 Right, good morning everyone. Good morning to our students online as well. Let's begin this time with a word of prayer and then we get into our session. Anyone like to pray? Go ahead Nikhil. Father, we thank you for this time, Lord. Once again we come to your presence, Lord. And as we go to the start of our classes, Father, teach us through the Balsam Lord Jesus. Give us understanding, we can learn your work. Thank you so much. In Jesus name I pray. Amen. Okay, so last class we completed chapter five. We looked at different ways on which we can, you know, have competitive advantage and strategy as an organization. Right now, we get into chapter six. And chapter six is very interesting because we're going to talk about organizational structure and design. Now, let me just present the notes so we can just, when you look at God himself, God is a God of structure and design. Everything that he did was not randomly. He had a structure, he had a design in place. And with structure and design, comes success. Right? If you look at an organization, any organization with no structure or no design is a recipe for disaster. Right? Because nothing is going to happen there. Right? And when you and I are in an organization or leading an organization, we must ensure that a structure and design. Look at, you know, look at where we are. I mean, even if we're in Bible college, we have structure and design. Right? There's a structure. It's not like you can come at 11 o'clock and say, Hey, can I attend the first hour class? Doesn't work that way. Right? There's a, there's a structure set in place. And the reason the structure is set in place is so that things go in an orderly manner. Right? So in this lesson, we're going to look unpack a few of biblical ideas and biblical plans and strategies that we can apply in an organization to bring in structure and design. Right? So when you talk about structure and design, the first thing that comes to our mind is management. Right? So you, if you go to an organization, why do you want structure and design? Just is it because everyone have it? Or is it because we want to see the organization grow and become fruitful? Right? The reason we have it is because we can manage the operations in an organization. Like, like some of you may, you know, be ready to start a church, right? Now, when your church is 20, 30 people, it's all right. But as the church grows, you must have people to manage. You must have people, you must have a structure in place. Right? And then you need a management structure. And then you need to build on the operations of the ministry. Right? Bigger the ministry, bigger is all of these needed, more the management, more the structure. And the same applies to an organization. Right? In case you are working in a corporate sector, you're planning to start a small business. All of this is important. So let's look at what we can learn from chapter six, right? Organizational structure and design must enable the organization to respond quickly. Here, I'm here, right? First, enable the organization to respond quickly to the changing market conditions. Now, here, there are structures, systems and processes within the organization that eliminate bottlenecks. And, you know, we can't always predict what's going to happen in an organization. So that's where, you know, design comes into place. That's where we plan ahead for the things, right, that we are doing. So let's look at a few points. And then we'll try and relate all of this even to ministry. Right? So even as we go through this entire course, don't look at, okay, you know, I'm not going to start my own business. So why am I learning all this? No, even if you join a church or you're starting a church, you will need to apply these in the organization. Right? So there's the ministry side. There's an organizational side. Right? So if we look at our APC, we have the ministry side. What is the ministry side? Pastoral team, sermon notes, Bible college is a ministry side. Then you have the organizational side, media team, IT team, graphics team, lecturers, the Bible college, the entire administration management, right? All of this is required. So if you look at APC, so we have senior pastor, then we have associate pastors, then we have team leaders, team leaders to volunteer leaders, volunteer leaders to volunteers. So there's a hierarchy. Right? And that's why, you know, that enables us to work efficiently as an organization. But then you also got the ministry side. So the ministry side, you have the pastoral team and those who are teaching, they have to prepare themselves, right? In the ministry. So if organizationally, if things don't go well, or it's not structured, it will affect the ministry side. You get what I'm saying, right? If imagine the IT team are not doing, I mean, if it doesn't work out well, if the videos don't come out well and we're not able to post it online, I can teach, but the IT team is required to make this available. So you see that both go together, right? So number one, structure, order and design are godly virtues. 