 All right, welcome to Vlog Thursday number 360 I was actually editing it at the same time because I realized I'm like Oh, I still have the branding pulled up for the homelab show All right, so let me Mute all the things There we go. Oh If it wasn't for the last minute, I wouldn't get anything done. That's why it always takes it a last minute I'm actually uploading a video right now, which is the review of the r86 pro I finished it and I uploaded it and then now I'm doing this So I'll actually hit publish when I make a thumbnail or finish a thumbnail I had an idea to take different pictures of this little device and the review will be live I don't know if I should make it live tonight or tomorrow Hmm, I'll let the people Drive that decision for me because I don't know if it's better to release at night There's always a debate about that majority of the content I do is what they refer to as evergreen as in it's not breaking news It's relevant a week two weeks sometimes even longer amounts of time Because people are interested in this not only when it first comes out But also a while after it comes out So I am I'll publish it tonight That seems reasonable unless someone thinks I'm wrong about that usually people always want to see the video sooner, so Ah First first here. Thanks for holding those. I have a Synology 920 and proxmox VM host I planned another cluster would you say set VM storage to NAS or keep the NAS for backup? It's kind of a split depends on if you have You know extra space It's nice to have the storage somewhere else, but it kind of depends on how you want to set it up you really start getting the benefit of External storage when you have multiple hosts on a shared storage system because then you can just tell the VMs to migrate easily to another host And that makes it kind of simple because the storage is shared between two separate proxmox hosts I'm pretty sure proxmox works the same as most other virtualizations And it only has to move the running memory over to the other device So if you aren't doing that or you're not storage constrained on the device itself Um, you can just keep running it on the device itself Uh, let's see someone says proxmox does not migrate VMs unless storage is named for the same for some reason Yeah, that I have no idea about I'm gonna I use xcp and g which is extremely flexible on storage so I don't know if um The details of proxmox is I don't use it use nas storage proxmox if we have multiple nodes. Oh good You know, I didn't even read down and sam's in here already answering the questions two nas Be better one for storage one for backups if you have the resources Uh live migrate does require shared storage between nodes. Actually, can you do Live migration sam between two nodes without shared storage or is that one of the things? That is absolutely acquired. Okay. Yeah. Oh cool. I'm just gonna also just keep reading comments So I can learn about proxmox here proxmox doesn't require a shared storage for between nodes to live migrate. You can move Local lvm. It just takes some time to copy um If self-hosts x and xcp are behind security like cloud for zero trust in athalia do on fad so consider them publicly available um if you're using cloudflare and And you've set up cloudflare to do some type of authentication where you can't just access it. Yes Um, then it's not really publicly available because you have to get around whatever you implemented in front of cloudflare Cloudflare's got like options to put like tokens in front of it. Um, that would definitely be A mitigation for not having it publicly available. So Yeah publicly means accessible by anyone anywhere the wider internet. Yep My understanding of public-facing web services is or sometimes they can be accessed remotely by the worldwide web Adding authentication does not make it public-facing. Yeah. Yep. Good. Lots of people aren't agreeings here. We're all on the same page. Yay I don't know too much about uh cloudflare zero trust. I I'm Not someone who spent a lot of time with it. I did a video on it, but it's not something I use Frequently it seems to work and cloudflare's got a good reputation for security. So We'll go with it's probably not bad. I've never put it to the test But I feel like cloudflare the scale they operate they generally put things through A level of scrutiny before offering them out as a service. So I'd say more than likely. Yes Greetings from yip salani Is it possible to upgrade a gaming laptop cpu gpu depends on the laptop some Some do some don't Nope, I'm waiting for the new version of xo store and maybe then but I'm not in any hurry for it I don't have a strong use case for it Uh use true nas as a backup for proxmox. Isn't a good idea proxmox Well proxmox backup server around. Yeah, you can use the proxmox backup server as well Shadow copies and multiple machines possible bex practice using true nas um in I have a video on this in zfs the Snapshots present to smb as Shadow copies. So I don't understand completely a question, but that is an option if that's what you're asking Uh, well having multiple firewalls or vpn simultaneously improve security. Probably not it increases complexity. I don't really know about I don't really know about security One firewall could be secure Maybe if you had two different brand firewalls if there was a flaw in one they'd have to have they'd have to get to the other But it's one of those diminishing returns Setting up my first server soon. Thanks to people like you and learning cv Uh, why do you prefer xcpng over proxmox? It really comes down to scalability. Um We do things with large clients at scale. We don't see proxmox use much in a business world I get why home users you proxmox and homelab people proxmox offers a lot of cool features for the homelab In the business world in the high availability scalability world and in the need of support and sla agreements xcpng because you know used to be a lot of people were using citrix And they moved from citrix over to xcpng because it's very compatible and still can use that orchestra You just have a lot more businesses using it So we use it a lot at our company in our consulting So that's why I keep using it. Uh, I find proxmox to be A little bit more fiddly and that's because they give you so many features Which is a good thing for homelab people But it's not There's a simplicity in the way xcpng works that means you can quickly Grab a host load it and start programming it faster. There's less setup work involved in it But there's nothing wrong with proxmox. It's just a different philosophy in how they do things And uh, yeah, it's it when it comes to operating things at scale. I feel there's a lot more flexibility when it comes to xcpng Is cnwr employing neckgate harbour is the focus till muraki. We do both Uh, I sent someone a muraki quote, but I've also sent three people pf sense quotes So yes and yes, it's about having more solutions We don't have a reason to not use pf sense So pf sense still a great fit for a lot of the clients and the clients that currently have it Are going to continue to have it because it's a fit for what they do muraki comes into play when someone this is someone reached out the other day They want really good layer 7 filtering for their guest networks. Sorry pf sense is not your solution That's that's a fact. Um, so that person I quoted muraki, which they immediately Declined I feel I got no dead air after I sent them the muraki quote because they really wanted their pf sense firewall to do Layer 7 filtering I've been feeling they just reached out to somebody else They weren't in they weren't an active client They were reaching out for consulting because they couldn't figure out how to get layer 7 filtering working on their pf sense and I'm like, yeah, it's not a great tool for that It's terrible for layer 7. You're gonna have to go with something muraki They said how much is a muraki and that's the last time I heard from that person I told them the price they they may have fallen out of their seat. I'm not sure It was um, they they I sent them the license fee as well It's not the price of the hardware. It was that license fee. They're like the and they're like not just once I'm like, yeah That's that's how these work. That's what recurring means Greetings from the land down under awesome Home map question it is hardware on amazon like delrack servers is older and refurbished. Where's it still the ones that see renew Do they sell new hardware anymore? You know, I'm not gonna lie I really like some of these mini PCs coming out and I think they're gonna really offset some of the old server hardware There's good use case for the old server hardware. It's very powerful But sometimes it's so much power that it's a problem for the home lab including noise heat and just electricity usage And these little boxes that are coming out the review I'll have released very soon for This one because the video is uploading right