 All right, what's up internet? A bit early. I mean, starting the show a bit early instead of the 8.30 stated time, but we're just gonna hang out, get some people watching. As up, Revenjan? No, I really had the mic. Like, for once, I really knew that there was no sound. We had the mic off a little bit. Making sure that the stream speed is okay, and so far it's looking good. Just hanging out for a little bit, we'll get more people to show up, and then I'll start the show in a little bit. As up, Moniker? Evening? Okay, so since we're just sort of killing time, I'm wearing the new hardware for your t-shirt now, and we have three choices. We got two in black and one in white. Oh, this is actually a good angle. Like, I have a nice... Oh, did you already have to plug in the tongal? Yeah, so if you're interested in the shirt... Whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on, camera? What's going on? Show the shirt, show the shirt. If you're interested in picking up this one-of-a-kind design, it'll be live on our site starting tomorrow. It does come in black and another design in black and then another design in white, so this is an original... This is our first merch, actually, our first original merch. Merchandise. I think the team did a good job, to be honest. It was all in-house, from Raphael to our designers to, you know, our tech guys also gave input in. So actually, the concept of this shirt is like, if you're a PC guy but your friend or, you know, some significant other in your life is not, you can wear the shirt and you can point to like, you know, this is the anatomy of a PC, so you got the case and then you got the fans. Show the GPU. I can't see the GPU. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The words, the words. You got the GPU over here. This does actually look very much like a real case, but I won't mention it on camera for copyright reasons. But we have actually modified it a little bit to Mark Lewis at the cart, at the cart tomorrow. It'll be live on the site tomorrow. And then the thing about these shirts is that they're all limited editions. So we'll never come out with another design or print like this. We do have them in different sizes, small, medium, large, XL, things like that. So it'll be on the site tomorrow. White and black and black. Different stuff. All right, so thanks again for joining us. This is Crypto Watch Episode 5 and you know, let's just run the ad so we can start the actual show. I don't need windows. But where do you get windows? There's a lot of options, a lot of prices. I don't know. There's CDT Overs. It's easy to order. Search for the software you need. Add to cart. Dahan ka sa payment options nila. Walapag five minutes. Finish. There's a legit working CDT Kana para sa windows mo. Gami nalang aming ko para mga mohan para nang discounts. Kaya kung nagahalap ka ng legit, mura at original software. All right, thank you for staying through the ad and let me just get my graphics up. Okay, now we're ready. 450? The shirt Revenjan is 450. Regardless of size. Regardless of size. Small, medium, large, XL. S, M, L and XL. Casey Bolios, what's up? You're asking about the collab. That video is in the works. Actually, I just need to get around to start editing it. But it's scheduled for early November. But we have all of the interviews already done. And yeah, it's just basically chopping up, like, you know, doing the edit. And, like, the format we're going to do is a little bit like the streaming video that we did. So I'll introduce each segment and things like that. So just a little bit more work on that. But that's definitely coming. Thanks for joining us. I hope this is not taking time away from your class. All right, so we're going to change it up a bit for this script to watch episode. Usually I start with the news. And then news first and then tips at the end. But this time, we'll flip it. So tips first and then news at the end. Because the first topic I want to talk about is how to make a mining rig. And I ended up with this topic because we've had a lot of inquiries the past week or so. People with Bitcoin at it's almost all-time high and we'll talk about that in a little bit. But it's super, the price of Bitcoin is very high again. So a lot of people who wouldn't be interested are now interested in mining. So we're getting a lot of requests na pagawa ng mining rig and things like that. But it's not that simple. Like, you know, you don't, and ask them, like, oh, I want a mining rig. I mean, gaming rig, editing rig, rendering rig. Those are fairly simple things. But yung mining rig menyo kakaiba siya. So I just wanted to do, you know, we'll start with that. Like, how do you make a mining rig? And actually this is a, let me pull it up. So this is an actual inquiry that we got. So customers, like, I'm interested in buying a desktop computer best for Bitcoin mining. Could you give me a quotation and recommended specs? So my first answer was, my first answer was if it's for Bitcoin, you don't actually want a computer or a desktop computer. You want a dedicated miner called an ASIC miner. ASIC is, you know, it's a term for a kind of chip that basically does nothing but mine Bitcoin. It's optimized for only one thing. It's sole goal in life. If you're a Rick and Morty fan and there's a thing, it's become a meme na panang there's this one stupid gadget that they make and its only purpose in life is to be an alarm or be the gadget of other gadgets or things like that. Gano yung ASIC mining or ASIC miner. The only thing it can do is mine Bitcoin. But if you want to mine Bitcoin exclusively and you want to get the best ROI, that's what you want because GPU miners now are basically ineffective. They're not efficient enough anymore to mine Bitcoin in particular. So if you come to me and you ask me like I want to mine Bitcoin, my answer is don't buy a desktop computer buy an ASIC miner which is a standalone computer. We don't sell that at hardware sugar. Sometimes you can get it in Lazada or in Shopee. I'm not familiar with parang walang official distributor dito. Yung sikat nagamagawa nung ASIC miner is an ant miner or it's really a company and they really produce these kind of standalone miners. So if you want to get into Bitcoin mining and you're serious about that I would really recommend ASIC miner which is what I recommend to this customer. If it's for Bitcoin you're better off getting an ASIC instead of a desktop computer. So but the inquiry was a bit persistent. The customer's reply to my thing was na use an ASIC miner then the reply was we just plan to connect through nice hash which is kind of like I'm talking about ASIC using an ASIC miner and a nice hash those things they don't connect they're not obviously there's kind of like a disconnect but you see the customer is new to mining and everything nice hash is just like a mining pool so you join a mining pool when you mine what's a mining pool basically new bitcoins are generated by okay now we're going down the rabbit hole a little bit but just very briefly new bitcoins are generated by mining which is the term for when you do work for the network you're actually verifying transactions when you quote unquote mine and every time that you mine you're you're gaining a chance to unlock a cryptographic puzzle and if you're the guy to unlock the puzzle for that block then you get a prize of an x amount of bitcoin that day when I first started mining I think it was around 50 bitcoin per block so if you're the guy to solve the puzzle you gain 50 bitcoin but the bitcoin is already designed so that the rewards per block lessen over time so I don't know if it's 50 bitcoin anymore but basically that's how it works when you're mining you're doing work for the network you're validating transactions and for each work that you do you're getting a chance to unlock or to solve a puzzle and if you solve that puzzle you gain an x amount of bitcoin where do the mining pools come in the problem with mining or solo mining is it's winner take all only one person can get that reward per block so what the mining pool does is everybody kind of contributes their work to the mining pool and even though only one person in that pool is able to get the correct answer the prize is rationed off or it's a pro rata distributed among the people who contributed to the mining pool so yung kagandaan ng mining pool even if you're not the one who found the answer if you contributed work then you get a share of the profits and that's really how most people mine nowadays because the odds of you being the sole miner to get the correct answer to the block and get the reward of bitcoins is very very very very very very very very very small so that's why a lot of people use pool mining I don't know any insane people actually who do solo mining anymore back in the day kaya pa yun dating GPU mining dating CPU mining when Bitcoin