 is often held out as a very mobile society and that is certainly true if you look at certain groups such as recent immigrants but overall if you look at the U.S. compared to other western countries the U.S. does not stand out as being a more mobile society. Dr. Burke. I mean I think empirically that's right I don't disagree with that although I think America was more mobile in the late 19th century early 20th century and I think that we've lost a lot of that and it's unfortunate both on the way down and on the way up but I think that what's important here are that there are policies in my view that that clearly hold people back that we institute in order to correct inequality and I think the minimum wage is a classic example of that in the name of helping the bottom rise up we're creating a whole subgroup and everybody admits this