now. Well, it was uploading a few minutes ago It's probably finished uploading and rendering now uh on youtube But these little boxes are becoming more and more popular They're low wattage good power and I've reviewed a couple of them And they're becoming um, I think a really popular solution amongst the home lab people because you don't have to deal with the used They're relatively inexpensive. They're small and they're low wattage and low noise. So yes, absolutely Uh, let's see we got thanks for being there every time I have a problem and youtube awesome Hello from germany. It's up late and I don't know what time exactly it is in germany. I know it's a little later How can I determine the expiration time of an existing churnass snapshot? The task created them has been Deleted so they're I don't know the retention policy This is a good question And I think I need to dive into that as a topic because I don't know that I've actually covered this specifically But I want to point something out the snapshot lifetime We're going to go ahead and go into one of my boxes here and we'll share the screen So the snapshot lifetime Is completely based on the task So if we go here to data protection and we look at any one of these particular tasks And you see the snapshot lifetime of two weeks we'll zoom in probably make that a little bit easier to read That is when the snapshot will get deleted is two weeks from the last one By this task that's the important part. So if I stop this task or I just Suspend it even like it's enabled right now if I suspend this task There's no more deleting of snapshots. There's no more creating of snapshots. They're one and the same the task itself cleans them up It's not the snapshot that has a life. It's the task that tells it whether or not it's there So if you delete the task those snapshots just stay there forever The older equipment on amazon is usually easy to source but can be power hungry. Yes Have you had some time with the hl 15? I sure have I posted on twitter and I forgot to post locally on it but Me and the hl 15 we've been spending some quality time together and I'm really happy with it. I've got a handful of drives in it um It's beautiful on the inside. I've got a 25 gig adapter in it. It's uh I don't judge me. Well or k do judge me. That's what this is all about What do you what do you think a little my little micron drives I put in here? But yes, I loaded it up with a few drives. It's got a few 14 terabytes in there I have to do a data shuffle product I have to shuffle data from one server to another because I have to reload one of them And so I have to have all my data This is a mental thing for me all my data has to be at least in two places Just in case now technically I have another off-site copy But I know how long it would take to have an off-site copy back So I wanted two copies on site for this project. I'm working on and maybe I'll do a video about the project itself Which is really just me reloading a system But when I reload it, I just got to move all the data somewhere So I'm going to use temporarily the hl 15 as a secondary backup of all of my data So I've got dual copies of about 30 or 40 terabytes of data that I need Held while I reload another server and then move all the data back So that's what the homelab 15. It seems like a good exercise for the device Huh, can you show how one would replicate? One Synology to another and then keep the secondary offline for security reasons. Well You could use hyper backup, but you would just have to run it manually You would just tell it not to schedule so you can tell the hyper backup and Synology to Duplicate to another Synology You're just going to have to tell it to run when you plug the other device in So if that's your plan you would go set up hyper backup and Let me see where that would be And I don't think I have a task set up right now for it. Maybe I do hold on Just see if I have one. Where does this go? I have a lot of tasks Oh, this one does I did I was playing with that. I set this one up. So This actually is going to another Synology that I have and So this backs up just it grabs my Docker stuff and backs it up daily But it's set to run on a schedule I would tell it to not run on a schedule and you would just have to do a manual run If you wanted it to be an offline backup Uh looking for how loud relative to IX systems How loud what is oh? um It's probably about the same. It's not a quiet server. It's not a loud server. It's somewhere in between So I would say that the homelab 15 server is going to be similar But it's not like the large in case which IX systems are you asking about the Rack mount one that but the rack mount one I have as well and it's probably similar in noise It's not too loud, but it's It's you know, it's not made to be the real it's not a quiet server. It's not time super quiet It's not meant to be either it's meant to move a lot of air um I have a proxmox vm with gpu with a gpu. I just feel sanskas having real windows. Um, it can be tricky and fiddly is um Me or the normal thing that vm proxmox won't use a gpu is because pure windows it should if you pass it through properly I am less familiar with passing through gpus because I just don't do it. It's a pretty rare use case Uh, well hgmi with ethernet cause security or privacy concerns, especially in the displays connected to a smart tv um, I don't Think I don't know I've never tried to run my ethernet over hgmi. So I don't have any idea Also depends on what the client needs pf sense from rocky, you know the firewall if you Uh understand what the client's needs are it's always about the client needs If the client doesn't write you but that's all you sell then the client's next option is leave you Good to have a couple options bad to have All the options. Well most of the time the client doesn't care It's not driven by the clients want for a particular Very specific device. As a matter of fact, we have some co-managed it where we don't even necessarily support the firewall They support it themselves or they have a you know Whatever firewall they have and we'll you know, we support 40 gates. We're familiar with them as well We have a cisco like not muraki, but actual cisco it kind of depends on the client For expanded storage easier or better to integrate hypervisors with dish shelf or super micro shelf Uh, it depends on how you want to set it up. It comes down to budget and settings I I don't really know which one's better. I mean, I prefer everything in one without having extra shelves because I think it's convenient But that's not necessarily what's going to be the best fit because it might be a more cost effective to buy A device that has a separate dish shelf. It's not about being better. It's usually budget budget drives more of this conversation Anything else. I'm partial to like the 45 drive xl 60, but it turns out not everybody has the budget for a 45 drives xl 60, so Just replaced eight dental PCs with some mini forum 773s work very well can handle programs at any graphics card. It's cool. Yeah, those little mini ones aren't bad I would probably not trust Depending on what they put in them I for example, this didn't ship with an mvme, but I put a western digital one in here And I I don't always think they put the best or highest quality Drives in all of them. It varies from model to model. So I would just take that into consideration for longevity Howdy from 29 000 feet awesome Uh, I want to create and share a true nest server As shadow copies for multiple users. My question is is the user on sure nest side safe to use for all machines accessing the share They don't completely understand the question you want to share I'm not that might be a better forum coast because I don't understand what you're trying to do Uh, when it gets to the new version of uh xcp and g Yes, they will have dark mode. It's in works for the new version Uh, so the current version does not have it and they will not change it for current But the new version should be out within the next year Uh, what version of true nest scale are you running? Uh, the latest Hey from new jersey Gave a call to your story the other day. Your team was very helpful Which saved me saved my button pricing out a huge few-week camera system and sold my dealership Saved me from losing about 3 000 awesome backup meaning rsync. I think you're the one asked a Synology question and Hyper use hyper backup not rsync if you're backing up Synology to Synology use their backup tool But so technically you could use rsync as well and rsync's fine. I guess in Synology Uh, I was thinking I could set up a dream machine pro disable port on a specific time frame like only enable port for an automated task was a schedule uh, maybe You could probably do that as well Looking at better pi 4 availability also pi 5 is a good option. Yeah, I seen for sure. You're not wrong about that Yeah, the raspberry pies are becoming a lot more