 Welcome member Roberts and member Steffi. Can we go ahead and test both your audio and video, please? We appreciate it. Member Steffi, are we able to test your audio and video? All right, everyone, it's 6 o'clock, but we're still missing two members, so we need to wait until they get here so we have a quorum. So please stand by, but please turn on your cameras and get ready to stop. Member Burnett, you're at the bottom, right hand corner of your screen, and it's a little spooky for Halloween. I don't know if you're planning that, but dramatic. Thank you. I would just like to make a quick announcement since we have this little bit of time and celebrate the little things. I just want to state that this is my very first time using a virtual background, and I'm so proud of myself because I am the least technological person, and the fact that I figured it out, I'm just like amazed at life. So just wanted to, again, highlight the little, the small wins. I can tell you, Miguelia, that during some of our Copy Strong meetings, we always use this background because we're at the COVID hospital. And we have quorum. As soon as Member Square turns on his camera. And with quorum. Oh, and there's member Richardson's on there. Yay, look at you. Thanks for joining us. This is awesome. Look at that. We'll call this meeting to order and have a roll call, Daniel. Yes. And because I'm working from home this evening, I cannot see my screen when I call on you, so please unmute yourself when I call your name. Member Baldenegro. Here. Member Barnett. Member Rahm. Member Richardson. Here. Member Roberts. Here. Member Square. Here. Member Steppy. Here. Member Tornado will not be here this evening. Vice Chair Innocencio. Here. And Chair Graves. Present. Okay, let the record show that we have all members present except for members Harper and Tornado. Thank you. And we do have scheduled an agenda. Item number two would be an oath of office for our new CAB member, Robin Barnett Fallow. I don't know if I'm saying that right. And I don't see her on screen, so are we sitting back? She, yeah, she had an unexpected meeting come up that she could not miss. And so she will do her oath of office at the November meeting. Great, thank you. So, it's record number two off the list and moving on to public comments. I do see we have 70 in attendance or in total, so maybe we have some public comments. We do have one hand raised for public comment. One moment while I pull up the timer. Our first public comment will come from Regina. Regina, I have unmuted your microphone. Do you see the timer on your screen? Regina, are you able to unmute your microphone? I can now. Thank you. Okay, sure, all right. I'm really, I apologize. I'm doing three zooms at one time, but thank you so much for inviting public comment. Thank you so much for having an evening meeting. As you just said, I'm Regina Brennan. I am one of the co-founders for the Sonoma County Black Forum. I recognize some of the good people that's on this committee. And we would like to thank you. Thank you so much for approving the community improvement grant for our nonprofit organization. Now, most of you know that as a nonprofit, we rely on supporters and donors to implement our vision for an informed, inclusive and engaged community. You must know that your support means a lot to us and it helps us to do our important work. I also would like you to know that in September of 2020 to March of this year, we were able to provide 3,311 families and individuals with food assistance and personal care items. The funding that we will receive from CAV will support our upcoming food distribution that's scheduled for Saturday, January 22nd. We again, we thank you so much for including us. We thank you for your ongoing community support as well as it helps us do our community engagement program. So hope you all have a real good evening and thanks again. Thank you. There are no further hands raised for public comment. Thank you for that and thank you, Regina, for coming forward with public comments and submitting that application. I just want to be clear that we are going to be going over the applications later in our agenda. So you are forecasting ahead to an approval and I just- My apologies, I guess I misread the agenda. I'm so sorry. That is okay. I like your positive spirit and I feel good about this evening, but I don't want to take the approval process away from the CAV members. Also- Thank you. All right. And moving right along from that, after public comments is item number three, excuse me, item number four with approval of minutes. Your minutes were attached and linked in the agenda. Does anyone have any questions or edits for the minutes that were from August 25th of 2021? I see none. Does anyone have a motion to approve? I move to approve the August fifths. That was member Roberts with a motion and with a second. I second. Member Richardson with a second. And Danielle, do you want to take that vote? Yes. Pull this up here. You just one moment guys. Okay. Member Baldenegro. Aye. Member Barnett. Yes. Member Rom. Yep. Member Richardson. Yes. Member Roberts. Yes. Member Square. You can't see you, so. Thank you, Member Steffi. Yes. Vice Chair Innocencio. Yes. And Chair Graves. Yes. All right, the motion passes with all yeses. Thank you. Thank you. And at this time, public comment on approval of minutes. There are no hands raised for public comment. Thank you. Cab announcements. This is a time when cab members may share community news of interest to the cab as a whole and for upcoming events and important announcements. Are there any at this time? I can see you, by the way. I saw you member Barnett. So you had to hand up for an announcement. I just want to make the cab aware on November 1st and November 2nd. The City of Santa Rosa in partnership with a whole collection of nonprofits. If you've read the grant applications on the grant applications ties to this. Dia de los Muertos will be going on in Courthouse Square and I do want to encourage and invite all cab members to come in. It's a wonderful community event. And if you haven't been on the website to take a look, the lineup of everything that's happening over that two-day event is extraordinary. So if you have not gone, I highly encourage. It is absolutely an incredible event but the fact that we're getting to have a in-person outdoor event in November is super, super rewarding. So I hope to see, I hope all of you get an opportunity to come down and just to go on this and just see some of the performances and the ceremonies. It's a really incredible community event. A second fact, it is a great event. Any other announcements from cab members? I've got one. Number Robert? I just want to mention that both the city and county, their housing authority, section eight wait lists are closing soon. The city's October 31st in the county's November 1st. If anyone knows anyone who wants to get on that one. They've been open for a number of weeks. So I'd like to include the number of weeks in that just so that we know that's not just the next couple of days. Yeah, I know Santa Rosa's open September 1st. All the way to October 31st in the counties was October 1st to November 1st. And I can say that we exceeded the wait list numbers before we were even halfway through. So the numbers last year, we exceeded that number before we were even halfway through with this year's wait list deadline. So there is a significant need in the community. Further announcements? I don't see, member Richardson was at you or? I think I just saw your hand. I don't see any other announcements. And I have to tell you that I had them in my head and I might come back to them, but I've lost much in thought trying to keep track of things right now. So I apologize for that. But no further announcements. Do we have any public comments on this? There are no hands raised for public comment. Thank you. Moving on to staff updates. So this is where the staff is going to provide some brief, some briefing on some of the issues. And then y'all, I believe you're taking it away. Yes, so I have some very exciting news to share with everybody. As some of you may know him, others of you who are new. This is Daniel Shapiro, also known as Danny. Danny is a former CAB member who was hired by the city of Santa Rosa by our team as our new community outreach specialist. So Danny will be working directly with me and the Violence Prevention Partnership, but will be doing, so he will actually be taking over the day-to-day coordination of the Multicultural Roots Project. He will be, once we're back in person and finally able to do in-person events, which coming, he will be coordinating the NeighborFest program. And he will also be helping out the Violence Prevention Partnership as a member of the Crisis Response Team and doing school in-person school outreach. So we're super excited to have him here and he will also be helping out here and there with the CAB as well. So he has come full circle, started as a CAB member and now he's a staff person. So I just wanted to give everyone the opportunity to meet Danny. And I don't know if you wanna say a couple words before we- No, I'm glad, I'm okay, everyone. Thank you, Daniel, for that introduction because she said everything better than I could have said it, right? I'm still getting familiar with the city and I'm happy to be here. But like she said, I'm full circle. I used to be part of this CAB team. So some of you are familiar faces, but hello to everyone else. But yeah, I'm super excited to just be supporting this group and then supporting my team at the city. So I'm happy to be part of this meeting and get to know all of you. So yeah, looking forward to it. Thank you, Daniel. Thank you, Danny. Okay, with that, I'm gonna turn it over to Magali. She has an update from our team about some of the trainings that we have been doing. Thank you, Danielle. And welcome again, Danny. We're super, super excited. It's very cool that when I started working you were a CAB member. So now it's like y'all said, full circle. So I do have a quick update and we're gonna skip back and forth between me and Danielle to do some of these updates. Our violence prevention partnership team, which is part of community engagement has been participating in a number of trauma-informed care workshops led by Nick Dalton from the Hannah Institute. And so these workshops are incredibly important because we have a number of different community organizations and agencies that are participating and learning along with our entire team. So we're learning things kind of in the realm of, like for example, today we have a session and we're learning about the new sort of reframe on the term BIPOC, which is Black Indigenous People of Color. And that other sort of sections of the country are also using this sort of newer iteration, which is IBCOC, which it starts with Indigenous Black people of color. So it's kind of interesting to learn and stay up to date on kind of what the newer language is in terms of being trauma-informed. We also learned about race-based traumatic stress, which is a way of, it's in a way of becoming, it's on its way to becoming a clinical term. It is similar to PTSD, my understanding is, and it's essentially when someone has sustained mental and or emotional injuries sustained via a racially charged traumatic event. So there's a number of different tools that our team is adding to our tool bell in terms of being more trauma-informed in the way that we connect with community and in the way that we do our work. So, Danielle, I think you're gonna do the next piece. Yeah, thank you. All right. So moving on to our community empowerment plan update, we have completed the resolution declaring racism as a public health crisis, and it will be going before city council on November 16th. Those meetings are open to the public. So I encourage anyone who is available to attend to attend that. Magali and I will be presenting that item. There's still time, speaking of Dia de los Muertos, so kind of piggybacking on what member Barnett was talking about. There's still time to check out the Dia de los Muertos exhibit at the Museum of Sonoma County, where we have participated in that event with the multicultural roots display. We got to go to community day last weekend, I think I've lost track of time, but it was really well attended and a really beautiful event. They're working on a second community day, I believe, although I haven't heard when that will be, the event goes through November 7th. And then just a quick update on the low rider patrol car project. We are getting set to begin work simultaneously on the artwork on the outside of the car, the upholstery on the inside, and then the new stereo system. We also are ordering the tires and rims this week, which should hopefully take, or fingers crossed, about a month to get here. And I am actually gonna pass it back to Magali. We are running into some challenges with the car and we were hoping