was very new but even back in the day when I started and I started very early with Bitcoin pool mining was already sort of the recommended way to go because yun nga the chances of you being the correct one to get the to being the one with the correct answer is infinitesimal I mean it's really really tiny so when the customer said I said use an ASIC miner and the customer said we just plan to use a mining pool medyo you know you have an idea already that you're not really talking this is not a seasoned seasoned investor in mining or in crypto so and at first you know I was trying to explain that you don't want to go down this desktop route but the customer is very insistent so this is why I thought of making you know talking about it first on this episode panong ba talaga yung mining to make a mining rig so the first thing is if you're into Bitcoin and you're serious you want an ASIC miner you don't want a desktop computer the upside of an ASIC miner is it's much more efficient than using GPU mining the downside is kumbaga ol in ka you can't use that computer for anything else that ASIC computer that ASIC miner pang Bitcoin mining lang talaga siya so that's if you're serious but what if another kind of miner is you know you just want to try you have a very nice desktop you bought a 3070 you know you have a very fast graphics card you bought it for gaming but you're the inking uso naman yung mining ngayon baka I can earn back some of the money that I spent on my rig why not try it yun pwede yun kumbaga sideline mo lang you bought the rig for something else for video editing for gaming for you know rendering that's why you needed the high specs and you're thinking kung isideline ko lang yung computer and that's fine and actually that for a sideline with a GPU again GPUs are not recommended anymore for Bitcoin mining they haven't been recommended for a long time already basically kasi arms race yung mining the Bitcoin network senses or is able to detect when a lot of miners are operating and it makes things harder because it wants to control inflation so you know a lot of people criticize Bitcoin for being digital and having no assets backing it you know it's really just like in the air san ba yung value niya but whoever designed it you know Satoshi is his pseudonym whoever he, she, they were they really included certain features in Bitcoin to try to ensure its value and one of those is to control inflation so the more people mining the harder it becomes to mine and because Bitcoin mining is so popular now GPU mining just really isn't efficient anymore so to go back to the topic if you're using a desktop computer pang sideline I would really recommend mining another kind of coin Ethereum some of our other viewers or customers have recommended raven coin which is just basically like Bitcoin but the value is much less but you're able to generate a lot more raven coin using GPU rather than if you mine Bitcoin so there are a lot of coins now out there Shiba you know actually I wanted to include I'll mention Shiba you know a little bit in the news portion later but if you're just using your PCing as a sideline that's perfectly fine but I would suggest using it to mine something else not Bitcoin do you need to do anything else so you got this really nice rig you know high-end GPU high-end CPU your PSU is probably at least 750 watts maybe higher do you need to do anything else so that you can sideline mining no actually you can take your existing computer especially if it's high-end and just start mining I mean you can join a mining pool you can run the programs needed to mine Dennis from YouTube asked how much bang acic miner ngayon I don't know I've been out of the mining game for a long time I do not know how much the most recent ones are Casey Bollio's can an APU mine I think so but again I don't think it would be very efficient like like I don't know how much like definitely I wouldn't even try Bitcoin maybe Ethereum or maybe Ravencoin so if you have a high-end rig and you just want to try oh parang mas paganda yung lighting kung ano anyway if you just want to sub or go bird is paya scam actually we've talked about this or sorry I promise I would talk about this based on the last video or the last time I did crypto watch some people have asked me about paya it's claim to fame I think is that supposedly you can mine using your cellphone or things like that but I haven't really looked into it but it seems like a scam but to be honest I really haven't looked into it maybe if you have any experience or go bird you can let us know in the chat but me personally I haven't tried it it seems a bit scammy but to be honest I haven't done my due diligence because I haven't invested in it or I haven't mined it so I don't know Dennis I've been using my laptop and even coin kaso ayoko ibabad masyado that's a good point especially at laptops if you're mining you will generate a lot of heat because basically online 24-7 you want to keep that thing running as long as possible that will generate a lot of heat and laptops in particular don't deal with heat very well so if you have a high end desktop and you want to use it for mining you don't need to do anything with the hardware you're good to go and you can just run programs and hook up to mining pools if you just want to try sideline pasubuk although you will have to content with heat so if it's a high end rig most likely your case does have good cooling already you're going to want to make sure that that good cooling is continuous so if your case is dirty maybe clean it out first make sure it gets good ventilation if you have it on the floor maybe put it in an area like on your desk where it has better airflow if it's an ITX build the high end same problem as like with a laptop that's going to generate a lot of heat and ITX builds don't dissipate heat very well so it's a bit dicey if you use a laptop or a high end laptop or a high end ITX build to mine but again on a theoretical level you can go ahead and use your high end computer just to try mining maybe leave it on for like an hour or two hours but to set expectations you really won't see a lot of profit like leaving it for 24 hours so it's going to be you got to leave it on for much longer than that especially on the established coins like Ethereum where the difficulty is higher you really need to run it quite long to see any kind of significant profit and to be honest medyo nakakaadik mining you think na gawin ko lang sideline pasubuk-subuk lang but back when I was mining I would remember I was still using my personal computer before I had a dedicated miner and medyo nakakaadik kontek you know you're not doing anything but your PC is working man it's working for you and you know you're generating profit so I wouldn't play games I would just leave my computer on mining kasi iniisip ko sayang e sayang e so kahit sobrang ingay kasi the fans need to be on really on all the time sobrang ingay na computer nandun sa kwarto ko pero okay lang tulog nalaw kahit maingay just the idea that you know you're not doing anything but your computer is working and you're actually generating real profit something that you can sell for real money that is quite addicting so just be aware of that that yes you can you can use a high end rig to sideline in mining but it soon takes on a life of its own you'll stop gaming so that you can leave the PC on to mine and things like that and of course there is the energy level you'll consume a lot more energy sobrang mahal ng koreante dito sa atin at mararam daman mo talaga yun when you start mining especially like yun 24-7 na parang ano that 24-7 mining will really shoot up your utility bill even with just one GPU then is I've been mining for one month eight hours, three times a week nakka two dollars and ten cents palang ako well in bitcoin bitcoin value is going up so it should go up as well Casey, open case or bear case build for mining, I'll talk about that in a little bit when I'll talk about the dedicated miner random ren, every once kailangan linisen kasi ang kapal ng dust build up actually the dust go into Casey's question is it better to have a closed case for mining well, I'll touch on that in a little bit so number one, if you want to do bitcoin mining definitely get an ASIC miner it's no good to have a GPU to mine bitcoin number two, if you just want to mine on the side you can do that if you just want to try it especially if you have a high end rig but for this particular customer yun nga yun initial tanong sa akin I want a mining rig das medyo ayaw makinig sakin when I said na, you know but the customer was still kind of insistent na I want a kind of a desktop computer mining build so this is number three what do you need if you want to make a professional miner with GPUs yun nga, because a professional miner then yun ASIC so let me just pull up some stuff actually