 Good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Burns, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the commission's weekly online event. We are a webinar, some people call us, a webcast, an online show. Call us what you will. We are here live every Wednesday morning at 10am central time. If you are unable to join us on Wednesdays, that's fine. We do record all of our shows every week, and you can see them on our website. Watch all of our previous recordings, see all the previous presentations. I'll show you where that is at the end of today's show. We do a mixture of things here on Encompass Live. Interviews, book reviews, mini training sessions, demos of products and services. Basically, anything library related, we are happy to have on the show. We have a Nebraska Library Commission staff that sometimes do commission-centric type sessions, but we also bring guest speakers. This morning, that's what we have. On the line with us is Dave McStorff. Hi, Dave. Hello. Hello. Dave is director at our South Sioux City, Nebraska Public Library, way up in northeast Nebraska, north of us, by a few hours. They do a lot of great programming there at South Sioux City. Dave has been on the show a few times before talking about the various things that they've got going on there. And this is a new one that I had not heard about before, and Dave had mentioned it. So we're going to have them talk about their program they've got going on with them. Well, as the title says, feeding the hungry, getting some information about that out to people in your community. So I'll just pass it on to you, Dave, to go ahead and take it away. Okay. Well, thank you. I'm sure Krista was kind of sweaty in there. This is one of those mornings. I didn't even realize it was 10 o'clock till she called on the phone. And we've got three new staff that started today. Also, just randomly, I read an email that normally I would never read. And it's like they were having a meeting tonight at the library. And I'm like, we don't know anything about it. And it was a big group meeting. And all the meeting spaces were already taken. So we were scrambling trying to figure out what to do with those people. So it's a typical day at the library right now. You would thank God there's no camera showing you my desk. It's a typical day at the library, I would say. Stressful mornings already. But what I'm going to talk about is a program that we get started called Feeding the Hungry at the Library. And it's kind of a concept that grew out of that thinking that we're not just books anymore. And so this is something we've done quite a bit of unique programs at our library for the fact that due to our population, we have a lot of low income individuals in our community. So we look at ourselves as one first being a community center, because there's not really a art museum, science museum. There's no movie theaters. There's none of that kind of stuff in our community. They have to go to City, which is not far away. But once again, if you don't have transportation, it still makes it difficult. So we do a lot of those types of things. And this kind of program grew out of that concept of a community center working with social service agencies and a variety of other places. There we go. Program, I'll give you a little background. In our little library, we do about 1,200 programs now a year at the library. Last year, we were up to about 1,400. And then we had a children's position or staff member that left. So that dropped out all our evening time kids programs. And every night we do a kids program here. So that dropped your numbers pretty quick. We do a lot of technology programs. And we're in the process of redoing those two right now. We're trying to get to the point where more of our tech programs are more the new things that are popping up out there. So we've been looking at a lot of the unique things. And we want to look at the potential for the makerspace type area. I don't know where we would put it here. That's something that we're kind of looking at now for the future, too. We do that many programs with just four full-time staff and six part-time staff. And for our staff, every person does some sort of program here. And we allow them work time to actually research out their programs and information like that. Some of the kind of unique things that we do. We have a library eats. We have a tangled yarns. We have a craft group. And the staff actually gets time during the day. Research those types of things out. Also for our tech ones, we're trying to get it so all our staff will actually teach technology classes. So once the three new people get into the routine, one hour, at least a week, each staff person will have a designated time where they'll take a laptop back somewhere and just try to learn a specific program that we aren't doing right now. We use volunteers also for a lot of our programs. We have service organizations that come in to help. We have a variety of other different things or groups that come in and do like one type thing, that type of stuff. And then we use a lot of agencies in the town. If we actually kept track of the agencies that we kind of set up the programs for and we provide the space, and if we actually counted all those like we have the public health department that comes here, uses one of our meeting rooms, we schedule the appointments for the forum, and they serve us four to five people every, well, twice a week. So that's about 10 people right there. And that's 52 weeks a year that we have just that one group come in and use it. And then we have other groups that come in that put on programs, use our space, use our materials, and things like that, but we don't even count