 Welcome to this event. It was a great pleasure for me to accept the invitation to facilitate. My name is Orada, for those of you that don't know me. And I've been invited by the Dreamweaving team to facilitate this presentation today. And really nice to see a lot of people gathered here and already engaging with the material that's on the board. The Dreamweaving team had offered and made available the option of a tumble translation as the presentation goes. I'd just like to check out if there's anyone here today that would like the tumble translation to be offered during the presentation. If anyone here wants that, can you please raise your hand and give me a little sign? So I'm not seeing any need for that right now. If there is at any point, please let us know that. We have today one and a half hours time and there's going to be initially 20 minute short presentations on the different initiatives of the Dreamweaving team. And after that, there'll be a short five minute question and answer session followed by another presentation for probably about 20 minutes on the Dreamweaving. And after that another short question and answer and then time for open discussions. After that, time permitting, we have prepared three tables on the various Dreamweaving initiatives that are happening. That includes the self-education program as well as the dream catching and Dreamweaving. There's a lot of areas for involvement and commitment and participation and so today you'll be invited to look into which areas you would like to participate in and sign up for that also. I also wanted to mention that there are two photographers here today and if anybody is uncomfortable with that then also raise your hand and we'll make sure that you're not in the images. Someone's waving but I think not at this. Okay, super. No, Christo, that was not related to this. One in the middle. Okay, fine. All right, so we're going to do our best to make sure that you're left out of the picture and otherwise we'll remove it later. And with that, I'd like to invite Bavia to come here and give us an introduction to the Dreamweaving. Thank you, Orada. I was supposed to introduce myself but she did it already. I'm Bavia. Thank you so much for giving your precious Sunday to be here. We know lots is happening and we've had to do this on a Sunday and thank you so much for coming. Next, welcome to the presentation. This is how it's going to take place. It's in three parts. First, we're going to introduce what is this word Dreamweaving that we've been talking about. There have been a lot of different interpretations or different meanings to it over the years and we're going to talk about that a little bit. Second, we're going to talk about the Dreamweaving Initiative, which is where the three different programs, self-education, dreamcatching are under. And the third thing we're going to do is initiate a new Dreamweaving project of 2024, brought to you by the next generation team called Build to Envision. So Dreamweaving, what we know today is a design process that's evolved as a collaborative practice where different designers, architects and planners come together, present their ideas and over a time period begin to weave these ideas together, borrowing from each other, sharing with each other so that it becomes one or maybe two weaved collective designs that can then be built or presented to the community. So we know the Crownways 2022 was a Dreamweaving project from the design perspective. But what it has come about as an evolutionary process, which started as Dreamcatching, which was a space where people to come and share what their aspirations or dreams are for Auroville. This evolved into Dreamspace, where these thoughts were presented in different spaces over the years, which has evolved into Dreamweaving. They all still exist in some form or another, but Dreamweaving is the result of what has happened since 2005 actually. Next please. And why? Why do we, why are we so passionate about this? It's because we recognize Dreamweaving or this kind of process to be acting in a space that is somewhat central to the very different approaches and perspectives we have towards manifesting the city, the city, the earth needs. And whereas there are many other such initiatives and programs across Auroville that function at this center space, Dreamweaving wants to be one of those and to help keep growing and maintaining this center space. And that's where that's where we all hold dear and as a core value. And that's what we want to take forward. Next. So this next, what has happened in this evolutionary process is now what we call the Dreamweaving Initiative. You can count it as a fourth little thing of that arrow. And the Dreamweaving Initiative was started in August 2003, 2023, when David Omar and Mona presented the community meeting at Unity Pavilion. And there are four programs under it presently, Dreamcatching, Self-Education, Client Body and Dreamweaving. And these four programs are envisioned to be held together by some young faces. So there we go. Next please. We're going to have a short presentation from each of the programs just so you can figure out what's been happening and what the aims and processes are. Who is talking? Tanisha, can you please come up? That's not Tanisha. That's David. The hesitation that you're noticing is because actually one of the things we've been trying to do is to pass the baton to the next generation. So I'm kind of a little bit hesitant to be standing here yet again after all these years. But anyway, no problem. So the Dreamcatching, as many people know, started back in 2005. And there were quite a few years of trying to collect the various dreams, pearls, ultimately aiming towards Mother's Dream. Like we're all here to build Mother's Dream. And so the Dreamcatching was envisaged as a process where people can come together and try and step beyond the personal egoic needs that we think we have as individuals and really sort of aim higher to try and call the vision as a collective in a circle. So that was the process that we've been exploring on and off over the years. And so from that, did you want to add anything to that? Two of our Dreamcatchers have offered to read out some of the pearls that came up over the last few months. Thank you, David. This is from August to November 2023. After the last presentation we had made, we had these sessions in the morning, six to eight in the morning on different rooftops. And we collected several what we call pearls. These