you could really tell that the customer was a bit new to PC building in general because I asked I'm trying to make the best miner for you so I've cut out RGB, do you mind? and the customer was like, what's RGB? so it's really these kind of customers I'm very I want to tell them this is what you do but sometimes they just won't listen to my advice like I want to save the money and I'm trying to steer them the right way but sometimes they're just like, well I heard from a friend nag ito gan yan so I'm asking the desktop would be specifically for mining yes specifically for mining but of course with option to use other than mining so we need best CPU cooler and case fan so yun nga yun nga and it's very hard to give direct answers it's always like what's the best it depends on your budget and the answer is what do you mean depends and it's really yun nga ako yung nagalala for the customer and then so there are all these questions like does the motherboard have enough slots to accommodate for the GPUs and things like that so yun nga all of these questions are oops that's for later so all of these questions can bring us to what would a professional mining rig look like if you designed it like using GPUs this was throwback let me see if I can that is my minor circa five years ago five years ago so to answer cases question open case or open case or close case most professional minors have open cases or in my case no case and this is what a professional miner looks like but it's not professional miners are not pretty to look at because basically you're just trying to stick as much hardware as you can so number one cheap cheap CPU this is a cheap Intel CPU I don't even remember anymore because your CPU basically will not do anything you want to get the cheapest possible but so cheap CPU, cheap storage, cheap RAM you don't need any of those things super small hard drive you don't even need an SSD of course if you're mining Cia coin which I think is the storage coin you want better storage although naging uso yung Cia coin for a little bit but now parang it's fallen out of favor di na siya uso so get cheap storage get cheap CPU and get cheap RAM but don't get expensive GPU get expensive motherboard get expensive power supply so to go back to my miner these are for our x470s a bit expensive back in the day but not too expensive these were mining ethereum and there were four this motherboard actually was a gigabyte ah sorry I think it was an MSI board you could actually fit six GPU cards on it I could only get a configuration of four GPUs to be stable using this miner so I only had four working and then this is an EVGA 1200 watt PSU again you need a lot of power to mine so you want to get an expensive PSU basically the most expensive that you can get so this is what a professional miner would be based around you want a motherboard with a lot of PCIe slots you need riser cables because another problem when having a case is that you won't be able to fit a lot of GPUs into the case so a lot of professional miners now actually buy just these aluminum frames where you can hang the cards from and then you attach the cards to the motherboard using riser cables so kumbaga this is the motherboard and the riser cables are basically extensions kasi kung ilapag mo yung GPUs hindi talaga sila kasya side by side so you need riser cables to bring them into the air so that you have more space here in the air to have the GPUs aligned again if you can see my old mining rig I only have one actually the trifan Red Devil which I think is actually still in the store all of these cards actually still work so all of those things mining ruins cards and things like that I took care of my cards naman so this Red Devil card is actually still in use at the store so you can go visit it in the store so only one card would fit on the actual motherboard but thanks to riser cables a bit hard to see in the picture but these are the riser cable and they attach to the motherboard here so it's the back end of the riser cable because of the riser cables you're able to connect to the PCIe slots here in the motherboard and that's how your the goal of any professional miner is to maximize efficiency with the parts you have so you get one motherboard na sobrang dami mo gpu na pwede mo isalpak doon and they do make professional boards now for that I mean like boards specifically designed for miners same with PSUs na andaming power connectors for GPUs so but this was like a mining rig na like five years ago so and it's a very primitive rig I mean you know to be honest you can see the program I'm running here in the background this is what a mining program would look like it's telling you like oh this is the hash rate I'm getting and you know these are the amounts of work that I've been doing and then my connection to the mining pool is active parang ganyan I've submitted the work that I've done and you'll notice also the monitor is cheap as hell it's a really old Samsung monitor so you also don't need an expensive monitor so to go back to the question of the customer what do you need for a dedicated miner that's really what a dedicated miner would look like and you don't want you can't use that for anything else not even for office work kasi all of the all of its time is being spent with mining and so any other function that you would do on that would be super slow you don't and it would be it's really hot to be beside a miner you wouldn't want to be beside it so ganun dapat yung kung serioso ka mag kung serioso ka sa mining your rig will look something like this even now five years later your rig will look something like this multiple GPUs expensive power supply expensive motherboard motherboard very important for stability you don't want to have to keep babysitting your miner cheap keyboard cheap monitor and things like that cheap storage cheap CPU so it's very different kasi when when a customer thinks I want a miner yung usually inisip ng tao parang desktop computer lang yan naka case and everything but dedicated mining computers yung yung are very different and because you want to get a return on investment quickly you need to know where to be cheap and you need to know where to spend your money on I see a lot of people asking for minors and they automatically get a very fast CPU also because they think everything needs to be fast but that's not the case at all in fact you can really cheap out on the CPU just to show you guys what a good looking miner looks like this is from an actual customer I posted this before on our Facebook this is a very beautiful this is an aesthetic miner so I think this is a 6 or 7 and if the owner of this the owner of this miner is a frequent customer of hardware sugar and he does frequent the chats and the live streams quite often so if you're watching kudos again I really like the look of this miner and it's so neat so parang basura ng miner ko compared to how everything is so neatly placed here because this guy is a professional miner he knows what he's doing I love how and he cares about aesthetics also so I love how futuristic this looks I think this is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 these are 6700 XTs GPUs and they're all lined up together it looks so good and actually he's building more miners now he's getting more parts from us for more pictures this is how a miner should look like versus ito yung basura yung sakin because to be honest I didn't care about aesthetics I just wanted to have them mining I'll just take some questions from the chat random ren panuhon ng nice hash you don't wanna play anymore you just wanna keep mining valyan, takakalesan ba ng life expectancy ng whole PC yung mining it could because it's not really a good idea to if the ventilation is not good your entire PC will heat up especially if you have your mining with a case so heat is generally not good and 24-7 heat may affect other components down the line but as I mentioned in this picture, you can see my GPUs all of those guys are still working so the GPUs actually nothing else I think from this miner survived in fairness itong EVGA PSU na matay ito it died and then I sent it back to EVGA and they replaced it and that's actually one of our videos on the hardware sugar YouTube channel na pinadala ko yung PSU sa Taiwan sa EVGA and they replaced it in fairness to EVGA Alan Luna says the same thing once nagsarta ako magmining, di na ako nakalarunong games I know, right? and parang you're like oh, pa sideline, sideline lang but it really starts to take over your life Dennis, anong mga recommend mo na cold or hard wallet for crypto I'm gonna be upfront all of my crypto is in my exchange exchange on Kraken and all of my most of my crypto is there because I need to have access to it to trade so I haven't really explored the hardware wallets or cold wallet services Trezor is like the sort of go to brand here sa