available. That's pretty awesome Oh, we We sell a lot of Excel 60s we I have a few more videos to do on excel 60s So um the average home user probably doesn't have the budget for an excel 60 some of the clients that we do Yes, they do So there's some of those at the office right now The mini excel is really quiet. So the non-rack mount one the mini excel. Yeah, that's definitely quieter than the 45 drives Home lab Thank you for the donation Jeremiah. What do you think about tailscale's new molvad vpn option? Well, I did a video on it and I thought it was cool I think it's nice that they built it in because now I don't have to Run a separate client I can just use tailscale and swap my exit nodes to be something like molvad. I like the convenience Um, I did the video on it and I know it's beta I haven't looked lately to see if they fixed the UI the UI was kind of ugly on a phone It made it a little hard to scroll through. I think they had the scroll bars right in windows and bad on a phone But it's cool that they have it in there. I big fan of tailscale I need to do probably a follow-up video because I've been using consistently tailscale Maybe for six months or more. I wanted to use it long term to really give a more thorough review So all of my travels I did this year. I think the entire year. I've used tailscale Or at least close to it most of my travels that were through the summer. So I didn't use it much in the non-summer months, but either way I've used tailscale a lot and I'm still doubled down on it has been the flawless Just works vpn service that has been really consistent I do recommend it How do you feel about scale losing sync back up to one drive? Uh, I don't have any feelings on it because I would never try to back things up to one drive Ah, this person summed up my thoughts. Well unknown entity says people actually use one drive. Yeah I don't trust microsoft with my data. I don't barely trust google with my data I should just say I don't trust most of the cloud companies and my data very well I think back blaze is pretty good But they're an off-site backup not my only place of trust. So that's a big consideration in there If price is the same would you go sfp plus to rg45 to fiber when doing 10 gig link run of about 45 meters? um Fiber's nice So I would probably run fiber, but I don't know most of I I take that I don't know if you buy a prefab fiber. It's easy and I like fiber, but convenience might be rg45 I don't know. It's kind of a mix. We have both. So the answer to what we did at my office is yes We actually have links almost parallel to each other because we can We ran some with cat 6a and some with fiber I don't really know why it's kind of one time. We needed a link across the office So it's fiber the next time we decided to run a cat 6 because there was just enough left in the spool to use it So either one is fine. Uh, the nice thing fibers technically A little bit lower wattage usually probably a little bit lower heat Synology immutable backups would improve security I believe they have immutable but the problem is once you're admin It's not immutable and one of the cybersecurity problems you run into is people losing their admin password So you can call something immutable backups. You can tell it from the back end because technically Depending on where you're standing if you have a Synology or a true nasty, you're using snapshots Both of these have snapshots that would not be able to be accessed by the user on a share But if someone gets the admin password, they can delete the snapshot. So Yeah immutable is kind of a There's not a way to build a box that you cannot delete as the admin There's not an option on a Synology or even a true nasty There's not likely to be where you can only write data to it but never delete it that Yeah, it's unreasonable. It's not likely to happen I delete one drive from client machines. Yeah Oh, there's a lot of hacks. So I saw a video about someone using discord for free storage Um, there's actually someone who wrote a project completely one of those because they can They encoded their data into I think it was h2 65 And figured out how much data you could store in a youtube video And what they were doing is getting your data into a format So it could still be extracted despite the compression Into youtube because technically you can upload a video and as long as youtube thinks it's a video And you've come up with an encoding scheme You could actually upload your data to youtube and then decode it back out whenever you want provided youtube is available So technically that would give you a pretty massive amount of storage because you can upload a lot to youtube and so I mean there's all kinds of hacky ways you can get data somewhere and That's fun, but also it's it's not guaranteed in the moment YouTube or discord or wherever you upload it to figures out that someone's gaming their system They just break the game and your data goes with it. So It's it's fun thought process. I like it as a hack. I think it is fun There's a reason I spent too much time reading this person's write up on the youtube thing Maybe a year ago and I'm like this is so cool and this is I'm fascinated by this I don't really have a use case. I'd never do it. I don't recommend anyone do it But the person did it as a learning experience and I completely blessed that as a great reason to do it Uh, I don't use windows. So I have very few thoughts on windows other than I avoid it Oh, let's see Antivirus is obsolete ed errors where it's yet. Yeah, it's all about endpoint detection response now um Because you're asking would a sandbox be a good substitute for name. No sandbox and antivirus are different things s3 object lock except Except once again, if someone gets the admin and override the object lock, that's the problem if someone gets into your aws And you know it finds that account that has the ability to delete it or just terminate your aws account It's not exactly immutable It's I I don't like the term when people talk about immutability Because you can hack around on these systems and change things There's not much now There are some retention policies with certain companies you can do and I get that where even if you deleted it They still hold the data for x number of days even my g-suite account if someone were to Hack my g-suite account get in there as an admin and delete someone I think google gives me 14 or 30 days to restore a user that was deleted I can't remember what that number is But google does that and there's no way to stop that I just have to have I have that many days to figure out about getting the account back. So that's um It's immutable is a challenge and it's mostly about protecting your admin credentials really well and offline I do have offline backups. Where is it at? I even do this. I was just making new ones because I always do two of them Uh, if you've not seen these these are the little survivor Um, I just ordered some new ones because they were on sale for black friday They're sealed waterproof usb's And this is where my backups are kept My extra copies of critical data. It's just a really Hardened waterproof and these go I make more than one. I actually format them each time run a backup of my most precious data And These are all encrypted with lux. I thought about talking about this as a video But I like these they're tough They should survive pretty well in my fireproof safe and I they're small enough and 128 gigs and multiple copies Not all kept here And I'm not worried about if someone got a hold of them because they're all encrypted and if you decrypted it The first layer of encryption. I've also encrypted the things that I put on here So I put multiple layers of encryption that way I'm not worried about handing this to a friend and say hold this For me because this is my off-state backup and uh, then you keep some written instructions in your will of how to Decode it You do it like a whole crux and you don't put all of your information in your will or you're uh In one place you have a series of them and like I said, there's a whole process to it Maybe I'll talk about that another time as a video Yeah, this is a topic. I talked about just the other day. I think I have a post on twitter about it I didn't make it as a video. I didn't know if it made a good channel video But not everyone realizes who's responsible for your data And it turns out it's you that is um here. Let's oh good. I have them pulled up here So this is something not everybody realizes shared responsibility in the cloud division responsibility Information and data right here right in microsoft's shared responsibility matrix You are responsible for the data you put in our cloud If we microsoft lose said data, you better have a backup of all that data That is what the shared responsibility matrix is and by the way, this is not just a uh Problem of microsoft so to speak it's google too They still have the same thing. Oh, don't