are kind of decantation of our morning sessions. They're not brainstorming sessions. They're a very safe and non-confrontational space. And everybody is welcome to come. So we had several different people coming in and out. Some were coming on every session, some were coming on different times. And we've just selected a few pearls just to give an overview. We have a table there where eventually we will be sitting there and if anybody has questions or want to go deeper into it, we can. But today we're just giving you a little taste of it. And so Tanisha and Kaya are going to just read out some of them. Thank you. Also just to clarify, the hesitation is not at all about the process. It's about holding this mic, which is terrifying. The process was lovely. It was every Monday at 6 a.m. and it was one of the best starts to the week. Could we develop a set of guidelines for the transformation of existing structures and spaces that allows for the evolution whilst respecting the initial offering that's weaving as opposed to unweaving and connecting as opposed to unconnecting. How to design a city with zero waste where nothing can be considered as waste. Our tourists coming to Auroville pilgrims of a certain kind, how can we leverage that to our advantage? If Aurovillians themselves are the ultimate product of Auroville, then the built environment of Auroville is effectively a byproduct of our collective processes, as we can clearly see being manifested today. So the cohesiveness of our urban forms and spaces will naturally evolve as we do. And in the meantime, the city is a perfect expression of where we are as a collective. Thank you. Thank you Dreamcatching team for giving us short brief. The next program we're going to talk about is the self-education program, which was initiated in 2023 of August. A lot has happened from this team and they're just going to share two minutes worth, which is not enough, but yes. Hi everyone. I'm going to talk about the self-education program. Is there anyone in this assembly that came to the first wave? Okay. So a self-education program is made to give knowledge to the resident of Auroville about the topics and the challenges of what it is to make a city, how to build a city. So it's a program to learn about all the characteristics of urban design. And so then when as a resident you ask to make decisions or to contribute to the collective project, you can have a better rational idea about what you're talking about. The approach is individual and collective. So in the program we have individual work and then we have groups of people together and then sharing. So it's a kind of dream weaving of learning on a topic. The approach, so we had several approaches. We had some artistic practices with line of lights with Bavium. We had some ATB work. We had some academic learning. All sorts of different approaches to help people to make their own learning through everything that we are presenting. Okay. So we had conversations with the team of the dream weaving process and identified some topics, special justice, values in urban form, density and diversity, connectivity and access, art and culture. These are fairly complex topics. They cover a lot of territory in a more, in a broader way. It's not the technical details about which screw to use where and all those things, but really more like what is the community? How do we want to think about the city? What ideas are important to us and most of all, how can we learn about those ideas? So the idea was really not to give a lecture and tell this is that and so forth, but really find processes which allow everybody to self-educate in a group. And so going from the individual to the collective, we facilitated that process and so it's a discovery process which was going on. These were some of the outcomes which came. You can also see them there and you can, after the presentation, come to us and ask us how it was in detail. But the, in a jit and like two sentences was really like starting with reflections of how you think about those topics, then discussing them, then visualizing them, then structuring them, synthesizing them, formulate some few with this, present them, revisit them and so forth. So it was a two months long process to really go a little bit deeper into how the participants think about those topics from their own point of view and not from a teaching point of view. That was the most important thing there and I was very, very pleasantly surprised about the outcome and I'm happy to talk more about it after the presentation and be at the desk there. Thank you, Krista. The third program that we want to talk about is the client body. This program does not have a team yet because it's envisioned to be an emerging kind of aspect that would come as a result of the other programs and it would act as, it would be a comprised of a representative body that's including the self-education participants, dream catchers, dream weavers and other members of the community who are willing to take this up and represent what we are as Orville to larger planning processes and decision makers. And finally, the fourth program, the dream weaving design process. The aim is to be at that central white space and foster a collaborative space within that where we can explore and create different ways in which we can design and build what we envision for the city that the earth needs. It comes, as I explained, it comes together by weaving the different ideas that designers have over time and what we want to share with you here is the next generation team. We continue to be mentored by David, Mona and Omar and they have handed us the stick as young faces to take this forward. So please welcome the rest of the dream weaving team of which I am one member and we're going to introduce ourselves and then take the presentation forward from there. Hey, I'm Henrik and I was also part of the dream weaving in 22 and for me that was a very meaningful experience and I was very glad when I was asked as one of the younger generation to help to make this happen again. So that's why I'm here. Good evening. My name is Radhika. I was also a participant in the previous dream weaving process and when I was approached to be part of the upcoming dream weaving process as a process holder, it was very inspiring because there was a calling to be able to feel that center space, that eye of the storm. So that's why I'm part of this team. Hi, I'm Shivangi. So same for me. I was part of the dream weaving 2022, the crown road