 Hey Josh, would you describe yourself as a better past catcher or blocker at Titan? Yeah, so I think naturally past catcher just because I grew up a water receiver. I transitioned to Titan halfway through high school, but especially this last year of college, I think I really improved inside the box and blocking and just kind of technique and footwork. So if that answers your question, definitely past blocking, but I think I've improved a lot in the box. What is your official size and how much does that help you as a Titan? You said my size. Yeah, yeah, how big are you officially and maybe how much does that size help you? Yeah, I'm about six six and a half. Right now I'm hanging between 245 and 250 and helps a lot, man. I came into UC I like 230 and really they wanted me light because they were spreading me out a little bit more. But as we got into my fourth fifth year that asked me to put on some weight in the box, it just makes a huge difference. Even five, ten pounds, whether it's confidence or whatever. Yeah. How quickly did somebody get you that Titan's hat, Josh? We had him ready to go. We had him all lined up right when I got off the call of Raves. And what was that call like? It was pretty cool. Me and Raves have talked in the past. Obviously him and coach Fick were roommates at our state and he's been down at UC a couple of times. And it was just a good conversation. You know, he's wrote just excited for me to get down there. And contribute any way I can to the team. And yeah. Was your versatility one of the things that they kind of focused on when they were talking to you throughout the process? Um, yeah, they liked it. Yeah, they liked the idea that I can do a little bit of both. You know, kind of be an inline blocker and spread me out to go catch a ball. Not only that, but I think I have good special teams value. And that's what I'll be. Sorry, I'm getting a call. It said that in your bio that you had offers coming out of high school from big 10 and sec teams. What made you decide to stay put at Cincinnati rather than going for a power five program? Yeah. Um, I mean, I knew I wanted to stay relatively close to home. And so it was kind of like, oh, state, Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, and obviously UC. But once I took my visit to Cincinnati and I met with Coach Fick and Coach Dembrock at the time. I just felt like it was the right fit for me. I really liked what Coach Fick had to preach and just kind of bought in. You didn't assume you're kind of each back full back stuff in your career at Cincinnati also, John? Yes, sir. Power. Okay. And then you work pretty well in that as well. Yes, sir. I feel really comfortable in that. That was something we kind of did knew this past year. But, you know, I mean, anything, anything that coaches asked, I'm gonna try to do it. So what went into making the switch in high school from receiver to tight end? Was that recruiting motivated? Was it size? Just kind of, why did you, why'd you do that? That wasn't really my decision. Our coaches just came up to me and said, we think you'd be one of the best tight ends in the country. I think we think you'd be really good for us. And they asked me to put on a little bit of weight, spent some time in the box and, you know, here we are. What would you think you would go in the draft and maybe what's kind of, what was the weight kind of like to hear your name called? I'm sorry. Can you say that again? I said, what did you anticipate going in the draft and what was the weight like to hear your name called today? Yeah. I heard anything three through five. But truthfully, I just kind of let it come as it came. You know, I didn't put too much pressure on myself. All I've heard throughout this process is just to have fun with it. That only happens once and to enjoy it. But when that call came, Coach Reves, I don't even know if you could understand what I was saying. My heart was pounding. That was a pretty cool moment. And I got probably about 100 family members and friends here. So it was pretty cool to share that with them as well. So maybe one or two scouting reports say that you were kind of almost underutilized as a receiver at Cincinnati. You think there's kind of some more untapped potential there, Josh, in terms of catching a ball? Yeah, I think, I mean, I expect a lot of myself. I hold myself to a high standard. But at Cincinnati, I just try to do what they ask me to do. I'm a strong believer and most important stat on the sheet is a W at the end of the day and whatever that takes for the team to get the win. I'm all about that. So I try not to think about that too much. Just kind of be in the right places at the right time is ball of finding when it does. You know, the Titans offense uses a lot of 12 and 13 person now. How much do you say, you know, you're playing with Leonard Taylor there at Cincinnati? Like, how much do you think that prepared you to be able to transition to that type of offense here? Well, yeah, fortunately for me, I had to know when he was more of the inbox guy, kind of the Y, and we called it, I was the H or F in the NFL. And so I kind of had to know both. And at times it can be maybe a lot when you're first learning the playbook. But it was really cool to I felt like I really understood the playbook conceptually. I kind of knew what everybody was doing. So honestly, I think it'll be a pretty smooth transition these next couple months. But we'll see how it goes. So what's the fastest you've ever run the 40? Probably for I might have got a 465, but 469 is really probably where I'm at, right around there, what I did at the combine. And you ended up, I guess, on Bruce Feldman's, I think, freak, freak list. Did you know you're on his freak list? Yeah, I did know that. Yeah. What do you got to do to get on the freak list? You think you deserve to be on there? I'm not really sure the requirements to be a part of that. But I think it's just kind of like, for example, Trey Tucker and Tyler Scott were on it as well. And those two guys, I mean, they're animals, you know, Trey Tucker, he's five, nine, but can squat a house. You know, I mean, I'm six, six and a half, 250. And I think I can move really well. And so I think that's kind of probably why I'm part of it. So Is there a tagging in the league that you've been a fan of and probably my guest in Travis Kelsey, maybe one of them? Yes, sir. That's always been, I guess, my role model in a way. I mean, the guy I try to look to, when Sunday comes around, but it's just obviously because he's a since he guy, he gets the ball in his hands a lot. And if you're not looking at the best side, and you know, he's one of the best ever do it. I mean, I think, I don't know what I'm trying to say, like, you always should be looking towards the best, you know, that should always be your goal. You mentioned that you had a connection with Mike Rabe a little bit earlier. How long does that go back a few years and what have your impressions been of him over the year? So my first, first time I met Rabe's was at the pro day last year when Des and AP and all those guys are going through it. And just really good dude, I remember he was talking to our team after practice during spring ball, and he really emphasized the importance of effort and fundamentals. He said they travel with you wherever you go. And, you know, that's a lot of the same thing we believe it's Cincinnati with Coach Faye. And it was just really cool to hear, you know, the things that we practice and we believe in is Cincinnati, you know, it's the same thing at the NFL. And so I think it'll be a smooth transition for me. So you got to know anyone else on the Titan staff yet? Huh? Have you gotten to know anyone else on the Titan staff yet? I had a couple meetings. I just got off phone with Coach Deuce, a Titan coach, and he's pretty cool. I like I like him. Good personality, a really personable guy. I'm excited to get started with him. Considering he's been working with Derek Henry the last few years, not a bad guy to be coached by. No, yeah, absolutely. He probably expects the best out of people. So I'm really excited about that. Where are you now? Where'd you end up watching the draft? You step outside at home or where are you? So I'm like two minutes away from my parents' house, this place called Knights of Columbus, just here in Cincinnati. My dad's one of nine, so there's a I mean, there's a bunch of family in there right now. It's just probably the quietest I could find around. We appreciate that. Yeah. Anybody else in the room? Anybody else joining us remotely? Have anything for Josh? I may dive in one more. I mean, how'd you end up a football player and did you play some basketball too growing up? Yeah, I mean, growing up, I played every sport you could imagine. My parents started me out in gymnastics when I was a young. But I played basketball and football through high school. And football is just something one I've always been good at. And it's just something I've always found fun, which I think is really important. You know, I mean, if you're going to play this game and make a career out of it, you've got to have fun with it. So yeah, man. How quickly did you grow out of that gymnastics body? Pretty quick. I think I only did that for a year or two. But a lot of sports growing up for sure. Baseball, basketball, track, volleyball, tennis golf, anything you can imagine. So yeah.