1 Corinthians 1433 and 40. For God is not the author of confusion but of peace as in all the churches of the saints, let all things be done decently and in order. And so God is the God of structure and design. And not only when we look at an organization, but when we look at ourselves, our personal lives, we must have a structure and design in place for the way that we do things, right? So for example, now all of you are Bible college students, you must have a structure, you must have a way of, okay, this is what I am going to do in this week, right? Or this is the timetable that I have that I will follow. Yes, right? Why is it important? Because that is what will bring structure and order into your life. If I don't have structure and order, I am not going to be fruitful. Right? I'm going to be end up doing one hour here, one hour there. It's all going to be a mess, right? So as our own lives as well, bring in structure, right? Bring in an order in your life so that when you are, you know, whether it's ministry, whether it's leading an organization, you know how to lead it well. Yes, right? Now this structure changes over time. Right? So for example, you know, when I was not married, I had a certain structure in my life, okay? These, get up for prayer, these are the things I'll do this many hours reading the word, this many hours of, you know, just praying and getting into studying the word. So I had a whole structure in place, right? Now after getting married and you have children, that structure changes. I can't say, I can't do the same thing, right? But you work out on what is convenient for you, right? When we see in all creation, God is a God of creation, of design and structure. God established it. He maintained order. When we maintain structure and order, there is peace, harmony and the purpose of the institution is accomplished. When God created the heavens, He created it in order. Yes, six days and there was so much of order in what He did. Seven days He chose to rest, right? It did not happen randomly, but when God created, He did it intentionally. And that is why when you and I are working in an organization, we intentionally build a structure, have a structure in place, right? So sometimes, so what happens here, just giving this example, right? So after the break, after Bible college gets over, you know, we, the topics are sent to us, right? The courses which are, which we are going to teach. And so what we do is we're going to first, okay, make sure, okay, what are the days that I'm there, right? So I align my other work, structure it up, right? So these are the days I'm here. And this is what I must do on the other days. And you know, these are the hours that I need to prepare for the topic. And everything is done before time. It's not like last minute, okay, where's my book prepared now, right? So structure order and design helps fulfill a purpose, right? And when you and I have a purpose, we must have structure and order, right? Now, where there is no purpose, there is no structure and order. Have you seen, I always say this, right? We've seen people randomly going through things in life. There's no, there's no purpose, right? And that's not what we are called for. God has a purpose for us. So we, what we are doing is we're giving God the glory when we put in a structure in our life. Yes? Okay, let's look at number two. Align organizational structure to strategy, right? Numbers one and 52. The rest of the Israelites shall set up camp company by company, and each man with his own group and under his own banner. And look at this, the people of Israel have come out of Egypt. And by the time it's, you know, they've come to this place, the people of Israel are very upset, right? Because they want actually in numbers, if you, if you read it, they say, let us go back. Let's find the leader. Forget about Moses and Joshua and all that. We'll find the leader and we'll go back to Egypt. They've come to that situation, right? Because Moses was unable to handle these people. And God gives Moses this idea, he says, bring in structure in the camp. So what do you do? They, you're supposed to, you know, for example, I'm just giving this example, right? So there are 12 tribes of Israel. So all the 12, first divide them into tribes. So you know who's doing what or which tribe is camped who where, right? Look at numbers 10, 13 and 14. Anyone like to read that? Numbers 10, 13 and 14. They begin to mass at the command of the Lord through Moses. And each time they moved, they were in the same order. Those under the band of the division led by the tribe of Judah start out, start out first company by company with Nahashon son of Aminadab is in command. We have it there. God gave Moses this instruction. Number one, you lead about 600,000 people in an orderly manner in the, in their journey into the promised land. Okay. So how many people are there? 