 Hey guys, this is Matt Beck from FreeSalonEducation.com, splitting hairs episode, finally 78. Actual. Pretty awesome. Congratulations. We did make it. Doesn't it feel like forever since I accidentally said 78? Yeah, it took me a second. I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah, it really is 78. So on our way to 100, I don't know what we're going to do for the 100th episode, but I'm already thinking about it. No more wine for you. Yeah. It's not wine. It's sparkling. It's great juice. Sparkling cider. Sparkling monster. Duh. So, yeah, so you guys, we had a lot going on over the weekend again, so let's talk about Brian's, first off, Brian's birthday was this weekend. It was. It was fantastic. Which is Brian's favorite event of the year, and it goes on for a while. It's a season. It's still going. Yeah. Wait, hold on. Is it? It used to be. It used to be a season. It used to be a whole week. I haven't celebrated with you yet. You celebrate your half-birthday. I do. Yeah. So tell us about your weekend. Well, it started off with an absolutely incredible surprise party that I had no idea about, hence surprise. But my whole life, this is my 33rd birthday. I've always wanted a surprise party. It's never happened. I tried planning my own surprise party once, and it didn't even work out properly. And this was. You weren't surprised. That's so. Shocking. I mean, I just, I really wanted a surprise party. And I mean, as total proof that it was an actual surprise, I was an hour late for my own surprise party. Yeah. Oh, my poor boyfriend, Chris. He was trying to usher me along, and I'm like, they can wait. They'll be fags. We're supposed to go meet Matt and Christine. I'm like, they'll be further to keep each other company. Right. So by the time we walk in, everyone yells surprise, and then half the party tells me they have to go because they had dinner reservations, and I was an hour late. So bye. Which is crazy, anyways. I mean, it was a surprise party. So we were hoping. But you know what? It was really fun. It was absolutely fantastic. And then I went to New York and got to see all groups, all sorts of great stuff in New York that I hadn't seen before. Did you actually do stuff, or did you just eat, what is it called? Soup dumplings. No, I actually didn't have soup dumplings this time. Have you ever been to the High Line in New York? No. It's like the old train track. I forget what train. Oh, somebody was just telling me about that, and you can walk. Yeah. Into like a park. Yeah. And it's just along the train track. Yeah. It runs along some avenue. I forget. And you can see down every street. And it's gorgeous. There's lots of great, and it was kind of like crap-ass weather. So nobody else was up there, so it was actually really nice to walk along and see all the artwork. And I mean, everything down to the benches is artwork, and it was absolutely incredible. And we just had a lot of fun. Yeah, I want to try that sometime. Eggs Benedict and Champagne. Let's do the 100th episode from there. From there. All right. Let's do it. Ideas. Do you have a case? Yeah. We can travel. All right, cool. So you had a good birthday. We can just plug stuff in though. We can just get charger packs. Christina's really thinking about this. I just moved past what he said, but like, yeah, Justin, that's a great idea. Yeah, we'll do that. Okay. All right. Onward. Yeah. I thought it would be cool. We talk about it now. We could do it from a campsite. They have like electrical outlets. That's true. We could go camping. I have a generator. They don't have internet. We need like, we actually need- I'm sure campsites have internet nowadays. Remember when I called- Steel Wi-Fi. Comcast to- because this show wasn't broadcasting the right way, and I had to upgrade the internet. Yeah. And Christina's like, how much is that going to cost? And I'm like, I don't know, but we- YOLO. Yeah. YOLO. Got to spend money to make money. That's your answer every time she asks him now. What's that cost? YOLO. No, no, Brian. YOLO. You only stream once. Oh, Jesus. This guy. He just said that with a full mouth of peace. I hope I get to come back. YOLO. I hope you do too. I'm not your new lifestyle, man. Is it weird that Christina all the time says, I can't wait till my next life? Yeah, wow. I do say it all. I do want to come back as a rapper too. I feel like that's a bad sign. No, she's just having such a great time. She can't wait. Oh, there are things that I want to do for myself. I guess we should probably get this show started. You can still be a rapper. You can totally be a rapper. I want to be like a rapper, or I wish I was like a fly girl. Like in the back. So I think our new intro should be a rap by Christina and then a music video of her being her own fly girl. Oh my God, nobody wants to see it. In my next life, they'll totally want to see it, but not at this level. It can be a remake of Nas's one mic doing it for one hair, one scissor, one comb. That's a good one. We actually, we need to find a use for that green screen. We've never used that. I told you what to use it for. Well, now we know. I want to do a haircut with Star Wars in the background. I want Yoda. Wait, yeah, and we can roll the instructions of the haircut, you know. Absolutely, that would be great to be awesome. Christina's on board for this. All right, all right. Wait, wait. She's at cost, but a lawsuit from Lucas is nothing. Justin, Justin, that's a microphone. You don't have to yell. Oh, sorry, Brian. No, I have an idea. Picture this. I'm telling people what to do. There's like, I want to be like, no, don't do that. Hold it like this. That happens too often all day. We don't have to do that. We'll have like the little bowl. Just shake our head. We'll circle above his head like, no. Christina's Wisconsin Donna wants to know what's your rap name. Ooh. She's the one that named him Lance Armstrong. Good old one ball. You've got to make her happy. Wisconsin Donna, you come up with it. Yeah. By the way, whoever, Wisconsin Donna, she, uh, so who, who wasn't today who referred to you as one ball Matt? I don't know. Somebody on the live class. I know we need to let it go. It's not true. We're going to get you like a starter jacket with that across the back. I love it. All right. This is why I come back into work so you guys can do this. This is why it comes back into work to drink. