 No, I'm trying to figure this out. Thank you, babe. This sucks. retarded Okay, at least one person's figured it out two two people have figured it out. Maybe they're counting me as one though I don't know Fee are buckle What's up scared Willie? What's up scared Willie? So yeah, if you're the first one in here You get the first shot of questions of whatever the fuck you want to talk about bro Good thing I don't need my phone. Okay Biggest shit out what a fucking disaster But it looks like it's getting handled slowly, but surely posting on patreon again. Oh my god Yeah, you can't see shit on the patreon Unless I hit refresh constantly no No, I don't see anything new over there. So it must be a different one. Hold on. Oh Patreon sucks. There's got to be a better way. Just don't know how yet. Hmm posts, maybe Messages no, I Don't know how I found that last time home, maybe You won't even show me the fucking posts posts New I don't want to post a new one published, maybe Yeah, here we go. Let's see if I can get in their view Sorry, everyone. I know someone made it in through YouTube and I can see that chat, but I Can't see any chats anywhere else. So hopefully Eight people in the YouTube live chat. Let's see anybody else in here. Okay. I can only see some stuff here Tiley Bird Calvin Hobbs Bittersweet, what's up? Shut down the probe shit. We were watching better. Shut it down. Where are the mystery seeds not expecting an answer Um, I don't know when those when those are gonna be given out. That's something you have to ask speak easy I'm not privy to that knowledge on that. What's up, Kim Blackburn? How you doing, dude? We made your headband and blue bonnet would that be okay outside or more suitable indoors that headband 56 day Cut does awesome outdoors the bonnet stuff's been proving to be very very Probably mildly resistant. So it should do very well outdoors depending on the Fino, but yeah I know people run that headband cut outdoors in humble. So Should do very decent outdoors So this is a book. I don't reference very often It is a little more expensive, but it's one of the it's it's a great book It's called hemp diseases and pests management and biological control and it's actually by I don't know who J. M. McPartland is But I do know Robert Conkloch and I do know Sam the skunk man and it's one of the best reference guides I've ever seen I was going through it last night for plant pathogens pest diseases Deficiencies even has some breeding stuff in it in history, which is always really cool to see but it is very very Collegiate level for growing. So if any of you are having any kind of plant or pest issues There's a smaller one called the not by these guys called the marijuana garden saver that I recommend But if you're wanting to spend money and get like really detailed stuff on what you may have or not don't have my um Yeah, that's the joy YouTube throw easy to dot yourself, huh? Luckily, nobody can tie it to your username though. So I just You know, it is what it is. That's so Yeah So what you guys got Let's spend, you know a good hour here probably so so shoot me some shit. What do you guys want to know? That's it's a it is a way smaller chat room than usual. So people can get in any of the questions They want to get in I so brought up different and guitars to show off because I like doing that like show and tell for adults What's the deal with all new sour diesel cuts coming out of the woodwork? Well, I mean there's a sat one sour cut So all these other ones are not sour. They are Who fucking knows dude fucking knows a lot of people want to make their name off sour because it was hyped by snitch karma and then like That little worm skunk cat calls himself diesel cartel and he's pushing sour so everybody and Everybody wants to be a little bit more part of sour but I mean, there's only one sour cut so I don't know what the fuck they think they're doing You know, what types is a white bonnet lean towards to that one actually lets a blueberry come through strong Which is really rare for the white the white usually takes some back crossing before you cross it into something like that But it let's it come in strong Man people in DC even pimping AJ ECSD weasel diesel now weasel diesel is getting popular again. What the fuck What the fuck? So I caught a bit of your last one on YouTube. So is ECSD the real sour Depends on who you get it from There's so many different cuts out there called sour. Some people call their cut ECSD and it has nothing to do with the original sour It just depends it really depends and you know, there's so many different cuts from resiseed lines that might look similar They don't have the same turps don't have the same tastes. So it just really depends What's we got what surprised you most out of the blue bonnet crosses wet line Got to say the the purple punch banana og blue bonnet the punchy bluster surprised me the most I will I I mean purple punch gets a lot of shit because it's not super potent But it is very terpy and that that particular cross with The banana og I you know banana og can spit some boofy phenos On its own unless it's worked and you any worked that shit out So I was expecting a lot of boofy phenos the cut was very big yielding What I got wasn't what I would expect it it let the blueberry through so much and it was so resinous and every single phenol I was really impressed and I'm not easily impressed when it comes to height cuts So many saying that have res sour so which like thousand seeds from the O's is that yeah Res sold so many seeds of sour DIBL and sour crosses and everything that people claim is fucking whatever Who knows who knows what cut it's gonna be and that's unfortunate because you know as time goes on and more people Are losing their the ability to carry on with their their livelihoods or passions in this industry You're gonna see these cuts disappear again. I mean we saw a green crack go away We saw the blue blue dream that was everywhere the secut go away We saw Urkel go away. I mean it's still here, but I mean just not there's in so few hands and it's it's essentially gone, you know It's it's it's gonna be harder and harder to find those old cuts and with the increase in new growers thinking it's legal to grow and Just shitheads coming out of the woodworks pertaining the breeders And nobody knows who to trust especially if these are a constant influx of new people that's who these guys snipe and A lot of the older breeders tend to kind of stay back from the new grower crowd because those are the ones You're gonna fuck your shit up and blame you, you know, so