 Welcome to the Adam does movies podcast episode six. I'm your host Adam. Of course today. We're talking transformers We're talking robots in disguise. They're more than meets the eye these movies I'm not so sure about they came out in 2007 and they continue to flourish all the way up until this week When transformers rise of the beast hits the big screen the seventh installment to the transformers universe the transformer If you will think I'm the only person that's ever so bad. Let's probably keep it that way Here's the synopsis via paramount pictures on IMDB set in the 1990s Transformers rise of the beast will take audiences on an action-packed Globetrotting adventure as the Maximals Predacons and Terracons join the battle between the Autobots and Decepticons on earth Noah a sharp young guy from Brooklyn and Elena an ambitious talented Artifact researcher are swept up in the conflict as Optimus Prime and the Autobots face a terrifying new nemesis Bent on their destruction named Scourge Wow, that's a lot to take in feels like the Autobots are always right on the cusp of extinction every single time One of the movies is called Age of Extinction, but we'll get there today on the podcast We're going to be Briefly going over all these transformers movies the pros the cons everything a little bit of trivia mixed in and I'm going to rank them quickly We're going to do this in a concise manner. We're going to stay on topic. We're going to say focused So let's talk a little bit briefly about this new film coming out. It's not directed by Michael Bay It's not directed by Michael Bay. I think I kind of flubbed my lines there. That's okay This is on this is off the cuff. So forgive me if there's some mistakes He directed the first five transformers movies did not do bumblebee and he is not back for this one He's actually retired from transformers. He's done. He's he's hung up the uh Robotic towel if you will No, the director here is Steven capel jr. Who directed creed 2 which was a solid film I quite enjoyed that direction was good in that movie. I think he'll he'll do okay. Hell mean this one The movie is just shy of two hours long which makes it one of the shortest transformers movies, believe it or not It's crazy how long these films are and the stories are so insanely stupid It's remarkable the Fast and the Furious franchise looks at transformers plots and are like, yeah, that's a bit much That's a bit extreme This is a standalone movie to bumblebee which came out in 2018 That's confusing because bumblebee was a prequel to the transformers movies directed by michael bay um This is a sequel to bumblebee, but not a prequel anymore to the bay verse It's gonna set up its own trilogy as I graze over my notes I see that it stars michelle u p davidson colman domingo ron perlman peter dinklage and of course peter cullen back for the millionth time to voice the autobot leader himself Optimus prime as well as he should be peter cullen is is just terrific. It's such a voice of of generation, right? It never gets old Let's dive in to the first film that started it all Obviously not the first thing that ever started transformers is based off the hasbro toy line from way back in the 80s where I like to live adam adam born in 1982 Big fan of the transformers when I grew up a little bit was able to watch the cartoon series by some of the toys And uh, yeah, we never looked back Maybe we should have though Maybe we should have when we approached these bay movies and look at what exactly worked with them Not that the movies didn't work. They've grossed a stupid amount of money They were all very financially successful except for I believe transformers The last night lost a hundred million for the studio, but they're back again with the new movie We'll see how it shakes out The the thing I had an issue with and a lot of people did was these michael bay movies the character design was just very alien and I get that they're aliens But if you look at the cartoon and the toy line, they were boxy They were uh, a little bit closer to vehicles than we got with the movies I don't mind them. I don't mind the design of them. It's okay So let's jump in 2007 transformers directed by michael bay Runtime of two hours and 24 minutes. I believe this was also produced by steven spielberg So you got the big names on this one spielberg probably produces a lot of them It's it's easy money at the end of the day for a producer stars shyla bow shyla beef shyla buff Fresh off of even stevens. I think he was in eye robot and charlie's angels. He was in these bit rolls Of course, lewis stevens a fantastic character from the hit disney show even stevens Here though. He has he's front and center. He is the star of this thing sandwood wiki joining him Megan fox. She has a character name. It doesn't matter to me. It's just it's megan fox She's hot. She looks good. She's sassy. That's all you need throw her straddling a motorcycle Straddling the hood of a car really just a pin-up girl for the ages Then we have josh du mel who's going to go on to be in a few of these as well Josh du mel might be in More than any of the other ones to be honest with you. Here's the synopsis the plot synop for short if you will High school student sam wood wiki buys his first car Who is actually the