worry. We probably are wondering about amazon and uh, here it says customer. Well, let me Get rid of this There we go customer data. Who's responsible responsibility for security in the cloud? There we go It's the customer who's responsible for their data Some hardware are quiet enough. We're running a one ufujitsu to go do del 720 t110 And disc shelf 24 7 room and I can easily sleep here. Oh, I could sleep to the noise. I won't lie I definitely can sleep to it It's not really if it bothers you. It's if it bothers other people Um, and if you're the only people it matters to because you're the only one in the room with it, then it doesn't matter at all Noise is subjective. Yes See here. Oh, let's see These three conversations explaining whether or not a backup. Yeah Yep It's called shared responsibility matrix. That's the term that you're kind of looking for where you can find more topics on this Yeah, people don't like being responsible for their own data Uh, do you recommend tail scale or expose port forward in? Uh wire guard. I would go with tail scale Because it's simpler If if you're asking my suggestions probably going to be that go that you should go with tail scale Nothing wrong with wire guard. I don't have any problems with it. Um, it works quite well I have no issues at all and tail scale uses wire guard underneath tail scale just has some other things on it Is it possible to use proxmox sdn with pf sense To have a subnet go across the cluster nodes. I don't know. I've not used the sdn inside of Prox proxmox because I don't use proxmox Something something but one drive for business. Let's me restore 90 days as a backup. Yeah Let's see here. I just installed a bunch to server I can't get auto boot nfs and etsy fs tab if i'm out manly it works not automatically after reboot My guess is it's a ordering problem of Your network isn't ready before you try to do the nfs mount I think there's a delay you can put in for that or there's an option to say check for network readiness Yeah, this is what brought that up that particular tweet. I had was exactly this if you Do you know Did you know you're the ones responsible for your data and this is because google workspace lost some data So it's a video. I posted on twitter about that as a topic This one right here So yeah, you can find if you just follow this is like just a couple posts just a couple tweets ago Yeah, tail scale is ridiculously easy I don't have star links. So I can't really speak to any problems over star link with it Is it possible to do dual mfa with wire guard tail scale trying to figure out If I do that or open vpn Um, tail scale works completely differently and tail scale does not do authentication tail scale does Uh, let me see if I'm signed in I'm already signed in They do o-auth authentication So the the authentication and tail scale is not tail scales authentication They purposely said we're not in the authentication business. They use o-auth so they'll o-auth against your account I think they'll do like office 365 and g-suite They do some other ones too. My favorite thing to do in o-auth 365 is the user trash can I can start data and let them dump it into the admin trash before restoring wouldn't yeah Tail scale is definitely the simplest vpn ever. I really like it System d uh detect is not reliable. I add on boot timer To do mount all yes That would be a way as well. Yeah, that's The problem is if your network and this is why you set a timer if the network's not ready when you try to mount an NFS or any mount that requires network In it's not going to mount because the network's not ready. So and machines boot really fast. This is now we come an issue Would you recommend recertified drives from server part deals for production? um actually I just ordered I was going to talk about this Where is it? Where did I get these from? Yes, it's from server part deals I did order some from server. I thought this the company I ordered from I just ordered all my drives from there. I wanted to try them out. I've heard good things about them So I did order. I haven't had a problem. They all are fine But I haven't used them more than a week now. So they've only been in Uh the system for a while. So I don't know about a production system But definitely for home lab. I'm going to be giving them a shout out because they're they saved me like half the price Because I only need them for a data shuffle. Then I don't know what to do with them. All's I have a lot of hard drives I mean, I know what to do with them. I have places I can put them I've been using star link for six months hasn't disconnected since it's set up with pf sensors or outer awesome The quantum scalar tape writers have some really nice features for data production Even if someone will get room but access to the management a whole backup system including a library Where would you need physical access to do something harmful? Not sure the question but yes, uh set it up to the point where they need physical access. Uh, that's a much higher bar to Much higher bar to covers the physical access part. That's why I do these and Take them different places to put them in not anything is now I have two offices and a house to keep them in So I've got three places. I can have three of these at different locations Just so you know, it's uh, it's like the it's it's like the harry potter holcrux How do we destroy all the data? Well, we got to get to three different locations And maybe there's a fourth one. Maybe a fifth one. We don't know Maybe we use a safety deposit box Where would that be at? If you have experience with telephone exchange What are you recommending with telephone exchange? I don't have experience with telephone exchange It's a bit hard for someone across The globe to hack your front door True unless your front door has some type of silly iot thing that they can hack but That's a different topic Uh, when if ever do you recommend running IPS ideas on your wan interface? Is it when you have open ports to the internet? No, it'll still scan the traffic coming through The only exception is probably going to be ha proxy If you're running ha proxy in pf sense, I believe because it's all handling it right actually proxy That's the only way to filter the proxy through your ids So you're going to need it there. That's it. There's not another reason I have to do it Uh dumb question out of convenience. What version of libvert on xcp ng? I don't know. I never looked Uh, what 10 gig 12 port 24 person should recommend with someone building a home lab I'm being on the unify stuff The unify stuff works really well. It's easy to set up. There's lots of documentation for it I think the prices are reasonable Next one down But you're going to pay with your time in learning how to set them up. It's going to be the meeker tick Now the problem is I will watch the comments when I mentioned meeker tick or unify Tell me I've watched people struggle with unify and I watch people tell me It's too easy. It's dumb because it's so easy. I like the command line So I don't know which one would be easy for you And the same thing goes for meeker tick. There's people who would say I spent hours on it and couldn't figure it out And there's other people go. Oh, it's simple, you know, the command line on it was easy to configure and add some vlands to it Yeah The meeker tick ones are definitely good for the budget But definitely if you're not an experienced network person, they may be a uphill battle to learn that That's really what it comes down to but the unify stuff really falls on the beginner easy side Which makes me pretty happy Recommending them because they work well and they're not hard to configure vlands on Tom for enterprise where you where you can also get true nas support Are you building your own servers or buying true nas devices? Not clear how you get true nas enterprise decision for your servers We buy from ix systems. Well more specifically. We are a reseller of ix systems So the only time that there is going to be an sla agreement With one of those systems is going to be when it's an ix systems box that we sold to the client from ix systems With true nas on there. That's gonna have it Um, it's we're not building them. This this comes up all the time someone says Hey, I want an sla agreement on this pile of hardware i built and i'm like i'm not giving you An sla on random hardware you piled together There's a lot of reasons not to do that and that's definitely um It's it's a recipe for disaster. So we recommend if you want a Fully managed one. We usually recommend ix systems that being said we sell a lot of 45 drives that we support but it's part of a managed agreement and contract and it's um It's not like there's a four hour sla 24 7 we don't offer that when we sell the 45 drives ones We do a lot of support in the movie business They don't generally need that four hour sla So that's where a lot of these end up is in data analytics and movie