to have it done by January, but it looks like we're going to be pushing that out just a little bit further, she can talk about that more. Yeah, and that's just really based on what you all heard about national shipping issues that are happening, right? So because we're all sort of experiencing this national issue, I'd rather not stress out our entire team, or stress out these from a kind of the order council and trying to push this thing if items are delayed due to shipping. So we wanna be able to give ourselves some of that space. Thank you. And so that's it for the community empowerment plan update. Moving on to open government, quick update, there is our October meeting, which was scheduled for this past Monday, ended up being canceled due to staffing shortages and other scheduling conflicts. And we decided not to reschedule that, but we'll be rescheduling December's meeting as that falls during the holiday time. So we're hoping to hold that sometime in early December, rather than the end of the month. And then the last update that we have for everyone is, which I'll turn over to Magali, but just quickly the city has come up with a new set of protocols to help guide us into going back to doing in-person events and tabling. So she can talk about that real quick. And that's basically a lot of the guidance that we've all kind of been using caution with, right? So if we're gonna be attending an outdoor event, we still have to wear a mask. We have to social distance. We're really going to make sure to not really have any high touch items and really kind of finding ways to continue to mitigate by providing all sort of the clerks wipes and all the resources that are necessary to sanitize areas, but they are pretty much a lot of the guidelines that you all have been using in terms of staying COVID safe. All right, and that is it for our staff updates. Thank you. Thank you, Danielle and Magali at this time. Are there any questions on any of those topics that Danielle and Magali went over during staff updates from the CAB board members? It looks like members square asked when will the conversation about racism being a public health crisis? Will that be held? November 16th at the city council. Are you asking about in Sonoma County in general or just Santa Rosa, the one that I just asked? The one that you just were talking about, I'm just finding out, trying to find out more information so that I can attend. So it's November 16th, and is it in person or is it busy? It's either in person or via Zoom. So once they release the agenda for that, the Zoom link will be in the agenda and I can send out that Zoom link to the CAB in a separate email. We're really encouraging as many people to attend as possible. It's a very important item that's also, and Magali, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's pretty historical for the city to be discussing this. She and I spent about an hour and a half back in May during a presentation on systemic racism in Santa Rosa and Sonoma County to the council and this was what they asked us to bring back. And so this is the result of that. So anyone is welcome to attend that on November 16th. The meeting starts at 4 p.m. Although it is a presentation item, so to probably, I would imagine it probably wouldn't happen until at least five o'clock. And I just wanna add that they are allowing community members into the chambers, but staff are still being asked to come in remotely. So Danielle and I would probably be broadcasting from our office, but we definitely wanna encourage community members. I believe the capacity is 17 people in person. So I just wanted to kind of put that out there as well. Yeah, so thank you for that. And yeah, it would be nice to, if you could send me some more information, in terms of like, just something formal. Yeah, absolutely. I can share that as well, you know. Absolutely. And also interested in learning more about this new term that Miguel was talking about, IMPOC? Yeah, it's IMPOC. So putting Indigenous starting out with Indigenous and then Black people of color. So we're learning about these, because we're also learning about, not using terms like at-risk use anymore, and there's other terminology like at-promise use, right? And even further terms that are really kind of helping us place community, situate community differently than the way that we've spoken about communities that have been really historically underfunded. So I'm happy. I'd actually really like to if the opportunity presents itself when we're done with this eight month intense, of course. I'd like to see if we could come up and present some of the highlights, right? That we learned from the trauma-informed work, because I think it's really important for the city to really start taking more steps. Because it's very healing for some of us as people of color, it's very validating, but it's also very triggering. So I'm trying to find a way that is a really good fit to do it. Yeah, totally understandable. I'm an Africana Studies major, which doesn't mean too much of anything, but just saying that to say that I spend a lot of time researching these things and studying them and comprehensively understanding them. IMPOC is a very interesting term. I went to San Francisco State University where terms like these are used in ways that are disadvantageous to blacks. I mean, I don't even wanna get into it right now, but basically when you're talking about resources and getting resources, putting that in front of black automatically will make, it just prioritizes where the resources are going to. And when you look at the data and the facts and talking about racism in Sonoma County, and just racism in a black period, but in particularly in Sonoma County because the data was already done by the Sonoma County Human Rights Commission, Deneetra Smith and a few other people. Black folks are at the top. Black folks are the number one victims in Sonoma County when it comes to racism and attacks that are associated with hate groups. So terms like that kind of put a ring in my ear because a lot of times when black folks are involved with ambiguous terms like that, they always tend to get pushed to the back. And I see this as another tactic in a situation where that could be potentially happening. And so I wanna make sure that black folks in Sonoma County are aware of that because if this is an issue, racism is a public health crisis that is gonna be brought to the forefront in Sonoma County. And black folks in Sonoma County must be at the forefront in terms of where those resources are gonna be allocated. Period. But thank you, I appreciate it. And when you get a chance, send me some more of that information so that I can share it with my associates and relative groups, relevant groups. Thank you. I appreciate that member square. And these are the conversations that we feel are incredibly crucial to the growth and progress of the city. So we're trying to educate ourselves, even if I'm an immigrant and I'm a person of color, there's a lot of education that I need to do around our other community groups, right? So that exists in this community, right? Especially cause I didn't grow up in Santa Rosa. So those conversations we'd love to have because we wanna make sure that we're using the terminology that is most, that feels the best with the, that resonates the best with the community that we are serving here, right? So that terminology may be working in like other parts of the country, but we wanna make sure that what we're using is what works for Santa Rosa. So love to have more conversation about that. For sure, for our team to educate ourselves and just also for me to know some of these things as we lead with this. And I think there was another handout, sorry. Yes, thank you for that. And great information, by the way. Just wanna say that I haven't heard that term before, but you said that it was being used in another part of the country. Love to know what part of the country that's started. But I could see the relevance, especially right now, I believe we just started Native American Heritage Month, Indigenous American Heritage Month. So we're topical in that moment. And I hear everything that Member Square is saying as well. And the hand up was member Richardson. So I'm gonna call on you for comments and questions. So I just wanna just say that we do use as a therapist, we do use Black, Indigenous people of color, but also working for the federal government and higher education and working with veterans. The federal government has a push to identify underrepresented and underserved members of the community and that's tied to money. And so Native American and Pacific Islanders, those communities are underrepresented more so than people of African American descent. Even in our community that we live in, there is a large underrepresented population of Native American or Indigenous people. Although I think historically in Sonoma County and systemically, I think these are good. I think as a person of color and working clinically with people of color, I think just having somebody that looks like them or can identify with certain experiences or feelings related to trauma that non-persons of color can't, right? They can't look at the disparities and healthcare and education and financial housing, right? Those things. So it'll be interesting to see because as a person of color, I go through all these clinical trainings and trauma-informed therapy, that's what I do. So I'm not sure whether they're using where they're placing that I in front of the B. But I'd like to, you said it was a presenter, Hannah Boy Center. So I'm gonna look for some additional data and maybe reach out to the quick person there because it would be interesting to see whether in a clinical profession, we use black Indigenous people of color. So it's, and they're trying to standardize things nationally. So it'll be interesting to see where that switch and terminology came from. That's all I have to say. Sure, and I'm happy to get more information on that. So it's Hannah Institute, which is associated with Hannah Boy Center, but it's sort of its own standalone organization. Thank you. Follow-up presentation as well. It's really insightful with all that you do, member Richardson to bring that to the table as well. So thank you. Any other questions or comments for the staff updates? I don't see any from members. And I have one and it got brought up in our mayor's meeting most recently is just the status and because you mentioned guidance on events updates is, and I know that we're getting to later in the agenda, talk about our role in your going forward in virtual or a hybrid or in person. So this kind of all ties in together is the status of needing a vaccination card either for ourselves or, you know, how is that going to be interfaced when going out to events? I personally have an interest in that. I will just admit it to the rest of the board. I am compromised in my immune system right now. So I look for that when I have gone to one event just recently, I finally went to one and it was requiring vaccination cards, but I do realize that there's a little bit of a stumbling block sometimes in some groups. So right now, I believe is that the city staff are all required to be vaccinated. I can't remember what it is and then how will that present itself for community boards and when we go out in public? You might not know the answer. That's a really great question. As of now, unfortunately, I don't have the percentage and we can get that information, but there's a high percentage of city center as a staff that is vaccinated. If staff are not vaccinated, there are other measures being taken to make sure that folks are safe in spaces. And in terms of, I mean, in person, the only thing that's really kind of happened indoors is the opportunity to go into council chambers. And my understanding and Danielle, unless you've heard differently, I don't believe we're asking for immunists vaccine cards. We are not, that is not a requirement. But that is a conversation that definitely I think is needed in terms of for a group this size. And what space is available, whether this group would like to go forward in hybrid format or what is the plan? Which we will be talking about later in this meeting because it is an agenda item. Sounds good. Yes, I did mention that. And just want to tag on to that and get my thoughts straight. Is that the events that you're talking about and the events, guidance on events, these are all outdoor events? That is correct. One of the points in that guidance document that they sent us was that while we are allowed to be at indoor events, they are highly encouraging us to remain outdoors. So if it is an indoor event, find out if it's possible to have a table outdoors. And then if we are doing our own events to keep those events outside for now. Which is, it's a challenge because it is we're getting into the colder, wetter season. So there probably won't be very many