, I think it was good now. The first choice was that Hawaii was not a primary. It was not the first hope, wasn't it? I wanted to work in New York. At that time, I was also involved in a company called Nihon Koudou. When I went to the store in Florida, I was suddenly barbecued, and I was bitten by a mouse. I was bitten by a mouse and I was bitten by a mouse. I was surprised. Even if I was healthy, I would be fine. So I didn't know what would happen tomorrow. I thought it would be better to retire soon, so I retired in the next year. Florida is warm, but there are strange bugs. So I decided to retire in Florida. My son was in San Francisco, so I was going to retire in San Francisco. I was in San Francisco. My son was over 200 million years old. My son was in Silicon Valley. I can't buy a house if I retire. My daughter was living in Hawaii. So your daughter was already living in Hawaii? Yes. So you have a strong heart to live with your son. What do you live like now? Since I came to Hawaii, my wife has been gone for about 5 years. Since then, I've been living alone. I'm glad I came to Hawaii now. It's a good thing to hear. It's the best thing to hear. It's a good thing to hear. It's a good thing to hear. There are some people who say that it's cultural compared to New York. How is it? Do you listen to music or do you do art? I listen to music. I listen. It's a good place to live. I miss New York. I miss New York. I know the city of New York. I think that's why I love New York. Los Angeles is where I live. I'm living in New York. Ah, that's right. It's not a good woman like you. After being active in New York, I'm glad that there are some things that are not enough in Hawaii right now. That's why I'm living here. That's right. There are a lot of things. It's a very expensive thing to make. That's right. I'd like to ask you a few more questions. It seems like we're running out of time. Please tell us more about it. Mr. Tsuji, I think it was really interesting to hear about the fact that Japanese business leaders have suffered a lot. Thank you very much. We're out of time. Mr. Tsuji, thank you so much for coming. Thank you for coming and talking with us. We're going to bring more Japanese shows in Japanese language. Thank you for watching. I'm your host, Yukari Kunise. See you next time.