companies Um, I have not but I did read some other people had it's been on my to-do list to test it but uh water They're in a fireproof safe. So water is just a less the the fireproof safes have a the one that I have I do Have seals on them. So water intrusion is pretty unlikely. Um, but yeah, if I'm bored, maybe I'll test one How do you determine ROI from an automation scripting manual process worth the time investment? I don't know I'm the worst person to ask because I want to automate anything. I think I'll do twice Sometimes I'll spend hours on something that I'm probably never going to do twice So, uh, I will struggle with the rest of you generally speaking though when it comes to the business side Not the fun side of tom I am doing it. Um based on how many more times will I need to do this process? And it's just a measurement You just kind of think about your time and is it worth it to write a script that does this or Do I just do it manually because it's not that hard I still have a handful of things that I thought I would only do once or twice Maybe I've done them five or six times I keep talking about making a fully automated deploy script for my computer I don't reload my computer very often So how much time and effort should I put into that when it's not like I reload my computer too often So there's no no easy answer. Just figure out your time saving Hmm Basil's and musk have a one in our outer space. Yeah They probably do back back a space backup moon backup mars backup Uh, do you ever recommend options like next dns or control id to set up when you run your own dns? Nope, I never really run my own dns. I just recommend quad 9 I run snort on wan dmz bridge to stop the crap from getting my dmx servers I am new to linux commands. Can you show the process of how to delay nfs in a bunch to I wouldn't be able to do that right now on the live stream I would recommend and I believe jay from learn linux tv Probably has a video on it. He's got a pretty extensive linux library of videos. So I would highly recommend that Where do you manage site-to-site open vpn rules open vpn tab? Yes That sounds correct I was given an edge router and it was confusing but a unify And it was problem solved and solved issue it solved a lot of issue 3b lands. Yeah Uh, what is a reasonable sla for 45 drives? I believe they offer 24 hours for support Like a 24 hour turnaround time for support. I forget they do offer some warranty stuff on there But it I don't think it's 24 by well, no, actually they do have some support I just I have to look at what their support agreements are because they have support agreement for some of the software like seff um I forget I just don't remember exactly where we're a 45 drives reseller too, but I don't I know about the technical side I don't know about like some of the support agreement side because I'm not the one selling those agreements As soon as he can I get a partnership on IX systems? Sure Call them up It's not hard to do you just sign up for their they have like a partner and deal registration program So yes, you can become one Yes, sct x kcd has a chart for that documentation Yes Uh, are you still running your own media wiki? Suggest an alternative. I shut down the media wiki I'm not using that anymore When we merged with cnwr for all of our it documentation, we're using uh, hoodu hudu I Impalled the site so people can know what it is Whoops This is the hoodu build a strong foundation for it management. It's a paid commercial product So we're not it's not something that um is open source or free I wish it was but here we are I set up eight computers last week spent three for us coming up with a script Me 23 minutes per machine. Uh, guess what took longer. Yeah Jeff Geerling script for restoring my mac awesome Ansible is a good way to do this Thank you very much for the super sticker SMT for um, mfp scanning for email Uh duo circle, I think is the name of the company. There's one of them. Usually you want to tie it to their Office 365 system, uh, you can do that But you can also do the less secure apps feature There's ways you can create special passwords in g suite as well If you're looking for third party though, um, you just need to find an sntb relay service and do there's a company called duo circle I used to use for a lot of that Yeah, posting in the launch systems forums, uh, that's a good place to ask questions about some of those things Because I'll I'll do more concise answer answers in there because I'll give links and type out code examples and things like that Everyone talks about tail scale. I use your tier just fine, which you recommend for the two Um, the reason I like tail scales because it's integrated right into pf sense. That's that's it I thought I actually found zero tier Before tail scale and I did some videos on it and I still think zero tiers a good thing I don't think there's any problems. I know of the zero tier Uh, after marriage, you still use g suite or office 365 Both we I for laurence systems.com and still using g suite c and w r uses office 365 But our clients are mixed. We have clients using office 365. We have clients using g suite This is something to think about with the cloud flare their tunnels do not allow streaming media And uh, that is something you'll run into is people do it and then they run They hit the bandwidth limit or the terms of service limits and yep, you you will have a problem then Now, let's see here. There's something else that we should talk about anyone here Using open sense that can answer questions So let's see here. I don't know the answer to this Is there any open sense people that can answer? If this was fixed in open sense, I'm asking not to poke fun of it because I don't know But net gate releases pf sense plus version 23.09.1 and pf sense ce 27.2 These are issues in bsd, which means both pf sense and open sense are affected pf sense has the updates out Uh, so they have patches available for these security advisories They are right on top of things as they always are my question is Does open sense have these security patches released? I'm asking for someone who there's got to be So many people suggest open sense. Someone must have open or opn sense Someone must have it and let me know if they patch this as well It's kind of a curiosity to have when people want to debate about security What is the one thing you never put in your home lab? I don't know. I don't really think about that Uh, do you have any customers? Uh, make you subject to cmc regulations? Uh We have customers that are subjected to it. I guess by proxy. We are to an extent as well. So yes You use open sense. So it has open sense patched these bsd issues Uh, I believe they were open sensors running a version a no the opposite Open sense is on bsd 13 pf sense is on bsd 14 And these problems affect bsd 13 as well open sense is behind pf sense because they rely a lot on things coming downstream Matter of fact, open sense is still running the old version of open ssl And not the new version like pf sense. So they're actually behind on that security issue Now they're behind on more security issues. This is one of the things that is pointing out people Call me a pf sense shill or whatever and I don't care Um, I'm really not bothered by that. I have no financial relationship with them I just care about security of my clients and I can't trust the security to a small team that doesn't seem to be able to keep up with updates and I feel that's how the open sense team is and Someone else saying open sense will not likely patch anytime soon. Um, they only patch php 8.2 in july of this year. Wow. That's a this is a problem and This is why I don't get it people keep telling me open sense open sense. I'm like, okay That's fine. But how are you handling security because I have to keep clients secure. I couldn't sell them open sense I would be Notting compliance I'd be selling them, you know dated software that Has flaws that are unpatched. So That's why I'm asking And because these if you look up these security advisories, they don't just affect bsd 14 they affect bsd 13 and open sense runs on bsd 13 How do I know there's a small team? Look through the commits and you see how few people are committing code to the Open sense compared to how many people are committing code to pf sense not to mention And I've brought this up many times P uh netgate is funding a substantial amount of development in the bsd world A netgate is among the top six contributors to bsd open sense doesn't contribute code back That's they wait for pf sense and the netgate team to fund bsd And then they take downstream What comes in terms of firewall related updates to the bsd system and they integrate it into open sense They they're waiting downstream for things to come to them. They're not the ones writing the code This is kind of this is the problem and why so many open source projects die is People want their thing for free. I get that they