those in any of our numbers, because it's really none of our staff at all participating or doing the program. The speed in the program, Hungary, kind of came out of our strategic plan. For those out there that haven't had the opportunity to write a strategic plan, it's an interesting concept because when we first started it, the board and I, we kind of came up with a whole bunch of ideas. We thought, oh, these are fantastic. Turn them in for the first evaluation. It kind of got back, said, these are all very nice for the library. What can you do for the community? And we were like, well, we thought this was working with the community, but what we had to do is look more outside of our actual doors. So that was a big thing that we were kind of looking at. So we were trying to figure out how to find information on what the community actually needed. So we did a couple of town hall meetings, and we had very simple questions. We did it in English, and then we had town hall meetings in Spanish, and we had five basic questions. Now, what do you like about the community? What things you do not like about the community? And those simple basic questions, and out of that we got some other ideas that came out. And it didn't matter if they were talking about tot holes, because we turned that information over then to the streets department. We did our in-house library surveys, and those were a little more in-depth. I think our surveys that we did in-house were probably five pages long, and those were pages that were really used in the library on a real reliable basis, that we felt they probably know exactly what's going on here. And we were surprised how they commented. People said, well, we'd like you to see me start this, this, this, and we were already doing that. So how were we not reaching those individuals for the information? And I mean, we have posters up, we have postcards, about any kind of ideas on Facebook. We do all that typical stuff, but somehow we still weren't reaching people. The school is the big challenge for us to kind of get their viewpoints on what to do here in our community. So we actually had a board member who was a former teacher that knew the superintendent, I don't know if she had him as a student or what, but she went into the schools and handed out surveys to literally all the teachers in the school district. And it was very interesting because it opened up our eyes realizing most of our teachers don't live in our school district. They live in Sioux City, and most of them didn't have my free cards. Most of them didn't even know any of the kind of programs that we produced. So that was an option that we had to look at. How can we get them more to what's going on here? And then we took surveys out of the area of businesses. We figured these were smaller ones, I think, like a two-page survey, and they could drop them off right back to the business, like the highly-grossing store. We could get them involved in other different places. We had them scattered around town, and we had both English and Spanish. And so we were able to get responses back that way. And I was actually surprised how many came back. They dropped them off at the library at City Hall at the area of businesses. So we kind of learned about the people that we don't necessarily see coming in the door all the time. Then we also met with a lot of area service organizations that are out there. You'll notice we're not very creative with names on our groups. The Cody County Connection is a group that's looking at how to improve the life of the kids of the community. And the tip on that group, that group that we're working on right now, a part of that group, is literally a real community center that incorporates the Boys Club, the Girls Club out of Sioux City to come over and do programming. And why you would actually come in and do programs for the kids. The library would set up a mini library at this location. There would be after-school programs, before-school programs, summer school programs, using the Nebraska Department of Wildlife to come in and do programs. The Cody County Extension come in. The Health Department, we're looking at kind of a well-rounded place where we could have social service agencies also have offices located in the same building, and possibly a daycare center located in this building. And then also we worked with a very jay-drilling community house, which does a lot of immigration issues and things like that. They're very much interested in doing more in the South Sioux City. They're located in Sioux City. And of all these groups, the Cody County Connections is the only one kind of really located in South Sioux, everybody else is in another town. Poverty and hunger issues were one of the big things that kind of popped out, with meeting with different groups, with people talking about like our town hall meetings, where they made mention that there was no way to get to the grocery store. If it weren't on a bus route, how did they get to the grocery store? We have an abundance of Hispanic grocery stores in the community, but they're located kind of in specific areas. We have HIV that since, as a typical community now, sits out on the edge of town, and kind of in the chocking center strip. And so if you don't have a car to get to these places, it's very difficult. Some of the things that we found out in some of our surveys are then doing research. Nebraska has a lot of people that are what they call food insiders. They don't know where their next meal is coming from. A lot of the times to go to county was 11.5 percent. So approximately out of 14,000 people in this community, 2,410 people don't know where their meal is coming from each and every day. And then