autobot bumblebee bumblebee to fend sam and his girlfriend? mackayla, I think that's her name mackayla Okay, mackayla veins from the decepticon barricade before the other autobots arrive on earth They are searching for the all spark and the war on earth heats up as the decepticons attack a united states military base Sam i'm sorry. I can't read sam and mackayla are taken to the top secret agency sector seven to help stop the decepticons But when they learn the agency also intends to destroy the autobots they formulate their own plan to save the world This is the longest plot synopsis. I've ever read in my life ever I guess that's fair because it's almost a two and a half hour movie about transformers punching each other Transformers And speaking of sound effects Gosh, they're good in these movies. The sound design in transformers is top tier. It's peak What the matrix movies did for the visual fighting style with bullet time slow motion kung fu The uh transformers did for sound design Kind of like the star wars prequels or the pod racing that Transformers took that to like a level. Uh, they took it to a level 100 I love doing podcasts alone. I stumble on my words. It's great. Let's keep going trivia time According to megan fox She was attending a linkin park concert And when it was over the band met her personally and stated that they heard about the live action transformers film And requested whether they could have a song of theirs in the film and thus What I've done Appears in the closing credits That is a jam too Mm That is a great song and I love that megan fox is the one that brought linkin park to the table Loving her more right now really loving her more right now. Thanks, mackayla I'll never forget your name again or until I do inevitably when I talk about this next movie on the list Here's the thing transformers one. I like it a lot I haven't seen it in a few years, but I know I still like it a lot watch that one I believe it I was in las vegas at the time with my wife We were probably freshly married newlyweds and The movie was playing Like on the strip at one of the theaters. We were just we were just in vegas We lived in arizona at the time. So we were only a couple hours from vegas. It was sweet You do, um, you know three four hour drive. You're there You look at the you look at the casinos you look at the wealthy successful people And you just kind of live a day in their shoes without spending any money of your own because you're poor We went to the movie and had a blast. She loved it. I loved it And we were excited for the sequel A sequel that would unfortunately Really sully the first film's reputation And from there things would only get worse in my humblest of opinions But this first movie Had state-of-the-art visuals state-of-the-art sound design this massive scale to it And I know a lot of people didn't like this I dug the shaky cam point of view from the human aspect of it Where it was just a cavalcade of destruction and vehicles smashing into each other You couldn't make heads or tails of what robot was what robot But it was so frantic and so in your face with the explosions and the noises I couldn't help but just want more And of course you had some of the most blatantly terrible product placement ever My favorite was when the all-spark was like going loose and wild with it And everything it touched would turn into a robot so a laptop with clear branding turns into one a mountain dew machine Is shooting out mountain dew cans I think sam at one point grabs one Pops it open a glig glig glig glig glig thanks mountain dew Optimus Maybe that doesn't happen, but he yells optimus and bumblebee a hell of a lot And no one does it quite like him and no one will ever again Especially as the sequels start to unspool But yes the first transformers big fan of this one It was a great start to what would inevitably be a massive new franchise for universal Is it universal it's universal right paramount or universal I get i'm confused to be honest with you I think earlier I it's paramount. Okay paramount Let's move on to transformers revenge of the fallen aka transformers 2 the first film came out in 2007 two years later Which is of course 2009 I did the math for you. We have a sequel two hours and just shy of 30 minutes 229 it's bigger. It's longer. It's badder meaning worse. This movie is a shit show I understand not a lot made sense in the first movie But holy hell we are completely off the rails in this one. Let's go to the synopsis from imdb A youth chooses manhood The week sam whit wiki starts college the decepticons make trouble in shanghai a presidential envoy believes It's because the Autobots are around. He wants them gone. He's wrong The decepticons need access to sam's mind to see some glyphs imprinted there that will lead them to a fragile object That when inserted into an alien machine hidden in egypt for centuries will give them the power to blow out the sun Sam and his girlfriend mackayla veins and sam's parents are in danger Optimus prime and bumblebee are sam's principal protectors if one of them if one of them goes down What becomes of sam? My god And that's like not even half of what's happening in this movie at one point a decepticon Disguises itself as a hot blonde college chick who seduces sam back