it's a catch-22 with that You got the oh blue bonnet the bonnet headband and the broken native. I'm glad someone grabbed the broken native That is a really good one. What are the phenos of breeders syndicate not so blue bonnet? There isn't we have the the headband blue bonnet, which is not not says headband blue bonnet It's a 56 day headband trusted blue bonnet and you can get og types. You can get kemi types You can get super skunk types and you can get super blueberry types and everything in between in there Wow, it's trying to it makes me approve stuff if you cuss How do you think sour breeds got a bunch of them crossed with 91 going right now So if you have like a sour 91 cross the interesting thing is that in CSIs 91 s ones there were phenos that looked identical to sour in it So that's pretty cool. It just proves that the chem 91's heritage is Indeed super skunk so you're gonna get a lot of super skunk and that's I Tend to like super skunk crossed a super skunk crosses that are accurate and skunky in the first place And it seems to bring out more of those thio like smells the the skunky smells that we refer to She had surgery and punchy blisters really helped me through recovery gave the hydrocone away. Fuck. Yeah, that's fucking awesome The blueberry While a lot of people hate blueberry those turps bring not just anti anxiety as anti anxiety properties But they help with nerve pain They help me with your pain I should say and they do help a lot with a lot of people's pain and It kind of goes back to the whole thing where it like people were breeding out stuff like that because it didn't have high THC content And you would lose a lot of those medical properties just basing your grows and what you're what you're breeding and what you're selling all on THC content, so these medical collectives that were only buying, you know 25% pluses are now 30% pluses. That's what they want so By doing that and demanding that they're actually Reducing the amount of medical properties things have it's ironic, but that's how our industry is, you know Yeah, the bonnet is unusually strong for blueberry and that brings me back to my my old theory that Let's our he had always said that this was a blueberry Filial generation that he worked at and it was pure. I do not believe that is the case I think he did something different to it that made it much much much more heavily Afghani base because they're not seen a lot of narrow leaf come out of that and Whatever he crossed it to had some sort of berry turp. I would assume to lock in those berry turps Keeping that proprietary is is his prerogative, you know, but yeah, I couldn't lie like that, but During that time everybody was just thieving everybody shit renaming it and it was a good way to Watch your own stuff get worked and renamed if you kept back some stuff Would you say Northern Lights number two F2 Steve Murphy's Afghan crossed with Don the Indian Afghan from Oregon? Or am I missing something so? The NL2 was not Don's Afghan the NL2 was Steve Murphy's Afghan Cross to I don't believe we know What else was in NL2? The other half that Don used I would assume it was another Steve Murphy Afghan and not Don's Afghan But it's just kind of hearsay right now as far as what we really know about that I was able to confirm that Northern Lights one is indeed Steve Murphy Afghan Cross to Steve Murphy Afghan from Greg the other day though. That's kind of cool because We had I think at first he had said that it was all he said in a broad term all the Northern Lights were Indica cross to sativa or Afghani cross to sativas But he it was just like a misspeaking that the first one was definitely an Afghani Afghani Now NL2 looks so heavily Afghani, but Afghans can dominate sativas Yeah, so it's really hard to say if it was a pure Afghani or what what that was but Yeah, Don was the dude who made the cross the history on Don is that he would go to the barber shop Where these guys would go hang out like there was a hydroponic store run by Kevin Bjornsson And maybe one day we'll release that podcast. We do have a recorded interview with Kevin Bjornsson that owned the original hydroponic shop there and in Washington But they would all meet also at a hair salon and Don came in and he was this is the story Don came in and he was a veteran and he was kind of low on funds And they gave him some lights and some seeds to grow and what he brought back and made with that over time was NL2 So, yeah, that's the the slight story behind that how does cookies hyper train keep going on despite them being snitches and bitches True why did their new strings become a it thing to make crosses when they're mostly GSE rehashes I Mean it's just a cheap marketing trick to me like people think rappers are really growers or that rappers really smoke the best weed which I mean some of them smoke really good weed all the time, but if they're all smoking cookies, they don't know shit about shit It's just branding all it is is branding it's branding over rebranding the same thing give it a new different name And they laugh you know those motherfuckers are laughing their way to the bank every time and it's just kind of sad I mean they cookies was cookies SF was started by snitches federal informants. We have that paperwork it's not It's not like a secret, you know Burner himself has gone into these local city council meetings and snitched on illegal grow-ups Around him to get them popped because they were competition Over the past few years like growing up that was not allowed it was not fucking allowed You're not allowed to snitch you did not show your face Get your ass beat something worse Nowadays it just seems like anybody can say anything or do anything and it's allowed. I mean Y'all know what we dealt with the past year because of all this shit Just straight snitches and worms and Still it's it goes back to people thinking that the loudest in the room is the smartest and it's just never the case as we got What do you know about the Indiana bubble gum or Illinois or what the fuck ever it is? Okay, so the cut that is called the Indiana bubble gum was from serious seeds bubble gum popped 1995 the year they won the cup and it was a selection from that That's a cut like me CSI anybody who's using the bubble gum cut that looks like our cut is is using Pip uses that one too. That's what I used in bubbleberry v2. That is from a serious seeds pop. However However the original seeds Came from a guy if I remember correctly I'll wait till we do the episode if we ever do I Know most of the guys involved in it Adam Dunn has told several