 What's the process of imagining, I am just sitting here imagining, what's the whole process of having a foreigner come to Kenya technologically that is from where they sit in Iran, what's the whole entire process of entering India? Not only being in Iran, we also get some other clients from different countries and by using social media mostly IG and Facebook and now we are on TikTok also TikTok is giving us business so by doing a lot of advertisement and also after advertisement maybe a client will come across our social media and they check and to what we are offering our packages and all this stuff and maybe they get interested doing a safari with us or they try us and then we'll now come down on board with the client and then we start communicating and we give them our best package from transport we try transport pack fees, accommodation and whatever else they need and then if they if our package suits them then they go on and pay for the safari and we can do safari with them. Amazing, so do you have a specific software specific platform they make booking from you know get to book themselves get their visa get their passport ensure they're traveling documentary in check? At the moment we don't have the software but we are working on having one but we just communicate direct and we relay the trust and especially with Iranians I've laid a lot of trust with them one because Iranians cannot send you money direct maybe to your account on maybe by maybe by wiring the money western union or this stuff so most of it I'll use money from this side I pay for their visas if they are coming we pay for maybe the accommodation and then after paying for the visa now you know that the client is coming because they love to send you all the details and when they come they come with their money whatever you've agreed they'll pay they'll come with the money they pay you and you're good to go it's all about trust we we we we we we work with trust with Iranian and Iranian you'd see they are the Muslim country and the Muslims they don't love aram they love everything straight and with them we've laid trust with Iranians and there are several companies in Iran that I work and in and with them we have an office in Iran okay have you have you ever been in a place where you've been scammed? of course yes who do you handle that? you get scammed and yeah you just appreciate and poli say mou kikuja nai robinu kusia kukoni wa badu razi mou chanu liwe wa geni utu chanu wa piyasi atini wazuri una fanyam geni kila kitu and then eventually they don't they don't show up kumbi wa lu kwa nata katu pesa hako and yeah so una skami wa tuna una kubali kubali kwi ingia box una ingia too but we are mahali nimefika it is hard for you to scam me so we are we are smart so we have to work smart yeah how has your experience been over the years? a lot of therapy me for me safari and my company and my team in the office I guess napata a lot of therapy and safari is the best I mean when you're traveling let me put it traveling and especially traveling you meet a lot of people una kutana na hatusi tofu uti you meet you get to see a lot of nature una skia badu kukijana na kama mi nimze but somebody cannot tell yeah it's an experience going on a safari what would what would be your opinion of the current trends in the traveling sector or rather in the tourism sector? watu hacheze kama hao that's what I can say you do your best you promote your country you promote what you are doing and you give back to the community that's what I can say what do you predict that the market or rather the future of tourism in Kenya is is headed towards we are going on an higher level tourism in Kenya is gonna be in fact tourism in Kenya has been a big thing and we as I look at it at the moment at the technology because everyone globally is becoming smarter through technology we are going we will go for we will grow big tourism Kenya is going to grow big and especially when we adapt technology 100 percent then tuta handan bali technology nowadays is everything kwa sabu mgenya naiza buk safari online kwa simutu kama wewe uji kutumia technology bus so if we adapt technology everywhere in tourism from hotel, parks, our national parks, our game reserves and our tour companies then yeah tuta inua tourism Kenya now tuta handan bali uwewe kwa in your own opinion the technological aspect or rather the technological strides that Kenya has made in terms over ensuring that tourism has been given a bit over spearheading in the in the industry and outside there what do you think would be bettered in terms of technology what can we do better to empower empower everybody agencies like you to empower tourists to empower the tourism sector in Kenya we get we get the government need to get to empower everybody in the tourism industry regarding technology and when we get empowered then we will take a step forward and also if the tourism ministry would involve everybody in empowering you see like we have a lot of people in tourism na tunawale wana jifanya mabuenye nyesana kwa tourism ambawakuna vikundim balimbali wana they try to control everything but wana saho ya kwa mbapia uku chini kuna to operators ambawakuna kwa chini nwa najaribu kuinuka so if all of us ulewa chini yulem kubwa ulewa katikati sirikali neza kutuleta on board and we get empowered all of us then tourism tourism uskili amalipa kubwa kwa uchumi wa iinchi so it's the government to through a minister of tourism to empower the two operators the hoteliers and everybody who is under the umbrella of tourism and now we appreciate we have a new see us for tourism i was going there i was actually going there what do you anticipate mutua will change or mutua will do mutua is a young man is very energetic and is smart mutua is a smart guy you can see what he has done in machako ze atakama siya saki dogo but aingi kwa tourism na ingi na migu yote miwili na ause iinchi let him let him sell this country