to her room And is getting undressed and making out with him before revealing it like why take it that far you have him in the room Why start the seduction angle? Why get him on the bed? It was so bizarre and there's a lot of of bad in this film What it has good though Is we have the primary cast back sam whit wiki and mackayla I remember the name promises made promises kept or something bumblebee optimus the whole cruise here It's still a fun time. You got josh du mel in the mix. I think tiris is in the first three We got a fast and the furious crossover character. It's too bad. These are these both paramount That's universal. I think it would be nice if we could get that fast and the furious transformers crossover movie It really would be nice It's probably not going to happen though Regardless, this thing sucks. It was a massive step down But the steps would keep going down further and you would just tumble with them And that's where we get to transformers three. But before we do, let me talk about some trivia here. Let me throw some at you John tutorial Was allowed to climb the pyramids during filming in egypt at one point He simply broke down crying when michael bait questioned him. He said you just don't get to do this in movies You don't get to shoot in a place that's 4 000 years old Can you imagine? I picture him Yeah, tutorial a solid actor Really really on top of his craft probably spiritually connected and all that crap Crying at the pyramids really appreciating the beauty and the splendor and the history And then michael bay is just this total bro chad guy coming over like tutorial. What are you doing get up? We're gonna blow this shit in a second tutorials like you just don't get to do this You don't you understand michael and michael bay doesn't give a fuck He's like, how do I make megan fox look hot? Can I lean around the pyramid? Will that be sexier than a car? Let's try it I'm gonna have a wrecking ball go up this thing This this giant devastating robot and we're gonna dangle giant balls from him that are gonna look like a male's balls It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be freaking great Let's go tutorial get up Another see another funny piece of trivia the college scenes were shot at both the university of pennsylvania and the princeton university However, neither school is named in the film as both schools felt that the judy whitwicky scenes were damaging to their image If you don't remember judy whitwicky gets her hands on some brownies that are freshly made and Potent if you will so she gets drugged out of her mind Uh really on a high starting to start starting to hump things wanting to make out with her husband The little dumb robots are there. They're they're going off on mackaya humping her leg It's it's a whole thing and it takes place on this campus. So I can understand why maybe that's not the badge of honor They want to put their name on Speaking of badges of honor, we have skids and mudflaps in this movie Some of the most embarrassing characters ever put to the screen not since the black crows in dumbo have uh, Have the black community been so poorly represented Skin and mudflaps are just so atrociously bad. They're like damn We're the we're the bad guys here. What are we gonna do? We're gonna kill these mothers. We're gonna kill these suckers It's so embarrassing and this goes on the whole film Michael bay would go on in the next movie to say yeah, they're not in this If you can find them in this I'll cut you a check for $25,000 his words The reason this movie is also such a hot mess is I believe which we're sitting through right now A writer strike was going on and bay didn't want to wait on production for the script to be completed Before he started filming this thing. He's like, ah, we'll fix it in post Let's have optimist drop down on a highway at night start killing shit We'll blow some stuff up and we'll we'll write it off later And that's what they did And that's why we have the movie we have Let's jump forward to 2011 Transformers dark of the moon. Even the name is stupid dark of the moon. What does that even mean? It means this movie's two hours and 34 minutes. We keep getting longer We keep getting dumber shy is back But not mackaya Megan fox Hit the hit the sticks hit the bricks. I guess she pissed off Michael bay Something she said off camera or I guess it was on camera probably in interviews about him being a nazi or something That was his direction. That's how he handled his actors Michael bay is notoriously tough to work with as a director He's yelling at the top of his lungs like he's playing a round of call of duty with the boys Because he kind of is there is stuff blowing up all the time He has to keep command. He has to keep people safe I don't know what he's like though as an individual. It's very possible. He's a total garbage person I just don't know Megan fox seems a little sketchy at best as well Regardless, they didn't get along You don't bite the hand that feeds Megan. She's kicked off only later to return to the Ninja turtles movies that he produced. So maybe they patched things up somewhere down the line And he's like, hey, I'll give you a bone. You can go into these movies. I'm producing them Now we have rosy huntington white lee or wheat lee. I