atin to be honest we're in very preliminary talks with a new brand to bring in a hard wallet here to the Philippines and then hardware sugar would be the exclusive distributor so it's a very new brand hindi pa siya sikat but the technology looks good so yeah, there's not really much I can say about it at this point because the talks are still very early on but we might be selling a hard wallet in the future if it works out Moniker, mine, Ethereum using a single RX 580 well, you know, I really I don't think it would be worth it you'll get something but it would be very small although with Ethereum you get a little bit and then you stake it so you'll earn interest from that so you'll get something but the immediate ROI would be very small if at all kasi kong baga your operating expense your OPEX would be electricity at sobrang mahal ng koreyente sa atin so it really might not be worth it in the short term if you want to hold that Ethereum it'll go up over time then it's required ba na taka Aircon no, as long as it's well ventilated this particular minor that I had was not in an Aircon room kasi dagdag yung sa gastos Aircon is very expensive tas mahal na nga yung running the minor for all those GPUs so air ventilation is fine, you don't need Aircon in fact, I wouldn't recommend it David, saan ba na makabili nung ASIC minor I've never bought an ASIC minor so I wouldn't I don't have a go-to place although I see them on Lazada or Shopee occasionally or like parang friend of a friend nagbabenta, parang ganun but I've never sold them hardware sugars never sold them and I've never bought one personally Chris Alvarez, sup, good evening so those are the basic considerations that you want to take into account if you are thinking of doing making a minor or using your existing computer number one, if you want to do Bitcoin mining, get an ASIC minor number two, if you want a sideline that's okay, especially if you have a high-end rig now you don't need to buy any other additional hardware number three, if you want to buy like a desktop slash mining hybrid I guess my point is that doesn't really work kasi yung mining na dedicated minor you really can't use it for anything else if it's a good minor kasi you're getting a really trashy very slow CPU like you don't want to be running that and then, what's the point you're mining and then papatakbuka na windows, you're surfing makakrash pa yan, mainis ka lang kasi nasigraprofits mo kasi naputol yung you have to restart you have to connect back to the pool so I guess my basic point here is that if you're going to get a dedicated minor get a dedicated minor if you want to go to GPU root, that's fine I flashed on screen earlier that you can do that very well we have some customers that make some beautiful minors using GPUs but I really wouldn't expect it to mahirap tong hybrid na parang oh, desktop plus plus minor it doesn't work like that because opposite yung makailangan mo for a good desktop chaw sa good minor because there are certain things about a minor that you can cheap out on and then there are certain things of a minor that need to be super expensive that don't need to be super expensive in a desktop so it's not like you think gaming if I have a gaming computer with a desktop performance kaya niya mag excel kaya niya mag 64 tabs ng Chrome yes, that's true for gaming for editing rigs or rendering rigs but it's not true for a well-designed minor yung ya medyo opposite yung yung requirements yung dedicated minor and a good desktop which is what I've been trying to explain to this particular inquiry but it's just I'm kind of an idiot because this customer wants to spend easily like 200 plus thousand getting this kind of computer to sako po yung nagsasabi na no no you don't need that or what do you need and let's try to do this kasi consen siya ko nalang yun eh to be honest, I really want to get the best value for the customer and then but it's very difficult if one, the customer is not that tech savvy about mining and number two, if yung other trying to have everything good desktop and good minor, so it's a bit difficult alright Matthew Lim, nice hash MSI Afterburner naka under clock by around 70% baka under clock to around 70% can use the GP alone for mining while leaving the CPU to browse I guess so Matthew is saying na kaya naman with your desktop and then you use the GPU I guess but I really like I'm surfing, I have multiple tabs I have multiple monitors on so I have different windows showing different things at a certain yes and you have the GPU under clock but kaya pang sideline but it's really difficult to reconcile the requirements of having a good desktop and a good minor even if your CPU can do it if it's a good minor then your CPU is shit, I mean you bought a really slow CPU because you know that you can spend the money on other things kaya sobrang hirap to reconcile the requirements of a minor and a good desktop alright so that was my bit on how to build, very short bit on how to build a minor I'm told now because I've been out of the mining gig for a long time but I've been told there are software programs now that allow you to better regulate each GPU so you're monitoring the temps and you're undervolting because actually you don't need to the common perception is I want my GPUs to be running super fast so that they can mine super fast but actually it's an art to finding the proper settings for your GPU so that they'll be the most efficient both in terms of mining i.e. work and in energy consumption so most professional miners don't have their miners running their GPUs mining at 100% usually na ka underclock yun and I hear now that there are programs in place that allow you it's much easier now to individually underclock each card and monitor the temperatures and things like that medya mahirap pa when I was mining it wasn't as organized as before so I'll just end the segment with another flash of that very nice customer miner it's like something out of I mean really look at this it's so neat there's cable management the RGB is coordinated it just looks really good so this is what a professional miner would look like a modern professional miner alright, so that is it for the that is it for I'll just take questions jean, ano at ilang GPU minimum to start mining again it depends are you looking to just as a sideline if you just want a sideline to start with your existing GPU but if you want to get serious ROI then you really gotta pony up serious cash basically the answer is as many as you can get at yung minimum as many as you can get and you gotta keep running that thing you gotta keep mining so 24-7 talaga yan it's just not like you can pop in and oh I'll try it for a week or something once you invest you really gotta keep that mining going and we'll get to the prices later nakakadismaya and you think na worth it pa ba yung mining I don't wanna mine anymore you really gotta psych yourself up to power through and to keep mining even when the prices are down speaking of prices if you notice in the text description here of this video for every crypto watch episode I put the price of bitcoin and when we first started our this is our fifth episode bitcoin was at around $33,000 per bitcoin now it's at around $62,000 so five months ago you would have basically doubled your money if you had put in bitcoin in June and you still owned it now in October just to illustrate just how wild cryptocurrency can be like the value swings are crazy and bitcoin is actually near it's all time high now it's around 64.9 I think it was $64,800 per one bitcoin bitcoin is at around $62,000 now so it's near it's all time high historically the price actually gets bitcoin rises in the last quarter of the year historically so most likely we will hit a new all time high in the next coming three months that's what everybody says I tend to believe it but this is not financial advice I'm just making kuyento kung how I'm betting my money and I think that's a reasonable assumption to make that bitcoin will rise especially in the last quarter of the year it has risen already quite dramatically even from last month the last time we did crypto watch it was around $48,000 or something it's in the text description $46,000 I think so unlayo na from around five weeks or so ago so we'll just get to the news a little bit actually after episode four of crypto watch there were a lot of interesting developments in the crypto space number one was Evergrand from China so Evergrand is this really big Chinese company they're in the real estate the problem is they're not making money so it's a really really large company that employs a lot of people so a lot of worldwide there was concern that this really big as Chinese company would collapse and take down a lot of Chinese jobs and it would seriously damage the Chinese economy and when that shit hit the fan everything drops stocks drop, crypto