600,000, 6,000,000 people, right? Now, each of the 12 tribes had one leader. So there are 12 tribes. Each tribe had one leader who directly reported to Moses. So now it's changed. Remember Moses was trying to handle all the small problems that was going on. So now God is saying, no, you don't do that. Have the 12 tribes have one leader that one leader will report to you. Whatever the whole problem in that tribe, this person will report to you, right? Then when they camped, three tribes camped on the four sides of the tabernacle. So you got 12, you got three tribes, you got the tabernacle right in the middle, right? And you got four sides. It's a square. So three, three, three and three. Now who's giving these instructions? Did God say, okay, as long as you get into the promised land, that's what I promised Abraham. I told Abraham, we'll get into the promised land. How you do it is yours. No. So God said, one leader, each tribe, you've got the tabernacle, four corners, three tribes in each corner, right? Then he goes on. Which tribe, sorry, when they camped, three tribes camped on each of the four sides, which tribe on which side of the tabernacle and in which order was clearly given. So when they moved, there was proper order tribe by tribe in how they moved, right? They also had different kinds of trumpet sounds, different, one kind of trumpet blast to gather the leaders, another kind of trumpet blast to gather the entire community and another kind of blast to start the movement of camp. This organizational structure was a clear strategy on how they could effectively enter the promised land. You see the wisdom there? You've got 12 leaders, three tribes in each side and God is telling and the people there are saying, there are three different, there are different kinds of trumpets. One trumpet was to gather the leaders, another trumpet was to gather the entire community. So for example, Moses wanted to speak to the tribe of Benjamin. So there was a certain trumpet. So that leader will come or he wanted to speak to the whole community. The entire tribe wanted, so there's a trumpet and the entire tribe would come. So now Moses is not thinking, okay, how do I reach out to these people? He's not going and searching for the leader. Where is the leader? No, there's a trumpet. And then there was a trumpet sound also for if we had to move, now they're on the go. They have to get into the promised land. So there was a trumpet sound. Okay, that means everyone get ready. We have to move. And so if you read numbers, there are also trumpet sounds for battle. There were trumpet sounds for when people had to come to the Ark of the Covenant or to the Tabernacle. There were different trumpet sounds. Now, why was all this in place to bring in structure and design? And this way, it was more effective. So if you look at when God, you know, when Moses came out from Egypt to like, you see Exodus from the Exodus to the time numbers, you know, 10, there's a vast difference. Initially, they just came out. There was no structure. There was nothing. But over time, God brought in this structure. God used Moses. God used Moses' father-in-law to give him ideas, right? God used Joshua and Caleb to bring in strategies. And eventually they were able to enter the promised land. Organizational structure and design determines where people are positioned, a chain of command, systems, processes in place. Let me share this with you. This is what we do in ABC. For example, we have a conference coming up, any conference. Let's take the example of men's conference. We have a men's conference coming up in, I think it's June 18th, June 18th. Men's conference. Now, it is not like, you know, okay, we have men's conference announcement comes up on the Sunday 7 registration link. No. No. You know, we work six months ahead. So now six months ahead, the banner, the speaker, everything is already decided, right? Then the entry in the third month. So for example, this is June, right? So March 18th, our first announcement goes on the Sunday video announcements. This is men's conference. This is the date. This is the speaker. This is the theme. This is the registration link. Please go ahead and register. The moment that is done, the next day is a Monday. We send a save the date email. So an email has gone to all the men 18 years in a bar to save the date, right? Then that is in March. Then in April, second announcements run, right? A Sunday announcement. Then we send a first WhatsApp reminder. And then proudly we send a second email with the link, right? And what is the third one? So you got, so there's March, April. Now we got May. May, you have your third Sunday video announcements, right? After third announcement, you have your emailer once again with the registration link. And maybe one week before the event, WhatsApp message is sent with final reminder. Please register. Now all of this takes place. You know, I was just preparing the email to send it out, right? All of this takes place, not alone. So one, if I send it now, then you've got the graphics team who has to prepare the graphics. And you got the IT team who got to put that in the website, church website. Then you got the social digital marketing. So you got Facebook, Instagram, our digital, you know, platforms, we posted there. And then you got ID team, you know, I've got a team of people who will look at registrations. We've done all of this. What if there are less registrations? So we have coordinators who will call people, right? Say, so this is the thing we call our life group leaders, we call. So everything is happening together. And that's when a conference can be successful. It doesn't