 All right, how did I get into kitty? When I was a university student, I studied computer science and at some point I was fed up with my Windows installation and I was looking for alternatives. So everyone was talking about this new thing called Ubuntu thing, which supposedly was amazing. So instead of that, I tried it for an hour and was, yeah, okay, but I was looking around more and there was this Ubuntu thing which I installed and stuck with because I used conversation, the IC client, copied the internet messaging line, K address book, yes, yes, for real, K mail and the file browser, Conqueror back then, and all of them could make use of the address data in the K address book and I was amazed. That did work indeed. So then I was hooked because I really liked the seamless integration between all these applications. And then at some point, a friend of mine who was contributing to Kitty's music player, Amarok, said that since I'm using Kitty's software now, I should do something for Kitty. And that they were going to go to Linux talk in two weeks and that I should come and help run the Amarok booth. And I did that and I had no clue what I was doing. But the nice thing was that people asked the same seven, eight questions over and over again. I had that figured out pretty quickly. And across the hallway, there was the Kitty eBlood with people like Aide and Zebas and Danymo and they were very nice. And since then I'm here. And being the Kitty eB precedent currently, what do you expect the next Academy to be? There are only very few right answers to this question. I think there are many very right answers to this question, but some of them are more right than others. Personally, I wouldn't mind a nice sandy beach with palm trees, but I don't think we have that many of them in Europe. So got to work on that. I started on Kitty that was in 98. So that was like 18 years ago or something. And I just needed a message box for my talk. So a friend of mine had actually shown me one. And so that was quite good. So I decided to use that just to be able to show a message box for my talk. And then I started to do some some more work on Kitty. And then suddenly Torben had to go and write an office suite. So I took over the farm manager. And that was a long, long time ago. So I've been an open source user for more years than I care to admit because it shows my age. Anyway, I for years actually tried to become a contributor to several projects. And Kitty was the first one that actually responded back. Yes, do this. It was Laurent Montel with documentation. And I did tons and tons of documentation for K-Mail. And then I moved on to Kbuntu. And then Jonathan taught me how to package. And that was the end of that. No more documentation. And then I signed up for, I talked to Ben Cooksey about doing an SLK project. And that's how I got the CI system, which has, yeah, been exciting, really exciting. And yeah, I don't see myself going anywhere. So, so I was bored. And so I ordered, what was it, Redhead Six or whatever on Amazon. And I installed it. And it was terrible. And then, well, it was. And then I installed KDE, which was called, it's awful back then, weird. And then you got enlightened. And then I got enlightened. No, I really hated it. I really hated it. And then I installed SUSE. And it was better. And then I discovered Amarok. And for some reason that I don't recall, I went to a conference with the Amarok people and started the weird tradition of howling in the hallways, because Amarok's level is a wolf. So obviously he would be howling. And just the fact that one would be willing to do that in public made me stay. And that made me stay with K. That's why I'm here. All right. So what do you have against people not wearing suits? Well, I've, yeah, I don't have anything against them. But I think so, so I think that dressing nicely is a way to show respect to the people you meet. So so what should we think of you now that you're not dressed nicely and not wearing a bow tie? I feel offended. Yeah, as you're rightfully sure. But no, I think I think it is a nice T-shirt. But I think generally dressing dressing up is a way to show appreciation and to just elevate the entire affair of it, right? With everyone wearing T-shirts and jeans, someone has to hold up the flag of fashion as it were. What if you look like shit with pants? You just want to, you know, wear shorts? Nobody wants to wear shorts. No. You obviously haven't got to Southern California, have you? Oh, Arizona. Oh, Arizona, yeah. But we have, like in Katie, you get to travel a lot, right? And so we just decided to go to LA because why not? I wore trousers in LA. Yeah, sure. Good. We have it on tape. Whatever. Well, well, well. Kevin went down to my university to propose a project on Tomahawk, which was a multimedia player, a music player, basically. And it was done with Qt C++. It's not really Katie, but it put me the first finger into the machinery, right? And after that, I was searching for an internship in Spain