don't I don't know who this person is I don't care to know who this person is. She sucks in the movie really badly fox was missed Josh de malls back Or josh de mal tyreese is back. They've been at all three so far We're gonna keep doing their war war stuff. Whatever they are their soldiers Did I not get the Transformers? Oh, yeah, there is a oh my gosh. I didn't get the plot for transformers Dark of the moon or dark of the yeah, that's what it's called transformers Dark of the moon plot IMDB, let me just let me just bring this up really quickly since I screwed the pooch in the notes And we're just gonna head on down to the snop Here we are Storyline Autobots bumblebee ratchet iron hide mirage aka dino wheel jack aka q or q Way, I don't know that and side swipe led by optimus prime are back in action taking on the evil decepticons Who are eager to avenge their recent defeat? The autobots and decepticons become involved in a perilous space race between the united states and russia to reach a hidden Cybertronian spacecraft on the moon and learn of its secrets and once again Sam wittweke has to go to the aid of his robot friends The new villain shockwave is on the scene while the autobots and decepticons continue to battle it out on earth I don't remember any of that happening. I remember the moon stuff and thinking what? Why? Here's some trivia for you According to michael bay 532 vehicles were destroyed in the film They were given away by an insurance company at no charge as all of them were flood damaged That old scam Nice, so i'm glad they were put to good use the driller Which is this epic Decepticon that rips through buildings that now I remember this is the one that's shot like an avengers film And I think they came out around the same time And it was bizarre because they both looked identical There's buildings getting ripped to shreds and this driller is freaking epic It's just eating these buildings going through them like wormholes Anyway, this thing is composed of 70 000 pieces It required industrial light and magic to use up its entire render farm and took 122 hours per frame 288 hours in the driller's attack on the skyscraper That is insanity The amount of rendering the amount of processing time for just that one section of the film It is truly a spectacle though and that's one thing about these bayformers They really are larger than life spectacles and you do have to appreciate the craft as far as the action goes And and the cinematography is pretty damn cool Even if it does have the michael bay stank to it Low camera shots in a 360 circle slow motion person standing up shots looking up at the sky It's very corny But you have linkin park in the mix That helps for sure It helps for sure this movie Just honestly, they're all pretty bad outside of the first one still watchable here Some people say this one's better than two Maybe I just don't really care about it. It had some cooler stuff in it for sure It's less of a shit show for sure, but I didn't like the new characters. I missed fox I missed that chemistry. So all this stuff outside of the action was just miserable Where are we at? Are we at age of extinction now? I think so Okay, Transformers age of extinction the fourth movie in the Transformers saga this one clocks in at two hours and 45 minutes for a hasbro toy line Gosh 2014 We lost everyone R.I.P Five years have gone by no more Whitwicky No more, uh, I don't think we even have the army guys. I don't think josh de mails in this one. I don't think uh, tyrese is in this one Yeah, instead we have newcomers mark wallberg as kade yeager. Yes. His name is kade yeager Nicola or nicola nicola pelts beck Beckham. Is she related to victoria beckham? She has to be nicola pelts beckham. Okay, whatever tj miller stanley tucci and kelsie grammar Here's the synopsis for five years after the decepticon invasion of chicago The autobots were granted sanctuary into the earth Believing they are a threat They were secretly eliminated by an elite cia unit with the help of a transformer bounty hunter lockdown Because of this optimus has since lost faith in humanity after the ambush that caused his injury and even considers leaving the plant Wow, i'm reading too fast. Hang on. Hang on because of this Optimus has since lost his faith in humanity After the ambush that causes injury Okay, i'm sorry. This is just written so terribly that i'm gonna have to kind of fix it It wasn't that i was reading too fast. It's that this doesn't make any sense Optimus gets injured He loses his faith in humanity and he goes into hiding In in kade jegar's barn kade jegar is a mechanic and he's And he convinces optimus to restore his faith in humanity after he helps him recover There's a scene that we've seen in the trailers where kades in there and he's like, oh, I think I just found a transformer I think I think this is a transformer and it is it was it was optimus Together with his family, they joined the otobots to exterminate the bounty hunter and reincarnated megatron in the form of galvatron Of course and the cemetery. Oh my god, and the cemetery wind Which is an elite cia cia unit tasked with killing transformers What is happening? This is insanity the reincarnated megan megatron megan megan trons in this one Megan fox is back as megan tron The