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Somebody's going to call Matt one ball Matt and he's just going to call Brian and be like, you're fired. I didn't come up with it. Yeah, you did. Dad, can you talk in your mic? Did I? Yeah, you did. You're like, can you stop eating when you're talking in your mind? That takes a bite and then talks every time. It's going to be OOB. Okay. All right. Let's get this show started. All right. So thank you to Millennium Systems International, demandforce.com slash free salon education, Mizutani scissors, which we have a brand new long refurbish scissors coming up. So you guys definitely will want to check those out. Stay tuned because they go fast. They do. I'm going to buy half of them. The last refurbish we put up about five at a time when we get them in. So basically what happens, I met with Kiyoshi in Philadelphia on Monday. We had our hour and a half kind of pow wow that we've been having once, pretty much once every quarter. And our goal is to kind of, he goes to the factory in Japan and to the Mizutani factory. And he has what? Casey's here. Casey's here. Oh, cool. So we actually have a special guest today. Surprise. So, but anyways, so Kiyoshi goes to Japan and to the Mizutani factory and he gets, he kind of has special access to this back room where they have all these scissors that have even never been used. So he's been bringing them back a handful at a time and we sell them as refurbish. So they're brand new in the factory for the most part. Maybe they were used one time and then they refurbish them and then we sell them for a super discounted price. I mean, Mizutani scissors at about $180 to $350 for the top end ones is an insane price. It really is. So we had that going on and then, and that's pretty much, so those are coming up. Five new ones I think that he sent me today. So those will be up in the next week or so. So look out for them. Follow us on Instagram and you'll know when they come out. And MinerbaBeauty.com, they just sent out AJ's gift. So I talked to them this week. I also talked to them about getting some capes, which I'm excited about because I like good capes with the buttons and stuff. So we're working on that. It's up, Casey. And then we have the, I'm trying to get a hot lather machine. So we can do some shaving and stuff. So he just perked up. He just got so excited. So that's coming up. So again, video reviews on those and, you know, we want to find the best products and put them out for you guys and show you. And then also, Bercato, thank you for their ship and the products that we're using. We're having some fun with that and working with that company. So check out Bercato. We did a super silk treatment last week. Yes, we did. And there's a picture on our Instagram if you guys haven't seen that. And Justin, the experience of that, what did you think? I thought it was super user friendly. I really enjoyed the viewpoint from it as a guest, not as somebody doing it because we've worked all kinds of stuff. So we know what to expect. I feel that as guests, they've heard the horror stories of like the room filling up with smoke and all the stinky fumes and not being able to wash your hair for five days or put product in it or three days. And they get a bad taste of their mouth. And every guest I approached with it, even telling them like, hey, this is a three to five hundred dollar service, depending on your hair texture, length and density. But it's for, they still are super hesitant about it. Right. The one lady I had, she actually just walked in. She lives in Brooklyn. She's here like visiting family. She came in for a blow-dry one day and then I kind of talked her into it. She had so much hair. Yeah, she had massive amount. And it was, you know, to the lower part of her back, middle of her back, and there was multiple, like a lifetime of box color. A lifetime. A lifetime of box color in that hair. Yeah. Like the entire length of it. So from birth. Lifetime of the hair. She admitted to. She colored her own hair for a long time. Yeah. And she, the hair itself was like super unruly in course. So I did a very good shoulder work out of a blowout the day before. And I talked her into it. She came back the following day. And it didn't take as long as I thought it would to go through it all. You know, it's not a super long process to work with it. It's, like I said, really easy to work with it. You don't have a ton of timers laying on it. I just found it really weird that immediately after you dry the hair without a brush or anything, you then shampoo the product that, or you rinse the product right out. And then blow-dry and flat iron. Again. Yeah. But yeah, no, it was a, it was a cool product. I really, I definitely think anybody out there who's listening should give Prokado a call. Try it out on their own guests. I think it'll be a great service to have in your salon. And the best part about it is it's not permanent. It's a temporary service. Right. So I think that's a huge selling point from here on out to any guest you have, you know, like, hey, listen, like it's not going to, you're not going to have that new growth of curly or coarse hair. It's eventually going to come out of your hair and it's not really doing any negative effects. If anything, it's just doing nothing positive for you. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, her hair felt beautiful and it was like, it was smooth. Do you have the pictures or no? I don't. The pictures on Instagram, I meant to throw it up there. Go check it out. It looks super good. Yeah. Good job, Justin. Thanks, Brian. So fantastic. If you want to check out Super Silk, all you have to do the easiest way is to go to Freestyle on Education, click on the Prokado logo, and then that'll take you to a form. You fill that out and they'll, they'll call you and give you all the details on how to get it. Soon you'll be able to get it right on Shop FSC. So that's, that's my goal and that's in the near future, you'll be able to order the $69 kit and do $300 treatments on people like crazy. And again, it didn't take super long either. And she had a ton of hair. I expected it to take at least another hour longer than it's going to. Yep. The only, the only part I didn't like about it is that you have to, the directions specifically say to dry the hair out of brush or comb or anything. You're just sitting there with your hands and running through it. And when you run into a guest like that who has so much density, it just sucks up all that, you know. Yeah. I think that that was, that's something I keep meaning to ask them if you actually have to blow dry with your hands or what the true purpose of that is so that we know in the future. But looking forward to doing more of those. And, you know, what are you taking pictures of? Oh jeez. So go check out Dre's Instagram. Find out what Dre is doing over there while we're gathering away. I get distracted easily. I'm sorry. So coming up, we have Trending Tresses. We have Squirrel. Industry News. Squirrel. Shiny. We have an interview with our friend Casey who we, he's got some exciting stuff going on. He, he wrote a book, a very thick book by the way. So, but really cool. So we want to learn about that. And really what I want to tie that into this whole thing is he's got a Kickstarter going for a new book, the sequel kind of, right? So he's got a sequel to the book that he wrote before. And it's, you would like it a lot. I think it's like, would you say Star Wars meets Harry Potter kind of thing? Yup. So, yeah, so. Welcome to my alley book. You're right up it. Right. So very cool. So he's got a Kickstarter going, but I really want to talk to him about the process of that. And really just from a marketing business standpoint, I think people could take a lot away from it. So we're going to get him involved in a little bit. And then we have the social media stuff going on as well. So. Stuff. I think that's pretty much it. The only other thing I wanted to mention is our app for some reason cannot be found on iTunes right now. And I don't know why. This is what happens when you rely on other companies to make your stuff and you can't get a hold of people. So. As you're going to roll. Yeah. That's why I like to do things on my own. But I guess that it's not going to happen. Can't do it. So, right. So. Let's let's get into our social media stuff. What's happening on FSE social media. FSE social media. Questions to Brian here on our Facebook community. Or by using the hashtag free salon education. All right. I love that. You like it. I do. I enjoy that. Good. Because those guys are expensive. Yolo Christina. That was my birthday present right there. Love that. All right. Cool. So first off. Where did I pull this one from? I believe I pulled this from our Facebook community page. Okay. Amanda DeFore put up a picture. I don't even need the picture because there's so many of them out right now. But it's a beautiful picture over here saying how do you color someone's hair gray. And I know you're probably the biggest fan of it. So I just wanted to bring it out. What are some of the ways because I know you've actually been doing it before it became like a thing. So before they made the silvers that they make and all that stuff. Like was there anything that you've used or tricks that you picked out? The lighter the better. Unless you get it super, super light blonde like a really nice color to work with you're going to more or less get lavenders. Okay. And the earliest gray I made actually was with Paul Mitchell ink works back in the day. Just doing that. Back in the day. Back in the day. What day was it? A Wednesday. Yeah. Usually. And I would just cut it with you know clear condition or whatever. But you know from there on out you had all these different great ash tones that came out like the Paul Mitchell ash lines are fantastic to do it. Right. All the silvers that are coming. It was just really funny to see the silvers when you try to lift them later what colors they lift to. Peach. Like the vivids. Or not the vivids. Is it chromatics maybe? No. What line do we use that lifted to peach? That was the Joyco. Joyco. Yeah. The Joyco one actually the silver lifts to peach for some reason. Okay. It's all fun. I like peach. Actually Christine you would love that. You know it was a cool color just not what I wanted. It was the opposite of what he wanted. Yeah. I want peaches. But yeah no it was just the lighter you get it the better off you can be. Okay. So it will come out. Just try to get as much yellow out of there as possible. Exactly. I have to say that the peach does turn out very easily. Yeah. From experience. Sweet. Alright. Moving on. There was one that I saw today that's just it was like such a punch in the gut that I really wanted to talk about it. I don't know how to say her last name. Amanda. T-O-M-C-Z-Y-K. A lot of letters with no vowels in there so I don't know. Amanda. She has new client with hair that won't lift. Her old stylist used Goldwell but she just moved a few months ago and since then the client's been using box color. Color remover that she said was from Sally's but doesn't know which one. And then ion color from Sally's. I applaud you for doing a test strand. So they did it moved about one level in 30 minutes with matrix V