dream weaving and for me it was very, very empowering and enriching to be part of that process and I really feel and like aim that this kind of a collaborative process dream weaving over many iterations and development becomes a collaborative planning tool for Auroville. So with that as an inspiration, I'm here as the dream weaving project team, one of the members. Next slide. So pause for five minutes for some clarifications. If anyone has any questions on what has been discussed and presented so far, now's the time to raise those and I have a mic here and which I'll be passing around but whoever would like to ask something please come forward unless I can reach you easily. Is it meant to be always related to building a city or used for other purposes? If I understood your question correctly, it's we're trying to look at these big, big questions we have of urban development, what is building something, what is the development, what is designing, planning, etc. So it is aimed towards those topics but no, building is not the only part of it and that's why there are the programs like dream catching or self-education that are looking at what does it really take to bring something to the ground. We need to be able to have our ideas that are not bound by anything. We need to be able to understand key aspects of these challenges through what is connectivity, what is density, etc. And then we also need to have a group of people who have the skills and the ability and the interest to be able to design and put those things together. So I don't know if you guys want to add anything? Maybe what is also a little bit in the room with that is that the Citizens Assembly team was part of the 2022 dream weaving and the Citizens Assembly team aimed towards also taking up any topic, any possible topic and so this is not so much the scope of dream weaving but it was the scope of Citizens Assembly which is not so much active at the moment but hopefully we'll pick up again. Eric does that answer your question? Hi. Does the dream weaving team have a specific topic to work on this time? I mean the original one had the crown. Have you decided on a topic that you're going to work upon? So that's the next part of the presentation. We paused before that. Are there any other questions? Right. It looks like we can then just move on to the presentation on dream weaving which will be approximately 20 minutes. I mean rightly like we already said that the next part of the presentation is where we introduce this new project. So dream weaving 2024 built to envision. So while the aim of the dream weaving itself is to bring in a collaborative space so that we can bring our ideas together and envision the city, the dream weaving 2024 built to envision particularly is focused on the aims of demonstrating a collective willingness to build the city, to depolarize the urban discussion in a physical space and in order to do this what we envision the project to be is to create a temporary structure which will inform the permanent. Next. So the location that is chosen to do this project built to envision is right where we are right now. So if you see the projector, the little pointer in the screen, so that's the place where the screen is placed right now. So yeah so this is exactly where we have planned the project to happen. So what we propose is because there is an existing urban magnet to this place. This is a place where we all come for different activities at different times of the day for different functions. So we would like to see how we can create an urban facade. So with the solar kitchen, PTDC and the kiosks around this side of the road and the other side the library and the residential building of Kailash. So if there can be a connected space around it and if we can make this urban facade one-to-one scale along with a residential zone line of force if you see the one down there that's a part of line of force that has been marked. So if we could do a one-to-one temporary structure so that we can start envisioning the scale. So that's and then the once we have a structure like this there's going to be a ripple effect of it which is going to create a whole space around it for envisioning and bringing more of our ideas to the ground. So we envision this project to be structured in three stages which is design, build and activate. So design is the stage where we ideate and refine our designs to bring in the collective vision where we talk about the beauty in the Orville's landscape where we have our functionality everything coming together through the weaving process and build is the stage where we ground this design to a constructable technique which will be temporary dismantable libel structures on an actual human one-to-one scale and the last part of the activate we have you know we begin already we're all here talking about this and thank you once again to all of you for coming. So we've already begun the activate stage and eventually this activate stage will include insertion of some urban activities activity like I mean people have various activities that we have around at different locations so there could be some which could happen in this one is to one temporary structure and some events that could be there and rest we leave it to the dream viewers to eventually work with what activities would be there too so that we can bring alive this urban facade and this one is to one line of force building. So yeah the focus of this whole project is on the build while the design and the activate stages will support this build because it is in a way we felt it is very important to bring this physical manifestation and create this collective energy of creation so we really felt that this is what is the focus of this whole project and which will again I would repeat will be done by the temporary and dismantlable structures. As we were looking at the process and the project structure we were also really hoping that this time the participation expands so at various stages there are different these different phases are not chronological but they are overlapping so design when it starts we will have designers architects planners but also focus group where there are representatives of different sectors in our society there will be randomly selected residents we hope to have self-education participants and dreamcatchers representatives all of them to be part of the design and then as it progresses the build also starts overlapping where the builders crafts people artists hands-on volunteers