reincarnated megatron is now galvatron And the cia elite task force is called cemetery wind Wow This is a two hour and 45 minute movie folks I hate this film. It's really bad They replaced a mountain dew machine at one point with a budweiser canon Kale Yeager definitely drinks from this thing too. He pops one of the bottles I think he transforms himself The budweiser made me stronger No, that didn't happen, but it might as well have this is the one that has dinosaurs in it I think this is the dinosaur one People were excited about I was kind of excited about that seeing the robot t-rex running around Optimus jumps on his back at one point Yeah, here's some trivia TJ miller reportedly did not get along well with director michael bay during the course of filming Miller compared it to a very bipolar experience working with bay who once told miller on set Nothing that you've said is funny tj not one thing all day. We hired you to be funny There's 300 people here. None of them are laughing at you say something funny I can still cut you out of the movie God I heard tj miller is kind of garbage. So that would be hilarious to have seen TJ miller's been ousted from hollywood altogether Originally michael bay was not going to direct a fourth transformers movie But he had an experience that changed his mind And no jesus didn't come to him in the form of an Autobot what happened was after transformers dark of the moon Bay finally got to visit the transformers ride at universal studios Upon seeing fans waiting three blocks for the attraction. He realized he was not ready to leave the franchise yet That's honestly awesome That's not right is awesome. By the way, it's a cool ride Michael bay should be proud. He did make some kick-ass films Even if they're completely stupid the first one legit pretty awesome And the rather it's kind of like Jurassic park. You know transformers isn't on the level of Jurassic park one But Jurassic park is such a good movie It's it's really just perfect for me that all the ones after I don't they're just like their own thing. We have Jurassic park. It's fine. It's great. It's a standalone Everything else is just some icing on the cake even if it's terrible You get you still get dinosaurs. You still get action. That's how transformers are to me You got one great transformers movie everything else is a saturday morning cartoon that occasionally has a good episode Speaking of episodes of transformers Here's one that's not good and that's the final one for michael bay. He goes out on the lowest note humanly possible Transformers the last night 2017 runtime two hours and 34 minutes. He actually scaled back like 10 minutes on this one It's still so long. Why are these over two hours? Here's the sin. Oh, I gotta give you the we got mark walberg's back Now we have isabel isabella mersaid mersay. I think as isabella mersay. I'm terrible with names She is dora the explorer In that in that movie that no one saw she's been another things cute little actress We have anthony hopkins. We got josh du mel's back josh du mel's back And stanley tucci who was in the previous film as well. Here's the synopsis I mean, I might have to like brace myself before I read this thing. Let me take a deep breath We've been running hot Okay In 484 ad. Jesus I don't know if I can do this king arthur played by liam garrigan And his knights fight a losing battle against the saxons elsewhere merlin Stanley tucci approaches the knights of ia con Or icon. Oh my god a group of transformers hiding on earth to help win the war They hand him an alien staff jesus before transforming together into dragon storm and turn the tide of the battle But war and more. Oh my god But war and merlin that a great evil will come for the staff in the present Meaning present time a year after the hong kong uprising Optimus prime crash lands on cybertron and meets his alleged creator quintessa She blames him for cybertron's destruction and brainwashes him into helping gain merlin's staff Which can absorb earth's energy to restore Cybertron Optimus is renamed nemesis prime Earth is revealed to be the slumbering Unicron the ancient enemy of cybertron and whose horns are emerging across the planet. What? What? There's no way a human wrote this AI has been around longer than we think there is no way a human wrote this. This is chat gtp Holy crap This movie is so bad Genuinely a bad movie not a fun watch. It's almost impossible to sit through. It's long. It's a slog The action so played out and boring. Yes, it still looks very nice. Yes, it still has a bloated budget But no one seems to care at all about what's going on and I just gave you Crumbs as far as the plot goes. These are scraps of the plot If you can keep up with it. Good luck Here's some trivia Tyrese Gibson was set to return as robert apse But he was unable to appear in this movie due to a scheduling conflict Because he was in the fate of the furious that was filming at the same time Imagine being tyrese gibson and you are involved in two of the dumbest movie franchises of all time He's made stupid money on these awfully dumb movies like Tyrese Gibson's house is filled with transformers and fast and the furious posters That's incredible That's what I picture. I picture the hall of shame At tyrese's crib and he goes