Dakota County ranks 78 out of 79 counties in the health behaviors and social economic factors that's out there. Health-wise, we have a lot of overweight people, a lot of people that eat, I guess you could call it ethnic-type foods that probably are not the most healthy foods for you. And so we were always struggling trying to figure out what we could do to help with that. So out of that, some of the ideas that we have been doing in the past without really knowing how bad the hunger issue was, is we helped start the first community garden here. In South too. This picture is a garden that's no longer there. Somebody bought the house that the land was sitting on. The family that lived there and library users for a long time, they said, yeah, you can use our site yard. And so that was one of the very first spots. And then we have now a spot behind an old school that now has just been basically purchased. So we're trying to work it out with community garden-based Aids there for a time. And that has about 24 garden spots at that point. This one had only about eight spots. And a school group that we were working with actually was one of the first groups that put the garden spot there. And we did a working process on how to plant seed, how to raise your own food and pick your own food. And now we have one more community garden spot that's located out of an area church. That's a large fund that could be 40 different families using there. But community garden located that first shot that we did in the community for food. Then the next option became the community orchard. It's now two years old. This picture was taken a while ago. You can see in the background a fence running along that tree line. Well, now we have a fence completely enclosing the whole orchard so that here stay out of it. We're in the process of putting in other fruits, strawberries, raspberries, honeyberries, just a wide mixture of fruits back in there. And there will be a couple of what we call radio gardens that will have things like rhubarb and horseradish and things that come back each and every year. So what we're looking at on the community orchard is down the road. We figure out five years time period this will be producing fruit. And people will be able to come in and harvest fruit and be able to take home and eat. And then we'll have volunteers that will come in and help harvest food, our fruit, and then take it to our food distribution spots. So, and this was totally done by a grant and the city pretty much gave up that piece of land which had been sitting there for a long time. And so all the trees and everything else that's in there has all been paid by grant money. Well, with the combination of all these little things, what we had talking about some of those food issues, we contacted a variety of people that we knew in the community. And we kind of created this group called Voices for Food. There's a kind of a national organization that does this concept that's out there. So we created our own Dakota County Voices for Food. Once again, not getting creative with the name. And of the individuals that are there, there are business owners. There's an individual that works for Tyson Meats. There's Dakota County Extension individuals I see in there. There's County Health Department. There is a lawyer that works with Immigration or Issues. Hivey, or not delicatition, the dietitian. Hivey dietitian is in here. Plus, there's other interested individuals in the community. And then one of our area of business is actually donated land for us to be able to use. And we created our own Voices for Food Facebook page. And I'm going to kind of click on this quick so you can see what it is. Hopefully it will work. Well, I'll be lucky to click. Hopefully it will go right to it. Yep, it did. So we created our own Facebook page because this was, once again, as many librarians run into you have great ideas. But how do you get that information out there to people? And so this is a picture of the chamber in the ribbon cutting at the actual community garden space that we created. And each week they post new information, recipes. The big thing that we look at is how to teach people the healthier, how to grow certain things. So there's a lot of different things that come out of the Voices for Food type program. Let's go back to, I'm going to close this out. Hopefully I won't kill off my program. Let's go back to my PowerPoint. There we go. So we created a Facebook page. And it's actually turned into be a very good way to get information out there. We do promotional things. We send out flyers to home gardeners. Do you have garden extra produce? Do you want to be able to help people? We have basic information that we send out to individuals to see if they'd be willing to grow an extra row. And then this is a shot of our Voices for Food garden plot. This is located behind one of the businesses in town. It pretty much was just a yard sitting on the back. And the city came in with a rototiller to build the whole thing up for us for free. They've got a grant now to fence the whole area and put in irrigation lines. And so this was kind of a group effort of a variety of people to go in and plant the garden and then take care of it, weed it, do all those basic kind of things that you do or growing food. At the library, our contribution is part of the strategic plan. One, we do cooking classes on what you can actually grow out in the garden space. And the thing that kind of surprised me, especially in our communities, how many people didn't know how to fix basic what I call Nebraska or Midwest type vegetables. They do other types of things. This was one of our first ones, which was an interesting class, because it was a