drop and so that was a major drop for crypto towards the end of September and it was recovering I emphasize this because I bought at the drop I'm like yeah okay fine Evergrand crypto will recover no problem and it was recovering tapos poo chan na one two punch tayo yung unang punch yung Evergrand tapos yung follow up punch was less than a week later crypto was recovering nicely pataos ulit yung valuations and then China again banned crypto and so that sent the prices the prices were really depressed after that one two punch for around two weeks or so and personally I was speculating like will prices recover anytime soon and it really look grim for a little bit towards the end of the month kasi grave just when things were recovering mabilis actually siya na recover from the Evergrand scare or the Evergrand the fear but when China banned crypto that really sent the markets into a tailspin and it took maybe two weeks or so to recover and you know looking back on it everything is like oh we should have bought we should have bought but when prices are really down like that it's really hard to say when they will recover so kailan din malakas yung loob mo na bumulika when prices drop especially because of that one two punch bumaba nang asya tapos big lang bumagsak ulit dahil sa China crypto ban you know you gotta have some conviction if you bought in at that time but kudos for you if you did because now you're reaping the benefits everything is up basically most especially the blue chip crypto like bitcoin and ethereum ethereum might see I think the all time high was around 4-1 4-2 or somewhere there about currently it's around 3800-3900 now so ethereum also is reaching it's all time high then it's waiting for the dip after it hits all time high hopefully mag-dip I also want to buy in David is mining better than trading it really depends on who you are sa person not to get philosophical or psychological but you know iba kasi yung mindset yung miner yung miner medyo long term and they like to tinker if you're a hardware guy, mining will appeal to you because you're tinkering with a lot of stuff you have to get your miner going you have to maintain your miner you have to ensure what's an efficient way to mine yung aning voltage if you're underclocking it what your voltage settings are so if you're a hardware guy and you don't mind long term or if long term appeals to you yung capital kasi yung opaxon palang yung koreyente grave yan bye valiant good luck on your exam thanks for joining you should sleep early if you're having an exam but thanks for tuning in we missed you in the chat so yung opaxon palang for mining is quite high you think for GPUs running that's gonna shoot your electric bill way up even with solar one of the earliest videos we did on the hardware sugar youtube channel was naglaya ako ng solar sa bahay because I was using it also to mine but even with solar taas pa rin yung electricity bill ko so yung it's hard it really depends on your capital available to you and what kind of person you are yung trader kasi kahit may 100 pesos ka kaya mo nai pasok yun bilikan yung ripple xrp capital benta ka agad then pasok ka sa binance coin or something as a trader you just need an internet connection a very slow computer will do you only need very little capital pero grave din yung risk mo especially if you're day trading meaning sobrang bilis mo mag in and out sa crypto and it can be very stressful especially when you bought at a certain price tapos biglang bumagsak that can also be very stressful if you watched our other crypto watch episodes I think around episode 2 or episode 3 I mentioned that I'm trying a new trading strategy na I'm more aggressive kasi dati ako long term hold talaga like I'll buy low and I'll keep and keep kung bumagsak yan below my buying price I'll still hold I'll still keep the crypto kasi but around 3 months ago I set aside some money to try to do more aggressive trading more in line with day trading and like I've lost so much money I mean like in percentage to like what I set aside so grave yun nakaka yun so you need like day traders need to have fortitude they need perseverance, you need bravery and it can be some kind of crazy to day trade so yun nga depended sa temperament mo is mining better than trading the answer to that really depends on you what attracts you and like you know what do you want a high level of risk or are you more a thinker and also yun nga your capital investment ergo birth puso ko lang ergo birth actually I have to thank for one of the coins that I did make money on which was solana grave yun solana last month when ergo birth told me about it or when he first told me about it was around I think I got in at around 75 dollars per solana then it hit 200 200 200 dollars per solana it's around 160 now I'm not saying I sold at 200 I can't wait that long yun nga looking back on it it's so easy to say I should have sold at 200 but you don't know kung kailan aabot yan saan siya aabot so I sold much earlier than that but I did make a nice profit of solana and I have to thank ergo birth for that which the profit I promptly lost on other on other crypto investments yun nga it's like garan yung reality ng day trading it's like labas pasok and at the end of the day you hope you're in the green rather than in the red k.m. yung bao still waiting for that high end gaming build video um we know we I made a promise to myself that we would film the builds that we do more often and we were doing that but it's quite hard now with um with covid kasi yun nga we're trying to lessen the amount of the number of people in the shop chaka we have a full time editor actually but he's para niyayaram na ako sa kanya to ask him to come in before he would come in to shoot the builds um but we should really get around to to focusing ya on having more build videos especially like the super expensive builds um that we that we occasionally do so yes that is something that we should do although if you watched the livestream yesterday actually I had a good time doing simple upgrades like the hard disks for Raphael's computer and um replacing the PSU on my computer so um that was actually fun to do and it was really the production values are not as nice because we couldn't use the professional camera kasi the the Raphael's build was down his rig was down because I needed to install the new hard drive but those were fun to do and um I mean I had a good time doing yesterday so we might explore doing more of that kind of content in the future na parang live streaming actual builds even though medyo like the camera work like we were using cell phones and you know it's hard to have a host and somebody else has to be there to do the camera the audio wasn't good because I wasn't able to use the blue yeti but uh overall it was a fun fun thing to do like uh JP Mack thanks uh I'm glad you enjoyed it Ramon de los Reyes bossing sup uh shout out um yeah so the live live upgrades were nice to do to although to be honest um it's kind of nerve-wracking to do it live um kasi things can always go wrong but if it's off air you don't mind like you know you can take your time um diagnosing what's wrong and if you do something stupid you know it's not going on camera um and everybody is aware of the verge right where like if everything could be criticized so it's kind of nerve-wracking to do it live as a stream and a lot of work actually went even to the pre-production of that like I already went in and did the cable work on tying the cables and trying to figure out what cables needed to be repositioned so that we could get the SATA data and the SATA power cables where we needed them to be so um yeah uh there was already a lot of work beforehand even prior to the stream um kasi bolios uh who's more techie between me and uh Raph actually we're both kind of techie a different kind of techie um like he's more into apple stuff so he can really get uh engrossed in like the ipad and like cell phones he's super into cell phones and laptops I'm more desktop oriented um so he doesn't really for him the desktop is like I want high-end stuff and if it's working okay na but you don't need to hold this hand like you know he can figure out how to do his gpu and things like that but like on the tech side he's more yeah he's really getting more into like cell phones whereas me like I have no like I don't really like my cell phone guys um 3-4 years old and it's second hand uh my ipad is also second hand the apple iphone I used to shoot um before we got this new camera is also second hand so everybody has their own tech niche and actually that's what I like about having a lot of hosts on the channel and of course he's super into the chairs but I wouldn't consider that as tech but you know so everybody has their own niche as a host and I think that's super useful for the channel you know I like certain things