get mad that people charge money for all the Time it takes to build these things and now we have a graveyard of open source projects. Someone asked me what happened to the People that make squid i'm like oh squid was super popular It's it's the caching server that we use for years that nobody funded everyone used it baked it into products And now it's being deprecated because the team is so small There's a ton of security problems and they don't have time to fix it That's the admission of the own team their answer when they were presented with a whole list of bugs was Feel free to submit requests and write the code. That's kind of their answer We don't have enough people to fix all the problems with it So Companies like netgate have already decided to get rid of squid because it's insecure. It is now a security risk to have it Yeah, so it's a challenge with all of these Yeah, open sense is still running open ssl 111 that got cancelled in september That's a problem. They're still running an old version. So About to build a new plex server thinking unraid any objections people seem to really like unraid But I don't uh use it. So I don't have an opinion on it It seems to make people happy, but I've not used it enough to give you an opinion I don't know anything bad about it. I can say that Open sense has the open vpn 268 fixes release 1120. Oh good So that's this is what I'm looking for because I don't have an open sense system to see if they're what the patch levels are Any chance on a refresh site-to-site video open vpn using ssl s t is a pretty sure pretty sure key No, because I don't recommend using open vpn for site-to-site I if if I were to set up an site-to-site it's going to either be ip sec or wire guard not open vpn I don't really have a reason to use open vpn for site-to-site when wire guard exists greetings from seattle Honestly, uh for homeland firewall ip fire is what I'm gravitating towards great product frequent updates Usually on top of security fixes. Yeah, but that's also I think I don't know how big their team is But I feel it's really small and they they're not completely on top They like you said kind of on top. They also have they ever integrated a wire guard. Um, I don't know that they have a ton of features in ip cap. So Yeah, I I haven't looked at that in a while ip cap. Um Is that what it's still called because it was a or ip cap was the original name What is the I've seen it up there either way ip farm. Sorry. I'm calling it ip cap ip fires the name ip cap is what it's forked from I used to run ip cap for you forever ago I really liked it as a firewall But it's one of those projects and like many other the open source firewalls You watch them dwindle down and not get new features because with you know Everyone wants to free firewall, but someone's got to pay for the development of it and it's kind of a challenge Uh, have I ever used one? Yes, I have Uh, well, no, I own one. I've never used it I own a couple of them. Uh, they're at my office. My employees use them. I don't know anything about them Like I know when I want something Printed I can ask one of my staff to print it and they they print things like A raspberry pi case So this is a 3d printed raspberry pi case come on focus. So this is kind of novel But I don't know how to actually make this happen I know if I find something and I send one of my staff a link They will they will print it. That's how that's how things get 3d printed not because tom knows how they get 3d printed Uh, the reason then to use ovpn might be bgp wg bgp has some caveats with routing tables Yeah, I don't I imagine more people will use ip sec, but I don't know Greetings from the bayou's in louisiana. I'm probably the only guy in 100 miles. There is a chance of that um Yeah, the You can't really say it as a whole that open source is more secure. You have to compare project by project But yeah, there's a lot of, um Generalizations about it, but generally speaking You have good security in open source Not everything that's open source, but yes Latest open sense ssl 1 1 t february 2023. Yeah, that's deprecated. So They are running on a dated version of open ssl I use open vbn to access my knowledge remotely and it works great But also look into the possibility of switching to tail scale. Yeah, I I'm happy with tail scale tail scale works on Synologies as well. So You can't really beat the total cost to ownership of pf sense everything and getting parent to senators hats off to the dev team Yeah, no, they um They do a great job on there But back, you know, I put true nas in here and moving data Uh What's my what's my favorite tech to tinker with? Um, not work related motorcycles I used to build hot rods but motorcycles as well. I like cars tractors engines But I don't tinker with them as much as I used to it's not near as frequent Actually, I need to Log into some of these machines Start moving data. That's actually a project. I want to get done is moving data I figured people might ask how you move data I can show this live Uh, not this one No, this one. There we go. Oh look updates That's new Before updating, please read lunis notes. Sure Cool. So there's an update for that Sure an update for the other ones Nope, no updates for this Hmm interesting Nope turns out I don't use robocopy Uh, all these are true dance systems. So we're going to do everything with replication Replication is the way to do it replication task so I have Some more data that I need to back up I probably should back up the zen data Or do I want to back up this data? Hmm, which one's next I This is where all those challenges come in Which one do I want to start backing up? Which one do I need more copies of? 404 stream not found. Yeah That is a challenge sometimes But I might do some updated videos just in general on how replication works because there's There's been some changes since the last video I did was probably three or four years ago And this is something we use a lot in sure dance And having all your replication work properly is quite important I think we'll back up all the zen data right now But in order to do that For I will stop some services from running here Just in case just in case there's a problem Let's go ahead and build another task Source is going to be this system Rose can jump right to advanced Now when you build new replication You if you have a bunch of jobs already you want to not duplicate those jobs not duplicate all those snapshot tasks so that's uh This is why I don't think I covered a lot the advanced use cases for replication So this is where I'll probably have to dive into this as a topic Uh with open source, especially people who either don't know or don't bother checking the source code Especially in a version uh someone should I pull a fast one swelling intrusion it I mean that happens with the closed source companies It's referred to now as a supply chain attack. I'm working on copying 20 terabytes over my chewness To a server that has one gig connection Yeah, that's gonna take a while Uh, given the speed and capability of most modern firewalls Would you use them as l2 l3 devices for switching and routing? Are we still recommend separate switches routers for smb networks? Uh, I don't Understand the question exactly What I'm not sure what you're asking Generally speaking, I mean I'm asking do we Would you use them as a layer two layer three devices for switching and routing or do you still recommend separate switches routers for smb? uh We generally have a firewall and then a bunch of switches with v-lands on it. So I may not understand your question How far away from your location do you support your clients? Just curious what the business is like. Have you been down to ohio much? um We have clients in We were doing some work in france today. I think we had I think one of the projects was in france today So our clients are global So not we're not restricted to just the u.s. Territories We actually work On a different basis outside the u.s We only do Contract managed work like our contract managed security. That's only gonna be done inside the united states But we will do consulting really anywhere. So Have I been down to ohio much? Yeah, I go down there Yeah, every couple weeks. I don't get there a lot. I don't go. I don't leave my house much So I can also say I don't go to I live in the city of south gate and my business is in the city of south gate That's where our building is and I I don't even get there very often and some days I don't even leave the house actually sometimes it's several days that I don't leave the house Oh Routing storage, please don't route storage. I don't care how fast it is. Don't route storage watch my video on um the topic of Storage design quit routing storage is is the answer to that like just don't do it Please stop doing that That is That is my answer for if you should route storage if you're thinking about it. No Uh, so this would be zen to hl 15 got to