happen overnight. It's not like the link goes out, everyone register and everyone are happy. It doesn't work that way. Because remember, we are, it's a, it's a, you know, everyone are working. It's one Saturday. Everyone want to, you know, rest on the Saturday. But we need to make it in a way that they are excited to come for the conference, right? We need to help them to understand that, okay, you are going to benefit from it. Right. So all of these things has to be done. Right. And if this is not done, then we may not see fruit. And that's where organizational structure you bring in strategy to the organization. Even already we started working on CLC 2025. We've got the team. We've got the speakers. Everything is ready. The venue is not booked because we are looking to have a bigger, you know, venue, but everything is ready. The speakers, the timetable, the agenda, the food, the save the date, email us. Everything is ready for what? Jan 2025. I've got topics ready for men's conference 2025. The topics ready for life group leaders' trainings for 2025, 2026. It's all ready. Right. But it's ready on paper. But I need people, organizational structure to get that done. Yes. Right. And so that's why to be successful, we need to do all of this. Right. Then you've got organizational design affects the strategic capability and sustainability. What is the meaning of sustainability? The word sustainability. Sorry. Yes. Last thing. You can start something and it can just fizzle out and die out very quickly. But if you want to sustain something, you need structure. Right. Let's read this portion from First Chronicles, chapter 16, verse four and verse 37. Anyone would like to read? Then David assigned sons of the Levites with the chest of God to lead worship, to intercede, give thanks and praise the God of Israel. David left Asap as his co-worker with the chest of the covenant of God and in charge of the work of worship, they were responsible for the needs of worship around the clock. David became the king of Israel. After becoming the king, the first thing he did is what? He brought the ark of the covenant back to Israel. And what did he do? He didn't say, okay, the covenant has come here. Now let it be here. So it's sitting in the temple. No. He desired for non-stop worship to happen in the tent. So what did David do? He organized 4,000 people to attend the tabernacle. 4,000 people, 4,000 musicians, 288 prophetic singers to serve in the tabernacle. Okay. They were again divided into 24 smaller units, groups of teams of musicians and singers. Basically, what did David do? He made rosters. Right. You got 4,000 people. Now in this 4,000 people, many of them are singers, musicians, everything, but separately he had 288 prophetic singers. So then he made worship rosters. First 4 hours in the morning, you go. Next 4 hours. Next 4 hours. And this happened 24 by 7. Is it easy to sustain? It's tiring, but he knew how to do it. Now being the king, what is David's, what is he? What's his skills? Looking after sheep? Did he learn about organizational structure? No, God gave him the wisdom. God gave him the wisdom. See what he did. These leaders were appointed to maintain order in everything. So he didn't say, you go and do it, but he had leaders. Okay, you make sure it's done. All the musicians and singers were highly skilled. So there was excellence in all that was done. This is something that we want to do. Right. So why do we have, you know how I think Roshan would be better to explain this, but I just share it. You audition for the worship team. If you want to audition for an instrument, an APCA of the worship team, first thing you have a pre-auditioning meeting. You meet with them, meet with the leaders. So you meet with everyone and then they tell you what you have to do. Then you audition. The songs are given to you. Then you audition. If you play it wrong, you're not selected. It's very simple. Right. An email is sent, but you're not selected. Please try another time. It's very simple. There's no, okay, God loves you and all. God loves you. God will always continue to love you. Okay. That's there. Skill. You're not selected. You're not selected. Very simple. Go back, learn, get, do it well, learn the song, play it well. You'll get selected. So if you're selected, then you have three months where the, so for example, I'm selected with electric guitar. So I'll have to go for the practice sessions. So for example, there's a practice session every Saturdays or Fridays whenever the worship team. So I'll have to go as an electric guitarist. I have to sit and watch for three months. You can't talk. You can't talk. You can't say, I want to play. No, three months. You have to sit and be there. Three months. It was initially six months. We made a three months. Three months. You have to just be there. Now if you miss those practice sessions, that three months will become four months. Four months will become five months. Now, why are we doing this? Because we understand that when you're doing it, we want to see sustainability. Right? We want to see people who know what is a vision and why we are doing this. Right? It's not, you're not here only for your skill. We also want to see commitment. We also want to see, you know, humility. And that's what David did here. He, the worship at the Tabernacle went on for 24-7 for how many years? 