they all start becoming part of the team and similarly activity holders also start becoming part of the team early on. Next so we came together as a new dream weaving team last august and we started studying the previous processes that were done taking our learnings brainstorming and taking them ahead by meeting our mentors from previous dream weaving facilitation team different subject experts and subject enthusiasts we visited several sites around to be able to see how we can create this kind of urban magnet finally coming to this site for this year we met facilitators we started developing the brief we started meeting participants so all of this has been an evolving process and we are here now to share this with you next and the next steps for us is to finalize the brief start reaching out for fundraising finalize the process by looking at the practicality of it how what are the formalities needed to implement and we also hope to do various community pop-up boards and as much as possible on site where larger community who are not necessarily part of the participation they can come and they can just put up some vision board and have a dream catching on site perhaps an intensive self-education program if needed and with all of this as base and collecting the resources needed we will initiate the design process and kickstart the actual weaving next so after few weeks the architects designers planners would come up with their first design they will be presenting it and the next day there will be co-creating cafe where all the other participants they will sit together on a design table they will exchange ideas develop the design evolve the design which the designers will take back integrate them and after few weeks again bring them back to the weave to followed by co-creating cafe and at this point we would have a larger community update then as we progress towards weave 3 and co-creating cafe 3 the designers are strongly encouraged to start forming team with the builders or the other participants who would be part of building and activating the project so it's already here we have the overlap of the build phase go back okay yeah and then community updates and then finally we reach towards a dream woven to that center space integrating all of these various approaches and perspectives it can be one design or it could also be complimenting a complimentary several designs in different zones of the site and then this would come down to ground the dream um yeah as already said so with the third weave we would invite already the builders makers construction experts and maybe it would need a fourth weave or to extend that process so until we are ready to go into construction and this is just to illustrate how that process what come about construction detailing quotations and budgeting side preparation building the temporary structures improving the landscaping around it next and and this slide is also just to kind of illustrate from our side how we hope that this vision will be taken up by by activity holders or whoever is inspired to to fill these spaces with life probably with events activities installations public art urban discussions yeah exchange spaces next and so this is the timeline that we roughly outline for now and we will have to see how it will change in the development and so the initiation of the process we hope maybe even to be able to start in the birthday week at the end of February but maybe in the beginning of March or mid-March and and then we hope to develop a rhythm of these weaves and co-creating cafes which would be every three to four weeks and this is a little bit more time than we gave in the last dream weaving in 22 we hope to make it a little more bearable for the participants to be able to show up for for the dream weave even besides their other responsibilities so in in June we project roughly and that we could start building and maybe start finishing something at the end of August September so that the activate of that space could could start maybe already mid mid-August next so here's a rough overview of all the roles and possibilities of participation and volunteering that we see to to kind of make this possible as a community endeavor so from the participation in the design itself to help organizing the events facilitation of the events fundraising for the events the spaces that we need for these events then for the build itself we hope that for the construction we can go mostly without paid labor and and actually make this a community effort to make this happen so we hope this is a good chance for people to come together and and offer their labor and and this will also go along with documentation accounting fundraising and and for the activate of course the activity holders and event initiators and and then it's also about evaluating what we have actually done to also make this process a viable contribution to the master planning and detailed development planning yeah so here over to the side of the table we have small forms where we hope that people use the chance to sign up and and maybe already give an indication in which um part they want to involve themselves next um this is this marks the end of our presentation but the beginning of what we hope is a very exciting process for the community it's definitely been for us so far um we again we'd like to emphasize that the way we've kind of developed this project cannot really requires all of us to put some energy put some time if we're interested and inspired so yes please visit our desks overload those two over there um and before we end and hand handed back to our other we just want to mention that this event and coming to here involved a lot more people than you saw on the stage today we have the facilitating team technical team video photography food and snacks the different programs that are here on this day but before this we've met countless architects planners designers we've met different subject experts and enthusiasts we've met a lot of a lot of people who've helped us get here and many faces in this crowd you're part of this and we hope that the next time we present there'll be many many more faces too with this we'd like to hand it back to our other thank you so much for giving us your Sunday so sorry about that so um we've managed to stay really well on time with this presentation which is nice because it allows us now to have more time for open discussions anyone who has questions related to um what was just shared with you you could do that right