Rafael likes certain things Rocky the programmer and Jay are both into keyboards which me I have no idea about the whole custom keyboard scene Marvin on Pwede Magtanong brings his own perspective so that's what I like about having a lot of hosts on the channel damit talagang iba-ibang perspectives and different healing sa tech and it makes for an interesting discussion when we don't agree like sometimes we'll disagree like Rocky the programmer is not a fan of air cooling ako personally actually I'm more in favor of air cooling on the average compared to having an AIO so yun very interesting the perspectives that different people bring to the channel JP Mack it was great the stream yesterday because we got a peek at the thought process behind choosing the parts that you used ha well basically my PC is like a Frankenstein computer meaning iba-ibang parts talagayan that I just assembled over time like you mismatched RAM hindi naman sa jayon it's just that one RAM stick failed and I was too cheap and I couldn't find actually the accompanying RAM so I just bought another one parang ganon so and then it's like a 3080 paired with a very old intel CPU hindi naman actually by choice yung computer ko it just sort of kind of grew up like that na palit ko palit kanyan and then yun yun I wanted to try the CCTV hard drive as a data hard drive kasi I thought it would make good content and I got the I got the CCTV hard drive for relatively cheap and you see a lot of people online telling you don't do it and the problem with me is when people tell me don't do it I kind of have a tendency to like you know the hell you say to tell me not to do it I'm going to end up doing it so I just wanted to be contrary and try it that way so but actually to be fair the drive is working very well now but of course it's only been like a day but so far so so far so good curbs watching the stream while cleaning my room that is actually a good way to watch a lot of content like you can hear the content but at the same time be productive so I approve hope you guys do vids on home networking setups been looking to set up a NAS drive I've been thinking of doing my own DIY NAS for a long time also have just never gotten around to it actually yes so that was it for the news crypto was down at the end of the month of September because of that one-two punch the Evergrand and the China banning crypto but a lot of people are against crypto and they're just against so basically any bad news they're like yay, down with crypto but if you look at it from a historical perspective it's kind of hard to beat crypto at this point hindi nang mong awalayan crypto is my personal opinion so China banned miners? no problem, lumipat sila elsewhere a lot of people move to the states to Texas where there's cheap energy to Miami where the mayor actually actively courted the bitcoin miners hindi lang na tolerated asin talagang, ay lipat kaya dito mas okay dito we have nuclear energy but it's actively courted miners because the thinking was while China banned it, that's where the majority of miners are, wala na RIP, bitcoin, RIP, ethereum but that's not what happened because there is a demand I mean it's basic supply and demand if people want new cryptocurrency, there will be value in it I mean if you mind, you'll still be able to sell it for a profit so if you're a miner tuloy lang, tuloy lang diba hanap lang ako ng place where I can mine in peace we've talked about in other crypto watch episodes why China would want to ban crypto basically they banned everything not controlled by the Chinese government so they do have their own digital yuan and if you have yuan but in your Alipay wallet they also control that because they crack down on their tech giants so a lot of political reasons why China would ban crypto but it doesn't mean that they're against all digital currencies they're just against the ones that they can't control alright, so I just want to before I go through the chat again, I just want to say this is actually the last part of the stream or at least the last scheduled part and we've been going for about an hour I do want to say sorry for this actually it wasn't a big thing but when it first became a thing so it's a small thing but when it first became a thing, I was a little annoyed to be honest, like the people who commented and I didn't think I should apologize for it pero it's been like three weeks or so and I've thought about it some more and I thought maybe I should apologize for this, so this is the thing let me pull it up here we go so last September 29 I posted about a crypto game crypto game is basically you can play the game and you earn crypto and you can sell that crypto so the name of the game was Dash League I had never played it, I had never tried it I just heard about it somebody was like, hey, maybe you want to try this so I was like, oh okay I did look through their stuff and it sounds interesting, so I posted it I shared it on our Facebook and our YouTube and we got quite a lot of comments saying that we shouldn't post stuff like this because it looks like a scam and I personally because, you know, we have an audience I shouldn't be basically I should be smarter and not say shit like this and not share stuff like this so at first, again, I was a bit annoyed to be honest, to be frank because I wasn't endorsing it believe me, if I'm endorsing something you'll know, I mean I'll be like oh na, if that's paid for if somebody gave me money to endorse something I will tell you the audience I was paid to say this I think that's very clear in the videos that we've done that have been endorsed and there were people in the comments saying ah, you know, sell out na naman to just another YouTuber na Binayaran and things like that I was a bit annoyed by that to post that to share that and if I were, you would know it because I would very specifically tell you if that's one thing about the channel that we're very careful about is being honest with the audience when if a brand sent us something but they had no say in what we had to say about it, we're very clear about that if we were paid to highlight certain features we're very clear about that as well I got a little bit annoyed that some comments would assume na Binayaran ako per snake kasi ako yung nagpost nun because believe me if something is endorsed, you'll know and so that was completely false but I didn't feel I needed to apologize for that but looking back on it with some distance I shared a piece of news that I thought would be interesting and I've done that before I posted about the 12th Gen Intel CPU I even put some editorial there it's time now to reconsider Intel and I put the thinking emoji so that was even more of an editorial endorsement than this Dash League post but nobody accused me of being sell out to Intel for my point of view, I was just posting news news about Intel news about a new crypto game that might be interesting if you're bored with Axie because I wasn't really happy with the gameplay of Axie which I did try out personally so my thinking for posting that was just simply to share news like if you're into crypto into crypto games with you're kind of bored with Axie maybe you want to try this one so that was the rationale behind that post again, I didn't think anything of it but the posters the comments made me think that and I don't know to be honest, if it's a scam or not I didn't do my research again because I was just posting news like the Intel CPUs are they faster than the 5950X the current generation of AMD we don't know yet so I didn't do my research on that because I didn't feel it warranted that level from me I was just sharing a piece of news but the comments made me appreciate that we reached this point that people perhaps just because they see it on our Facebook or they see it on our YouTube they actually might pony up some money for that so in hindsight and that's what I put in the text outline for this episode I do want to apologize for that because to be honest guys we have a lot of we have 70 plus thousand subs on YouTube and 27 thousand followers on Facebook but in my mind, it's tai-tai lang it's a bunch of friends just sharing so when I'm with my friends and Ergo Burt can attest to this in our Facebook group I'll just share random things or I'll just give my opinion about things because I also want to be candid and authentic and I don't need to have layers I don't think of I have 70 thousand subscribers now and therefore I need to be all corporate and shit I don't want to be like that I want it to be still authentic and candid so when I saw this bit of news and I was thinking, oh that's interesting I'll post it so that's where I'm coming from that was my mindset but it's just been 5 minutes I didn't want this to take over I didn't want this to take over the entire episode but that was my mindset it's an interesting bit of news I