stories, but there's one story where he had Victor on who Essentially is the bubble gum man. So yeah, that's the one I think it was the 25th anniversary bubble gum you get some of the story out there a really a rough Telling of the the actual story What headband did you use for Skittles headband It was a headband crust as giddles bx3, which is the z-cube from dying breed It was a very very very first release of that Very early release of it the headband in there is the 56 day headband NorCal headband. It has all kinds of different names Can you refresh me on what you think chem D is chem 91? Super skunk is what I think it is Got a bunch of turp profiles out of Nazis headband chem D that are surprising a mix of diesel black pepper root beer chocolate Finos so a lot of that is going to be from the Just straight not so it's headband the licorice the chocolate root beer Black pepper a lot of that's going to be from the LA Kush Aka not so banned. I'll call it just so people don't get confused with with the 56 day headband I Think chem D is a chem 91 and super skunk. I do not believe that it was a a sister seed pop and most of us don't That have worked with that for a long time or the chem for the chem for actually think is a Like a chem 91 or a chem a chem of sorts Prostate and all five haze and heavy on the chem smell heavy on the NL five haze production What else we got in there chem sis probably the same thing chem 91 super skunk a lot of these are going to be chem 91 super skunks In the early pops and I think 91 is just super skunk. I really do or afghani super skunk, but Mostly super skunk No, real chem D. Terps. Yeah description of those poop Terps. Yeah, you know, it just depends Chem D has several expressions. I've learned over the years and that's it's taking me a long time to learn that about clones it really has like Some clones like you can see different expressions of that are that are slightly similar and we're like, okay So he added some of this so it has a little bit of a different smell But whatever but in certain cases and I really really learned this mostly recently with the UK cheese How different how different clones can express? between different environments even micro climates in your environment UK cheese can go fruity berry all the way to foot funk cheese and It just depends on the environment and like for a long time people be like, oh, that's a fake cut You got that fake cut and I really thought I had a fucking wrong cut for the cheese for a while because of it but it can't express those those like more cheesy foot funk cheeto Terps So, yeah You can see that with chem D. You can see that with a lot of things can be you can go mop all baby shitty Bad breath, you know all around there And some people think skunky too. So yeah Paint and onions. Yeah, some people can get some money out of it Skunky I like coffee Terps. I really do Know your menu right season almost everything is gone Fuck did I miss out on the Platinum banana headband? No, I think there's gonna be a big drop very soon the banana headband I think there might be some in stock. I don't know you're gonna have to look What's the deal with Duke his chick was actually doing the breeding okay, okay? I promise something I promise something and this is something I don't normally talk about because he's got a fucking cult of weirdos around him And there's still people selling Duke seeds There's still people selling Duke seeds that sell my seeds and they feel like every time I talk about it It hurts their bottom line so This is private right so Welcome Duke came into the scene via sub cool Sub crew was his key into the scene and Nobody none of my friends none of the old crew none of the old school crew Everybody's like who's this fucking guy everybody keeps talking about like Duke Diamond like he's some old school dude, right? So sub cool brought him in and got him started working right when Rick from Brothers Grimm popped back up Rick from Brothers Grimm was gone for like fucking 20 years and pops back up He hit me up and a few other people up I got him in touch with the Adam Dunn show so he could talk and I was interested to see what he would say because back in the day it wasn't really clear who was doing all the breeding whether it was Soul Rick or sly and sly disappeared and it turns out he disappeared because he He was fed up with the industry. I assume I believe Rick probably did him dirty because that's what Rick does with everyone But anyway, Rick popped up 20 years late and most of us just knew him knew of him from back in the day So I passed him over to Adam Dunn. They had him on the Adam Dunn show and that's Kind of how he made his route to Duke Diamond and Duke Diamond became a part of Brothers Grimm At this point they were making seeds together And I know Duke was growing at the time if I remember correctly and making seeds for Brothers Grimm This was in Colorado His chick at the time lived in Colorado with him and may have been doing a lot of this with him That's that's kind of speculative, but I assume she was helping him a lot So when he moved back to VA or wherever the fuck he moved to Tennessee some in bread place He was no longer making seeds this is the whole time for Dominion He was no longer making seeds his chick is making is and it turned out to be his ex by this point But they call each other business partners because she wants no one to know that she ever dated that scumbag And during this time he starts trying to you know, like network with all of us And we we give him a fair shot like I thought oh he seems to know breeding he seems to be able to stop breeding and he can He talked it very confidently But then he would start telling tales like in in like text like hey man, you know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna quit breeding. I'm gonna be a Security like security detail private security detail and I was like oh wow really dude. Where are you gonna do that? He's like I don't know wherever Whoever's the most dangerous. I like danger Just like wild shit and then like one of the stories was yeah one time I Popped a cap in it in a Hells Angels kneecaps Then one time he said I'll beat a man so bad and I pissed on him that my friend threw up like just wild shit like he would never talk breeding with me privately ever which I thought was kind of weird because he seemed to be able to talk it so proficiently when he's Doing his life. He's a tough those long, you know fireside chats with this is the VA slow draw and But when we talked he would only talk like shit like Outrageous dumb shit. I remember one of