now and after that there's probably about 15 to 20 minutes for an open round of discussion which can take place right around here as well as of course as Bobby already mentioned the tables on self-education and dream weaving so and the sign-up table so does anyone right now have questions yes i have a question that's that's me yeah hi um what i understood from the presentation was that the activation is the third step um did i understand right that the person that the um users of this building and this design would inhabit um after the design and construction did i understand correctly so yes they inhabit at the i mean when the space is ready but then they become part of the process while while we set the third weave when we are making the project teams so along with the building experts or builders artisans also the activating uh related members but could be active activity holders and all already become part of the participation process and to just say like what i said before activate also means to keep this space alive in different ways and we find that in some way the activate has already begun even though the structure has not come so it does i mean the actual activation happens after the one is to one scale structures are done but then it has also begun so yeah so actually what i didn't understand is um it sounds then that the design is going to not have the um not have the inputs of the functions from the actual people who are going to use it so you know when we step in with or i would like to do x y z in this place we're stuck with having to fit it into a design rather than would there be a possibility to actually look at what would be the functionalities already along with the designers actually we are addressing that and we want to bring it forth early on that's why the architects designers are encouraged to start looking at who the activity holders are going to be and um they would start forming teams with that and then we would have these co-creating cafe where they would share these ideas so and if there are no activity holders as such but we would have these community pop-up boards that we would like to do and where the larger part of the community would share their visions which will go to the design team and and just to add last thing to that is that within the process of dream weaving focus groups are given a very large importance where such perspectives would come in so if we have we are planning out the focus groups and we would like to add people who are interested to hold these activities within the activation phase and inform the the needs of that activity to the designers and that will be present throughout the design process through the focus groups as well so you have the ideation and sharing ideas on pop-up boards or through dream catching before the design you have during the design able to participate by providing focus group inputs and after the design you have through the activation uh sharing the activity or event that you want to hold in that space hopefully that answers the question and also through the dream catching which will happen on site and perhaps if needed a self-education program for which is site specific that can also bring in activity holders already in this circle so as we progress we would be sending out calls for these and whoever would like to be activity holder they are more than welcome to join the team and be part of the co-creating cafes and evolve the design together maybe one more thing to add so we are also formulating a brief which will be informed by the master plan perspective master plan and is also already informed through our different expert meetings so there will also be a certain amount of suggestions of what kind of activities make sense in this space for example to to not have too much consumerist outlook of what kind of kind of activities come up here so this is also part of the process it's a very simple question i i just didn't understand in the presentation i think you mentioned something about dismountable temporary buildings can you just elaborate a little bit on that yeah so the idea of doing this is through temporary structure so like we said in the beginning the aim one of the very strong aim is to create a temporary that would inform the permanent so at this moment what we feel is also important is to bring into a physical space the different ideas that we have of the city of Auroville or the different urban discussions that we can bring to a physical space so yes what the whole project about dream weaving is to create a design for the temporary one is to one dismantleable structures going would be a little bit specific to how why we're doing dismantle and temporary it's because of the wonderful flexibility that such a technique offers we have so many people in this community who are experts and have a lot of experience with building things that can be changed around taken down put back up how do we deal with the weather so we're trying to bring in this expertise expertise as well while we're saying that this is not what will be forever this is we're going to experiment with this we're going to change it around as we need and then we're going to build the permanent with what we learned so that's the that's the crux of the dismantle and temporary it's so that we can play with it as much as possible yeah i want to thank you for your presentation sounds very inspiring i'm just wondering i see the timeline that you presented how are you going to manage to bring all this forward in the present situation are you going to work with a tdc of gb yeah so the timeline is really in a way the time that a process would take a lot of it would depend on the scope of participation so things will be adapted to the scope to the participation and you know how many people get involved then the second part about the tdc is is that we in a way we have to recognize what's there and that's why in the map also you must have seen there is the radial mark and line of force mark so we have to recognize that as context and we have been reaching out to them so that you know it's not like we start something and it's bulldozed over but we will see we hope to do as much as reaching out and bring together all of these different perspectives and approaches and we hope to create something together could you come here i think this is a good segue to my question uh with all your respect to my faith and the optimism and with very limited knowledge how are you going to mitigate the roadblocks you envisioned