 Thank you and good morning colleagues. Good morning colleagues, we are here to give solidarity to one and only Munizuru. He's been detained here since yesterday for unknown reasons. And we are very grateful to the UPND government for this gesture. Because we've told them that they cannot host a democratic conference because they are credentials as UPND. They are far much below than anybody who is able to host a democratic conference. These ones are very simple. Number one, a whistleblower can never be detained. A whistleblower must be asked to help with investigations and must be asked to provide extra information. Lo and behold, the best they can do is detain Munizuru. I want to appeal to all those who attend the democratic conference to say I think we are in the wrong place for the democratic conference. President Haka'in the Hitchlema does not believe in democracy. President Haka'in the Hitchlema is a hypocrite. It's not possible. We are hosting a big conference of this nature. You do not want people to pick it. You do not want people to demonstrate. People are allowed to go out in their numbers to pick it and to demonstrate. Lo and behold, it's not happening here. We saw Jack Mungu yesterday. I don't know what he was talking about. Whether he was totally drunk as usual. So I have no clue what he was talking about. Because he has got no understanding for him to talk about democratic governance. When you are stopping people from demonstrating. Because demonstrations are part and parcel of democratic governance. So I want to appeal to all those who have come for the so-called democratic conference to say you are here for a comic show and there is nothing that will come out of there because our democratic... Is Zambia being above one of the top ten countries? Is Zambia being in the top ten of real democratic nations? And this so-called democratic conference being co-hosted by the Netherlands, South Korea, Costa Rica and the Netherlands and the U.S. Are you sure those are the right countries to co-host a democratic conference? The answer is no. We want to appeal to Kamala Harris as she comes to Zambia to come and visit Munir Zulu. And we want the police to keep Munir Zulu in the cells until Kamala Harris arrives. I want to appeal to the police. IG, you are listening. Can you keep Munir Zulu in the cells so that we invite Kamala Harris to come and visit to come and see what HLMA is doing to his opponents? Thank you. I will invite Mr. Nakachinda to say a few words. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. We are here this morning to register the validation of our continued expression to the Zambian people that Miss HLMA and the UPND are not committed to a genuine fight against corruption. If Miss HLMA was committed to a genuine fight against corruption, we would not have Munir Zulu detained. The gentleman detained is a member of parliament. The gentleman detained is a sectarian of APNAC as it has been said. An organization that looks at issues of corruption. And last week, as a whistleblower, he raised issues against two cabinet ministers. What was expected of the president was to subject Musoko Twani and Milupi to an investigation. And if those investigations clear them, they will have possibly at personal level recourse either to a two honorable Munir for defamation. But to have the president first of all react by clearing his ministers before investigations and order for the arrest of a member of parliament, the sectarian of APNAC, it only goes to show that we have a turncourt in state house who blows hot and cold. He says he's committed a fight against corruption when in fact he's harboring corrupt elements around him and in his cabinet. Like the sectarian said, we want if at all the vice president of America lectures in Africa about the fight against corruption, if they are committed to the fight against corruption, let the vice president come and interact with this whistleblower, the member of parliament for Lumezi Constituents. We are going to remain here, we will stand and stay with you not only here because we are aware that they want to move from this place to another place. It doesn't matter where you take Munir Azulu even at community house where we come. Even in Wengua we are coming because as far as we are concerned, this is unacceptable. This nonsense should not happen. The democratic summit that is being held Mr. Akain Daitrema want to render himself based on the legacy of Chiluba, the legacy of Manawasa, the legacy of Rupia Banda, the legacy of Michael Sandat Erga Chagwalungu who were committed to democratic tenets. He as a dictator wants to ride on Legas and try and launder himself and suggest that he is democratic. This is a dictator who is a tribalist and he has demonstrated in all his actions that he is not going to advance democratic tenets in this country. But this dictator should be seen in the detention of opposition MPs and opposition leaders. But we are going to fight until we stop his antics. Thank you very much and God bless. What are we have done? Honourable Minister for the MP for Chiluba. Remember he co-hosted the press conference in which the strong allegations were made against the two cabinet ministers. Honourable Minister. Thank you so much. I think we are shocked that things are going up to here. I don't know why we are suffocating all these places for democracy when we are talking about a democratic summit. I think the president should realise that according to the powers given to him in Atcona Internet in 1991 and 1992 he needs to be above board. We know that through SI 1123 we have transferred the power we have transferred the reporting