down this really long hallway and the lights go on kakush kakush kakush And on every side there's just transformers fast and the furious transformers fast and the furious just down the line Oh man, that's amazing. Here's another here's another fact for you another fun fact Michael bay originally wanted to pass on directing this movie But was persuaded to do one more by peter cullen peter cullen said one more ride He can't do his voice. No one can but peter and peter probably should have um Not said that Yeah, that's transformers the last night. I just remember he has a sword in it And I think the dinosaurs are back for some reason Who cares? Now we slow things way down I don't think I oh, I don't think I put the date on this one. Let's get the date on this first Let's get this all wrapped up in a bow for you We're talking bumblebee. Okay 2018. How long after that was the last one? 2017 was the last night not even a year later. Okay. Wow. That seems off One hour and 54 minutes. This is the first transformers movie to finally be under two hours Amazing It's directed by travis night who previously did kubo and the two strings I didn't see that movie. I heard it was really good. Didn't see it First movie michael bay didn't direct in the series and it's a prequel And I guess a soft reboot because we've now learned that the new movie Transformers rise of the beast is a sequel to bumblebee but not a prequel to the michael bay movies How confusing but who cares it's transformers. They they don't care This one's a fresh cast since it takes place way earlier. We have hailey steinfeld spider gwen herself is in this john sena jason drucker and george lendeborg jr. I'm sure I said that name wrong, but we're trying our best Here's the synopsis on cybertron the autobots led by optimus prime on the verge of losing the great after It was in the great after Is that a thing? Okay being defeated by the decepticons in the war on cybertron The autobot leader optimus prime sends b127 aka bumblebee to earth to establish an outpost and protect earth b127 surprises the training of a group of soldiers under the command of colonel jack burns and escapes However, he is ambushed by a decepticon that damages his memory core and voice box As happened time and time again with bumblebee the guy can never just talk in any of these movies But b127 defeats the enemy and transforms into a yellow 1967 volkswagen beetle In 1987 the 18 year old charlie watson finds the beetle in a junkyard and the owner hank gives the car to her The teenager is a great mechanic that misses her father and lives with her young brother and her estranged mother and her boyfriend My god, why is this so long charlie accidentally activates a signal and the decepticons track down b127 on earth Two decepticons head for earth to capture and destroy the autobot convincing dr. Powell And the army that they are a peaceful Enemy I lost myself dr. Powell and the army that they are peaceful and the enemy is a dangerous robot Meanwhile charlie befriends b127 and calls him bumblebee wow Probably didn't need to read all that Clearly I couldn't read all that I like bumblebee. It's a smaller film smaller scale smaller budget Smaller everything really bumblebee is the centralized character. There's a couple transformers here and there The beginning of this movie is fantastic. It has this epic war on cybertron It's like a 10 minute fan fan fiction gone, right Everybody likes this movie. I think I don't know anybody that doesn't I don't think it's as good as the michael bay first film, but I would definitely put it in the top We'll get to that in a second though. Here's some trivia Peter cullen the voice of optimus is the only cast member to appear in every theatrically released transformers film And he's going to be in the new one He had voiced the character in the transformers the movie in 1986 and reprised the role in the live action films including this one This is a funner fact a more fun fact Peter cullen revealed at a convention In 2020 that he didn't partially enjoy. I'm sorry particularly. He didn't particularly enjoy working on this film This is because the studio decided to use a different voice actor during production So they wouldn't have to pay cullen for multiple recording sessions. That's really shitty And only brought him in at the very end to record all the lines as such Cullen had to match the other actor's performance since the animation for optimus prime had already been completed and couldn't be Altered that's really crappy With a budget of 102 to 128 million somewhere in the ballpark This is the least expensive transformers movie to date Despite being the lowest grossing transformers film in the series with the worldwide gross of 468 million It was still considered a box office success following the failure failure Yes, because movies you have to double their budget and some usually it's two and a half times So if the movie costs a hundred million you you put it to around it needs to make 20 2,500, 2,500 million That's a great great way to say that And it made 468 so it's well on its way very much a success Oh And the last thing the last one was a failure Transformers the last night only it lost 100 million. I think I said that earlier, but we're back to it 100 million dollar loss