haven't researched on it but I'll just share it and again, just like I'm talking to friends but because my friends will do their own research they won't just buy stuff because I tell them oh, this is a good thing or panon, this is interesting which is how I approach the people on YouTube and Facebook also just because we say this is good which I didn't even say it was good I didn't endorse it I expect everybody to do their own research but after I've thought about it some more perhaps that's not a good assumption to have and I should be more careful in the kind of news and the kind of things that I share because not everybody will be do their due diligence and I come from the mindset that my friends I come from the mindset that I'm just talking to friends and that my friends the people in my circle would do their own due diligence they just wouldn't take my word for it like, oh, you should try this or this is good and that is how I approached sharing news and just like, oh, look at this this looks interesting is how I approached it but again, we've kind of reached this audience level this audience number that that I should be more careful in the things I post and things like that so in the end I concluded that yes, I should say sorry for not being clear in that post I mean, I could have shared it but maybe at your own risk and things like that Ano pa sabi ko? New crypto game with an upcoming sale I did say not affiliated with them in any way but figured maybe some of you are bored with the Axi grind which I was I didn't hindi ako na towa sa gameplay ng Axi personally and want to try something new the gameplay on this one sounds promising at least based on the description that, yeah, that's actually that's entirely how I felt about Dash League seems interesting I'll just share it but you know, we've reached this certain level again, kasi it's that kind of balance between being authentic and being like, you know how I approach friends versus being like kala ang daming disclaimer and nothing turns me off more in life than daming disclaimer it sounds like a very wishy-washy way to deal with life and to deal with people that you always need to have disclaimers like, oh, but you know you need this and you need that parang ganon so that's not how I approach content and that's also how I like to do things in my personal life even just going back to that hard drive that CCTV hard drive as a data drive I don't know something's wrong with my brain when somebody tells me like, I shouldn't do something I become more it becomes more attractive to me like, yeah, I don't do it pa, ganon pala so which is how I ended up with crypto very early on palang you know, bitcoin single digits crypto bitcoin was when I first started with bitcoin I like trying out things that not a lot of people are doing or doing the opposite of what a lot of people are doing so that's how I approach conversations like, oh, you know this sounds interesting maybe you wanna look into it some more but yeah not to belabor the point it wasn't really a big deal not a lot of people it wasn't like boycott hardware sugar things like that but I really did take the comments to heart comments that said that ayin ako just another YouTuber who got paid yeah, man to be honest I wish we got paid we didn't get any we didn't get any money for that post and you would have known I would have been very clear if anything was endorsed so I'm not apologetic about that because I didn't get any money and the way we run the YouTube and the Facebook were very clear especially personally kasi we're a shop so it's a very tight line to it's a very tight line to cross and to travel kasi we want you to buy things from us we're a shop we're primarily a shop that sells hardware but at the same time if we're reviewing something we also want to be honest and if a product is not good and you shouldn't buy it we'll also tell you you'll most likely see we'll put our money where our mouth is if we review the product most likely you'll see that we start carrying it in the shop Deep Cool AS500 plus we love that cooler guess what we carry it both in black and in white now the ST500 again Deep Cool the GPU holder we reviewed it we liked it so much we started carrying it in the shop so when we say that we really like the product and it's available readily available we'll probably usually start carrying it but yun nga it's a very fine line with us because we're a shop like what if suddenly we bash ASUS not likely because we really honestly I really do like everything basically ASUS sends my way but what if we started bashing ASUS like one product really isn't up to standards ASUS could blacklist us and say oh don't sell hardware sugar things and I don't think ASUS will do that I know the people working at ASUS they're all very fine people and they all understand actually ASUS is very supportive just be honest with your content we don't mind whatever you say and I really appreciate that about the brand so this is just an example but yun nga what if we bash a brand and they say don't sell anymore to hardware sugar so bang hirap noon what if MSI does that what if Gigabyte does that what if AMD does that wala na kami CPU diba so it's a very fine line that we walk as a shop and then with a YouTube channel so we're very very clear about this whole disclaimer thing and you'll know when it's endorsed and we're always very honest because that's the easiest way to do it we didn't like this product we'll say so we won't say it in a bashing way I also don't like reviews that negativity sells on the internet oh the worst GPU ever and oh the temperatures here suck panang ganyan negativity sells and if you look in the forums all of the tech guys try to be like Kia or know it all now yeah oh what you bought that GPU sa isinayang mo lang pera mo tanga ka ba bat mo beli lang yung ram na yan and that toxicity I don't think is helpful we're always trying to bring new people into the hobby and we get a lot of inquiries na sir nakita ako sa forum ok batong GPU na to usually it's fine the motherboard usually it's fine ang hirap lang din sa ibang techies they want to show that they're superior by bashing everything and again we don't want to do that also sorry and this thing kind of became like behind the scenes of all of the ethical things about running a YouTube thing but it's true because a lot of these things run through my mind if I say a bad thing about this brand will we not be able to sell their products anymore but you know I really try to be honest and the easiest way to answer all of those questions is to be honest if we don't like something we'll say it but again not in a bashing way because we don't think that's productive for the hobby for the people who want to get into the hobby I believe I described it to Rocky the programmer as nice honest so we're honest but you know we won't like I hate that kind of I made fun of it I made a satire out of it in our video types of PC buyers one of the most fun videos personally that I've ever done because I really dislike that kind of that kind of critique na lahat na lang bali lahat na lang but mo ginawa UI is the AIO radiator like this di mo mga nakita yung video ng gamers nexus and bakit ganito ganyan so not a very productive way to get people into the hobby so we're nice honest at the best way to go about it is really to be honest with everybody I'm kinda I kinda lost my train of thought like how did we end up here no no but seriously I mean it is a very fine line that we cross because we're in a unique position not very many shops have a YouTube channel some do especially here in the Philippines but okay I mean again I mentioned where I'm gonna be honest none of them are like us that we're very personal yung may ari talaga na yung shop yung host they get their hands dirty cutting themselves doing cable management and things like that although there are other shops with with YouTube channels here sa atin but nobody does it like we do like talagang it's personal I read all the comments I you know all of the hosts pour a lot of hard work into what we do so if we're a little prickly in the comments it's just coming from a place na we spend a lot of time on the YouTube channel on the Facebook content and things like that yung again just being honest I can honestly say that no other shop channel does it here at least like hardware sugar and I'm very proud of that that we're very open we don't have a corporate style because the big stores remember my YouTube channel pang marketing pang corporate but it's us our production values are not the best but being candid and just talking in a language na hindi super techy but it is understandable to a wider audience I think yung na it's very important and nobody does it talagang like we do and again yung na yung na if somebody's watching this and you think I'm full of it and yung yabang yabang na ni ni