system to his office of SEC, DEC and other investigating agents. But when that has been done I think the president will know that he is stage manager, the environment so that it only suits him. And I think this kind of governance is not what he promised the examiners. This kind of governance is not what is happening because what he promised the examiners and what is happening at parallel. Now given these bad credentials as it may be is that the president in the first place doesn't even qualify to be the cost on behalf of 16 African countries of this summit because even when they are talking about free and fair elections we know that in their objectives they have put transparency, accountability and right to respecting governance. So if this has to be with the governance they are promoting is to do with transparency and accountability what we expected is that the president would have allowed the ministers to be investigated would have allowed the SEC to come in but because possibly there is some fish smelling somewhere a rotten fish for that matter he has taken on a defence to defend the ministers because what we are simply doing on that press conference which I was proudly part of is whistle blowing and I think where we have come is that in case they think by arresting Munia we are far from intimidation actually this friend is just starting we are able to finish to the final point but we will not be the last ones to cry they will cry last and that should be done Thank you all I invite our Honourable Binu Ampundu our independent member of parliament from Incarna and you have scammed here last night thank you for your support too your colleague Godrebo, Munia Zunum just express your thoughts about the arrest and detention is that he is a member of parliament and you are Secretary General from one of the strong land corruption bodies in parliament first of all, thank you so much colleagues in the media Honourable Munia Zulu is one of us he is an independent member of parliament and also an independent member of parliament from Kitwe you also wish to note that Honourable Munia Zulu is our Secretary General in Apnak I am the treasurer in Apnak and so for us this is an affront to democracy and we want to call it but look this is a very simple matter I would like to put it this way Honourable Munia Zulu has made reparations if you like it as alleged that certain ministers who we have named have been involved in corruption I think the law is very clear for us our demands are very simple the law must be respected if a whistleblower comes up the institutions that are mandated to under such matters must do the right thing you are aware that yesterday Honourable Munia was ambushed even when police had called him to appear before them today so it's very ironic that you call somebody to appear before you today you ambush him the previous day this is what we find bogus in the operation of the police for me I think that this is deliberately to drill us from real issues Ladies and gentlemen real issues are many in this country I have been talking about Sujilite Sujilite is capable of paying our debt instead of us going to the IMF we could have gone to mind Sujilite those are issues that we must be preoccupied with as a country and not this diversion that we are being subjected to today so my amboa plea I think I have been making on my several postings on Facebook if Honourable Musokotwani and Honourable Milupi are agreed with their sessions that were made by Honourable Munia the recourse is very simple they must go to court in court and this is very simple in court if the information that is going to be provided by Honourable Munia is forced then they can invoke the other channels by seeking criminal prosecution for libel if you like it you cannot start criminal prosecution for libel if you haven't seen the strength of the evidence that Honourable Munia has but we want to make it very clear I have seen in many whatsapp group people ranting about Munia providing evidence Munia will not provide evidence on social media their channels the law of evidence is very clear at the right and opportune time Honourable Munia will be made to provide evidence and I think that the media you are very aware of how we want to proceed with this matter Honourable Munia Zulu has asked the GPP to give him leave to prosecute this matter because it doesn't have confidence in the system that is provided for in the law there is no argument to it so if the two agreed party are innocent let them allow for the prosecution then we can ascertain who is right and who is not right to use the police to intimidate it will not be accepted but for us an injustice to one of us is an injustice to all of us and we will not stand aside to allow injustice being committed on our fellow members of parliament not even a member of the public because our role as members of parliament is to protect the constitution and to defend the rights of citizens thank you so much thank you so much thank you thank you so much thank you very much I have here a victim where his seat was stolen as contained by the constitution of court democratic values independence of elections was uprooted and he is a victim together with Honourable Joe Malangi your dear brother Honourable Munia Zulu is here and he has been detained what are your thoughts thank you very much thank you for me I am very shocked and surprised that Honourable Munia Zulu was arrested yesterday for allegation of telling the public that Honourable Shobotwani and Honourable Minister of Infrastructure got some cuts in the deal of Lusaka in the dollar due correct way I am a victim of investigation you