33 years. That is called sustainability. Right? 4,000 people, two 88 prophetic singers, 24 teams, one leader in each team, rosters were made throughout 24-7 worship for 33 years. So when you and I start something or we're working in an organization, always look at sustainability. Is this process that I'm doing going to sustain the ministry? Or is this process that I'm following going to sustain the work that I'm doing? If it's not going to sustain, change it. Try different things. Right? You know, when we had, when we started off as live group with live groups, we were about 10 live groups in 20, 15 or we were about 10 or 11 live groups. And now I had to think about ideas on how to get people to start live groups. Right? How do I get them interested? How do I get them to know that live groups are important? We need live groups. Right? So we had to come up with ideas, strategies and what are the ways I can sustain this live group ministry. And you know, over time, I made mistakes, but I learned and we got a structure in place. And now the live group ministry is just growing. We have more than 41 live groups right now, strong live groups reaching out all across Bangalore. Right? And we're only going to grow and sustainability. When I look at 2026, 2027, what is this ministry going to look like? Right? And you bring in those plans and strategies. Right? Next one. Very important. Have the right teams in place. Let's read first chronicles that entire portion there. First chronicles chapter 12 verse 17, 18, 21 to 22. David went to meet them and said, if you are coming as friends to help me, you're welcome here. Join us. But if you intend to betray me to my enemies, even though I have not tried to hurt you, the God of our ancestors will know it and punish you. God's spirit took control of one of them. I must say who later became the commander of the 30 and he called out David, son of Jesse, we are yours. Success to you and those who help you. God is on your side. David welcomed them and made them officers in his army. They served David as officers over his troops because they were all outstanding soldiers. Later they were officers in the Israelite army. Almost every day, new men joined David forces so that his army was soon enormous. David is not yet the king. That's going to 12. But the people, some of the people came and said, David, we are with you. Whatever you tell us to do, we'll do. We are in your army. Now, David had nothing with him. He was hiding. He was not like he was king. But these people came and said, we are with you. We are yours. Whatever you tell us to do, we'll do. It was like God sent the people to David. But what did David do? He used wisdom. He didn't say, okay, just sit around. Let's plan out. Once I become king, what we'll do. No. Look at what he did. David, one of the things we see David do is he brought the right teams in place and he built capacity and organized them into strong units. So what did he do? He built the right teams. Was he king? Not yet. Was he going out to fight? Not yet. But in his mind, he had already planned, okay, if I'm going to be the king, I need to build right teams. So it was more like a practice, what he was doing here. What did he do? He organized them into strong units. And as David built his army, he assembled outstanding soldiers to lead his troops. So David had a special 37 warriors to oversee his army. So I think they were about, the number is not given here, but I think there were about 4,000 people who, 4,000, we can just double check that. So there were probably about hundreds of people easily, who came to David. And now he's got 37 special warriors who oversaw the entire army. So you got David, the leader, 37 warriors. They looked after the entire army. So he built a team of 37 people who will report to him. And then out of these 37, there was a famous 30. So look at the hierarchy. David, 37. Then he had a 30. And out of this 30 was the famous three who were the most valiant soldiers. So that means wherever David went, those three were there. Or whatever decision David made, he checked with those three. Those three were the closest. And you see that hierarchy? He built teams. 37. Then he had a 30. Then he had a three. And he was, then he was overseeing all of them. So bigger the problem, he would go to those three. Say, okay, what do we do? The problem is not very big. He would probably go to the 30 of it's not when that he'll tell the 30 people, hey, just talk to the 37 of them, get it resolved and keep the work going on. You see how he brought right teams in place? Very, very, very important. The you, if you are starting a ministry, have the right people and the right teams in place. Start off with the right teams. These are the teams I'm going to have. And then you get people to fill in those teams, right? Right teams in right places. The team with people who are really good at what they do and know how to work well together will eventually succeed. Any, okay, for example, you look at on Sunday morning, right? On Christmas, Christmas or New