opportunities to table particularly for the cab until next year, just because we typically don't table at this time of year anyway. Thank you for all that clarity and information. And I realized it's an ongoing challenge to come up sometimes with policy too that's going to be overriding for maybe all of the boards and all of the commissions, not just us. So I understand that. At this time with no other questions or comments from board members, we'll move on to public comments for staff updates. There are no hands raised for public comment. Thank you. And moving right along, I was kind of somewhat of the apex of tonight is our scheduled items and item number 7.1 is our reports on the Community Improvement Grant Program for quarter three applications for funding. And these applications were all turned in during the period from September 30th until now, correct? And I believe Danielle is going to give us a presentation on these. That is correct. I'm just waiting for my slides and there they are. So just, so again, as Chair Graves mentioned, these are the quarter three applications received between July 1st and September 30th. Next slide, please. So I'm going to run through this again really quick, just the background and the eligibility and evaluation criteria, because it did get quite a few questions that came up from members about this. So again, council provides cab funding every year. Generally it's 5,000 per district, so 35,000 total, although we have extra funds available due to grants not being spent or the funds not being spent down. The goal of the program is to support community building, improve neighborhoods, strengthen city relationships with the community and currently suspended by a fund neighbor fest. Community groups can apply up to $2,500 and this can be a formal or informal neighborhood group. It can be a school, a nonprofit, of any size, service club, HOA like basically pretty much and I believe at one point we have businesses on there as well. So as long as it's a community building project that they will be doing, it is you are eligible to apply. Next slide. Eligibility criteria. So in lieu of neighbor fest, the projects must be a physical improvement, so such as a community garden or mural creation, neighborhood cleanup or a community practice project such as a neighborhood association formation, leadership development trainings. They must align with city council goals and priorities to the current ones. They must have written approval from property owner or the city and there's a couple of different exceptions to this, right? Like which I can get into in a bit but there were some questions about permit approvals. As long as they're in the process of going through the permit approval, there's one for example where the permit isn't quite complete but I did verify with the community group that the principle of the high school is already given preliminary okay. It's just the permit approval process system that they use takes a really long time. As long as that's in process, that's fine. So where required again, must have permits and approval or again, a letter stating pre-approval and then budgets must have only eligible expenses and must show a one-to-one match. Next slide please. So the evaluation criteria does this application support community building and show community support? Is there a project team? Is the budget well thought out reasonable, realistic? How many people will this project reach? Is the project environmentally friendly and is the project free of charge and accessible to a wide range of participants? So I will, I'll stress this now. These are the questions that you should be asking yourself as you're reviewing the applications. So I can definitely send these out again for the next round of applications as you're reviewing but these are the real important pieces that you need to keep in mind. Next slide please. So this quarter, we received 11 applications from a variety of different community groups for a variety of different projects, couple of different mural projects, Labor Day Center or Day Labor Center renovation projects, a couple of food distribution projects, a couple of community events and some additional art projects as well. Next slide please. So I wanted to provide some information same as I did last time when we were looking at the quarter to two grants. So we started out this year with $82,661. For the 2020 projects outstanding, we have $12,454, although some of those are starting to come in now which is exciting. Some of those projects are getting completed. Quarter 200 projects amounted to $13,328 and then the funding requests for this quarter was $27,323. So if you decide to fund all of those projects this quarter, your remaining budget for the quarter four applications would be $29,556. Again, if all projects are funded and reimbursed. Next slide please. So our recommendation, we recommend that the CAB fund all 11 projects for this grant period. All of them are eligible for funding and I believe that Chair Graves has a list of questions that I replied to and sent out to the entire board. I also have a couple of questions from another member that I received today that I'll go over in just a moment. But I wanna be clear that I'm only sending you eligible projects. If the project is not eligible, then I will not send it to you. So your decision this evening is are we going to fund all 11 eligible projects? Next slide please. A couple of things to keep in mind moving forward. So we are approved to do neighbor fest next year. Our current resolution for the grant program, which was approved in 2019 by the CAB allows funding for neighbor fest. So what this looks like, since it's suspended this year, that's why we're doing the physical improvement projects in the capacity building projects. But once we get into next year and we resume neighbor fest, the grant program has a two tiered system funds. You can receive in tier one up to $2,500 to do just a neighbor fest event or you can receive up to $5,000 to do one neighbor fest event and a community improvement project at that particular event. The current resolution does not allow for standalone community improvement projects. So, and we, you don't have to discuss these questions now. This is something to keep in mind for the next agenda item. For this agenda item, we're just talking about whether or not you want to fund all 11 projects, but I wanted to pose these questions to have you think about them before we get to the next item. Does the CAB still want to continue using this approach? If no, then how do we fund neighbor fest? So I just wanted to throw that out there. You don't have to answer that right away, think about it and we can have a discussion about it in the next agenda item. Next slide please. So with that, I'll end the presentation. Before I go to questions though, I do have a list of questions here that a member submitted today that I wanted just to briefly go through and hopefully answers questions that you might have. There's still some confusion on the Santa Rosa Tool Library and they're matching funds. So I clarified with them, their matching funds are the $6,720 that they raised in 2020. So they raised that money and they use it this year to purchase tools as well as utilizing the CAB grant, which they've received this in the past. They've received this grant in the past. They also have, they run completely on volunteers. So they contribute approximately 350 hours to the program per year, which is approximately $7,749 in volunteer hours or matching funds. Volunteer hours are considered part of the matching funds. There was a question about the on the move proposal, which is the Dia de los Martos event. They put in their narrative that they were going to be using the funds for a videographer as well as the rental of the event tent chairs and tables. I did clarify with them that the videographer slash photographer is actually the in-kind match that they are putting towards the grant and then a part of it, the other part is their volunteer hours. They are only using the CAB grant funds for the rentals of the event tent tables and chairs. There was also concern around the timing of their event, given that it's next week. So I wanna clarify that as soon as CAB approves, you guys approve the grant, the application for funding, they can get started on their project. So if they wanna get started, as soon as you make that vote and it's approved this evening, then they can start their project this evening. So we've had other projects that have, they've applied and their event is literally few days after the CAB makes their decision, that doesn't matter. They can still go ahead and implement their project as long as the CAB gives their approval for funding. So I wouldn't get too hung up on that. For the one of the food distributions for times like these, which is the Stoneman County Black Forum, there was a question about the permit not being approved. Again, I received from the principal that he has preliminarily approved their permit. They just don't have the finalized permit because the school district's permitting system takes a really long time to process those applications. And so they don't see any reason why it would not go through especially since the principal has approved the use as they did for the last food distribution event they did at that site. And then the final question was around the applications that expanded beyond Santa Rosa residence and exactly how many or an estimate of how many city residents the projects will benefit. So for the Food for Thought Program, they're currently serving 56 Santa Rosa residents with active COVID cases, although that fluctuates because not everyone has active COVID cases and they come in the go. California Human Development for the Day Labor Center project, they currently serve 75 Santa Rosa residents and their families so that equates to approximately 300 people total. And I wasn't sure, Member Steffi, these are your questions. So you mentioned a third project, but I wasn't sure what the third project was. You're right. I think it was another food distribution. I'll have to look at my list. Okay. I was just more concerned. Again, I'm new at this, so I apologize if I asked too many questions, but I want to do our due diligence and since some of the programs weren't just for Santa Rosa residents, I just want to make sure that was okay and then find out what percent of Santa Rosa residents will benefit from it. Although I'm all for helping as many people as we can, whether they live in the city boundary or not. Yeah, so I appreciate you answering all those questions. I think that's super, super helpful. Sure, sure. And the CAB has funded other applications in the past that haven't necessarily been an organization that is in the city limits. So when Latino service providers was, their office was located in Windsor, they still were given a grant because the projects were going to be benefiting Santa Rosa youth and community members. And then we also at one point were funding projects when Roseland was not a part of the city of Santa Rosa. So we do have some flexibility there. All right. The other one was times like these, it was just another food distribution. So there were just three that weren't just for city of Santa Rosa residents. So that's why I asked the question that I appreciate you explaining it. Sure. And thanks for explaining that Santa Rosa tool as well because it wasn't clear at all in their application where they're matching funds from coming from and I'm just kind of a stickler for making sure they follow the rules. So thanks for explaining. Sure. So at this time, thank you Daniel for all of that information and going over the additional questions. Sure. I will open it up for member comments and questions about these Q3 applications, the 11 applications, but a preface that by saying, because I hear member Steffi say it and I felt the same way. I'm asking a lot of questions. That's fine. I wanna say to all of our members because we have only two veteran members here tonight that have been through this process more than once. I've been through it twice, but very long in between. And all of us, every single question is a good question because we don't have that historical knowledge and context for precedent. So really appreciate those questions because I think that better informs us. And as you said, member Steffi, it brings us to our due diligence, especially in respect to the public being looking at this and moving forward as we go into the next quarters for other applications and other applicants. So really appreciate the questions and appreciate the hand out by member Roberts. I'll call on you. Thank you. Now, I was pleased to see a diverse range of projects from a diverse range of organizations. And also seeing Jim Wilkinson's name on application 11 years after. They're still making a difference. So yeah, I had some questions about the matching funds. Some of them of those were