know that I am passing a lot of charges through SEC there is no one who reported me no one reported me SEC arrested me and they took me to court for me to prove those allegations which SEC write against me the thing which Munia Zulu did the only thing which was supposed to be done is the investigative wing let them investigate the two ministers and at the end of the day if those two ministers are innocent they have the right to take this matter to court at this juncture this matter is not a matter for police this is not a matter for the police to start arresting and harassing Honourable Munia Zulu let this matter be investigated and after the investigation if we prove that Lusaka Tawane and Imilupi they are innocent they have the right as citizens of this country to pursue this matter to the courts to the courts of law but what we are seeing the president in the first place you remember what he did to Honourable Kakubo when Honourable Kakubo brought a parcel from SNOMA cement the president said I called Honourable Kakubo and Honourable Kakubo told me that those were just calendars and the president created Honourable Kakubo there and then and this is the same thing which the president has done on his two ministers where I said take Munia Zulu to court the president should not involve himself in this matters it's supposed to be above this thing the minister for Lusaka province the deck he requested president Edda Lungu to investigate me and president Edda Lungu gave the deck the leeway to investigate me as a sitting minister I was investigated by the draft enforcement commission so we are very shocked that today the ministers for Mr. Harka in the Ichiba they are being protected by the president himself who told us that he is going to fight corruption we are being very new that the fight against corruption in Zambia it's not a genuine fight against corruption because the president's fight against corruption is on people he knows that tomorrow they will get power from him he is political opponent but where we are now the people of Zambia say and president he is a borrowed power he is a borrowed power from the people of Zambia 2026 is coming and the people of Zambia we are going to do the right thing but we are not going to sleep we want justice to prevail we want the rule of law to be respected we want the constitution of this country thank you very much thank you very much as we wind up let's just reflect on this summit the summit is being held on main key pillars one of them is to promote democracy and the rule of law the other pillar is to fight corruption the other pillar is to promote human rights and the case of WMZ shows that we are abrogating all those principles the other pillar is to promote human rights and the case of WMZ that we are abrogating all those principles as stated earlier by all speakers WMZ is a whistleblower and the law provides for the whistleblower to be protected in fact under the anti-corruption commission act of 2012 the whistleblower must be protected not be arrested as we've seen in this case we are holding this summit and we are receiving a very senior guest the US vice president Honorable Kamala Harris how can you even now perpetuate these kinds over France to democracy to the rule of law I think this is a serious matter in normal circumstances the law enforcement agencies must have written to the president to state that there are these strong allegations against your two key ministers and the president then should find either to suspend them or either to authorize the investigations not to arrest the person who is blowing the whistle whether the credibility of Honorable Munia Zulu's allegations are not strong or not we cannot tell at this stage but what we can tell is that there are strong allegations against two key ministers and that should be attended to so as we host this summit that we are crying about that we are stating that should not occur and they are taking away from the issue of democracy itself and the summit so as we welcome our guests from wherever they are coming for this summit we will need to remind them that these are France against democracy Zambia is hosting on co-host day a very key issue on the panel that day Zabia will be discussing the transparency of elections especially that we are coming from the 2021 elections but look at the case of Honorable Boman Lusambu and Honorable Malanji and what the constitution of court stated clearly their seats were stolen they were not allowed to participate in elections they were prevented from participating in elections and the constitution of court the highest court in our land so where is our democracy and so we will wait there are more MPs that are coming in case we need to speak to you we will let you about it thank you very much I forgot about our youth our youth yes yes our youth colleagues the youth should have a voice you have a voice why you parking what is happening in Zambia now is an abomination is an abomination but we are very disappointed we are very disappointed and we just want to remind the presidents also to arrest the high cost of living the Zambian people now they can't afford now three meals per day and again we are very disappointed in the sense that criminals within the UPND have been protected by the president and the Zambian youth from 720 to be invested by the SCC and the DDC with immediate effect so we have to remind the president also to arrest the high cost of living within 24 hours that is very good so we are going to continue we have to arrest the president horrible bill we have to hear his acting as acting president  Oo oun oun ile  e  komite  krim  nol  