have your jobs labeled 45 drives hl 15 We want to push it We want the transport method to be ssh plus netcat the source is Zen recursively Well, actually do I need it recursive? I'm trying to think of what I need sent over I probably only need the I'll send it all One in doubt send all the data So recursive replicate all child data set snapshots Why not? We don't want to exclude any don't exclude any of the children send them all Periodic snapshot task. This is where it's important. It's figuring out which one of these tasks you want to attach it to So you don't build a new task. So I have one called trinity zen So now we will Use that as a task because there's already a task that sends this elsewhere that's sending it to another server This is going to be one more copy because this is the server. I have to reload Then we choose the destination It's going to be the rusty c And it would be Trinity send Back up. So I give it a good name Scroll down here And we want to submit Oh, look that seems to Now it's pending. So This is zen to apoc And this is zen hl 15, but they're both linked to the same task of trinity zen So now I have one task. Oh did it create more? No, these are all old tasks That's these are all not enabled. I should delete all these That's from once other things were happening. This system is going to get reloaded. It's got issues But now this task, let's see we should be able to kick this off now And hit run now and let's see if it explodes Hl 15 has started Yay, here comes some data Now the other side of watching the data We're going to pull up a screen here in a second go to apps And we'll pull this up All right, now I'll catch up on questions now that I kick that off I'll return this to force play Apply We will watch all the data go by Give people something to watch while I talk Oh, did you do? It is painful when you rush storage. I wish I didn't know this form of experience There's someone who's actually done it. Yes Good evening. Sorry for the silly question. But what's the difference between Cisco 1921 SEC k9. I don't know Cisco model numbers. So that's a google search Less than a year using pf sensor pre-show to help awesome I will point out by the way, you're watching the real-time data transfer of This um, what do we hit here? There we go. We got some peaks in here 7.5 gigs This is the homelab 15 server by the way and it can go faster But the drives in there are not that fast. This is just going to some spinning drives and only four of them So I just want to point out that that's uh, I'm kind of impressed. It's going as fast as it is Less than a year pf sensor preach, you know, you helped a little guy awesome Oh, wow south gate work for a small startup in culver city into the bus bunch of hollywood guys Spent a lot of time out there though. Oh, this is south gate michigan I know there is a south gate california as well I have 40 terabyte data backup. I want to buy a sonology and add four 22 boot drives Can I add four more drives at a later date and keep them all in the same striped pool? Uh, yeah, if you use the sonology, I think it's the Uh, it's gonna I don't want to say it wrong. Yes, there's a version of sonology that's expandable for the raid It's in their documentation double check it to make sure I don't tell you the wrong thing because I'm having I used to say brain fart, but now I say cash miss. I know that information's in my head It's I gotta I get a cash miss right now as I'm not pulling it up Uh, anyone else see our star archer day linux is going to implement bsod functionality for when it crashes nice Uh, yes lots of people getting laid off from there Uh, if something happened to citrix would there be a problem for xcb and g? Uh, not at all not at all citrix could go away And you gotta remember right now xcp and g the team at vates is the one contributing back not citrix now Uh, it would be a blip if citrix were to go under that's not it wouldn't affect xcp and g Citrix has their own spin of it, but there's not citrix doesn't contribute like they used to it's a It xcp and g citrix killed it themselves and rather than that product dying the zen server The team at vates has really picked it up. By the way the zen server is the linux foundation project now It's not just it's it's not just a project It's part of the linux foundation has been for a little while. So something to consider it is pretty pretty big The scale stable for production only is core when we use nas for storing data I think as a nas it's great. I think the applications are not great. So It if you're not using applications. Yes, I think scales fine when you're using apps. Well, not so much Do we do we break the seven? Uh, it's slowed down a lot. It's gonna depend on what data you're moving So we're not seeing those sevens. Oh there we go six Some of these really spike i'm impressed and we can go over here to the Data sets see how much data is copied over we got two terabytes moved over already So data is a fly in That data is prettier to look at Is it hard to tell how big the business it's hard It's hard to tell how big the business is though through the lens of youtube try to find a reason to visit your I try to find a reason to visit your florida clients during the winter. Yeah, um, we have about 30 employees right now at cnwr and we have Over a hundred companies that we do it for um that rough those are rough numbers. I mean, I don't If that helps any but there's about 30 of us just about I think there's 28 27 employees plus external contractors Is there any upside to running true nas core instead of scale anymore? uh core is just rock solid so not really a problem with it. I don't think there's any issue with it. Um I don't know what the upside is other than that stability and I just have no worries about core They're not trying to add new features. That's probably a big advantage because now there's less updates to it There's more updates because some of the major updates in scale have had extra bugs in them And those extra bugs cause more updates and more downtime because they're like, oh this broker this application They broke syslog and the first iteration that they came out with the 23 version and about a week later They had another update so scale seems to be because it's on the fast track a lot more updates versus core fewer updates Uh, but there's not a need for them either. They're patching security They're just not trying to stuff features into it, which then of course leads the people going Oh my gosh, they're not trying to stuff features. That must mean it's a dead product. No, it's not dead It's just doing what it's supposed to do and only what it's supposed to do and what it was designed to do Citrus could have gone away five years ago. Yeah Yeah chat apt firewalls. What could go wrong? Nice an idea, but yes When is the broadcom acquisition of vates going to be announced? No time soon That isn't happening. Oh see Where did the data dashboard go? Oh put it back over here Uh, nope. I'm I'm only showing churnas today. We're not showing anything from the uh website Although I did update the caching for the website, um, I still got to put a cdn in front of it I'm just gonna my website is pretty static. So a cdn is the solution. Um I just haven't got to it. I will soon, but soon is not today I should do it soon though Definitely am I to-do list Cool. I was just double checking. I'm running the latest WordPress as well I'm sure someone will stress test the site and break it again, but whatever. I'm not not that worried about it This isn't bad. The homelab 15 server is pretty nice Go back to the dashboard. It's got a uh Xeon 3204 at 1.9 gigahertz in it And you can see doing all this transfer. We're using a decent amount. We're using about what 36 29 of the cpu how much data did we move so far? uh Oh, it's It takes a little while for this to refresh It even though it's probably sent more because it only said 2.29 terabytes before It'll actually jump and start saying a lot more Configuring that cvn is a live stream material and a 20 minute piece of content. Nah Could it run a vector? I have no idea what it takes to run that game server. So no idea Uh any free nas software that can take advantage of dual nodes set up. No not right now not yet Cobia network throughput is buggy on home dashy on home dash graph Graph is correct. The actual figure was really overestimated. Yeah, their reporting isn't as nice. So if we went here and looked at I think they switched actually on the back end to using Net data. So let's look at the network And yeah, there's some spikes in here But it's not as pretty. I mean This looks way better This is what you want to see Then it's a way better way to look at all this We can look at the network. We can look at the disk drives We can look at all this. I mean, this is just cool Look at our networking stack stack and see the data I like how you move it along and we can say, all right, what are we doing here? 3.3 4 5 