answered. Last question remaining for me is for California Human Development, their matching funds are pending with the county. So I was wondering since that application has come in has those funds been approved or what happens if we approve funds and that matching fund, the matching funds are not approved? That is a good question. I didn't have an opportunity to ask them if they have received that, those matching funds. I'm trying to pull up their application right now. Give me one moment. Is that the only thing they listed on that as their matching funds? Oh, here we go right here. Let's see. Oh, yeah, it looks like it is. So I'm pending. So I can follow up with them to see if they have received it. You know, that's up to you. If you guys want to fund that project and then I'll follow up with them and see if that has come through. And if not, if they have a backup plan, if they don't receive that funding, because there's a variety of different ways they can meet those matching funds. They can do volunteer hours. They can utilize another sort, like if California Human Development has funds that they can contribute to the project themselves. But unfortunately, I don't have that answer for you tonight as to whether or not it's still pending. Member Roberts, did you want to follow up on that? I haven't thought on that. I think he's frozen. Oh, there he is. I'm sorry, what was the question? If you wanted to follow up on what Danielle was saying as far as your thoughts around having California Human Development either be able to put in another matching type of funds if they don't get the funds from the county or is that something that you want to have a further discussion with the board on? Yeah, I want to approve the project. I don't know if you want to have a contingency, like approve it if they are able to get matching funds or just approve it and leave it to them. I would prefer approving it regardless, but hopefully they can work on other matching funds. I mean, the other thing that I can tell you too is every single community group has to sign a formal agreement with the city. So it's not, it's basically a contract that outlines what is expected of them and then what we provide back for them. And it is a requirement in that agreement to have the one-to-one match. And so they have to provide that information to us at the end of their project. So one of the caveats of the agreement moving forward now that it's not a reimbursement. So when it was a reimbursement program, we could say, hey, look, you're still not showing your matching contribution. We need to see that before we can reimburse. So what we have in place in the agreement now, now that we're giving the funds ahead of time is if we're not seeing those matching funds and they come back and say, well, we didn't have matching funds, there is a clause in that agreement that says they will have to give that money back. So we don't want that to happen. We wanna work that out with them, but it is part of their agreement. So just to throw that out there. There is a safety mechanism in place for that. Yeah, I would be comfortable approving it with or without contingent's use because that's how the agreement will take care of that. Yeah. Great, thank you, member Roberts. I see the hands up for member Richardson and member, you know, Sencio, member Richardson, I'll call on you. So I'm just looking at their application and under budget it indicated that it says this cap grant request is for half of all expenses listed. All are eligible according to grant guidelines and if awarded this 2,500 will be matched by 2,500 from Sonoma County Community Investment Fund Grant should California Human Development not be awarded grant funding, the Fulton Day Labor Center will submit an internal funding request to cover their project expenses with funds from their general unrestricted account. So it sounds like if we fund their grant then it's gonna be matched and if it's not funded, then they're gonna fund it with their own general funds. So either way it sounds like the way it's worded it's gonna be covered. But I would second, you know, I would follow in the footsteps that we would approve it just based upon the way they have it worded here. Thank you for that clarification. Thank you, Member Richardson and moving to member or vice chair, Innocentia. Yeah, thank you. Just a couple of questions. Sure. I guess just in general, how many proposals were submitted? I know we're only, you know, seeing the completed ones. I just want to get a sense of how many were submitted. 11 total, they were all eligible. Yeah. That's good news. And then the second question is, are any groups taking advantage of the upfront money that we just, that would just approve, I think a few meetings ago? Do you know of any, or I guess are any of these notary reimbursements whether using the money upfront or any other groups? They're all going, moving forward. They're all going to be, we'll cut them a check at the front. So, and we do have a plan for the Dia de los Marcos crew. They're going to have to do their event and then they'll get the check, but we are planning on having them sign tomorrow morning so that we can get that process going through them so that they get their money sooner rather than having to wait a couple of weeks. Okay. Well, thank you. Those are my two questions. Thank you for those questions. And member Ron. Hey. I went through all the applications. They're all, I mean, I love them all. My only question I had and I've used the tool rental so that's a great program. I'm glad that there's, they're going after some money for that. The one with the six street mural, it said that they're going to submit a mock-up later, but then it also talked about it being changed out like a revolving art. Is that something they're going to have to come back to us every time for this revolving art or are we approving the funds for this first project and then they kind of are on their own? That's correct. So this is supposed to be, they're supposed to find a way to sustain their project after this. It's not supposed to be ongoing. I mean, it could technically come back in a few years but that's up to the cap to decide if they want to approve that second iteration of the mural. I don't know if I did send the video which had some of the ideas that she had. So I wasn't sure if members were able to view that. I think somewhere, but that had some of the ideas that they are developing right now for that mural. So hopefully that was helpful. Great, that's all I needed. Thanks. Okay. Great, thank you. And any other questions or comments? Member Barnett, I'm looking at you. No. Alrighty. And I have a couple. Thank you for going over all of the budget numbers. Once again, I think that's really important for us to keep our sights on how much that we're gonna have potentially after this. And talked about ones being eligible. Thank you also for clarifying that you're only sending us the ones that are eligible because back in 2019, we did have one or two that didn't have items on their application and one was deemed non-eligible during the meeting. So I'm glad that that has changed. And they're all fabulous and very inventive applications. Very excited that we have 11 applications. I want to address the budget though because we do have a surplus of funds. And I want somehow, and I don't know if we have to make a motion here in CAB to have that done or if this is more of a staff add on to our website is have it be known to the public that we're not always gonna have this abundance of funds. Right now, we're gonna see all of these being approved potentially, I'm gonna say potentially once again. That's enough right there. But that means that we would have gone over the $35,000 in this year alone. And then we'll have that $29,000 left for next year. And I think that might be confusing. So I just want to make sure that our public facing messaging addresses that in some way so that people understand that the 2020 funds were piggybacked into these funds and we use them in Q3 and Q4. Yeah. Yeah, there doesn't need to be a motion on that. There is language in the application packet that says even if your application is eligible it's dependent upon funding that how much funding the CAB has. And we can definitely add that into the messaging as we start to do outreach for Q4. We did have to address this back in 2018 when we received 49 applications. And the funding request was like 80 something thousand dollars which we didn't have. So it definitely does happen. So yeah. I think our messaging is just slightly different than what you might be thinking. I think that coming from someone who might apply for a grant, I've applied for many grants through the county and on permit processes and things like that. If I know about this Community Improvement Grant Project and I look back on Q2 and Q3 of what we approve and then we have more in Q4. We're combining all of this, right? For, we're not getting any more in Q1 in 2022. Maybe I'm confused. We're going to ask during the budget cycle which starts in January, February, we're going to ask for the council to replenish the CAB funds. That's why we need these grants or the funds that we currently have to be spent down because if they're not spent down then the council is going to be like, well, you have money left still to spend so we're not going to add anymore. So- Do you remember having that conversation at our last improvement grant project? Yep. Approval. We have Q1 coming up in January prior to that replenishment of funds. So this 29,556 will cover not only next quarter but Q1 and Q2. That's a good point. And if I'm the public, I'm not understanding all of our quarters and our funding and this backstory. All I know is you guys have been given out a lot of money and I wanted to get my hands on $2,500. So when we get to Q1 and Q2 it's not just a matter of not having potentially the funds to cover grants but it's also providing the proactive messaging around what we're doing now. Madalya, do you have anything to add? Yeah, I'm hearing you and I'm trying to figure out. I told us you were saying the tricky thing is, how can I say this? You know, we received some direction from our CFO, right? And I want to figure out. Okay, so I want to understand what you're saying than Chair Grace. In terms of, is your concern more aligned with we've granted these folks and these organizations and these projects that we're funding, then next year comes around and we don't have the same amount of funding or we're not funding those same type of projects? I'm just concerned for Q1 and Q2. Like whether we will have the funding or not? And I'm not necessarily concerned about the funds. I'm concerned about how the public is getting the information about what is available. And right now, what I read on our website is that there's $2,500 grants available each quarter and we're, because we've moved to this quarter system and I think that that's part of this big, not a stumbling block, but a challenge in how all of this gets distributed as well as there's a challenge because we have so much money right now that there's a perception that we have so much money that we're able to give away and grant so much money and approve so much money. And I do realize, I apologize everyone that this discussion is happening and we wanna get to approvals. But I think that this is an important thing. I hope that folks can wrap their brains around it, probably be easier in a graph or in a chart. I just want us to get the correct messaging to the public so that they're aware of what is available. We had seven applications last time or I believe in Q2, we had 11 this time. I could see it going up for next time. I wanna approve them all, but I also want to give the right messaging to people that are out there thinking about applying right now or maybe not thinking about applying until after January. Okay, so I think in terms of the messaging that's something we can definitely get ahead of right by adding that to our social media, to our website as to why we've gone to this system, right? And how we ended up with this amount of funding. I think we can definitely do that. The quarter system I think really addresses issues of access because if we're offering these more often, right? I mean, we could maybe the amount is less, but if we're offering them more often then that allows opportunity for community members, especially who are not affiliated with a nonprofit to be able to have more opportunities to apply. So I think that portion of it is really adding to the accessibility of it. So I think with the messaging that is something that we could put information out there of like, why are we doing this and how we ended up with this funding? And I think most people will understand pandemic related that we weren't able to use some of the funding before. Yeah. Great. Thank you for entertaining me on that because maybe it's kind of like dealing with going back in time. I just