l                    n but less than three years ago, the PF government ministers were subject of all sorts of innuendo from many people. You will recall that I myself was called corrupt by a number of people. What should I take? As minister I did not go to the president to say arrest these people for calling me corrupt. Instead I went to court to go and challenge those people calling me corrupt. And you know the story of my brother Cherefiatayad. We went to court and did not have him arrested. You don't arrest a person who has made an allegation against an individual. Otherwise all prisons will be full on a daily basis. He calls us thieves. Isn't that criminal liable? Is he above the law? Is there any difference between minister Milupi and minister Musokotwane and the former minister Nakachimbo? Is there any difference between those two and the former minister? When the former ministers were being called thieves by Haga Indi himself when he was president of the opposition. How come you are not arrested? This shows you what I've always said. Watch the space. Zambia is denigrating into anarchy. Soon and very soon none of you will be able to sell anything even just raising a finger against the UPND government who calls you to go into prison. So I would like to appeal to all Zambians to brace yourselves for more difficult times to come. Remember also it is darkest before dawn. This was a God sent to Zambians for Zambians to realize that not everything that glitters is gold. Haga Indi postured as an angel. He said he was coming to make sure that he introduces democracy in Zambia as though Zambia was a dictatorship. What are you seeing now? A reversal of every democratic credential we have. Make matters worse. You recall how they were celebrating when they said they amended the Pino Code to remove the offence of defamation of president. Now if they remove the defamation of president offence how come they have even lowered the standard now that even a minister being alleged to be corrupt causes one to be arrested? What kind of hypocrisy is that? Are you sure that you can go scot free and say anything against Haga Indi? If saying something against his minister leads you in prison what about if you open your mouth against Haga Indi? You shall be slaughtered. So my dear friends, I would like to appeal to all Zambians. Be prepared. The times are going to get even harder before they get better. But this is exactly what we told the Zambians before the 2021 elections that these fellows are running around posturing and yet they are the opposite of what they want people to believe. They wanted us to believe that they are democrats but we knew that they cannot be democrats at all. They are real dictators. And like my colleague said earlier we are not going to be cowed by minister of home affairs and internal security who says that during the period of the democratic democracy summit there must be law and order in the country. We have always been ordered. Here we are being ordered. We are also going to follow that summit and make sure that there are the participants in the summit know that there is no democracy to talk about in this country. There is none whatsoever. However I want to end by reiterating what I said the journey that Munia Zulu has embarked on the journey that he has joined is the journey for all of us Zambians. So let us pray for Munia Zulu let us pray for his strength and let us support him. We would like Munia Zulu to get out of there so he can prepare himself if they want to take him to court let them take him to court quickly. There is no reason whatsoever to detain a member of parliament. We remember that over the ten years of the PF government not at any time did any member of parliament go in the cells except when they were alleged to have committed murder. There were many members of parliament who said things that were inimical to the interests of the government but not a single day did they spend any night in the cells except for those who are alleged to have committed murder. Those are the ones who spent nights in the cells. Now for a member of parliament to even just raise a question and say are these people clean I have information that these people are dead that leads a person to spend nights in the cells. If members of parliament cannot be respected representatives of the people the person that spent the night there is not only Munia it is all the people of the men's they spent the night in the cell because of the and this government the whole of the constituency is in that cell how can you govern a country in such a fashion you even want to intimidate members of parliament if members of parliament are intimidated from speaking who shall speak for us God forbid thank you God because he has given you zambians he has given the world an opportunity to compare and contrast this is God given people can now relate to what the fear was and what the UPND is maybe just before you go just to clarity we heard from the leader of the opposition in parliament who said that you go ahead to protest if Munia is not released are you still going ahead with so as a rider to that I think let's use the opportunity let's take our position on the issue this summit is being held on pillars of democracy rule of law human rights and to fight corruption probably speak to our concerns as you also answer my brother's question the leader of the opposition is just implementing what we instruct we may recall that when I address the press over the democracy summit I did indicate that the patriotic fund working with our various stakeholders other political parties churches civil society organizations we have put in