 Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna talk. I mean these guys right here man Histories in Dallas, Texas So so what part of Dallas are you from? You South Dallas and West Dallas. You from South Dallas and West Dallas South Dallas and West Dallas, but your mama lived in one and your daddy lived in the other one Well granted live my living projects and then we moved to South Dallas short after so well you didn't fish trouble We'll be certain Yeah, Rupert and they are so so so you you you come up as a young man Miss Jackie Lee will a man doing your thing, huh? Yeah doing my thing End up getting different other things. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, let's be real with the people So so you guys uh, I know both of y'all have been through a lot So when I met this guy right here, David man, David and me we chopped it up David say he been through a heck of a lot You know, so what what just just give me a just how was it coming up in Dallas growing up in Dallas, Texas? early on Well, you know at the age of nine I put out the house and then understand that but nine nine years old. What did you do? I didn't understand that myself. You understand me, but I went to the streets Hold on. Were you living with your mom and dad at the time or just my mama at the time? So she put you out. Yes Were you on a child? No about 12 of us. You are you the oldest? No, the oldest the oldest one had passed away and that made me the oldest. Oh, okay, okay So nine years old she put you out and you still don't remember what it was No, but I know that it wounded me. I know that much Mm-hmm calls me to do other things that I didn't want to do Mm-hmm Did she ever try to get you to come back home even after that because sometimes women tend to do things out of Impulse and anger. Yes, but it's how she done it Told my uncle I ran out when she know I didn't He beat me. Oh He did Wow So he beat you And and so growing up as a young kid like that and being put out, what did you do? What did you result to? Well different thing drugs that I Get meta-king. What was going on? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? But this was a but this would have had to be the what what was these the 70s or the 60s? It was a 70. I didn't know what we were so I had to hit me drill have wrong. Okay Okay, how old was you when you got in the heroin? 15 15 I say, let me see I had to be bad Yeah, 15. You were taking it or you're selling it. I assume that she was a run at 15 years old And and so you was shooting it because that was your way out. That was your way to get away from What was the situation mentally and the streets introduced it to you so I went to the street So that's what I learned the street So you lived when she put you out of nine you lived on the streets or you lived with friends or who did you move in with? Well, I live In the empty buildings. Yeah Sometimes friends and folks let me over the house Yeah Get him some tissue. Mm-hmm They take a break for a second. Just get him get him some It's all right, bro But that you know that when you go back to those places where where you where all these incidents happen It's a cleansing point really to be honest with you I realized it one day when we was driving. I was trying to steal a purse and We had already stole a couple of part cartons of coups because they had a little cigarette scam I'm no big time. I Didn't do anything major but Then I met my fault partner 24 years old and ex-con on parole psychpatient Robert James Bailey Robert James Bailey yeah, and He tells me he knows this old man. It's got some money. Just got a paycheck so I come up with an idea as to how to rob him and he goes in and Then I knock on the door. He hits him in the head and We uh It's all right It's all right There's some pretty bad shit poor old man. Wow, and uh, what did you guys do? What didn't we do all raped him? No What did you do to but he's still living right? I don't know. I Don't honestly know he was 59 hundred and I just Y'all beat him up pretty bad. Yeah, I sprayed him in the eyes with Lysol Arm and hammer spray at first And my fault partner was punching on him and after hitting him in the back of the head with a coke bottle Tied him up put him on the bed and I hit him again in the back of the head try to knock him out and I told my fault partner to watch him. I Went in Started pocketing stuff anything I touched I put in my pockets. I left no fingerprints and I seen the fireplace poker I picked it up and grabbed it by the hook and I went in and I hit him 32 times in the back of it Wow It's by the grace of God 32 times and I don't believe it was for him. Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna talk