Year, I was in awe of the production. It was such a, everything was so well produced, right? Everything, right? Like a production. Beautiful. Worship went into the, of course, it happens every time, but the way it was just done, it was so wonderful. And it was all teamwork. We go up with the mic and hold the mic, but everything should be, it was just so much of, you know, teams working together to get this done, right? Getting the right people and putting the right teams in place is an easy, is not an easy task. It takes time, right? If you look at ministry, you will have people who will come, people may leave, right? And it's part of life, right? You know, we may have people who we feel that, okay, they'll be there with us, but they may leave and go. It's okay, right? Get the right people. Move on. We cannot stop what God is doing, right? Get the right teams and it takes time, but there can be ups and downs in this journey. But eventually, you'll have the right teams in the right place carrying out the right work. And that is your recipe for success. The right teams, the right people in the right structure, you will succeed. There's no way you'll not succeed. Now, again, success is measured in different ways, right? You can have a conference with 100 people and the conference can be very successful because you minister to all 100 of them. All 100 people are blessed. They go back and they want to do something. You can have a conference at 500, yet it may not have been very effective, right? So you look at success, not only on numbers, but how you've been able to impact people, how you're able to build teams and speak into people's lives, right? Sometimes your best teams begins with the most unlikely. Let's read that. First Samuel, 21, 1 and 2. First Samuel, 22, first 1 and 2. David fled from the city of Gath and went to a cave near the town of Adulam. When his brothers and the rest of his family heard that he was there, they joined him. People who were oppressed or in debt or dissatisfied went to him, about 400 men in all and he became their leader. Yes, so it's not 4,000 but it's 400 men, right? So 400 men came to him and said, we're under you, right? We want to be under your leadership and did David think about it? Right? Look at verse one and says, David fled from the city of Gath and went to a cave. He's a fugitive. He's running away, but this 400 people came and said, we want to be under your leadership. Can you picture what David would have been feeling? Why? Why do you want to see if what if I die, what if Saul catches me and kills me? All these thoughts may have come to his mind, but remember that our best team sometimes begins with those who we think are not the right people. Sometimes we may think, okay, this person may not do it. Let me give you this example. In Mangalore, right? When we started off, we were about 10 people in the church. And so one Sunday, this young man came in. He's a college student. He came in late and he was very casual. So he was new to church and he was very casual. Just after church, I said, hi, maybe we're only about 10, 12 of us. I said, hi, thank you for coming. Then he was saying, you know what? I'm from Odisha and my father is a pastor and all of it. He said, see, but I'm very busy. I may not come to church and said, yeah, that's fine. So he didn't come the next Sunday. And then the Sunday after that, he came to church. He came on time and he was sitting. So after that, every Sunday he was coming. And so he eventually told me, what can I do in the church? I know that we are very small. What can I do? I said, okay, can you do the PPT because I need somebody to come early, set up the PPT, the song lyrics. He said, yeah, I can do that. Now, initially, when I looked at him, I felt he's not somebody who can be here. He was very casual, right? He was not very interested. And you can make out, right? When a person is interested in church and, but surprisingly, he would be the first one to come to church because he had the laptop with him, right? So he would come. He would open the church. He would shut up the laptop, everything. Every Sunday he was there. Then what he said was, you know, there's a lot of dust here. Can I clean the place? And he did that also. And then he would say, Pastor, can we go out on outreach? I know some places and he would come with me. Eventually, he was like the one person who was there for everything for me, right? If I needed any help in anything, he was there. When his day prayers in the evening, he was there. He will open the place, put the room fresh, everything, set the chairs, keep it ready. But in my mind, I felt that this guy, but he became a very strong asset to the church. He did everything. If anything needed repairs, he would go. We had a stage brought from another place. He made sure that he got the measurements because the carpet done. He did everything. What am I trying to say? Sometimes we look at people and think he or she may not be the right person. Unless we give them an opportunity, we may not know it, right? David, 400 people came to him and said, we will follow you. David didn't say, okay, you know, you'll go back my life only. I'm only going through problem. How will I