 When I look at President Hakka Inde Ichilema and Edgar Chagallung, the way they treat their opponents, we have had now a privilege of having Hakka Inde Ichilema in government before he was in opposition and now he is in government. When I look at these two, I don't think they are any different. These two, President Hakka Inde Ichilema and Edgar Chagallung, I don't think they are any different. They are pretty much the same in the manner that they treat their opponents. They fix, Edgar Chagallung, when he was in power, he was fixing opponents. Those that criticized him in a manner that he didn't like, those that said things that he didn't like, he was fixing them. I was fixed by President Edgar Chagallung. Hakka Inde Ichilema was fixed by Edgar Chagallung. A number of other opposition, they were also fixed when Edgar Chagallung was in power. This is a fact. We can go there and look at history, it will show us that these people were fixing, even some of those who were yesterday giving solidarity, even my good Sean Tambo was hammered. They fixed. He was fixing. Hakka Inde Ichilema was also coming. He is also fixing his opponents. He is fixing, including Edgar Chagallung is fixing. The same way Edgar Chagallung was fixed, Hakka Inde Ichilema, when he was in opposition, the only difference which I see between these two is that Hakka Inde Ichilema is more expressive. Hakka Inde Ichilema doesn't like you or he wants to fix you. He is very open. He will even have a press conference and talk about you and tomorrow you will be followed. Tomorrow you will be fixed. There are a number of examples that I will give you. It's only me that he doesn't mention directly. For me, he fixes me quietly without bringing up my name. But these others, he mentioned, who is this guy? Who does he think he is? And he went and he fixed him. Mili Ngolungu, who is this guy? He went and fixed him. This is the DPP, the Indian Union. Who is this woman? He went and fixed him. Fixed her. John Malanji, who is this person? Bonanza Bonanza. He went and fixed him. Recently, he said, ʻO ʻNi ʻGu ʻVa ʻTu ʻLe ʻWa ʻLapo, ʻLe ʻWa ʻLapo, ʻWu ʻTu ʻA ʻChin ʻGi ʻMing ʻGa ʻLato. And yesterday, ʻEd ʻGolungu was fixed through the wife. So, Hakka Inde Ichilema is quite open. He comes out, he tells you, I'm going to fix you and you get ready for it. Now, with ʻEd ʻGa ʻGolungu, ʻMing ʻGa ʻO ʻThose who are fixed, ʻYou ʻNever hear ʻEd ʻGa ʻGolungu mention your name. Never. He will not mention the name. He will not say this one. No. But people were being fixed. You see the difference? They are all fixing. The ʻEd ʻGolungu was fixing. You become an opponent to ʻEd ʻGa ʻGolungu. He will fix you. But he will not come out and open to say, this guy, I'm going to fix him. He will not say it. But Hakka Inde Ichilema, you are his opponent. He will fix you. But he will even tell you, I'm going to fix you. This is the difference. And you will see it very, very clearly. But another important point that I've seen between these two is that Hakka Inde Ichilema, from the way I'm seeing, two years in power, this man comes out very strong. He talks tough. Hakka Inde Ichilema talks tough. And even his face, when he's talking, you actually get scared when Hakka Inde Ichilema is talking, you get scared. But this is not from just from what I'm seeing. Hakka Inde Ichilema, much as he has that face, that scary face, with a strong voice that will scare you. I think he has a soft spot. He has a soft spot. Hakka Inde Ichilema has a soft spot. Behind that big voice, behind that threatening face, there is a soft spot. There is a soft man behind that. This is what I've seen. This is what I've seen. There is a soft spot behind that strong voice, behind that big talk, that scary face. There is a soft spot. And I will substantiate my point. But on the other hand, when you look at Edgar Chagualungu, Edgar Chagualungu, he doesn't come out threatening you. No, no, no, he doesn't. He doesn't come out threatening you. Edgar Chagualungu doesn't talk tough. When he was president, he was not talking tough. No, but he was fixing. And when he fixes you, I think you have dealt with Edgar Chagualungu, akam tima kāri bako ā vādi kosako. Vādi kosako. Why do I say this? Why do I say this? Look, at least for myself, the first time that I was arrested during your Edgar Chagualungu, I stayed myself nine days. I stayed myself nine days. Nine days, I stayed myself, eight days myself and the one day, eight days where people are not talking, people are talking. And I thank you for those of you who are talking. People are talking and so on and so forth. Other people were also arrested for a number of days. A number of days. Haka in the H&M himself was arrested together with a number of people. The people of southern province, you remember the wife to Chief Mukuni, the queen, you remember, and that group, a number of people were being arrested and thrown and the thrown mumma cells. They used to last. They used to stay there. They used to stay there. This is a fact. You go back and check. You find that a number of people that were arrested and the thrown mumma cells during the time of Alungu, they stayed longer mumma cells. They stayed longer mumma cells. Especially if you are directly in conflict with the with President Ed Galung, you will stay longer. You will stay longer. But this time around, this time around, look at a number of people that a number of people who are being arrested, how many days they are staying mumma cells. Myself, yes, I've stayed mumma cells I've stayed during HH. The longest I've stayed mumma cells is eight days. I stayed there eight days. But I think I'm the longest. I don't see any of the leaders any of the leaders in opposition who has stayed eight days, cut to which I stand to be corrected. Of course the issue of Bamundi Piri, that is another issue. The issue of Bamundi Piri, that's another issue. But look around how many of these oppositions have stayed. My wife. Will you buy in Jalaleta? Okay, when I'll be coming, I'll buy. If you look, they are not staying that long. Shuntembo, imagine what Shuntembo, let's face it, imagine what came out during the time of, what Shuntembo was arrested for. Imagine how he came out and whatever. Imagine if it was during that balloon. I mean Shuntembo was arrested, was it on Thursday? On Thursday and I think he came out, he came out on Tuesday I think. So you can say Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. Was it six days or five days? So I'm seeing that, you know, he pauses, but I think he's soft. People are being let go. You know, again, when you look at Amakot cases, during the time of Ied Galungu, those who were charged with the so-called defamation of the president, it was not a joke. Defamation of the president, people were jailed. A number of people were jailed and they were, they were making sure that they pushed their points. They were making sure they were preparing. They were really preparing and they were moving fast. Remember how many people were jailed for this so-called crime of defamation of the president? I remember myself. I would have been jailed. I remember that one. He came and rescued me. It was hard. It was hard and Tembonchito sweated. He fought so hard, despite being the former DPP, being a state council. It was ruthless. He came to my house. They said it was just something else. So, truth be told, much as these people are not different, they are fixing opponents, but I'm seeing that how can they achieve it? Could it be a soft sport? Could it be a soft sport? I don't think it's as bad as we see him or what we hear, they perceive what we hear. I'm not saying it doesn't fix. He fixes, but at least the treatment yes, I have been treated badly, and was taken to loquolo and whatever. But ὚ ὜ ὤᾸ· ὕᾸ· ὑᾷ· ὕᾷ· Ὁ ὤᾸ· ὿ᾶ· ⁶ Ἴ᾽· ὗ ἑᾼ· ὕᾷ· ὡᾷ· ὕᾶ· ὢᾷ· ᾶᾷ· ὶ ᾶᾷ· ὔ᾽· ᾷᾷ· Ἵ ὔᾷ· ᾪᾶ· Ὦᾲ· ὤᾲ· �意思 ⁨ Grandmaka ఱాత్చా క్మొనీరో మిమొనిస్నిట్ట్చా ద్క్ట్గాద్ండినినింట్హ్క్.