Chinese cooking class, taught by two gals from Japan. And then we had a gal from Mexico that also taught it. So talk about a cultural mix of materials there. But these are two volunteers. And then we had one staff member that participated. And then that's Kim in the background, who's another staff member. She is the one that's kind of taken charge of our library eats, which is a basic food education type program for individuals out there. Each month, a new recipe, some sort of specialized thing last year, like they did, for example, squash, all the way to the point of, how do you get inside a winter squash to do the fix? What can you do with squash? And the thing that they look at is how to do things economical. What you can get out of the garden that you aren't spending a lot of money on coming in and fixing these fancy Market Stewart type meals. We've started canning classes. Our library actually went out and bought some cannery equipment. And so now you can actually check out your own canning supplies at the library. The only thing you have to provide is your own cards and lids. But everything else is available at the library. We do canning classes. This next year we're actually taking canning classes out on the road where we'll be going to area churches. And when we have an excess of tomatoes that are been donated, we will teach the individuals how to can their own tomato sauce and then they'll take home the items. And with the basic knowledge of now, they know how to possibly camp. This was at Jamson Jelly's workshop that we did. And how to create something like that. We do garden classes quite often. In probably about two weeks, we do one on seed starting. We meet once a month. We've done a wide variety of topics. The square quick gardening is one that we can recommend for our canning gardeners that want to grow a lot of food in small spaces for the donated. But you just see the mixture of different things. That we do there. So that kind of ties into this too. For years, we were trying to figure out how to help our kids in the community, especially the ones that came through the library. We are a very typical community where we have kids come in after school at 3, 3.15. And they are here till 7 o'clock or 7.30 or 8 o'clock. And these kids run all the way from canning gardeners up to high school students. High school students are looking after their younger brothers and sisters because there's nobody at home. They're all working. And we wanted to try and give food. You know, provide meals here at the library. Well, we didn't have a certified kitchen. Then we looked at trying to do snack type things. But the cost was so prohibitive. Even though we were getting highly willing to sell it almost at cost, the snacks, we'd have to try and find a group that would help donate money. So kind of threw a lot of talking over the years on how to do this. One of the area churches that's located about a block, block and a half away decided to start a kids cafe. And this church on every Monday and Friday evening does meals at their cat kitchen in their church. Totally free everybody. And they serve between 60 to 80 meals each and every time. And we now work with this group, Kids Cafe, that once a month after they're done eating their meal on a Friday night I will stay late at the library after it's closed and we'll do a movie time at the library for the kids to get to have a little opportunity. This has become so popular that we've been trying to figure out how to expand it into other areas. We have families that have been walking 8 to 12 blocks in the winter time to come to the Kids Cafe and get a hot meal. It's now expanded that each Monday and Friday when the kids leave, they take a backpack home with them that has food that they can then, you know, canned foods from the food pantry, things like that. So this has become very popular now and something we'd really like to see expanded. And this all kind of came out of these discussions on how we can read the hungry in our community. This is another thing that popped up. You know, once you get the food or the vegetables donated, what can you do with them? So we got a group of churches and other organizations that agreed to become pickup sites and processing sites. And so, partners could bring in a five gallon bucket of tomatoes, a five gallon bucket of green beans, drop them off at one of these locations and each one has different times during the week. And volunteers will actually come in and clean the produce, prepare it and put it in kind of serving sizes so that individuals can come in on the pickup day and pick them up. So there's actually processing days and pickup days that people can come in and get stuff. And so, and these churches are all located kind of in different locations in the city, plus in also the city, which is just out of us as a location. So that's really worked out pretty nice. We have volunteers and we thank anybody and everybody. This is a group of adult special needs students that are right at that transition stage. They're too old for being in high school now, but they're in that 18 to 21 year ranking. And so, they go out to goodwill camps and do projects out there and they help in the community garden and they're very good at picking. In fact, this unique picture because the tall gentleman in the center is holding a sweet potato where if you actually look at it, it looks kind of like a aquatic bird. And so they thought that was a very unique and brought it in. The newspaper came into the picture of it. And the person standing, you can see me in the background with my red jacket shirt. The person in the blue shirt standing next to me, blue and green. She is one of the visitors that donated