the times he's like hey, I know all the money's gonna be kept in real cup You want to hit that shit? You're gonna hit the emerald cup you're gonna rob. Yeah, man. I know all the I know all the monies being kept You know, yeah, let's just hit it. It's just like Pathological liar shit. So Now by that point he was still around and he was nice and I didn't have any proof He was lying about what he said he worked with so I just kind of kept shit to myself plus he had already developed such a fucking Cultie following by the time he did a good job He got linked up with Swamp Boys and both Swamp Boys are super nice dudes and Very accepting of people He got linked up with skunk VA who's the same and skunk VA I mean, I'm not gonna say anything to skunk VA So that has nothing to do with anything but you can see from the actions and everything that went down after he got popped everybody fucking distance at one point there was a claim made by either Duke or his girlfriend or his wife he married some meth head chick and they'd made a claim that some seeds were stolen from them and and That it was a speakeasy and fucking I think Jason and then they said that I was the head of it stealing his seeds and So we got word to Duke in prison and we said hey motherfucker, you better make this fucking right You need to go on air and say this didn't happen So he recorded something saying skunk VA didn't do anything, but he wouldn't say my name at all so Yeah, he's locked out of the family. He's locked out for good. That's what happens What happens when you're fucking liar shit catches up, you know But again this you know, and then there's other things like the VA beach after Annie We have a very good friend of VA who is legit is fucked part of our old crew one of the most respected breeders by all of us and He said that thing has been dead forever dead forever and everybody around here knows it and Yeah, there's more I can even say there, but I'm not going to But needless to say I you know Duke could tell me how you as a punk rocker in high school and shit And we got a hold of his high school yearbook photo because May happen to know someone who went to high school with a motherfucker and he was this fucking dumb little tubby dork, you know It was just all lies and smoking mirrors and smoking meth and All kinds of shit. He started shit with the elite cannabis crew trash deck. They let him live there. He trashed a house Didn't contribute to anything so I had known quite a bit before he got pop that He was off in the fucking head But it wasn't like people think that I like to blast people and that's all I do And I spend a lot of time sitting on a lot of info that I just don't want to say because it's it's neither here nor there In regards to people's work and their personal lives When people make claims that you know, I'm a thief or I stole from then, you know, you're you're saying some shit You're saying some shit. So I let some of it out early on and fucking Everybody just got so fucking butt hurt about it. His is his fans didn't want to hear it They don't want to believe it and these are the people that bought skunk one across to everything like you read They really thought they were gonna get some some fucking skunky Dials and turps, you know, like they thought they had the fucking shit because Duke Diamond said and Where is it? Where's the cuts? Where's the cuts, bro? Where's the cuts that people kept where's the shit that people grew they were happy with As far as being skunky, I know some people enjoyed some of his skunky stuff. That wasn't skunky the skunk one stuff, but Yeah, like y'all got work for skunk one and he didn't lie that skunk one was in it Tiki's hoarding them. Yeah, dude I had people flip the fuck out on me about the Duke thing that lame game on flame, dude He fucking went but man as when he found out about all this shit Bananas Yeah, I mean like you can find decent shit and sub cool stuff. You can find decent shit and I'm not gonna say some other names, but you can find decent shit and sub cool stuff and Duke stuff and it's it's if you are Looking for skunky stuff. You're gonna have a very hard time very hard time finding in all that What about the month? I don't know any of his stray names I didn't give a fuck because I already knew he was a liar So like I wasn't like keeping track of Duke strain or what he thought was what or what he was putting out because I already knew like This dude's liar. So fucking doesn't matter what he says or any of it I had to go backstage. There's still some platinum and in a headband. There you go yes, everybody a part of this and go to the backstage area of the the Speakeasy thing you guys all have access to everything first. So keep that in mind if you're part of patreon you get to that so is the story about Ten original seeds or whatever just a legend marketing ploy by Kim dog Greg I can't I can't comment on if those did exist or if those cuts got changed later on I just know what the breeding tells us the s1s tell us the outcrosses tell us Experience with other super scunks tell us experience with the nl5 hazes tell us and it's not just like my my theory This is a working theory by a bunch of us I Often tell people like the canna luminati. Is it just me? It's and I'm not the head of it. I'm just the most vocal There are a lot of people involved with that There are a lot of people involved in this research. They just have no interest at all in relaying anything to the public They just don't like the drama. They don't I don't you like the drama, but no one else gonna say it And I got no fucking edit button. So You know it is what it is but there are a lot of people behind this and a lot of people behind this research and If anybody ever calls me out to question it and says that I'm full of shit Then they'll speak that's how it goes You know, but I don't think anybody can really not chem dog not anyone I nobody can really count of these stories because we can prove it It's it's very easy to show Cam yeah, I mean even chem for you can hold up next to the catalog I don't know if I have it here of the They don't have some of the seed bank ones in SSSC right now But you can you can flip to the picture of an all-five haze and put it up next to the chem for a button see it right there That's not the only proof, but yeah, that's just part of it. It's how it breeds All of the above plus even like the number one is a great expression of nl5 haze and much less chemi What else you guys got? Several years now several people Mike, and I have been so nice to that dude over the years like he was seemed so