kind of have a circular conversation with myself around this and how is the public going to deal with seeing all of these approved? And I think that I'll add onto this that word of mouth is a wonderful form of advertisement and marketing. And when you get approved for a grant, you go out and you talk about how you got approved for a grant and this great thing that you're gonna do. So now we have, you know, 20, well, potentially 20 grant receivers that will be talking about this, which is wonderful. Love it. It's phenomenal. But we also don't want to have that the negativity of, you know, later saying, oh, we gave it all away at the beginning and come spring when weather is great, application is gonna be rolling. We don't have the funds. We might get there. We wanna be prepared for that and how our messaging is in order to deal with that starting now instead of waiting until then. I see member Rahm has his hand up. Member Rahm. So what I see and I hear what you say, but I see that we have 29,000 left for quarter four. And if we just, if we approve this whole, all these applications, it's 11 applications and we still have enough for 11 applications at $2,500 for the balance of the year. Every year, every business, we all do, you know, balancing the budget and figuring out what we have to spend for the following year. So we might be a little slow in January, but if the budget, if we get new money in, then that new money just like this, and it's like a hockey stick. We have, it's hard to spend that money at the beginning, but at the end, we're trying to dump it all so we get the funding for the following year. So I see what you're saying. There might be a gap in the first quarter, but I think that just goes along with getting funded and trying to figure out where that's at. That's my take. So I'm gonna jump in here, Danielle, just to clarify. So that $29,000 that we have right now, not only goes through the remainder of this calendar year, so for Q4 is December 31st, it ends, right? Yeah. But it also goes into 2022 for Q1, which is another three months there, and Q2 because we don't get any more funds until June, correct, Enda? Yes and no. So we do get, the funds won't come in until July 1st, so 2022, the new funds, right? However, this is the discussion on the next agenda item is, so if NeighborFest is starting up again next year, those events won't happen until Q3 anyway, so or actually probably end of Q2 beginning of Q3 because we're looking at late spring, early summer, when those events start, so that money wouldn't even be needed until then anyway. So that's the decision the CAB is gonna have to make. Do we wanna keep going with the physical improvement projects or do we wanna do NeighborFest? So the CAB in 2019 approved this change through their strategic plan. The only reason right now that we're doing this, that we're only doing these physical improvement projects is because we can't do NeighborFest. Going into next year, we're starting NeighborFest back up again and the resolution for the CAB grant program says that the CAB grant funds will fund NeighborFest events, either the tier one with just the NeighborFest event or tier two, which is the NeighborFest event with a community project attached to it. So... It's like my mind just exploded, like I finally got it. Okay. Okay. Wow. Yeah. So my worries were not valid if we keep going with the authorized 2019 version of NeighborFest, but that's up for discussion. That's up for discussion. If that's the way that we are going to proceed moving forward, NeighborFest happens late spring, early summer. So then it gets rid of the quarter system completely. So just wanna throw that out there too. If we go back to the old way of doing it, which is going to require a new resolution and we'll have to take that to council where we're doing a variety of different projects, excuse me, then we can talk about, okay, like what is the best schedule? Because it only used to be once a year. And so that would limit the projects and then everyone would have to wait until the following year. So anyway, I don't wanna get too far ahead. I wanna get this item done first. Yeah. Sorry, it felt pressing in the moment to get that clarity. I apologize everyone. So at this time, without any other further questions or comments. Looks like Vice Chair Innocentio has one. Vice Chair Innocentio. I have a quick kind of a question. So one of the projects the RAIS has collected, I sit on their board of directors. And so I'm just wondering if I should maybe not vote on this one and we could pull that one out specifically. Did you have a hand in creating that application? I did not, but I just wanna make sure it's... Yeah, if you were directly involved in the creation of the application, like heavily involved, not just like answering a question here or there, then you need to recuse yourself from voting on that application, but you're fine. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Great, great information for all of us. Member Baldenegro, are you still with us? We may have stepped away for a moment. Do we need Member Baldenegro to have a forum? There he is. Okay. Thank you. So at this time, do we have a motion for all 11 grants to grant applications to be approved? I make a motion that all grants are approved. Second. Member Baldenegro with the motion and Vice-Chair Innocentio with the second. Perfect. Vote for a vote. No vote yet. We gotta go to public comment. I apologize. So at this time, can we have public comments on our meeting improvement grant projects? There are no hands-based public comment. Thank you. And now the vote. Congratulations. Danielle, you wanna hold that? Yes. Remember that Danielle can't see you potentially. Let me see here. Give me one moment while I pull this up. All right. Member Baldenegro. Yes. Okay. Member Burnett. Member Rom. Yep. Member Richardson. Yes. Member Roberts. Yes. Member Square. Yes. Member Steffi. Yes. Vice-Chair Innocentio. Yes. And Chair Graves. Yes. That motion passes with nine votes. Thank you, everyone. We will let the applicants know that their applications were approved. And now moving on to items number 7.2 and 7.3. Vice-Chair Innocentio will be facilitating. All right. Thank you. So for item 7.2 is a discussion item. And I'll just read the description here. The cab will discuss how they would like to proceed with the grant program, including focus areas, maximum grant award amounts and outreach. The cab will also review the current application and discuss what parts of the application are not accessible for community members or not easy to understand. And so, Daniel, do we have a presentation on this or? No, this is just open completely for you guys. I do have one item, though, to throw in there, which I almost forgot about. So let me pull this up. It's not a presentation item. It is a request. So as you may recall in quarter two, the cab approved the Chinatown Memorial Crosswalks projects which is being led by Judy Kennedy in partnership with the Redwood Empire Chinese Association. She received an email from Rob Sprinkle in transportation and public works after they met to do their planning of the logistics for the project. And he informed her that that particular street is set for slurry seal next summer. And so he asked that she hold off on her project until, let's see here, until after the slurry seal has taken place. And so she is asking for a three month extension on that project, which I feel comfortable giving. We don't want that slurry seal to happen after they've done the crosswalk painting because you want time for that to sit and set. So just wanted to put that out to the cab. If everyone's okay with that extension, I will let her know. Yeah, thumbs up from everybody. That would be awesome. Okay, cool. Thank you. Other than that, there's no other presentation to go with this item. It's open to discussion from the board. Okay, so, and Chair Graves, I think I'll need some help here. But I think what I'm saying for what Stack is asking from us is kind of two things under the discussion item. The first being discussing how to proceed with the grant program. And the second kind of a working item of looking at the application, right? So I think it'd be best if we can discuss those two individually. So it doesn't all get mixed up. I think that'll be easiest. So can we do that? And how will we go about starting this discussion? And this is a question for Chair Graves. Thank you. Yeah. And I think inadvertently, I started it earlier. So that discussion and Danielle made it pretty clear from what I heard is moving forward. Our, it's on the table is having a community improvement grant projects that now that neighborhood fest has been approved to start again. And why was it not approved earlier because of COVID? We weren't able to fold those because they're in-person events. Lots of city staff come from different departments. It's about getting your neighborhood and the community together to learn about emergency response information and tactics and networking with all of the departments as well. So it hasn't been held. Now it's been approved to be held in 2022. If we move forward in the way that we used to do the community improvement grants, then we will allow $2,500 to be applied for folding neighborhood fest in and of itself for a group and a neighborhood. Or they can apply for $5,000 and have neighborhood fest plus a community improvement projects. There is no stipulation in that 2019 resolution for just community improvement projects standalone on their own. So this would be starting in 2022, quarter one, quarter two, quarter three, quarter four. As we were just discussing earlier. Or number two under door number two. And the other option would be for us to discuss, how do we integrate a community improvement project only $2,500 grant or maybe a different number? Maybe it's only $1,250. I just threw that out there. But that's the discussion we wanna have is where are we leaning with that? Whether the pros and cons, how do we integrate more community in this? We've seen really robust use of the community improvement project grants. And they're getting people together. So do we wanna say with a neighborhood fest only type of a method that you can add on a community improvement project or do we wanna have community improvement projects standalone on their own and integrate into a neighborhood fest? And Danielle said something that I didn't really click with me. I'm trying to understand it that we would have to then figure out additional funding for neighborhood fest. Maybe we can get more information from Danielle about that. If we go to that model. So we're waiting for that. We'll go right now to the back to vice chair in Asensio to facilitate. I hope that was clear. Yes, so that was very clear. Thank you. Okay, so then I kind of think how best to do this. So we could each, I guess, I think the next thing would be just to discuss kind of if anyone has any comments regarding the two options, but also understand, I think there's not just the two options, right? We can kind of, that's how we're choosing to limit it. Whether we keep it as neighborhood fest in the previous implementation or whether we change it. So I see member Steffi has her hand up. So member Steffi, go ahead. Thank you. So I guess I would just throw out there that and again, I'm somewhat new to the cab, but because of COVID and everyone being inside, it seems like neighbor fest would be really important this coming year. So an option maybe is to go for door number one as chair Graves mentioned and just focus on neighbor fest last year and maybe get more neighborhoods to do that and maybe readdress it again in another year if we want to make changes. Just a thought I'm throwing out there and you can tell me if it doesn't make sense. Oh yeah, I think it makes sense and it's good to get a sense of how everyone's feeling on this subject. Member Roberts or member Steffi, were you done with comments? Yeah, I was done. That's my thought. Thanks. Member Roberts. Chair Graves mentioned Danielle might have, might get more information about getting additional funding for neighbor fest if we spend on the grant. Were you, did you have information now or were you gonna get information for your meeting that wasn't clear on because I would like more information about how that would be possible. Sure. So what I can tell you now is we funded the pilot program through a community, several community foundation grants and then when the cab was doing their strategic planning process in 2018, they decided to add neighbor fest to the strategic plan as one of their strategies for community building and the decision was made to change the grant program to focus the, to provide funding specifically for the neighbor fest program. So if the cab were to change that, then it would require us as staff to go to council a ask if we can get some additional funds to and the funding is specifically for the neighborhood groups that are doing