the land. And then this group has come in and helped pick tomatoes, helped dig. I'll do a variety of things like that to help pick the potatoes from the sweet potatoes. We have a high school principal come in and I have, during the year, our weed volunteers. I go in probably once every two, three weeks when I get a chance and since I know the difference between weeds and vegetables, I don't have to have anybody there. So I just got there with plastic garbage today and crossed to the garden for a week. So for me, that's relaxing. And today was an example. I'd be out there waiting for a couple hours after today because that could be a stressful week. This year was the very first year for that garden. And that garden loan collected and distributed over 9,000 pounds of produce. Just this first summer. That was without any of the other groups that brought in food. I think the total that was donated was very close to 15,000 pounds of produce came in from volunteers, things like that. This was the very first year that we did. We're still working at looking at contacting more area farmers as we get the information out for our garden. We did have a farmer that had planted sweet torrents that would become in a fixed form so that was distributed out. So there's a wide variety of education that we're still looking at doing. I'm looking at our time to be close to the ends of my presentation here so I could take questions if you'd be. Future plans that we're looking at right now is continued expansion of the education programs for growers. The big thing that we find is we get a lot of tomatoes donated and we get a lot of squash donated. We don't get a lot of like peas. We don't get a lot of peas. We don't get a lot of those other kinds of vegetables. And so what we're finding is a lot of the growers don't know that you can grow continuous crops of green beans or dry beans. Dry beans is a very good crop to grow for the fact that it's extremely nutritious, takes up very little amount of space and for what you grow in that little amount of space you get a lot of product. So one thing that we're looking at trying to expand this next year is grower education programs where we're specifically talking about if you put in like a 20 foot row 5 feet wide extra in your garden and plant these three products right here you can harvest this at a certain time and now you can plant something else in that same spot and harvest something else and then after that's done you can plant this and in the late fall early winter we could be bringing cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, different things like that. So that's a big big thing that we really notice that we have to educate some of our growers that are out there that are participating in. So it's not just one crop and you're done that situation. Recribing new growers, this is the biggest thing probably we really look at right now is how to get more people to participate and be able to donate. We've got volunteers plenty for working in those kitchens. We've got plenty of hungry people. They gave me a number one time and it was almost 1500 some people and come to the food pantries and have come to the cafe its cafe to get free produce for free meals in our community. So we're getting a lot of people out there it's just the need to grow to expand and then libraries and food distribution site that stays open past 5 p.m. That was one of the big discussions that came up at our last meeting was that all our food pantry locations here close at 5 and we have a lot of people that work till 5 and then they have no place to be able to go and so we actually started doing a discussion about what area businesses could do something like this and I would sit there going well libraries open till 8 and so then the discussion got into it okay well what could we take there and I kind of described what our situation was and we kind of discussed that if we got dry goods canned goods box goods you know that are the typical stuff that come from the food pantries that we could put that in the cardboard boxes we have lots of baker and tailor cardboard boxes that we could fill up with dry goods we can't handle fresh produce we can't handle anything frozen because we just don't have that kind of facility here but any kind of dry goodness people could actually come to the library and be able to pick it up at 8 p.m. and everybody sat there and kind of looked at each other and well we've never kind of thought of that before so that was a very good idea then that kind of popped out of that so that's one new thing that we're possibly looking at for the future they have to look at the legalities because that's the one thing we don't know about storing food you know what type of situation you have to have that's the end of my PowerPoint are there any questions that are out there that people might be having about yeah great thanks thank you very much Dave that was that was really a really cool program that you're doing there everything all the different things you're doing and it's very interesting to hear all the all the work you did to figure out what need to be done and then everything that not just you guys the library but the whole community is doing to get together to handle this issue there seems to be a lot of awareness in celsius city i guess about this that it's a problem that something needs to be addressed and that's the one thing i thought probably the thing that opened up my highest more as a library director than anything else how much a library director gets involved out in the community this part of the community of that you know that aspect if i took how many meetings i go to on a weekly basis or and how many that kind of stuff i feel