chill so nice But when he started working with a guy named joint breath We had some problems joint breath was Telling people he was going to murder me and he would put pee butt approved above it and He would say the n-word a lot and put pee butt approved There were every post he was doing at the time you put pee butt approved because he was telling P-bud Mike that he was going to make him a bunch of money He got the chem 91 and chem D not real chem D off of pee bud because doesn't even know can be and and With the promises of making him money. So when I hit a people. I'm like, yo, right we're friends, right? Why are Why are you letting him say this and putting pee butt approved over it? That's kind of fucked up don't you think and he said told me he's like I need money I need to support my family. I can't tell him no blah blah blah I was like, okay, so you just sold out one of your friends for money cool cool, bro And guess what he never got paid for it. So Ever since then P-bud said all kinds of wild shit talked all kinds of shit like he's tough You're not he's just a little squirmy squirmy fuck, but I Was always respectful and nice to him until that until he was approving someone some racist redneck saying they were gonna kill me and In bombs everywhere What do you know about cultivated genetics and I've never heard of that? The Durban poison question made it 935. I'm not sure what that means You know five writers can be cool with thoughts on HSO. I might leave that for a future patreon episode So I already dropped the Duke bomb genetics Cultivators choice maybe That's Sam the skunk man Hey, yeah, isn't that as you see one of the same company names cultivators choice It's the same skunk man. So can be skunk one everything Well, not so ever let the it's not headband not so it just let's just start calling it not so banned not so bad Let's do that not so banned Cultivated choice. Oh Yeah, I don't know much about him, but he seems nice Walter. He's that Byron guy seems nice. He does seem nice He does seem nice. I will say that he's been around for a bit. I Can't comment on what he uses or what's you know, but he seems nice I'm gonna run a bunch of these dog shit Kim one. What should I expect out of an L5 haze experience? That's gonna be super super in all five haze. You're gonna see some trapinoline some fruit some You might find some buds that are more airy you might find some that are more dense You might find some that are very stretchy and run 12 13 weeks You might find some that are closer to the nine week period But then all five haze you get a whole big gamut, but you're also getting some chem in there and some afghani So it might shorten it a little bit Anything you can tell us about your thoughts of what will come from the NL five project besides being some fire We'll see I don't even want to go that far yet We don't know if they're gonna be fire We have no clue and that's a part of the first breeding and the open pollination to see what's in there If we find fire the line will be worked further even if it's Even if it's pretty good, but we'll still work it further because it's necessary. It's a baseline whatever You know, I know that that McCormick had already released these and in his own way But it was important to me and CSI hope that these get released proper That these get a proper selection done a proper open pollination and then further selections done It's not gonna be done like that with McCormick. He's not a breeder. He doesn't have space, you know, it's just it's stupid so a Lot of people spent their money on that and we're not gonna fucking gouge on these it's not it's not the point It's it's a baseline and it's important that people grow them and that's pretty much it If there is fire found in it. Well, it'll be met with a lot of The most interesting the things that interest me and CSI help the most as far as what we outcross it to But yeah, there might be some boof in that hell five. I mean, there's a good chance Do you think this whole Piff movement like the GSE movement is Plars branding sweatpants shirts and other junk with flashy labels and do you feel JJ still breeds the true direction? Ooh Hit me with good questions. So I'm very possessive over the term Piff because we went we got the real Piff From the real crew running it and and worked it. They asked us never to produce it pure We didn't we've released it in the hybrid And a few hybrids, but mostly one hybrid Nowadays I see lots of people using the term Piff very recklessly and Maybe even doubling up on the word Piff with no Piff in it I think people have lost sight of what Piff is and that it was an actual line That there were then that Piff actually smelled like very specific stuff, which I I'll say it here Because this is like off the books, but I hate saying stuff giving people ammo to lie And and we were finding that with the podcast that all it was doing All it was doing was like we were getting plagiarized by some from mids and scum magazine You know like instantly after every and you can even go back and look based on what beer brothers farm farms put out like Within a week after every fucking episode was released They were nailing the same fucking shit and quoting us and weren't giving us quote credit at all Liars were using what we were saying to to to work their story So that was part of the problem and that is that is part of the problem. I don't know how to combat that Piff is very pissy metallic I Frankincense specifically Now people say incency. That's not it is a very specific type of incense not knob chompa not you that shit Frankincense like a Catholic church, which is also why it was called church Brent Jiggy out here in Oklahoma want to always talks good. Yeah, Jiggy's a great dude. I love Jiggy fly. He's a cool dude I do scenario would you want more of the Hawaiian or Afghani throwback showing up again? So we're also running the Hawaiian lights, which is the back cross to the Hawaiian It's a Hawaiian back cross to the Hawaiian Afghani That was the with the Hawaiian Afghani being in all five So we have the line that is the back cross to that Hawaiian and we're running that as well I'm gonna be reproducing that as well. So we'll get to see both What made you sour on the podcast guy the GG episode, right? Yeah, I was mostly it I when I started him when I saw him start a seed company Having no real growing experience much not much growing experience and bringing experience, but he knew that people would Believe that he was good friends with the breeders that he interviewed that bothered me a little bit if I'm if I'm to