 My buddy from Staten Island smoked both the dog and the chem sys back then, but he didn't bring the chem sys west because he thought it was far inferior. He didn't want it. So we know for sure that the chem sys was one of the earliest cuts. Oh, yes. To my knowledge, the chem sys and the chem dog are the two cuts that came out of the first popping of seeds. And they existed, and he remembers smoking them before he moved west in 91, 92. So I have independent confirmation that both those things existed. That's good to know. Because it's always been said that chem sys was a part of the chem A3D pop, and that's where it gets confusing. No. Actually, he thought it was ugly and he didn't like the high.