neighbor fest. So they get $2,500. They plan the event, the block party, they plan it 100% themselves. They implement it. We just come in, we do a mapping activity for disaster preparedness number one with the neighborhood. We also bring along Red Cross to do individual and family disaster preparedness and we bring our marketing and communications team to sign people up for SOCO alerts and talk about different emergency alerts and notification systems. We could potentially expand upon that. We're kind of talking about that as a team as to, you know, it's focused on disaster preparedness but we could always expand and make it, you know, a, what I like to call a mobile city hall where we invite out other city departments. So we don't just do disaster preparedness but we make available other city services in these neighborhoods that are having their, their neighbor fest event. So anyway, those funds, the $2,500 goes to the neighborhood group so that they can plan and implement this event. So if we, if the cab were to change that and not utilize the community improvement grant funds to do that, then we would have, we would have to either ask council for those funds so that we could provide those funds directly to neighborhood groups or, and if the council says no, which is very likely because now I have a lot of extra funds to give, then we would have to seek outside funding sources and see if there were grants that we could apply for, for that. Hopefully that made sense. All right, member Ron, I believe your hand was up next. So, and I don't know how we got to where we're at today but if we didn't, I mean, I don't want to say it'd be like the elephant in the room but what if neighborhood theft doesn't happen next year? If we make a decision and we say it's all gonna go to neighborhood theft and COVID and the city says no, no, no. So I mean, it almost feels like we're still in this gray area where we need to have, be flexible enough and it'd be written to where we can make those decisions whether it's gonna be a community project or neighborhood theft, right? So how do we, I mean, maybe the action is no action on that because right now it seems, I mean, I don't know what how it was before but it seems like right now there is no neighborhood theft. If there is neighborhood theft, they have a choice of either neighbor theft or community improvement projects. Yeah, so the choice is neighbor theft or a neighbor theft with a community improvement project. But right now we have, I'm sorry. Right now we have no neighbor theft so it is only a community improvement. Correct, that's correct. And we came to that decision after like absolutely no movement was made last year on any of the neighbor theft events or the ones that had the community improvement projects. We just decided, you know what? Let's just do these community improvement projects. They're small groups of people, they're safe. We're looking like we can do this next year. So we're starting on the backend because we have a lot of planning to do on the backend to get ready. So we are preparing for that. But you know, you're right. There is a possibility that COVID could, another variant could happen and we might be in the same predicament that we're in now but we have been given the green light currently to do in-person community events. So that's it right now. Yeah. Stephanie, I see that your hand is up again. Sorry, my hand is down. That was a technical issue. So, all right. So is there any more discussion or questions from other members of CAV? I think this is a pretty, oh, Chair Gray as I see your hand is up. Thank you. I do enjoy the flexibility of, oh, I see her. I love it. I do enjoy the flexibility of having the our community groups being able to apply for a community improvement project grant. Neighborhood Fest, I don't recall all the numbers but I would say that maybe it didn't have as much interest and it's really hard for a neighborhood to put on that event. I think they're amazing when they do put them on and it is really beneficial. Granted, I was not here during that process coming to the point of having Neighborhood Fest. So maybe I'm not understanding how big it could get but I do think that the project grants are more accessible to folks because you're not putting on an event per se and all the different things that you're having to coordinate to get all of your neighbors out. Although I would like to see larger groups of neighbors when it is in a neighborhood and a project happen, come out to them and I hope that that does happen and we can foster that. So I would mean toward a creative hybrid version to where the Community Improvement Project grants are available on their own but not necessarily canceling out Neighborhood Fest. I think that it's a lot to ask groups to do Neighborhood Fest and a Community Improvement Project in order like it's like I got to have dinner to have dessert. Sometimes they might want to have dessert. I'm just saying that those projects are a little bit more creative not as structured for the mobile city hall like you were mentioning that is a possibility or disaster preparedness. So they get to have more input and more creativity to that. That's me. I'll get your grace for those comments. Member Barnett, I see your hand. When? Yeah. So Danielle, I just want to have some confirmation here that the financial or the fiscal ask that we're going to put forward for Neighborhood Fest 2022 is going to be the standard 35,000. So that is either, it's a variation of however many Neighbor Fest and then if they do a Neighborhood, Neighbor Fest plus but the differences in the 2022 cycle we will approve grants, we'll get the funding in the form of a check in the front end of their grant. Correct. Okay. So in some regards, we are getting the hybrid because if somebody wants to do a project it's tacked into a Neighbor Fest they would be getting the $5,000 at the front end. They're not going to have to do the reimbursable portion they had to do the reimbursement but they're going to get the money on the front end and then submit the receipts afterwards. Correct. Because one of the things about Neighbor Fest that I didn't realize until after the fact that made it problematic was the reimbursement process the neighbors had to spend the money on their own submit receipts and then the city would cut them a check which was incredibly disinvented was completely slighted to neighborhoods that had a certain degree of wealth, frankly and poor neighborhoods, it was an absolute barrier. So now that we've changed protocol and procedure I'm inclined to keeping it the way it is including the neighborhood with that model because I think that we should go a year with the funding on the front end to see if that changes who applies to see if that changes on a need assessment because I feel like certain neighborhoods ones that kind of mine are like Apple Valley, South Park in and around behind the playgrounds and definitely in and around Rosalind. I feel like there's an opportunity now knowing that the funding is in the front end of the grant so that if it is approved that they're not having to spend the money and get reimbursed that they're able to actually get a check and have that neighborhood on the front end. So I think I'm inclined to keeping it in the Neighbor Fest model with the Neighbor Fest plus caveat in there. My other concern, Danielle, though, is are we still under the pretext that we have to zero out our budget to be eligible for funding in the next fiscal cycle? My God. Yeah, that was the direction from our Chief Financial Officer but not sure to be completely upfront not sure if that will change since that Chief Financial Officer is no longer with the city. So maybe that's something, I mean, I'm not honestly, I'm not sure how that would roll out until we get out of having an interim person but that's kind of the direction that we were given. Okay. Thank you. And maybe that's something that we, I think should, I don't know if that would be appropriate to discuss with Mayor Rogers, that is a concern in terms of continuing this. How do we, we're abiding by sort of that advice from someone at our top leadership and that person is no longer with the city. How do then we move forward so that there isn't a disruption? Chris, your hand is up. Yeah, Macaulay, I'm not quite sure. I can't recall if you were here when we had that discussion with Mayor Rogers here at a meeting. So he is aware of what that directive was before and he questioned it. And he was willing to have that conversation. I have not had any further conversation with him about that particular variable in all of this and did not know that the CFO was no longer with the city that had made that directive. So that might be, I'm more than willing to bring that back up to his attention that that's still something that's lingering in our purview. And we need a resolution a little bit on that so that we can go forward more confident. Okay, not seeing any more hands up and sounds like we're pretty split right now whether to keep it as is or to hold some kind of hybrid. For me personally, I love that we have been seeing so many improvement projects this last year. I've seen so many projects done in Southwest Santa Rosa and South Park and L.C. Allen that I don't think would have happened had we been limited to neighbor fest. So I'm really liking the variety of projects we're seeing the geographical diversity that we're seeing. I mean, just how many applicants there are. I love that we have 11 projects this quarter, right? And I hope to continue that. And if we do not have enough to keep funding them I think having too many projects to improve is a better problem than not having any projects to even look at, right? I really like to see the neighbors I live in that I have friends living in see murals come up, see gardens come up. I think it's a fantastic thing that we've been doing but I don't really have a clear direction from our friends aboard because it sounds like we're pretty split here. So member Baldenegro, member Square, member Richardson is there any comments and how you're seeing this or questions that you may have? Well, I actually like the idea of having the community improvement grants and the neighborhood fest. So I like that the grant is intended to have a neighborhood fest. And if a group, I don't think that it would be that much extra to do the neighborhood fest if they wanted to get a community improvement grant. However, I also do feel like just because we say it's safe to gather in person and the COVID variant is decreasing as someone who's a little skeptical of that I could see how like personally I've been vaccinated and I don't wanna go around other people. I just don't think it's safe. So I like being able to have the diversity and the option of having groups be able to do community improvement projects. And I do think that it does remove the barrier to having the neighborhood fest but it sounds like if we go that option we have to go back to a council for a vote on that. So that's just my take. Thank you. So with, oh, Penny, here, hands up. Well, this is my first time going through the grant process and I don't know what a neighborhood fest would look like but I am in agreement that with the variant and kind of the uncertainty of COVID and I would lean towards the grants over a fest at this time until, you know, this is behind us but I'm also excited about the number of projects and the variety and it's great to see and I'm looking forward to seeing the completion and going around and looking at some of the projects to take pictures and promote. So those are my thoughts. Thank you, Member Alinegro. All right, so seeing all the comments or questions and what are you looking to provide a motion here? What's the next step here? Yeah, the majority of the board wants to move forward with making the physical improvement projects available again then I need a vote from the board just to put that on record and then from there, I will take a resolution back to council that they will then improve just to add that piece in there. So I need to know, okay, are we just doing physical improvement projects or the variety of different projects or is it, are we adding that into also neighbor fest? So I need that distinction so I know what to put in the resolution. I just, what I don't want to have happen is we could suspend neighbor fest again for next year if there's a majority of the board that doesn't feel comfortable implementing it. What I don't want to get into is somebody from the community coming back saying, well, you have this resolution though that says that this is how you're gonna be using your funds. I don't think that'll happen, but you never know. So I want to put that, I wanna put it on paper and put it in the resolution how we're going to be spending our funds. Magali? Again, this is also sort of my first endeavor with this and I've not seen what neighbor fest looks like but I'm wondering if there could