be honest like someone's making a company off of People's Assumptions and that bothered me, but I just left it, you know, whatever The gauge-green thing did really bother me though. I mean that that's gonna bother anyone, you know some dude fucking Hey, this dude is fucking molested as a kid. That's really you're gonna air that really and you're supposed to be like kind of Friendly with me. I gave you three episodes and they they're right under Bodie and Caleb is the most listened to you You're gonna fucking do that and I know in his mind. He was probably thinking. Oh, this would be great for fucking drama This will fucking sell and and that bothered me But at the same time like I was glad it was out there and up there because at least people got to see who the dude is And what his heart is I never asked him to take it down once I haven't talked to him since that you know what he did But Marcus from cult classics. I Guess they gauge-green had besmirched his character in it and he asked him to take it down so it came down But yeah, that was I was that was stupid and how he handled it after like he wasn't even apologetic at all He didn't give a fuck what he did so I You know, what are you gonna do people make up their own minds? How do you think the dog shit electric blue blue glue is to piff? It's it's just wildly different wildly different The dog shit boog is gonna be more mercy interpaneling and the the piff isn't interpaneling at all So it's just a wildly different Is the German poison in your trademark Chad the same cut CSI Humboldt uses probably we didn't compare them or anything But probably Do you think JJ still breeds and works lines to full potential solid director? I've known JJ a long time I've known JJ a very long time. We have not always been friends. We have not always been friends We were very contentious at some points in our in our career We have very different breeding choices Maybe we see the lines very differently his experience with what he works with maybe he sees something totally different And we have different opinions on what cuts are legit and what aren't With that said, you know, like I respect the fact that he's been doing this for a long time He's one of the older dudes and like I try not to focus on that Even if I disagree with him on certain things because he's been around so long and he's he's made lines that are staples Like StarDog is a staple like I mean, it's not like Oji Kush or cookie staple But it's a staple people loved it and it won a bunch of awards for him He's not always easy to get along with but neither am I so I'm trying to Say this as carefully as I can because it has taken so long for us to get along But hopefully that answers some of the question, you know, like I mean, I'm not I could never say that his lines are Shit, I've used some of his lines. The white dog was fucking awesome. The DD and L was fucking awesome I Haven't run any of his more recent lines So I can't really comment on If those are real the real cuts any of that there was some stuff when you're showing like Elephant air tie that was a broadleafed Afghani. That was a little weird the chem three. We all know is dead The super stunk. We're all pretty sure is dead. Like it's things like that like we disagree on stuff, but I He's not like the enemy, you know, like it's just not my enemy I want to see the dudes that have paved the way for this industry make it I do and it just sucks that like I Don't know Yeah, I'll leave it at that Recently lots are coming out so fast. I just don't see where the time was to put in You know, I mean in the other thing like I talked about this all the time in the in the life It's like breeding is not an option anymore breeding like real true breeding working lines all that stuff I don't give a fuck what anybody says. I don't give a fuck like some guy came in the post It's like yeah, you're fucking dumb. You're you don't know what you're fucking talking about I think it is unlike the archive post people work fucking lines and blah blah blah or no is on Boston roots People work lines like I forgot me but you might go tech and like some other fucking idiots that are lying about taking things like f8 Or f12 or some stupid shit And I bls and whatever it's just like no, that's not happening Like you will lose your company if you are working a line for more than two years One one of these other little schmucks lit that right dicks on any breeder is gonna Hear about it and and try to put it up for you. Even if they don't have it They'll just get that right out To if you're working it now You don't know in two years if it's even gonna be remotely popular or sell and right now with so little money being circulated in the United States And it being so expensive to breed because you got to remember we're keeping mom rooms We're not just keeping like just whatever plants we use in buying cuts What we're keeping whole mom rooms of stuff from the old days that nobody fucking buys like people act like they're interested in it But whether they're interested in it is different than if they buy it so Working lines is is something a lot of us were super passionate about at one time And I'm I'm fortunate that I was in a time where I was able to work lines But man like I think about it now and there's so much I'd love to do and it's like there's no way There's no fucking way. There's no way. There's not enough money in the industry anymore to be working lines like that And it's the same thing It's you see a lot of a lot of like old-school breeders and awesome breeders Using like modern cuts that they maybe don't like so much But you have to or you're not gonna have any sales and it's just the the passionate people don't use their money as wisely, I guess or Aren't a major part of force of the buying power in the seed industry anymore Like people tell me they want more hazy stuff. They want one of this. I've made all that. I'm done all that Didn't sell it didn't fucking sell I couldn't give it away like that that can be Colombian gold was brought up earlier That was fucking amazing Couldn't sell it gave all of it away the pip stuff couldn't sell it gave all of it away Even the very last stuff I had for myself. I gave it away because I was like this is never gonna sell no one's ever gonna want this shit Have you personally popped much of CSI or buddies gear? Yes. Yes. I embody absolutely never popped anything from Jean Jay Jay's dirty taxi and black piff for fucking fire. Yeah, and see that's the thing though I'm not saying that he doesn't make fire. That's that's what I don't want you to take away