6 look at that we had we had it all the way up to uh 6 gigabits here These drives just aren't fast enough to get it beyond that There's I don't know I I'm not moving into hugo. That's for sure Uh, I rely on some functionality of wordpress But one of my friends is telling me about a static site generator that integrates into wordpress So you still use wordpress as your cms for changes But then it publishes to a static file. So you solve the content delivery problem But my bandwidth usage is just so low. I could use a free tier on cloud flare I'm pretty sure they still have the free tier even if I paid for it. It's not going to be much. So Yeah That's not it's so inexpensive. I'll probably just go that route I don't make that many changes with the exception of I have the website automatically pulling the YouTube videos. That's the only change it makes and I we only have to have an update once a day I generally don't upload every day, but I don't know which day I'm uploading So if it updated once a day, it would always catch the latest youtube videos on the front page Net data is great on a nas very quickly identify bottlenecks at a quick glance. Oh, I love net data for that Yeah, it's just that's why I always load net data right away on any of my nas servers If I run into a problem, I don't want to install net data while I'm having a problem I want to look at net data to figure out what the problem is Hi, I'm so happy here during live stream any advice for buying my first 12 u rack um Find one on sale Um, also if If you have the height to get a full height one I have regrets about buying a shorter one Because you always end up needing a bigger one by as big as you can the first time Uh, because you always end up needing more space Do you know why we do bandwidth and bits and storage capacity limit and bytes nope Nope, I I don't know why there's more than one way to measure things and we don't have people who agree but there's also a comic about this where Pretty much I I love it like there's there's 10 standards So i'm gonna make a standard to solve all 10 standards into one standard And sometime many committee meetings later. We have 11 standards. This is how it goes I've never loaded net data on synology. I you know, I should that's a fun test I should probably do it. I could probably just do a docker implementation on synology. That might be pretty cool Marketing make them numbers bigger Yeah, another xkcd. Yes All those things you're not wrong Standards are hard getting people to agree on things to make things work Especially in the internet community. Do you know how many rfcs there are? There's a lot of them there's a lot of them and Is there a level of redundancy sometimes? Many times there's no doubt. I don't know why it's just that's how humans work They they really want to do the right thing. It's not that they don't want to do the right thing It's that's not the that's not the challenge. They have they're all so well intended when they start the committee meetings Oh sccd finally has a youtube channel. That's great Share this tab. So still running. We've replicated six percent. So the data Lots more data to go And that's just the zen stuff i'm replicating. I still have a bunch of other stuff I need to replicate but the other one I need to purge. I have a bunch of stuff I don't need we've got a ton of redundancy in there That's got to go away and until that redundancy goes away I um, I don't want to replicate it because the problem is the redundancy We have data retention policies and things like that and some of this is We backed up some big things for clients It's technically past our data retention policy for holding on to that But we still haven't purged it because it's one of those worries you have when you back up like five terabytes for a client Like will they need this data? It's not our responsibility more. We did the thing we were supposed to do for the project Project's over, but I always hold on to it just a little bit longer and then I purge it all Yeah, even better when replicating and drive fails in a 99 Then and then at 99 another drive starts to fail. Yeah, that's why I make Do it more than two copies of all my data. That's that's my solution to this problem is multiple copies Um, I might wind this down because I feel my voice is running out and I want to publish that other video And I think people generally want me publishing videos because I gotta I mean I have to sit down and edit the thumbnail and put all the metadata in Yeah, and I like it's hard for me to I've thought about how to do a work live stream Uh, but that becomes kind of challenging because I if I'm working I become non interactive So I'm focused I focus on one thing at a time because that's the best way to get things done That's how I get things done You people like to believe and I say like to believe that they can do six things at once But you don't round round robin very well through things trying to get them done It's better to focus on a task. So if I'm creating the thumbnails writing the descriptions I can't talk as well and interact with all of you So I might have to uh wind this down to be able to do that what's for dinner. I already ate What did I eat though? I already forgot what I ate. I think I eat french fries Bedtime. Oh, yeah, sam's over in the uk. So that's uh Uh 130 wow Focus on me senpai Yeah, uh, that all came from what's that person's name. He had that video before uh, totally bowser Uh, I forget the person's name, but he had that He does those he did those prank videos and for some reason he does them in michigan and they crack me up They are so funny the You know someone you either will think it's the dumbest thing you've seen or maybe it's not Uh, see what do we got here? So he's done a few of the he's not from michigan, but for reasons. I don't understand. He likes michigan You'll recognize him. I'll throw a link to the video here as soon as it loads come on page isn't loading There it is Yeah, the thing from the tree with the interview this guy Uh, he's funny. I just said I dropped a link to his channel in the chat here definitely, uh Worth the watch. He cracks me up. He's got just all these different. Uh, yeah this guy he He's got some fun stories, uh that he inserts himself to make it look like he's part of a newscast And it's just it makes me laugh so much when I see it He's done like three of them and it's in michigan and because it's in michigan where I'm at This is royal oaks only about 40 minutes from here And it it makes it that much funnier to me when he does it. So I've shared this so many times Yeah, he's got a movie out. I total totally onyx. Um, I forgot the name of this movie But yeah, he's great. I find him funny. Some people may not it all depends on where your humor's at You know, that's that's what any of this comes down to that's always a fun discussion It's trying to figure out why someone Between music and humor some people find things funny some people Don't find them funny at all and I don't always understand why especially I like absurdities So but not everybody does my wife rolls her eyes at me very frequently and yes That's it onyx the fortuitous and the talisman of souls. I think you nailed it right there. Yeah, that's uh It's a mouthful. I like absurdity. So The onyx stuff falls right into absurdity for sure My wife just rolls her eyes at me. She's she's not as into me my son We like absurdity that we are we are usually giggling at something dumb Way more than we probably should be and other people around us are like, why is that even funny to you too? But hey, you know to eat your own I don't I don't yuck on people's yum That's that's my answer and I ask people not do the same whatever. It's funny to you Make, you know run with it as long as you're not harming other people. That's like the the bar Speaking movies excited for the Wonka movie this month. Uh We'll be about his childhood weird Hmm Don't No, uh Up at 6 a.m. Can't get away with seeing clients watching tv tom on live stream. Yeah Check out that noises sounds like a helicopter outside Anyways Uh Such as life. All right. I'm gonna stop this here so I can get that other video published Thank you for all who join. Thank you. Oh, I forgot to answer my questions for the live stream someone did send me a live stream uh question And all they asked was how often they should run a synology scrub and I leave mine at the default Uh of what I think it's once a month is the default. So I think that's all I have for the things I I forgot to throw this up here The Where did it go? That's the my other problem is I forget where the button is Where did that's where that's missing? Oh It's here Vlog there's the alert systems.com. I usually leave that up so people can email me questions and I'll answer them on the show But hey, I'll answer them on next week's show. That's always a possibility But thanks everyone for joining and I'll catch you all next time. Thanks