Made up by the ride, of course Here's some q&a for you. I just a couple I asked people on youtube if they had any transformers related questions Just before I went live Edward Hall asks if you had to pick another director to helm a transformers movie, who would you pick and why? You know as much grief as we give Michael Bay. I think he did a damn good job I think the big problem is the scripts the writing in these movies is atrocious They should have kept it simpler the scale got way out of hand way too early Saving the world saving the trip the Autobots every single time is boring And so yeah by the fifth one we find ourselves with merlin and magical staffs because we've done everything else Right how much bigger do you go? And now this new one's got unicorn Which is a planet eating transformer who is already established as earth in transformers 5 That's why they're retconning that whole thing and that's the biggest transformer around it eats planets So if this is a trilogy they better damn well keep Unicron alive for it and i'm guessing they do i'm guessing he's the Thanos of the transformers world I think spielberg not producing and maybe directing would have been great Spielberg seems like the right kind of guy to handle this type of movie. He would have made it a little bit more magical. I think a little less Dude bro Would have been very fun to see one more question from chatman reviews. Which movie should they have stopped at? Yeah, um if we were to halloween this thing Where you you basically the first one exists, but then you take it from two on that's what i would do I would say scrap everything past the first movie and go from there So yeah, they should have they should have stopped after one I would have stopped after one. Let me look one more time and make sure there's no more questions I got one more Uh, I don't know how to say the name oteo. Why do you hate the g1 designs? I always wondered that having starscream shoot prime with megatron would have been epic plus tapes Why do they oh i'm sorry? Why do they hate the cgi designs? Yeah, that makes more sense. I'm like, I don't hate the the og designs I agree. I don't know why and when he says plus tapes. I think he means um star star screams shoots the tapes out of the tape player Or is that sound that's sound wave Do you say sounds great? So that sound wave does that Regardless, I don't know why they hate the original designs, but it looks like with this new one They're going back to it, which is great. It's about time It's about time Let's rank these things really quick I didn't even need to write them down because I know off the top of my head The the last one is the last night. That's the worst film in this franchise easily I would then just go in reverse order to be honest with you Last night and then we moved to age of extinction And from there we just head right on up to dark of the moon And after dark of the moon we go right into What's that one called revenge of the fallen? That's going to be in the third spot in second place for the second best transformers movie is bumblebee And then we do the bay former the 2007 one that started it all michael bay's opus Transformers simple elegant Simply transformers So you have it transformers in the number one bumblebee in the number two And then the rest I don't really care revenge of the fallen dark of the moon You can switch them if you want makes no difference But I think most people would agree with the top three on the list or at least the top two I think they're both universally acceptable And I think that uh We did this in a decent amount of time. I don't want to waste any more of it. We all have plans We all have things we have to do with our lives. So those are my thoughts on transformers a very messy franchise Still fun. You can still watch a lot of them. It sucks that they're so long And that's kind of where i'm at with fast and the furious I totally get why people like them. They're super large scale Hundreds of millions of dollars blowing up on screen But I do like to have a somewhat plausible or at least competent story behind it Otherwise, you're just really watching cutscene after cutscene from a video game wondering does any of this tie together Do I care about anything outside of boom boom explosions? Give it to me give me something and I'm hoping rise of the beast does that Give me some emotional drama. Give me some stakes. Give me some characters. I can enjoy again We'll see I want to hear from you though if you're watching on youtube You can throw a comment. What do you think of the transformers movies? Please rank them if you want If you're not on spotify or on apple podcast, this is going live there first It goes up in the mornings at 8 a.m Every monday. So and I do these live watch alongs at 8 p.m. So, you know, whatever you want to do is fine I appreciate it. You can also follow me there. You can follow me on youtube. 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Well, I didn't promise but I said I was going to talk about the disney 3d animated movies or the pixar 3d animated movies I'm saving it because elemental is right around the corner I want to capitalize on that momentum and we'll talk about it then It just makes sense Okay, that's the show. I'll see you next time. Take care