because I had my girlfriend there. I didn't find an internship to where she was, but I found an internship in Barcelona where there was a blue system company. They were doing mostly Katie. So basically I did a three month internship there and I kept going after that on the Katie side, but not with my girlfriend, but that's all. That's where how I got hooked up. And after that, I kept going on the Denshin project, on K-People project a bit. And let's see what this goes. All right. I got started in Katie in 2008 when I was a student, psychology student, and a classmate of mine made me aware of a program called Season of Usability, which was a bit like Google Summer of Code, but for usability things, it's done by Open Usability. And so I applied. By the time I was still using Ubuntu with Unity, no, back then still to just know. And one of the projects was creating patterns and new interface guidelines for Plasma 4, or back then, at least they're called KDE4. And this was actually the first time I learned about it. And yeah, so then I started using it and at the same time contributing and that got me hooked. And since then, I've been part of the community. Well, so I first tried KDE in Red Hat 6.0, so it was a few years ago. And since then I always love KDE. I first got in contact with the community a few years later, like when in 2007, I was in a free software association in Colonia called HEPU, and there was an active contributors there who said, oh, let's do a genome event. And I said, oh, if it's a genome event, it should also be a KDE event. And so that's been, okay, very well, we are going to do a genome and KDE event, and you have to contact the KDE people. And then was when I got in contact with the community. And well, since then, until today. Yeah. All right. So I got introduced to KDE after using Commando. And after about a week of using Commando, I was upgrading my KDE on like a 256k abuse line and something broke. And I talked to one of the KDE contributors over there. And they went and talked to Harold, over for a second right next to me. And he told me he had to fix it. So I hopped into and Harold goes, yeah, this is how you fix it. And next thing I know, I talk to Jonathan and I'm getting appropriated for packaging fixes everywhere. And about a year later, I am in Disneyland with Harold and Pluto, for some reason, and meeting other, meeting other want to come features. Oh, this is not how it happened. One day, and this trolley guy came in and said, oh, this is so terrible. Oh, why do you guys ever do this? I'm going back to windows. You should all run max stuff. And everybody should join the Nome Foundation. Why don't you join us and in Cascupon to devour and why don't you be productive and look, you can make this fix here. And and and so we took his patch and it didn't work. But it's the first time I've heard this version of the story. Liar. But the second time that Jonathan was involved in some contra... Yeah, that that is suspicious. Well, I think I actually used Katie first when I tried Linux because I was interested in how Linux works when I wanted to switch from Windows. And I didn't like it at Katie three times. It was complicated and weird. So I started with GNOME in some, well, in some SUSE version. And then when Katie 4.0 was released, I wanted to try it out because it was something shiny new and I had enough time. So I looked at this one and it was quite like innovative. And I liked how the design was done. And so it was kind of stuck with Katie 4.0. And then switch to Katie 4.1 and 4.2. And it was actually shitty to use. But it was interesting. And meanwhile, I had discovered Kate. And Kate was what actually made me stick with Katie as a default decimal assignment. But I constantly switched back to GNOME or other desks to, well, check how they all go. They were going. But yeah, my primary desktop is Katie, so Katie. I went to university and they taught me how to make a Java program that could put a button here. And I thought, that's nice. But how do you make a real computer program that there's really interesting things? And the only way to find that out is to look at the open source code that's available there. And Katie is the best source of that. So how I got started. Well, actually I started using it because I first looked at the code. Because I thought that for free software that would be pointless. I was using something I wasn't feeling like contributing to. So I evaluated several options and settled on Katie because I knew C++ at the time and that was what I was most acquainted for. And it didn't take long until I found something I didn't like in there, which happened to be the fact that I hate icons on the desktop. And you could have anything in kicker at the time. So that was the panel that we had. Except for the... except for, yeah, yeah, good one. Nicely done. Thank you. Except for the CDs that we inserted and we had detection. So I just started with plug-in for that for kicker. And then got sucked toward the libraries and