Anton that he can talk about himself in the third person I mean right Jesus Christ who does that but again to be honest yung na just keeping it real I really take pride in the fact that we don't very few shops we're the only one that does it in this kind of way very candid, very honest and it's a very fine line to walk that's why we're very conscious every time that we do a negative review about something but we'll do it because yung na our policy is to be honest but to go back to this post yung na if you're tuning in late I'm saying sorry that I posted this not because I endorsed it and not because I felt it was misleading in any way I hadn't done any research but I'm saying sorry because basically I assumed a level of due diligence that might not be feasible for everybody who might have read that post so Casey Bollio sa Slight Linus Retirement di naman, di naman wala pa ang Slight Linus wala pa ang Slight Linus I don't know I guess I'll rewatch this later if kumay Slight Linus Slight Linus face ba ko but so I'm apologizing for the post sorry I am apologizing for the post not because it was endorsed not because I hid anything from anyone but maybe because it assumed the level of due diligence that I assumed because I just when I post I'm just talking to friends versus the reality that some people might have spent their hard earned money on something that I didn't think much about yung na in my mind I was just sharing some news so looking back on it at the time again I didn't think I felt didn't apologize three weeks later and I've been thinking I've been thinking about it slowly it's been in my mind and I do feel now that post as it was worded was ill-advised so ayon and just the last word on being honest I think we're also the only shop that bashes and again sorry bashes is the wrong word that calls out customers when they're being bad customers if you've seen our head scratcher album on Facebook you know what I'm talking about it's like because it's very personal again that's me I'm usually the one answering the Facebook or J sometimes so it is very personal and I'm the one holding I saw a comment Ralph Ople so hardware sugar may Aris it's true the hardware sugar number there's one person who answers that me the cell phone anyway I'm the one who answers all the texts I'm the one who answers all the calls if you answer the if you call the landline you will get the shop staff but you know everybody is very involved they're a very small shop we don't have a lot of money to spend on staff we prefer to spend it on hardware so yun Rafael and myself all of us do double triple duties so when a customer is kind of being an ass I personally have no problem calling him out and we're very clear the motto of hardware sugar is cool parts cool people if you're not a cool person if you're not chill please buy from somewhere else and I've mentioned this many many times in the different in the different posts in the different live streams in the different videos if like you need it right away and you know you get very upset because you feel that we didn't kiss your ass or something please lord take your business elsewhere this is not the shop for you and so that's also part of the honesty that we have with the other customers that like we're very clear like if we think you crossed the line the part the first part of good customer service is being a good customer and if you look at our headscratcher album actually I'm tempted I was gonna post something today but I wasn't able to get the screenshots right in time to see ergo hardware hard care or sugar it is a bit of tough love sometimes and actually it's more me Rafael tells me actually more patient my wife tells me actually more patient sometimes with customers but again that's part of being who we are as a shop our shop identity being honest the headscratcher album we're the only shop that does that because I think sometimes some of the comments idxadik is a joking but I mentioned before that idxadik customers were like idxadik we could retire already like legit idxadik is like up there with being one of the best customers but examples of bad customers or bad inquiries they're not even customers to be honest a lot of those are inquiries we document them in the headscratchers album on our facebook so again yunga we're very consistent in the style we have we're not corporate we're very honest and that permeates everything the facebook posts ako still like the 90% of the facebook posts and things like that that's still me so basically because nobody can censor me that's why we have that stuff there it permeates everything that we do all the videos that we do we're very honest we're very frank but sometimes maybe that is excessive already and that's why apologizing for that particular post not for the post per se but because it wasn't worded properly that maybe people should have thought about it more before jumping in and buying that so yung it's like 22 minutes in this was like one hour about crypto and like 30 minutes about it's like already 50% of the time or slightly thereabouts on the background of the shop and it's like that and why I felt I needed to apologize for that particular post so just to be clear I am sorry for that I'll take it into consideration into the future and it's really an evolving process on like what I think should be on the channel what we should post and things like that because I didn't start out like if somebody had told me like we would have a YouTube channel with this audience I would have laughed in their faces even like a year ago because it's been crazy this ride and I so I'm also learning over time like how to calibrate certain things certain posts and things like that like the last part about being honest and things the people themselves it's hard to post stuff from inquiries and customers because they follow the page they follow the Facebook page so they know usually when you post about them and some people have called me out like they message me personally and things like that but I do explain that I think you are out of line some people I have hurt I know some feelings have been hurt regarding some of the headscratcher posts that I've done so it is a fine line and I'm not going to apologize that's a whole kind of worms should I apologize for certain of those posts to be honest I haven't thought about that the crypto posts has been the one in my mind but you know it's an evolving process like is this too mean like I already censor some of the stuff like unfiltered like I'll be much meaner I'm not a nice guy guys like for the 39 people watching like to be honest like there's some stuff going through here that is not fit for public consumption but that's so basically that's already filtered but yeah it's an evolving process I want to stick with you I want to thank you for sticking with me through this kind of rant thing but yeah I hope the crypto watch portion was useful to you guys please shirts will be available online starting tomorrow on the site I'm sorry I know a lot of the regulars like ITX Addict and gentlemen Parrot I saw your messages briefly in the chat but I couldn't quite focus on it ang hirap kasi yung yaw when you're the one man show oh Kaiser Kaiser is in the house but thanks for ITX Addict but then I saw the thermal take P90 I mean great I mean great case I've talked about it personally with I mean DMs with ITX Addict and that it's a lovely case and another example again of hardware sugar being customized I think we're the only shop that carried that because I just saw that case and I loved it and I told my thermal take supplier I want that case get that for me so yung corp P90 and special order pa'yan from Taiwan we waited a really long time for it to arrive so again yung yaw very very personalized everything about hardware sugar it's very idiosyncratic and very personalized very honest yung curbs is asking it's 450 for the shirt regardless of size there are three designs white and two in black but the other black one has a different design so it's not just like this at a different size alright John Rubin Ocha another of our top fans and regulars in the chat thanks for joining us no BS warranty yes another reason another way that we wanted to do things differently ayon so it's almost about to hit 10 o'clock guys and I promised my wife that I would watch my daughter so I gotta gotta get to my most important job so thanks for watching and for top fans such as John Rubin Ocha and ITX Addict you guys are we're giving you free shirts so please don't feel the need to buy I'll post about it I promise yeah I've been saying oh it's out na it'll be released tomorrow okay it'll be on the store but I've been promising the top fans I'll post about this to you guys since yesterday but I promise I'll be posting about it soon so thanks stay safe hope the crypto watch was educational have a good night guys peace