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Ron Paul OWNS Santorum Bachmann with Biblical argument of a Just War

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Published on Dec 16, 2011

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gogeta0064
i love Ron Paul, and would of voted for him in 2012, but he is completely wrong on the war issue when it comes to Christianity... i do not stand with either Obama or Bush on pre-emptive war, but Ron Paul is wrong on his Biblical history. the early church did not struggle with the issue of war... the early church before Augustine held that war should be avoided alltogether, that Christians should not join the army (because their loyalty was to Christ, not the Roman army or the Caesar), and that Christian soldier converts were to finish out their term, and then leave the army. Augustine polluted Christianity with Gnosticism, and created heresy. not only did Augustine teach mainstream Catholicism (purgatory, indulgences, the ultimate authority of the Roman church), he also taught the basic concepts of Calvinism... he also taught that sex even inside of marriage was a sin, because to him, the flesh was inherently sinful. and since sex was of the flesh, it had to be a sin. the apostles and the students of the apostles took what Jesus said literally when He said in Matthew 5 "blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God"... war should be avoided at all costs, for it is God and God alone who has the authority to take vengeance upon those who commit wickedness, not us. "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord"
gogeta0064
+MasterLibertarian i never said God wouldn't judge the wicked... of course He will. what I'm saying is that in the New Testament, Jesus never taught a just cause for murder or war. He always told us "turn the other cheek" (Matthew 5:39), "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword" (Matthew 26:52), and "blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God" (Matthew 5:7)... then, the apostles said "vengeance is mine, i will repay, says the Lord", in Romans 12:19 and in Deuteronomy 32:35. it's very important for those who are Christians to understand the history of Christianity. today's Christianity is so far from Christ, it has become a mockery. Jesus and the Apostles never said that murder was ever justifiable, because God alone has the authority to take a person's life. the early church understood this, and encouraged their followers to not enlist in the army. now as a Christian, i do have the authority to rebuke Ron Paul, and and i believe i have in a loving manner. Ron Paul is a great man, but he is wrong about war. I dont support war either, but i do think as a nation we should live as such according to Romans 12:18 "If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men." we're not doing this as a nation... and we need to. pre-emptive war is not the answer. non-intervention is.
Cyberman King
You're partly right, but that was Christianity's history, not the Bible's. Only God will judge the wicked. It is not man's authority.
Fergus Maclaren
More uk troops committed suicide than have died in the whole afghan conflict 
hochha
Sad truth, the public wants war. It satisfies a primal instinct, especially for a powerful Nation. republican/democrat two sides of the same coin, same voters, same agenda, unfortunate.
MrRazscal
amazing 
furiousmat
The american society couldn't be further from the teachings of Jesus. You saying that this country was blessed by god just shows how deluded and self centered american conservatives are. In all of the western world America is pretty much the one country that is the farthest from what the Bible teaches and yet it is the one that keeps talking about God the most. I don't think the country that generates the most hypersexualisation, wealth inequalities and militarism should be said to be christian
jbferrer3
Trying to make America the kingdom of God on earth?The kingdom will come when Jesus comes back.
jbferrer3
I understand that God has blessed this country and do believe that he used this country in a special way throughout history,but we still have to take into consideration that Jesus said ,"my kingdom is NOT OF THIS WORLD,". Us christians are getting in too heavy with politics and neglecting the greater commission of God and thats to go and make disciples.If we did that we wouldnt have to worry about the direction this country is taking.I mean what exactly are these "christian politicians" doing? 
TheRobExpo
Ha I feel for the person who has to make an argument against what Dr. Paul just said.
kathy160
the republican base is against ron paul.. ron paul needs to change back to independant before he gets so old and dies. kkk, arian unions, bauchman,palin, beck, coulter, limbaugh, bush, romney, christian pastors, ryan have already discredited the republican party. obama 2012
MA A
Where is the complete video? I really want to see the first answer to that, because i can't imagine any
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