let him not sleep on the in the office let him sell Kenya and let him empower everybody in tourism asi asi tenge atatua guides let him mutua maliuko tiaza ka aveve na jwa unaeza ecotourism involves traveling to destination with cultural heritage and i think one of the one of the one of the things that were mentioned in a conversation i was going through yesterday was that we should involve culture as part of our tourism aspect what is your opinion about that exact we should involve culture um for the years i've gone on safari or for the years i've been in tourism we've been talking about uh the masai and uh the samburu and the truckanas is the most leading culture that we showcase to our our tourist south side there even locally but we forgetting that we have other tribes in Kenya so we need to sell tourism to all corners of this country and we involve all the cultures because i know hi being uh from my tribe we have our own culture let us not kill our culture and we rely on na tukona wukambani na tuko kwa kikuyu piya tukona kua meru a meru a kuna traditione so let us involve all our our cultures into tourism and i guess we will go somewhere because when you go to kiambu there are some things you're going to see that are very cultural so it is us as Kenyans we we we revive our culture let us not kill our culture let us revive it and sell it all over the world and yeah we will grow so i'm picking from what you're sharing a lot of us rather a lot of the tourism sector what we have seen you people do people in the tourism is to sell Kenya so much to the outside community and you forgot you forget the domestic travelers so what are you doing about that uh let me say we haven't forgotten let me say we haven't forgotten anyway before before kovid before kovid miungemi ami yati na yanda zafari nam kenya nge feel kakitu nge lakini after kovid came to kafungiwa kwa manyumba gezu supported tourism locals our Kenyan brothers our Kenyan sisters our Kenyan mothers our fathers our local grandpas and grandmothers they went on safari like there's nobody's business and we really saw Kenyans they woke up but after kovid to lipe reka wengu no nam tu na shitu ka but i appreciate Kenyans and we are working with also local tourism yeah we have a lot we a lot of requests wana ta kwenda safari ataka masi masimara masi kwenda nakurgo somewhere wana ta kwenda mombasa wana ta kwa faniye they want like you do all the booking from hotel in mombasa transportation from Nairobi to mombasa and back how they are going to stay how they are going to move wana ta kwa faniye them is to go and relax the rest you do and they pay you that's it and i appreciate Kenyan the local tourism do you feel like there's more we can do as domestic tourists to help in pushing the tourism sector out there yes all we need to do like we two operators will we need to also mind about our brothers and sisters here in Kenya if they want to go on safari we need to give them the best rates the best they can let us not kill our our our our people to apatia the best rates that they can afford so that they may go on safari or they go they may go outside there to more not when you are going to Dubai when you are going to Zanzibu and give one hand the Maldives because one apatare Timzuri so if we can do that more and more and more we can take our people see let us not have that mentality yakwamba it's only muzungu can afford to go on safari in fact you are more rich than wazungus we are very rich Kenyans we are very rich kusimu ukweli they come and they get surprised when uh when i'm to kwa airport and then hey this is kandil kwa afkiri these guys are poor see how this the buildings and a lot of traffic on the road and how you guys and i'm a foot and yo yo wana wana kwe li mkuna pese so we can utilize our our money we can save kidogo kidogo for this and kidogo for that and we go on safari you've highlighted a very important aspect in ilkwena enda through the back of my mind as as we were talking the aspect of money how affordable is kidogo kidogo kidogo kidogo kidogo kidogo kidogo the the the list three days safari you can go maybe to amboseli masahimara samburu nakuru the list you can pay kili pa like 14 000 yo kuna accommodation kuna transport nukuna game driver for three days per person sharing so if you pay 14 000 mimi kujemkiwa wa to sit ana wa pereka safari vizuri komfotabu ana wa pereka kwa hotelimu nalala wana kula breakfast lunch and dinner and then wana enjoy safari so we can kidogo kidogo we can save at least see oni uh i know kuna wale wa kenya wazi afod kuna watu wakochini lakini if you come to me me i love supporting i love helping because i know my background if you come to me and i'm be a mzae kwa they call me mzae mzae mzae mazeni me fikisha kitu kama nikona kwa kitu ngiri nane ataku enda safari what can you do for us then neither kukufi tinsama na nismami yo garama yes so sita kata kuku pereka safari kwa sa umu kudya tesakui kolesa i'll take you because i know what it takes kufi kisha yo do but also to see kunyo sana tu sa kwa enda safari because we spend a lot of money kwa kwa happy na atutaki kujitibu sisi so kujitibu piya kwa enda safari it's a therapy when you're going on a safari um what what factors are affecting the tourism sector positively negatively positively covid imeisha na tunainuka i've seen this year we've uh we've done a lot of safaris nima na wagen niwengi both local and international negatively ila kitu ningezema na na na rates is a pack fiziki yongezeka especially masahimara masahimara na se ma pack fita kwa kwanzia next year somebody will pay like a citizen will pay 5000 pack fee for a day and genwa injata li pa between 100 dollar and 200 dollars per day that is a lot of money it's a lot so iwe na eza gonga negatively na eza tu gonga kibiyashara kwa sabu tanzakwa nbiyajem geni pack fini dola miambili okay atata kakulipa but piya wageni wana fini kasi ati wakuna pesa vile so negatively to see