kind of bad because i'm not at the library you know doing what you traditionally think the library director should do but that's that's being part of the community and so uh when we go to some of these meetings and somebody will make a comment like get a police officer make a comment once about the library of you i was shocked because it's like maybe we are doing stuff right because he just about all the great things that you were that he'd seen you're doing at the library yeah because we worked with gang intervention that's one of the other little options that we worked with besides the different ones that you saw there we also worked with the kota county expansion we're working with steam education type program right now and then environmental ed type things it's just on the horizon we're looking that will probably be towards the end of this year and next year that will be doing that we have one advantage that the city really works cooperatively with us and so like for the community water the community garden the city will come in with a cracker mounted rotisserie that they have and fill up the garden spaces for us or no cost the city has put in fire hydrants to be able to hook up garden houses at the community garden spaces so you know there's a lot of those extra little things and what if you know about how they can get grant money to do it so a lot of these things there's not really an expensive come out of our budget or that comes out of the city right you did mention a couple of times that there was grants um that paid for some of these was and that's what I was wondering about too was it city applied for things or did the library apply for grants what were these grant where were these grants um where do they come from Heidi does a kind of a gardening food grant each year and so the places for food the very first year the library the second year the city did it for the community orchard the city did that one the parks department the voices were food did a grant last year and this year with Heidi and there's other groups that are out there that are national organizations that you can put in a request for um so you know relatively I just surprised how much you've been able to do for literally nothing comes out of our pot you know our biggest expense is the staff time or doing some of the programs but yeah here I just was looking at the high v and I actually just I just googled high v grant and found a they have one step community produce garden grant and a bunch of other things that they do yeah um and I'm trying to remember $100 or $1000 yeah high v it says it won't it won't will not exceed $1000 per garden right and feel a good for them for doing something like this because we're also looking at the chance this year possibly end up getting it off it's putting fragments right here at the library and the raid would actually said we have some areas that are cement covered you know that when they built the library they kind of thought this was going to be a picket space or something like that nobody ever uses it so we thought about putting raised it right on top of the cement showing people that you don't need to have that green grass underneath your garden where we followed up we can build a garden up on top and then have the chance to participate in some of our programs they're the ones that are taking back care of the raised beds oh yeah lots of people I know people do raised beds just and um if the dirt in their own yard isn't uh good enough for gardening they can haul in a little bit and rather than digging a hole and doing all that where it's much easier build a little box put it all in there boom yeah and we've talked about doing like about a four foot high in these beds so kids can stand right here and play in the dirt literally and create the garden and then haul soil and other stuff mixed in grass flippings and leaves and wood chips and whatever else you want mixed into the bed here and what a lot of people then find out well I don't really need a yard you know I can grow something big things I can do this kind of stuff and so we look at that as being a potential program yeah and um container gardening is something too I know I've um years ago my sister she was in an apartment with a uh balcony and she wanted to go she grew in a pot just a little oversized maybe a couple feet wide uh tomato plants just in a pot on the balcony don't even need an actual yard to put some of this stuff in yeah I actually do a program on container gardening and one of the pictures I got is a fellow incredibly genius gardener for doing stuff but lives in a like a two-story apartment I don't know what you call them they're two-story but uh he has a little patio down below and then he has a like a bedroom upstairs with the balcony he has stuff growing off the balcony up uh and stuff growing all down and it looks like a little jungle and it's all groups of vegetables and flowers that are growing here so he will actually water up on top of the balcony this is a metal balcony and it will over water so it will rain down on the garden stuff down below too right so there's a picture of him sitting there reading the book in the midst of all this lush program and there's sweet corn growing out of containers and that's what's interesting about container gardening right now literally any kind of vegetable you can imagine you can grow now in a container so they've got dwarf varieties, miniature varieties because you grow for a tree in a container garden right great um so does anybody else have any other questions um if you guys have any you in the audience have any questions type them into your question section of your go-to webinar interface I can grab them for you um or if