 about riding a pool noodle and the pool noodle, if you had to curve and bend the pool noodle, right, and get the pool noodle on the line, you're going to be using your knee and thigh, your inside leg, your outside leg, your hands the same way with a pool noodle that you would be on your horse. So you've got a couple visualizations there. You've got your hands and knees to think about shaping your horse, then you also have the pool noodle to think about shaping your horse.