 I don't want to sign that Bill St. Lyndon Johnson approves that bill, let's let him sell it for more than six percent. Well, this is that intermediate credit bill. Now you have to talk to Joe, and my men are not very smart on figuring out what to do, but I don't believe I'll sign it. And I let the bankers wonder how they get their money out of it. There's a lot to think. The Betches is just stealing from us, and I'm tired of it. I don't want my name associated with it. Removing a limitation of six percent. No, this just brings them up where everybody else is. I'm removing, I'm proving, I'm taking a positive action to lift the six percent ceiling, and I'm against it. I think six percent is too much to pay on government loans. My people tell me they just have to default. Then let them default, what so what? Just show that these sons of bitches are trying to rob them, and we'll have a national bank. They're just ruining the credit of all these agencies. Right there, rates up way down higher than they are now. I don't think so. I think when the American people find out what these sons of bitches are doing, and we'll let them do, I think it'll rise up and have worse than they are, so we're right. I just think that. I think what we better do is get ahold of some bond people, telling them they better buy these bonds at lower than the six. I noticed housing took a little drop yesterday. All of our people are just wanting to come in as quick as they can and issue everything they can. I've got big old fat oil bankers up there wanting to get some of this lush money. They're taking, they make a loan to the, they make a loan to some rich cattle man that's worth two billion dollars, and then by the time they run down the intermediate credit bank, they want to get their money out. You know, God knows I'm not. Let's get the smartest, let's get the smartest Andrew Jackson man we can on this. Let's find out how not to sign it, but I don't think I'm going to sign it. You don't remember the last day, David. No, I don't. But, and I don't think I'm going on this export import thing. I just don't think I'm going to recommend that. And I just think. You set us out a little time for Joe and me to talk to him now. Yeah, yeah. We'll get back at you. It doesn't have to, we don't have anything coming up. But I want some of you all to look at this from my viewpoint and figure out how, how not to do it instead of how it's got to be done. I don't have to go out in private life to bring me something down. I looked at it once. I'll go back and look at it again and get some of your people. Tell them, just tell them what the president wants done. Well, I told him this morning, why in the hell don't you rich bankers call up some bond dealer up there and tell him you ain't going to pay but sex and do it. Well, I said, we might be able to do that. They don't show better. I just think they, they got a bunch of namby pamby sissies. They don't think we got cuts or brains either in the treasury. And they just, they screw us to death. That's what I think. And our foods are all wanting to get all they can. Quick as they can. Every agency that reads about something, they want to come in and get, get it small. And I just think we just got to quit it for a while and hold back, you know, the fight ahead the other night with Joe on the federal home loan bank. Well, let me take one more look at it. I, as I said, the thing that scared the devil out of me was just the falling business. And that would just be hell in terms of what would do the rates on everything else we got. That's what, I mean, the business, if this was new money, this is money they got to roll over and they got to find it somewhere. Now, I'll take a... Well, what I boys ought to tell me, I've got a big Texan in town and he wants to get it so he can read discount something he's done. I think you're just useless and I don't think we're smart enough to know it. That's my judgment. I'm not an expert in this field, but I believe that the country is getting the impression that the Johnson financial experts are the tools of big business. And I rather think that we are. So I think we've got to watch it. Well, I don't know. All I know is, Mr. President, we haven't been able to sell anything, you know, at this rate before on these, the last one was above six. And if this were new money, I'd agree with you. But the problem is, it's not new money, it's money that's rolling over and they got to find some way to get it. Well, why don't the trust fund pick it up at $5.95? The whole issue? Yes. Well, they're just going to raise absolute hell with rigging the market. No problem with the trust fund is taking a big slice, but you've got to have a price made outside the trust fund. Otherwise, they'll say we're just jiggling with the Social Security and the pension funds to rig the market. That's why I don't. I don't care what they say, what the truth would be, would be that we're not going to let a farmer pay over 6% when the trust fund's got some money. And that's a good earning for a trust fund. We're not going to let go to Wall Street. Now, what's wrong with that? Well, what's wrong with it, it seems to me, is that you've got problems with high interest rates and you're solving them by using that trust fund money. All right. Isn't that popular use, I think? No, sir. I don't think to make a rate that's below the market rate, I don't think it is. I think it's going to cause, in the long run, more trouble is worth. Now, don't get me wrong. I think the trust fund is going to take a good, solid slice of it. That's fine. No problem. They ought to take the whole issue. Well, I don't see anybody in our outfit that's trying to keep below the 60s and just telling them we're not going to do it. I think we've got to find somebody in the government to do it. Now, you do it if you will. If you can't, let me get some consultant back in here that'll just try to be a dictator in this money field if Joe's not going to do it. Some of you got to do it, because I'm just not going to sign this stuff, remove and make the sky the limit of every banker I'm not going to do it. Well, let me take one more back in. I'll look at it once. I'll try again. All right. Look at the export import thing, too. Yes, sir. Joe and I are going to have to...