place a series of events and activities to raise awareness among zambians but also to raise awareness among the people who are coming to attend the democracy summit that Zambia does not have the credentials to host this democracy summit but also we are concerned by the fact that this democracy summit is nothing but just good winky what is it that America can come and tell us about democracy what can they say about democracy they themselves are not capable of handing over power to each other smoothly they are supposed to come and learn from us they can't come and teach us democracy when Joe Biden won what did Trump do there was a protest at Capitol Hill people died and they want to come and teach us democracy when Ed Galungu lost what did he do he went and handed over power in a very peaceful manner so if there is anyone who can teach the other democracy it is Ed Galungu who should teach Biden democracy it is Zambia that should teach America democracy after all only less than 30 years ago on which side of history did America find itself America was supporting appetite America was supporting colonialism how can they today only 30 years later say we have cleansed ourselves of this bad attitude now we are the best democrats in the world no we also want to reiterate our position we are not going to allow America to come into Zambia and use Zambia to malign other countries if they want to malign Russia and China let them do it in Washington not in Lusaka they must not use our peaceful country to malign other countries we in Zambia have always been non-aligned our founding father Kenneth David Kaunda was wise when he decided he is not going to look either west or east he will look everywhere he decided to join the non-aligned movement of countries this is a position that was held by his five successors except this one this one has even refused to pronounce the name he only does that when he is going to commission projects that were financed by China when it comes to diplomatic relations he doesn't want to have anything to do with China he is always looking west we also know whether they like it or not we know that one of the veiled activities for this meeting is to come and promote LGBTQ rights their sub-Saharan strategy is very clear Biden has said it very clearly any country that is not going to promote LGBTQ rights shall not have good relations with America so the diplomatic relations we are enjoying with America the trade relations we are having the aid that we are receiving is all tied now to LGBTQ rights you saw the tweet by Biden over Uganda he is warning Museveni how can a president of one country want a president of another what makes Biden think that America is the center of the world what makes him think that he is the president of the world Biden is president of the United States of America Museveni is president of Uganda and Museveni is the only one who can make decisions on behalf of the Ugandans America can't, Biden can't but we saw him making a tweet that we are going to sever our relations with Uganda if I were in Uganda I would say get out they are better friends and you are not going to choose friends for us Biden has no right to choose friends for Africa we Africans shall choose our own friends after all even for the struggle of independence in Africa where was America America was siding with our colonial masters it was China, it was Russia who was assisting us to earn our independence and today we must abandon them in exchange for few pieces of silver let them keep their money and let them keep their values about gays in Zambia particularly as a Christian nation I am enjoying all of us Zambia let us rise and show Kamala Harris when she comes let us show Biden as he calls his democracy summit that in Zambia we do not want to go against the will of God God is the one who willed that they shall be man and woman and that the two shall make family you have heard how many times they have said they want to reduce the population of the world they want to start with Africa they are promoting gay rights in Africa so that women sleep with women men sleep with men where will children come from meanwhile they themselves are married man with woman and they come and tell us Africans men marry men women marry women they brought vaccines to kill Africa they brought money to kill Africa enough is enough for America they must not think that they will continue to subjugate Africa this is the time for Africa to rise and as PA for standing on behalf of the whole continent this is the time for us to show that as a continent we can also stand without America we can stand without the West we are going to choose our own friends and no one will tell us who to look for as a friend we will do that on our own thank you very much Honourable I did not respond to my question as to whether you proceed with the protest I answered you I said that we instructed members of parliament not only over Munea but over the democracy summit over LGBTQI rights the members of parliament have been asking all the time can you give us the agenda of the democracy summit nobody seems to know can you tell us what Kamala Harris is coming for nobody seems to know so the members of parliament have the right to continue to ask they must make sure as members of parliament that they are presenting issues being raised by their electorates by the citizens of Germany and if they don't get sufficient answers what should they do if they have the right to protest and nobody will stop them because it's their right thank you good bye we will speak to you later thank you very much thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you