be some sort of like if the group decides to go with a neighbor fest if there could be a contingency, right? Like based on what, where we are in terms of like health orders and where we are with COVID. I mean, because I'd hate to like not move forward with something, but I don't know if that makes sense. Yeah. Because I do hear the concern about, you know what will happen in terms of like where we are with COVID. But I don't know if I heard a clear consensus though and correct me if I'm wrong. Right, no, I don't think there was. I think it's kind of split. I also think it's like a bigger question too of the cab, right? Most of you weren't part of the strategic planning process. Neighbor fest came out of the 2017 wildfires. It was a direct response to that. But, you know, everything has changed so much since then doesn't make sense that we continue to do neighbor fest. You know, does the cab continue to focus on that? If not, then we have to internally ask ourselves, does it make sense for the city to continue doing neighbor fest A without the funding and B without the support? Neighbor fest honestly can't happen without, I mean, it could happen without the cab, but it really, really would be very difficult to do. It works so much better when you have a team behind you to be able to go out and engage with the neighbors at these events. So, yeah, I 100% agree. We don't know what that's gonna look like next year. So, it's up to you guys. Okay, thank you. Member Rodgers, see your hands up. And then Chair Graves. Thank you. Yeah, I thought that I explicitly gave my input. Yeah, so I just wanted to say that even understanding the risks of COVID, I think it's more important than ever to have people have been indoors for a year and a half and I think it's time for people to safely gather in their communities. So, I don't wanna drop that aspect of this program. Thank you, Member Roberts. Chair Graves. You're muted. Yeah, you're muted. Sorry about that. I put down my hand, but it didn't unmute. I feel the hesitancy and I think that giving kind of what I was saying earlier about a clear perception to the public, I would love for us to go forward with something that's really clear and really simple. You know, that we continue on with the branch improvement projects and that we allow maybe for ourselves because as Danielle said, the neighborhood fest doesn't typically happen until the summer, which is Q3 in 2022. Maybe we'll have a clearer picture at that time and be able to make a different or an add-on decision at that time. Also, I was thinking as everyone was talking about the importance of neighbors to get together, we had kicked around the idea at one point of the cab with the community engagement team that actually pulled a city-wide type of a neighborhood fest. I think being that we're so far removed from 2017 and thankfully that we're removed this October with this wonderful rainfall, that we might kick it off in Q3 during the summer ourselves and hold something that is city-wide at the family center or Steel Lane or one of our other community centers and make it open to all of the public. And that way they get an understanding of what neighborhood fest is so that they can apply for these grant funds in a future date for the next year, just a thought. So because we didn't have that many neighborhood tests that I remember and there were some settling blocks around it that Member Barnett brought up as far as the financial equity. So we could make a really good promotion of it ourselves, potentially. We'd just like to put out there, that's a great idea, but where's the money gonna come from for that? There's always big sales. We'll apply to the county for their community grants that they have. So I mean, we'd have to go to the council for something like that, but I think reestablishing neighborhood fest, we're having a hard time conceptualizing it, right? So my hesitancy is not only around COVID, but also tying ourselves to something like neighborhood fest and not having clarity. So I am definitely leaning more for the community improvement private grants going into next year and following up with it later as well. I'm gonna jump in really quick. I know that Member Barnett has her hand up. I just wanna put out there that neighborhood fest takes on our end. It's a substantial lift and there's a lot of planning on the back end. So we actually need to start planning for this now, which is why I was hoping the cab could come up with a definitive answer. Are we gonna do neighborhood fest next year or not? So maybe we can answer that question this evening. Yeah, we'll definitely answer. Thank you. At some point. I see Member Barnett's hands up and then I think we'll proceed with something. Yeah. Member Barnett. Yeah, I was just having a flashback to 2018-2019 neighborhood fest and it just dawned on me, Danielle, of so when we've done these in the past, both the pilot and the first year and the neighborhoods that participated, it just dawned on me. We had centers of police department, we had centers of fire department. We had the Red Cross and I don't think members of the board realized. So we did seven neighborhood fest, eight neighborhood fest and so Danielle had to coordinate with the fire department and the police department to bring out staff and the fire trucks and the emergency response equipment. And I think we also had waste management possibly. Like there was a bunch of agencies involved. I'm just thinking back on this and realizing how much multi-department bandwidth was in that and at the time that we approved all of this, we didn't check with the fire or the police department on the front end to see if they had the bandwidth because it was under emergency preparedness. And so I'm just having that flashback moment and thinking to myself like, uh-oh, we like, so there's another question that I'm realizing that we didn't ever formally answer because then the pandemic happened and everything shut down. And that is, do centers of fire, do centers of police do all of these multi-department agencies? And part, I think like Parks and Rec was a lot. I guess what I'm saying is do those additional departments that got brought into neighborhood fest, right? Because we brought in all these city services to the festival and to the event itself. Do they have the bandwidth? And the idea being that if we do seven or eight of these neighbor fest, you know, it's not just the question of what the grant program is funding for. No, no, there's a whole other budget that goes on because all those departments have staffing requirements and they, you know what I'm saying? So that was my thing. It's like, have we checked in with any of them? Have they even had the bandwidth for this? Because that to me is mission critical because when the, so for the camp to understand this, neighbor fest came from San Francisco where they have a neighborhood empowerment network and it has to do specifically around the goal of social cohesion for disaster response. That neighborhoods that have those bonds and connections that we refer to as social cohesion do better in terms of disaster response. After the 2017, 2018, 2019 fires that impacted the entire city on a whole scale magnitude, there was this idea of we want a program and a grant that gets neighbors talking to each other, building resources with each other, mapping their neighborhoods in the event of another major disaster, fire, flood, earthquake, evacuation under the pretense that we want folks to know where the vulnerable populations are in their neighborhood. So if you have to evacuate and there's someone in your neighborhood who's in a wheelchair or is legally blind and cannot get in their car that you know that person needs you and that you step out of your comfort zone and you knock on their door and you help get them out. That was why neighbor fest got the strategic funding that it got because it was literally the idea of we just went through a fire and people died because folks didn't necessarily know that there was a need and that was why it had such a high emphasis. And but we brought in all these other city departments and we did this and I'm just curious to know has there been any conversation with it because I don't think it's just a question of the cab and the funding piece. It is can centers of fire, can centers of police can these other departments that came on board? Do they have the bandwidth to do upwards of eight events throughout June, July and August? That's the question. I'm just realizing the back of my hand. Wait a minute. Can they even do that with us and partner with us? Cause you're right on the logistic side. It's not just the cab budget side. Yeah. So I did speak with them earlier this year and they were, you know, we talked about, hey, this probably won't come back this year. We'll revisit it next year. Yeah, that's totally fine. All that they've asked us to do is start the planning process early, which is why we need to start it now so that we can start to have these initial conversations of let's look at like what we can absolutely do not work. So that way we can get our schedule together to provide those dates in the application. So I need to start these conversations now with them which is why it's so important. I think for the cab decide if they're gonna do this or not. And yeah, I mean, we can have a neighbor fest. So neighbor fest doesn't have to be, also just won't throw this out there, does not have to be specifically focused on disaster preparedness either. Neighbor fest can be, can be other, can be focused on other things. For example, the general plan update, right? It could be also focused on what I mentioned earlier, mobile city hall bringing services to the neighborhoods. So that doesn't necessarily have, we don't necessarily have to have police in fire unless that neighborhood specifically asked for it. We just started with disaster preparedness because that made the most sense at the time. Magali, did you wanna throw something in there? Yeah, I just wanted to ask, so are we saying that neighbor fest would start in May because I just want to, I know this year we started fires, or we, I don't wanna, we did some sort of, it was like May 17th, it was like the start of fire season for us. So that's kind of the other thing to consider. And also, gosh, I'm kind of blanking on my other thought, but we had sort of had this informal conversation with potentially hosting something at the training facility for the fire department. So if we only get one shot, right? Because of what member Barnett mentioned, if we only get the one shot, this is something that we may be able to do the one time. And we could also bring what you're saying, Danielle is sort of pretty much like a city open house element, right? So not just fire preparedness, but did you know about this water department thing or this other thing? So just wanted to kind of bring that up. Thank you. So I have just one final question I think here for Danielle. So can we, if we wanna take it back or change the resolution, we'll be able to say one neighbor fest event up to 2,500 or one community improvement grant and then up to 2,500. And then finally, the neighbor fest plus community improvement grant for a total of 5,000. Is that, can we, would we be able to do that? Yes. So that would be kind of a compromise between, because the cab is pretty split. I think that's where we should move as a board. Did I see a handout member Roberts or anybody? I think I saw a handout. Oh, oh, Chair Graves. Go ahead. And then I think this will be the end of discussion because we do need to move ahead. I just wanted to alert you that member Ram had to excuse himself. I saw that. So I, for Oran, I don't know where we're at. We're fine. We're okay. We have eight right now. So if anyone else has to leave, then we have to call the meeting. That really like to get to the next item. So would anybody like to make a motion then to do this or if not, I'll call the motion for a compromise seeing, no, but okay fine then. I like to motion that we include standalone community improvement projects as an option for a $2,500 grant. That's soul change. And would anybody like to second that? Do I get a second? I'll second the motion. Thank you. Okay. All right. And vote. Member Bolton may grow. Yes. Yeah. Member Burnett. Yes. Yes. Member Rahmet, I'll leave. Member Richardson. Yes, sorry. I was having technical difficulties. It's okay. Member Roberts. Yes. Member Square. Yes. Member Steffi. Yes. And Vice Chair Anno-Sentio. Yes. And Chair Grapes. Yes. That motion passes with eight yeses. Yes. Okay. Ooh. Thank you. All right. So it's part of seven too. We also have a review of the current application and discussing what parts are not accessible for community members or not easy to understand. And yeah, I heard you mentioned that you wanted to discuss this item as well. No, I want to get to the next item before we adjourn the item 7.3. So if I'm fine with tabling this, if, yeah. Would