from the previous dream weaving process and what roadblocks do you envision with this process question one one thing that's slightly different between this dream and the last was the intent of the project last time we the brief was to develop a set of ideas that we can give to an external body to develop the detailed development plans and the roadblocks there were different according to that what the roadblocks we envision are first and foremost will we have enough support from the community members to do this from the ground up and the second like so we also asked how do we navigate the current scenario that is constantly changing and that's um we're navigating that presently as we speak for now we we don't have the full answer but what we can say is that as process holders of dream weaving we are ready to take the steps needed we're ready to talk to the people needed and maintain that center space and bring people towards it and that's the motivation with which we are initiating the project and there are a lot of roadblocks that maybe we can't mention because we don't know but these are the two main ones that we're looking at fixing and look yeah and solving as soon as possible thank you very much um there are two short questions um you have a large group of people of goodwill many of them are not even all the villains and I think you should open up your one activate thing which is fundraising um if people come forward and want to support you um is there a clear open channel to do so in terms of money so yeah we are studying this new donation channeling group and and that's why we are just leaving a form there for people to give their contact so that we can reach out to them once we have this figured out because it's not as clear yet uh you you couldn't have a hoonie here and somebody helps would that be objectionable I don't think so anyhow whatever it is I think we should hit the iron when it's hot there are so many people here who come forward come to help and now you're reaching back out to them that's one my thing we are losing a chance here anyhow that's Frederick and the second one if you go out they ask you okay okay okay but who are you uh coming let's say you have a visiting card give it to who are you there's nothing on it here it doesn't say anything it doesn't say it's an activity and it's wonderful and I congratulate you but um are you refresh my memory did you were ever installed by the residents assembly I don't remember are you are you a body a unit an activity what who are you yeah we are we are not any working group we are not a unit but we are part of residents residents assembly and through all of these different groups coming together we hope to be the voice of the larger community so we don't want to be recognized as one group or the other or we don't if needed for whatever formalities we might have to formulate a unit or something but as such we we represent the resident assembly we are part of residents assembly I think it was mentioned a little bit in the presentation so we were asked from the previous process holders of the dream moving as the young generation and we were the four people of the young generation who stepped up and um and so we just took this up and developed it to until this presentation today um but as as you see what we showed all the all the roles all the all the roles to pick up to help out include organization include facilitation so this is not that we are just standing here and this is our thing and so it is also part of the invitation maybe I wasn't clear I wasn't directing myself to you for I'm it's wonderful and I congratulate you I'm talking about the dream weaving from the time onwards I'm talking about the whole attempt of finding a livable sustainable supported collective thing does it have any kind of mandate given to the dream we were I mean when David and Mona and so on I just don't remember no we don't have and we like we mentioned a few times it is a very much in evolving process so the process that we follow this time is already very different from the one that happened in the 2022 crown dream weaving and the ones before that itself were a very different process because it also varied with the kind of scale that the participation in and of course not to not to I mean to acknowledge that we are in very different times on ground so in general the kind of need of collaborative process in itself is different so we don't have a mandate to work with in that sense but yeah we are welcome to get suggestions if we want to create a mandate I don't know I mean this is something new we didn't think about it maybe if that's the voice of the community we could look into that and also to answer Frederick's first question we didn't want this presentation at all to be a fundraising presentation or a place to do fundraising first what we really want is the support at different levels from the community and to present ourselves of where we are because I we're not sure if we really announced anything much before this that we have been working on this for so many months so we really felt that this is not where we want to bring in the funds and the fundraising as an aspect so that was a conscious choice to not do the fundraising at this event I would really like to thank you because it was very inspiring and it was very empowering and it felt good to be able to dream and to actually have it worded out and transmitted with such a dynamic energy and it's so good to have that space to dream together collectively in these times so thank you let me also express here the wish that I have heard from so many people in so many different times and different occasions many of us remember the times when we were building matrimand together and this has been something that has come up again and again that if we can start working on something with our hands doing something physical it'll create a beautiful energy that will unite us all and I'm so glad that you people are heading towards that I really congratulate you and looking forward to that wonderful collective creative energy a dynamic energy that will start building Auroville thank you so with all those wonderful words we can close now this session of questions and answers and I'd invite you again to visit the tables engage with those that have chosen to hold space there and thank you all it was really a pleasure to be part of this presentation just to clarify there will be also space here to continue the discussion and engagement around this area right here