from that It's Cuban black case is not the piff. It wasn't that that Cuban black case cut came from a guy named incognito who introduced a fake a fake Cuban black case, which is what everybody's growing and The chem three and a fake when he released that he was telling people. Yeah, it's cut super piffy. So people started slapping piff on accurate for I want to know more so if it's fuck Luck or direction if that makes sense I Can't tell you that I really can't I mean I'm not there I'm not watching what what JJ is doing to breed or any of that I think he's got a good record for making stuff. That's great That people like Now people that are autistic like me might be more interested in the genetic aspect and worrying about the future people That don't know as much if there is something incorrect in a line being used and passed down incorrectly That fucked up the whole gene pool from there on out That's my concern for future breeders that You know if they want can be and they go grow start dog like and they use that and they start saying oh This is super can be super can be that gets put in the history fucking books All of a sudden people think they can just go to start up for real can be and that's not may not necessarily be the You know what I mean like that's just an example. I'm not saying that's the case I'm just it's the first thing I could think of so I'm really interested in the genetic aspect and things being right Whether it's fire or not That's very subjective There's a lot of things that I love that people hate and vice versa There's a lot of things that people love that I hate that I don't think is super dank So whether it's fire or not doesn't concern me whether it's true or not does for that reason How's the audio going now Have I worked on any root beer lines? So When flunk tech first brought that stuff to my house and I got smoky as a GMO root beer funk is what he called it at the time because it was GMO funk or root beer funk or something I know it was it was crossed to something of Bodys and that was what he was showing everyone And it was very black licorice. It wasn't root berry at all to me, but root beer black licorice or It's subtle differences, but I thought it was it was awesome. I thought it was dang Other than smoking it. I have not worked any of it Grandola funk. There you go Can you use pollen on a s1 reversal to pollinate another s1? Absolutely bitter did that with the the P91 reversal He crossed he had popped my pack of P91 s1s picked his two favorite phenos reversed one onto the other And it actually worked it in an amazing fucking direction. However, he did it It increased the resin production like tenfold and it's consistently good. So, yeah You should let your patrons access the the arcade yes heirloom cut I don't even have that cut anymore. I have the s1s That cut was lost right after that along with the mail because I had to move and I let everything go to a guy named Moony move dog who's supposed to be a tissue culture expert from eight me all kinds of promises I'm gonna teach you culture this that this he literally Killed my whole mother was like fuck it not my fault, you know, he lied about it for over a month It was it was devastating. I lost everything and Thankful guys and Bo you went immediately restock my shit. So yeah, I mean There was a good and I would never have worked the blue bonnet line if I still have my right very cut So there's certain things that it did push me to do that. I'm glad it did because that is the best reading mail I've ever seen in my life. I can consistently know how it's gonna breed with Ever seen in my life. I can consistently know how it's gonna breed within that not happen with that said fuck that guy for fucking killing my shit Can you stress a plant to self itself and have the seeds and not be hermaphroditic? Yes. Yeah If the plant doesn't normally stress herm unless you like push it super hard, you might get lucky I Don't recommend stress herming because there's also the chance that epigenetically you're passing on this this this super stress trait Like it like if the women's giving birth during stress and her children come out, you know retarded For no better term than I can think of That that is epigenetics in action So yeah, there is always that too and maybe it's a trait you won't see that that gets epigenetically mutated You miss having riot seeds banner behind you and having people ask where they can buy her seeds. Oh fuck Yeah, that was great. That was great. I man some of that shit would make me so fucking grumpy. I Got a solid Format with few people though. It gives me a better chance to interact with people and Yeah, I think better questions are getting asked stuff that I'd rather talk about so that's kind of cool I like this a lot more We'll probably be doing a lot more of these for the patreon people I've been lagging hard like the past year. I had a bad move and With COVID and everything else and it just it got kind of crazy and and everything kind of crashing down Society-wise so hopefully I'll be able to do a lot more stuff with you guys We do have the fights For big fight nights most people come to discord and watch those with me If they're into MMA, I have a bunch of different documentaries I can play if you guys ever want to watch old cannabis documentaries that are rare All kinds of shit. It's just you know, like you guys want to watch something if you hop into discord tag me and say Hey Matt play this fucking shit and I'll do it but I do want to make more use of this stuff and and Morgan you in there I'm sure she's there. I Know Wilder fury it killed me dude that night for Wilder fury my internet. What did happen? Oh my fucking my My Wi-Fi so like I got gigabit here And there's a router and then a separate Wi-Fi box the separate Wi-Fi box died if fucking died So I couldn't watch it live. I couldn't do anything. It fucking killed me dude killed me So maybe we can do a shirt giveaway in here What do you guys think should we do a shirt giveaway or? What should we do what kind of giveaway for the people that showed up for the very first patreon Stuff Yeah, I would let you see lots of cookies looking stuff with the ogkb you're gonna get a lot more great night of Some we finished and it's it's beautiful. Am I over working clockwork orange and crybabies moved on to it Dude, I worked that shit ever since I started that was like the first line. I was reversing all that stuff I love it, but at a certain point. I Love it, but at a certain point I have to force myself to move on from certain lines or I just get I get too tied into it Like