anybody like to make a motion to table this item to our next meeting? Specifically the reviewing the application. I'll make the motion to table that item for now. I'll second. And can I get a thumbs up from everyone on that? We won't do the, awesome. Thank you. One more thing though, before you go on to the next item, you have to call for public comment. Oh, so I'd like to open it up for any public comments. There are no hands raised for public comment. All right. So seeing none, I believe we can proceed with item 7.3 and that is future cab meeting discussions. So opening it up for discussion. Danielle, you had mentioned we are not having a December meeting, correct? We are scheduled to have a December meeting. Normally how this works is cab gets November and December off. However, because of the lack of quorum issues that we've had all year, we haven't met the city charter requirements for meetings. So we need to hold a meeting for November and December. And so we've tentatively identified, so the reason why we're changing the meeting dates is because the November meeting falls the day before Thanksgiving and the December date falls like a day or two before Christmas. So we need to change those dates. We're proposing Wednesday, November 17th and Wednesday, December 15th. We can definitely look at other dates if that doesn't work for the majority of the board. But I'm hoping that does work for the majority of the board. Because it is available. We also have to consider when our facilities are available so that we can stream, because we have to stream the meeting live. And so we have to be able to do that. We have to make sure that the facilities are available to do that for us. So if I could see a raise of hands, virtual hands, Wednesday, November 17th works for folks. Six, I don't know. Okay. Entirely sure I'm a planner, but I don't have my calendar in front of me and I'm trying to go on vacation. So I know the week before works well. I think I can make it work. I can make it work. And I think the only one I didn't see, I remember square, does that work for you? Yes, perfect. So November 17th, we will go with that. And then for December 15th, which is a Wednesday, how does that work for folks? Can I see a show of hands or virtual hands? Looks like it works for most people. Member Steffi, that's a no. Okay. I will check with our other members to make sure, but it looks like that will work for the majority of the board. Thank you. All right. So do we need to open that up for public comment as well? Before we get to public comment, the one other item that we wanted to put out there and we don't have to discuss it at this meeting, maybe we can set it aside for next month is looking at how we want to move forward holding these meetings. So there is the option to hold these meetings in person starting in the new year. So this wouldn't happen until our January meeting. We could potentially do a hybrid as long as the proper facilities are available that will allow us to do that, or we can continue holding them virtually. Staff, including myself, I'm a little concerned about the quorum issues that we've been having. And I'm not a hundred percent sure if it's related to meeting over Zoom. I know everyone's kind of zoomed out. So we wanted to see if meeting in person might help with that. But I know some folks aren't comfortable at this point with attending meetings in person. So that's why we wanted to have this discussion with you this evening. Member Barnett, I see that your hand is up. I'm just trying to figure out where would we be meeting because your office is moved. So would we be going back to Finley, to the Manzanita room? No, more than likely we would hold these meetings at the utility fields office, the UFO, which is located across the street from Finley on Stony Point Road. I believe Member Barnett, we had a meeting there one time when Daniel Homesy from San Francisco came to talk about Neighbor Fest. It's a large enough space. There's actually three small conference rooms that open up into a gigantic conference room. So there would be plenty of space for us to space out. Member Roberts, do you see your hand's up? Yes, there you are muted. There you go. So I just wanted to say that I would like to go back to in-person and in my experience, hybrid is messy and unpleasant. And yeah, the UFO has a lot of space. So I know some people are still concerned that my preference is to move to in-person. All right. So I'm not saying too much activity here. Any other, would it be okay if we move this item to next meeting? Sure, we can do that. Hopefully. One time to think about it. Yeah, yeah. Although I am of the preference that we need in-person again, because I'm tired of seeing your faces in little squares. I want to see you guys in real life, but... I just wonder if the meeting in person would be good, but I just wonder if someone has a compromised immune system and then we're having members of the public in and having someone in my household who's older and a more vulnerable health situation. I wonder how that works. And I know that Chair Graves indicated, I believe that she is immunocompromised too. And so I want to be sensitive to that. I love seeing people in-person. I'm such a people person, but I also think that health and safety is important too. So I'm wondering, I think pushing off the conversation would be good. And then maybe during the course of our next meeting, we can figure out what the city's guidelines are, the county's guidelines are for meeting in-person and how many people in public and all of those fun things and what we can and cannot ask people. And then have maybe email dialogue back and forth so that we know if we meet in public, these are the requirements that we have to adhere to. Just a thought. Danielle, sorry not to interrupt, but I just forwarded you an email that in terms of the city is going to still remain like masked indoors as well. So I know there's been that the information out that the county may be changing their masking order. But just so you all understand, like the city will continue to have employees and our guests in indoor spaces masked. Thank you. Okay, so yeah. How do we move this discussion to our next meeting? Even though we have some good feedback already. Yeah, we could just table it until next meeting. Okay. Perfect. So that being said, I think that moves us to our final, almost final item, which is item eight, and I will hand it back to Chair Graves. Great. Thank you. Thanks for that foresight to table as the evening is a little long here. Our item number eight is our future agenda items. And just going over these quickly, Santa Rosa General Plan update presentation will be tentatively in November on that November date that we just agreed upon November 17th. The Sonoma County homeless count presentation tentatively for the December date of December 15th. Chair Graves, that is confirmed. Okay, that is confirmed. And Office of Community Engagement Strategic Plan looking forward to 2022 and January, the Santa Rosa Equity Officer presentation tentatively for either February or March of 2022 and the recreation and parks presentation tentatively for either February or March, piggybacking off of that. Are there any other future agenda items that we should be aware of to try to include? Member Roberts. I was going to ask about the status of the Human Rights Commission report. I know we are waiting for city council to address first, I don't think they have. I want to see if there is update on that. Natalie. I'm sorry, I missed that I have my little person next to me. Could you please repeat that? He was wondering about the Human Rights Commission report. It did go to council, actually. It went to council on May 4th. So there was a very significant discussion around that at the May 4th and the May 5th special study session. I don't know if you have anything else you wanted to add to that, Magali? Yeah, I would definitely just note that we did have some pretty robust discussions where Jerry III and Demetri Smith both presented, I believe, on May 4th to council. So I would definitely recommend to check out the video for that, the recording for that. So the council did sort of review that collectively as with a special council meeting. But was there something specific, Member Roberts, that you would like to add to that? I thought Cab was going to review and discuss the report in its mind beads after council did in May 5th. I apparently didn't, they realized council had already discussed or maybe forgot, but I thought Cab was going to address it after council did it. I don't know if there was any action we would take but I thought that Cab was going to discuss it. Originally, the Human Rights Commission report when effort came out, that was brought up during a cab meeting for us to discuss it. And at that time, we were directed to wait until the council had brought it up and discussed it took nearly a year for that to happen. And then, so their member Roberts is completely correct that that was always within the sites to have a discussion after the council meeting or that was where the communication live was you need to wait until the council has this, discusses it, takes action on it or not. And then the cab could review it. So it's a, I understand your question member Roberts. I'm sorry, I lost sight of that as well. I guess I'm wondering then it's available to review in the recording from the city council meeting and the reports online. So you could review it on your own time, but if we put it on an agenda, what would be the purpose for cab? Like how, I guess, like what's the end goal for cab in all of this? Because the cabs, you're an advisory body, you're not a decision-making body. And so I want to be really careful about how, just in general, like I want cab members to know that like you could make a recommendation to council on something, but really you don't have the authority to make big decisions. That's, so I'm just kind of trying to figure out, like, okay, if we do put this on the agenda, what's the goal? So yeah, I guess I will have to watch the video to know if there's any reason for cab to discuss it. I guess I'll loop about that meeting. So my understanding was a lot of like dozens of community members joined our cab meeting to request that we review it and discuss it and make recommendations to the council without knowing what if council made changes or recommendations, then I don't have any suggestions. So yeah, knowing that council already discussed it, I wouldn't suggest it'd be on the next cab agenda until I listen to it and figure out what happened. Yeah, and just Magali, can you clarify a lot of that work or some of that work is being discussed at the public safety subcommittee level, correct? That is correct. So I think something perhaps, if it would be helpful to cab that we could bring forward some of the recommendations that were made, because really everything took place over May 4th and May 5th. So they're pretty extensive, long discussions and then the termination took place on May 5th. So if that's helpful, we can perhaps bring forward some of those recommendations and definitely like Danielle mentioned, a lot of those items have moved over to the public safety subcommittee. Would that be helpful if we bring forward what the outcomes were out of that study session or do members wanna go look at the recording themselves? I personally could go either way. I do wanna find out what is happening whether it's been a cab meeting or on my own. So I'll leave it to the rest of the board or to the side, whether it's officially on the agenda. And I also wanna remind everyone, tune into that November 16th meeting where we go present the resolution to declare racism as it's titled racism as a public health and human rights crisis, which is what council directed us to bring back. So there might be further discussion from the council on next steps because there are recommendations in that resolution that we provided. So they might have additional thoughts around what they would like staff to do as far as next steps. Thank you for all of that. I can see that even tying into neighborhood fest and social and racial justice and how do we bring that to our neighborhoods and address? So I'm excited. It doesn't look like there's any other items for future agendas at this time. Is there any public comment? There are no hands raised for public comment. Thank you. And item number nine, do we have a motion to adjourn? Anyone? Member Roberts, thank you. And I'm sure Member Steffi, I can see you seconding it already. Absolutely, it could read my mind. I promise. Thank you everybody for a great meeting and for approving all of those grants. We'll see you next on November 17th. Let's not keep Danielle in the dark. Let's make sure that we reach out to her prior to November 17th and tell her that we're coming and that we are part of her quorum. So good night, everybody. Stay safe out there. Bye, thank you.