look after you 400? No. He said, okay, this is a good opportunity. One day I'm going to be king, right? So let's start with what God has given me and he was able to build teams there. Believe in your team and see beyond their current struggles. Mark 16, 9 through 15, let's read that. Now, when she was early on the 1st day of the week, he appeared first to marry Magdalen, out of whom he had cast seven demons. She went and told those who had been with him, asked them all and ripped. And when they heard that he was alive and had seen by her, they did not believe. After that, he appeared in another form to do of them as they walked and went into the country and they went and told it to the rest, but they did not believe them either. Later, he appeared to the 11 as they sat at the table and he revealed their unbelief and hardness of heart because they did not believe those who had seen him after he had risen and he said to them, going to all the world and to preach the gospel of to every creature. In ministry, this is something that we all must learn. Look at Jesus. He had 12, 11 people now because Judas had committed suicide. 11 of them lost his to Jesus, spent three and a half years with Jesus. Jesus also told them that he's going to die, but he will resurrect again. Now, the crucifixion has happened. Jesus has dead. They buried him and all 11 of them did not believe that Jesus came back is resurrected. All 11 of them did not believe. Why? Because they know that Jesus was crucified. Now, what's happening? They're thinking naturally. I don't know. We saw him crucified. So, the initial reports that came in, hey, you know what? The tomb is empty. They did not believe initially. It took them some time. Now, these are the men who are closest to Jesus. Jesus didn't, you know, Jesus was, they probably sought Jesus from the morning to night and they stayed with Jesus, but they were in a season of unbelief. And here's what Jesus did. He called those same 11 people who did not believe. He directed them. He rebuked them for their disbelief and he exhorted them and he gave the same 11 people the commission and said, what? Go and make disciples. Now, is he giving them an important task or is it a simple task? Now, if we don't go and share the gospel, all that Jesus did will end over there only. So, it was a very important task, very important mandate. Jesus trusted them even though they didn't believe in Jesus. You see that? So, as leaders, we must find this ability to believe in our, in your people, believe in your people, believe in your team. Jesus went past their current struggles. He knew that once that moment of disbelief goes, they will do anything for God, that they were equipped and empowered, that they will give their lives for the vision that he's placing before them. It was just that season. I can always picture Peter. Why was he not at the cross? You can hear everything. At least, okay. Others, okay. Why was Peter not there at the cross? Peter, James and John. John was there. What about Peter and James? Why were they not there? They're closest to Jesus, right? As far as we know, Jesus took Peter, James and John everywhere. Peter was not there, right? But you just picture that, right? But Jesus is saying, it's just a season for him. But I know what Peter will do. Once this season of disbelief goes, I know what Peter can do. And so, Peter, Jesus believed in Peter. You and I must believe in our team because we've invested in them. I believe in you. So, for example, you go back and you're ministering to people. It's been five years. Believe in the people that you have ministered to because you've invested in their lives. Now, they may be there with you. They may go out elsewhere and do something on their own, but believe that they will be fruitful for the kingdom of God, right? Don't quit on them. See beyond their current struggles. And I would say, this has happened to me many, many, many times. The first time I was asked to preach in one of the locations, I preached. I don't know what I preached. I was so nervous. And all of them were there and it was quite embarrassing because more than anything I was looking with, I'm saying the right thing or what. I thought I'll never get an opportunity again. But I knew, but thank God for godly leaders and the opportunity was given. But I made sure that the second time I don't repeat the same mistakes. So, believe in your team. And I remember I was talking to this life group leader and I went to this life group and this life group leader was going on talking. And after the whole meeting, I said, hey, life group is not for you to talk. It's for others to talk. It's a discussion. I was quite upset, but I knew that he's a good leader and he can do really well. So I told him, see, it's not for you to talk. Others should talk. Nobody wants to know about your testimony and all of that in the life. But then changed. And he started in the life group just grew bigger. And then we had to split the group into two because it was very big. And then people were so blessed, great leadership. So we see beyond their struggles and help them to grow. Okay, we'll take a break. We'll come back. And then we'll continue from where we stopped.