you have a microphone I can unmute you and you can ask your question that way uh I'll just remind you while we're waiting um I've been grabbing some of the links that Dave was talking about and putting them into the commission's delicious account um so I found some news articles about your uh the um the voices for food a group that you're with and the Hivee Grant so we'll have all of that available to everyone afterwards and we've had that turn your program around that was one that we did for you a while ago that one that's actually been viewed by I got called to Kansas and North Carolina oh wow they actually showed it out there at one of their conferences one time so great and um Dave if you when we're done with this if you want to you could send me your slides and I can put them up along with the recording afterwards okay yep just send them to me an email sometime later today so this was an interesting challenge trying to stretch this out in that 10 minutes are you kidding us you had a plenty of things to talk about I guess originally this was something that Dave was going to just do 10 minutes on for um an event for us um but I convinced him that it would be even you know can talk more about that obviously not a problem at all so it doesn't look like anybody has any urgent questions or typing in right now and that's fine um make me public covered everything you need to know about doing this in your own library um the links are out there information um contact info and a lot of these websites about who you can talk to about doing something in your area I think this is great like you said Dave doing something thinking out and you're thinking outside the box about what the libraries libraries should be involved in now and especially you mentioned I think the beginning in your city um there is not a community center type place that could potentially in other areas be this kind of organization a place that would handle this so in the smaller towns um libraries stepping up just talking to everyone else in the community figure out what needs to be done yeah because if you compare that to city you know they have they have an agency that does you know they have the main food pantry if I mean they have all these little things that we're trying to do kind of ask the library here and working with area groups to try and be able to coordinate it um because like the places for food we don't have a specific location we get different areas for our community the county town connections meet the different locations we shine because there's not a set place for them uh so you know it's very fluid and what's nice is this community is very aware of those social type things because so many of our social services have to hold out of our community there's a funding issue so if we're located we didn't have enough population managers to work in a department your own dedicated office yeah yeah so that's one of our kind of long range goals down the road hopefully if we get this community center started we'll get it DHS office then they can come in on a weekly basis and come in along the week to help deal with that's where our county health care is really coming in health here at the library because people can't get down to the code city we're looking at because there's so much to go down there so we have a lot of people that come in here and use the health care and then she also helps a lot of those forms that the libraries actually add to the forms for people you know if you're getting all that personal information you're not social worker you're not free to do right well it's great that your town a lot of people in your city are so flexible to work together to do this and hopefully I was just thinking as you're mentioning that you know they didn't think you had enough population to need some of these specific offices you're showing by having doing these programs and all the people that participated and all the food that you provide that it is something that is big enough that they need to you know have a presence yeah in your area yeah great all right mm-hmm yep I think we'll wrap it up for today then doesn't look like anybody had any desperate questions to ask you well I said we wait a little bit here so I think we'll wrap it up this morning thank you so much for doing this Dave like I said it was very interesting I'm very impressed cool about all the things you're doing also sad that it's necessary but people are in the situation that they need this but that you guys are out there doing it is is great well the one probably the biggest reward is the city traditionally has been doing for years now on Christmas pasties for our work Christmas time uh volunteers deliver Christmas pasties throughout the city people that aren't in need and this year they did over 2000 Christmas pasties and they delivered them literally in a two-hour time they packed them full of food everybody gets a 15 or a ham um and then volunteers drive them out around soda county and go up to houses and that's kind of the cool thing they got on the door someone answers here's your Christmas pasties you just see the tears you see the things that go on and you know just some of the homes like that's awesome great all right um thank you very much Dave I'm going to pull back control to my screen here now okay um cool all right all right thank you very much Dave thank you everyone for attending that wraps it up for this week's show we are recording and it will be available as I said earlier on our website our main encompass live site we have here our upcoming shows and right beneath that is a link to our archived encompass live sessions and right over here is where 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