even with the blue bonnet. I love it. I love the fact that the mail is so easy to do Love Everything about that. I you know a lot of people are telling me this in my DMs like through this through this But people are getting really depressed because it's fucking hard. It's really hard for it Everyone not just he intends to dominate the blueberry. So it's a good super scum. Oh No Is it fixing anymore? Is it still fucked up? Man, man, man, I don't know how to restart this without restarting the whole stream Hopefully it catches up. Okay, so long as we're gonna get now. We need to pick two people for the giveaway. I Don't know how the fuck I'm gonna do this. Okay. I got it. I got it. I got away Now this is gonna be the first two people To guess What this guitar is in this case right here. Oh, yeah, that isn't fair to people that don't know guitars What else am I gonna do? Every time it's like a trivia thing like everybody sees their their answer Pop up at the same time and then they get mad that Like they think they won and it's not like that Let's get it figured out real quick figure it out real quick What should we do Just close my eyes and point I'll try that. Hold on me maximize this That way the whole screen is there everybody type something because it's gonna be a random so just start spamming I guess and I'll give it 10 seconds. All right It's gonna be number person number one But I need you over here so you can read what I point to come on And I just look from the side then if you don't want to be on camera, so I see everybody's names ready Yeah, I'm gonna close my eyes. You get you have to look you don't close your eyes. I'm okay one two three four five six seven eight nine Ten if it's more than a picture went above or below. It's it's the it says It's a blight blue you stop it green mountain ice cream Mountain CG That's number one. Okay. I need one more Okay, so green Mountain CG is one for 10. Okay. I'll do it for five seconds. All right. Here we go again one two three four five It was you who says you banny Benny Benny Benny one Yeah, no, that's it Benny one so Benny and Green Mountain CG You get a shirt you get a shirt you get a shirt Everybody get sure this was a I think a Mustang in here. Let's see. I'll show it off. Anyways, I Like showing off my fucking guitar Get on for show-and-tell goddamnit exactly way here it is This is That's not the only one though I brought another guitar for show-and-tell This is the quality content you kind of his fans came for Lindsay yeah, I do this neck this neck after I bought this body separate from the neck and yeah, this is a Very nice Lindsay washed neck actually I applied the racing straight to so it's kind of a cheat, but you know I don't have it here. He has it over there. He hasn't put it together yet. I got nice Which one is I think it's a Jaguar over there that my stepdad's working on he's a master craftsman with wood and He works on guitars and I bought him stuff to do it and he's been been making some beautiful beautiful beautiful stuff with it Like my stepdad rocks Tom's a good man. All right, here's the other one though. This is this one. I like a lot. Is The EMG's look like active pickup now. Those are just the the standard Mustang fender pickups That's this is kind of a cheapy, but I love it look playing it The Gretsch double jet. Oh, I haven't put this in the vibramate spoiler string retainer for bigsby vibrados Because there's a bigsby on it, and I don't I don't really like bigsby's that much, but um yeah Electro-matic, so it's the cheaper end of the Gretsch because I don't know I Like it. I wanted to get a Gretsch and I'm I'm a cheap ass Do I have any recordings out? Yeah, I was in an old band called the soul steppers one word and you could find that on YouTube I was in a band called the black jerks. I just found our old cassette tape. That was a punk rock band a black power punk rock band and The kill I know we have recordings, but that shit was awful. It was more of a state of people came to see us fight Like my our single word blade blade his head cut it open and bleed everywhere And you'd run around naked and attack people and you'd play in the dark and have strobe lights going so people would come for the show, but Yeah, the soul steppers recordings are still up though That was that was like an old 60s Like that 60s style reggae band I Haven't played that kind of stuff in a long time though. Yeah, there's some stuff up there I mostly did drums on that, but there's some guitar work up there Anyways When you swap out of these you swapped up the toasters or what are these called can't remember it's been a while toasters right I think God Robo Robo and it's been a while One day though one day We're going to have a guitar a Little patreon thing for my homies and we're gonna go through all the like the old pickups that I have and all that shit for anybody Who's interested in that is probably like five of you, but I think it'll be fun I don't know. I got some really cool pickups. I haven't put in some things. I've got like an old Black Beauty the epiphone it's an epiphone, but it is a black beauty With three pickups and three humbuckers and I'm going to trade those out for some custom ones. I had made back in the day I think I even had some toasters made for this that are nicer and hand-wound So and they're gold so I'll have to change all the hardware. But yeah anyway, I Guess we can end it now. It's been over an hour I really appreciate you guys who showed up here. This has been a lot more fun than the The normal lives. I like the fact that it's More personal and shit and anybody who's here Feel free to join the discord if you're not already a part of the discord join it because there's cool shit over there And I can put up UFO documentaries. I got dude. I have so many fucking UFO documentaries coming on my fucking years It's unreal. So if you're into that kind of stuff, I would you know, I'd recommend joining the discord and not so there all the time You can ask him questions He's working all the time. So he's always busy, but he does go in and he does answer people's questions and You know It's nice to have access to certain people and if I can't answer it. Maybe someone else can you know? Anyways, yeah, I guess that's it. Thank you everyone for showing up. I hope you guys enjoy the prizes be sure to email Hit up Morgan and she'll help you take care of the shirt stuff because she knows more about that But thank you for those who participated Benny Green Mountain CG Yeah, we got it working today at least at least as fucking worked in the end, right? Peace