pandisha pack fee negatively tu jaribu kumentein pack zetu tu jaribu kumentein barabaraza pack zetu na tu jaribu piya kujatu pamoja kama familiar moja under the umbrella of tourism last week was we commemorated the world tourism day and i think i had a conversation here and someone was one of the issues that were emerging was the fact that we have sold one part of Kenya as a tourist attraction site as a tourist destination as a tourist you know so what are you doing in the tourism sector to ensure that it's not just one place whereas there are so many other things to see in kenya for me and my company let me speak for myself and my company we mostly we sell masayimara masayimara is after it was termed being put in under the eight wonders of the world a lot of people request for masayimara but for for me we are we are going the opposite direction to although we have a little of masayimara but we have also samburu we have all pajeta and we have meru national park in fact meru meru national park is one of one of my favorite parks because meru you will get everything you will get all the big five in meru and we are also focusing on going west and side of the country we have several uh uh touristic attraction you feel like the government is um other than now they reshuffle and waiting to see what the new seers will do in the tourism sector but you feel the government is supporting does enough to support tourism sector and sell kenya as a traveling destination yeah the government the government is trying let me say let me put it it's trying to sell the country but also depends on the seers if the seers is is not of the tourism sector then i guess uh we go the wrong way but if we can if we have somebody when yako na interest naturism then i guess we'll go somewhere and i hope seers muntua yako na interest naturism because you also do somebody does something that he loves or she loves so so muntua kipenda naturism then to try na bali and the government will uh the resources if tourism gets uh the ministry of tourism gets a lot of resources from the government then yeah because uh tourism in aleta pesa mingi kenya it brings a lot of money in kenya yeah um what will do um advice um a tourist whether domestic or international when they are considering for um i'm referring this to last week conversation still about commemorating the wild tourism day one of the highlighted issues during that time was the traveling times especially with the global warming and the climate climatic conditions changing kula time to kwa tunana indio time yam wasaseme kwa ni time major indio time major so what will do what will do you say as prime times for people traveling whether into the country or outside the country i guess in kenya uh whether it's raining or it's not raining uh safari is always the best uh whether it's very hot or it's very cold uh safari is always the best so all i can tell is um it depends with the season we have the low season high season and peak season and when i'm saying that it will depend with your pocket if you're coming for low season the budget is low if you're coming for high season the budget is a bit higher if you're coming for peak season the budget is very high so uh about the climate change and everything whether it's raining or it's not raining safari is in fact it is adventurous when you're doing safari when it's raining yeah when you are driving on the car decide i'm not going that way i'm coming i'm going this direction yeah and a lot of wageni love uh they are that adventure so i can advise people especially when you're coming and you're going to safari uh safari safari any time of the day any time of the month any time of the year it is safari amazing as we bring this conversation to our close predict for us the future of tourism in kenya in kenya um we will grow to about 95 percent the growth is going to be up there and uh we will receive a lot of tourism if we decide to go the opposite direction let us not focus on europe america german france i mean midwist we can go the opposite direction we try and source clan from all over even our neighboring countries there is somebody in tanzania want to come into in kenya they want to see what is this kenyas that we don't have even in Uganda they can come let us focus on selling tourism especially the touristic attraction let us sell it uh in uh different ways and in in different countries and different places and we let us market it let us market kenya devotedly we will go to about 95 percent yeah growth when you're not traveling what do you love doing charity charity i love giving back to the community i love giving back to the community uh there is a there is a group we work with an NGO it's called kibwezuel wishes um we give education health and we give we plant environment we planting a lot of tree we are planting a lot of tree we want to regreen the country where we destroyed our forest uh we we we are trying to regreen it so i love giving back to the society by those three things how does your day look like and that's you'll never know in fact in my office always you are none in your boss kusabu sisi tukotim so my day is always squeezed nakinisi sana napata time amazing asante sana thank you for making time to talk to us you want to give us your social media handles oh yes yes you can find us on ig facebook uh tiktok where else yeah uh uncle eto asen travel our website is www.uncole eto asen travel.co.ke our number 0722 triple 6 8 36 give us a call we'll arrange a safari for you we give you the best in fact our motto is travel discover and repeat so you repeat you repeat because you've enjoyed our safari you've enjoyed the safari with us thank you asante sana for making time we appreciate we appreciate your time karibu that was drawing le CEO uncle etu as talking to us about the trending emerging issues in the tourism sector don't touch that dial Stephanie is coming back video na cha pokazi wanyangu wu zazi