lights and 30 volume under heat. Oh my gosh. Don't touch it. Grow it out and cut it. Yeah. Any insights. I'm serious. She said any insights or suggestions honestly don't try and go later. Just let it go. Clarify the heck out of it. I mean to try to make it easy because you are going to have to grow that out to a point where you just cut it off and let it go. Yeah. Make it a pretty browning. Any one of those things is hard enough to do. If you feel safe trying to lift her that one level I would just use like a semi or a demi on the root to keep it a similar color until enough of that that won't budge grows out that you can cut that off and then start lifting the professional say they're not scared though like they're all out like want to do like what would you do if they're not scared then tell them. Oh well. I mean like it's it's one of those things that if you tell them I can try safely I can do foils we can get it start going slow it's not happening in one day or you're getting. Right. This haircut. Right. But it tell them it's not even a matter of being scared it's a matter of you just can't do it. It's not that you need to be afraid of doing it. You can't get it. I mean she was smart and did the test ran and if you're only getting one level you're really not going to be getting a whole lot more than that. Yeah it's such a smart idea to take the time to do that testing first. Yeah. So huge applause to her. That I just put up on the notes. The top note is the link to this live feed. If you want to throw that on to Instagram and let everybody know it's fine. Cricket. That doesn't know my password. I forgot. So. He doesn't. No. I do. No I don't. It's creepy. Did you. Your thumb print. Yeah. I was going to say did you do the whole thing with you where you wiped the phone and then you get to see. Nice job. When you wipe the phone and then you see where the dots are. What I actually did is I just waited until you walked away where your phone was open and then just put in my own. Nice. Okay. All right. So. So make sure you guys that are online with us now. You can. Questions there if you want when it's from throughout the show. Is there more. I had a couple of the little ones. Okay. There was one that I wanted to hit on because I know that this has happened to me and if it's happened to this person as well. I doubt we're the only two. Cassie strange says how do you handle a situation where you spend four plus hours with a client doing a color correction and you do exactly what they ask for and when you're all done they aren't happy with it. That sucks. Yeah. I know it does. I've been there. Actually I have a guest and everyone was here for every step of it. The number one thing that I can say to make sure you do. Don't make any promises. Yeah. At all. Like they can have ideas of where they want to go. Unless you've been doing their hair since they very first ever had their hair done. You're not a hundred percent sure what's in there and even then you're still not a hundred percent sure how their hair is going to react like if you've been making them. You know dark red for all these years. Who knows how their hair is going to react because who knows what her life is. Who knows what her water is like. Who knows what her medication is. Who knows what her daily regimen is to keep her hair healthy enough to get that out without having porosity issues. So don't make any promises. Say okay this is where eventually we'd like to end up. I'm going to spend four and a half hours with you today and get you as close in that direction as possible. Yeah. And make sure that they understand that. Like I had to make sure that my guest understood she was. To walk around with a slightly warmer tint to her hair than she wanted because I was going from a level four red and she wanted to end up as an eight neutral. So. Right. Guess what that's fine we'll get there. But you're going to have to be you're going to have to look like you have some iris to send for a couple of days. Yeah. Are you all right with that. And you know she said yes and then at the end of my first big long day with her. She's like well it's kind of red and I'm like you but it was going to be OK. I can fix this in three days when I have another six hours to spend with you but. Right. And I always make sure that especially if you're spending that much time with someone you really are walking them through every step of what you're doing. So that one they feel better with you and two it just helps reaffirm that you're doing what you know you should be. OK. It keeps you from skipping steps or being lazy. I walk them through the whole time. I'm like all right now the reason for doing this just to make sure that there is a reason and then they understand that you didn't just waste four hours like that you took your time through each step of that to do what you needed to do. OK. To get the job done. Well and I love when you did that huge transformation you never left her side. You didn't during her processing time you were there talking to her about you know the possibilities of what was going to happen to her hair where it was going to go and explaining everything so thoroughly and I thought that was great. Wow. That was so nice. I appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah. No like it was it was something that I remember like I mean this was happened like what six months ago nine months ago. No not even that was over the winter. Really. Now they're arguing. That's what you want to fight about. There it is. Yeah. She's looking to roll up his sleeves bitch. Nine months ago. It's always easier to explain something to somebody before the fact than afterwards. Right. Really or are you just making this up because that's what happened. That speaks so clear when he's not eating food. No say put the pizza weight you're golden. I fully understood everything. That was awesome. I'm sure everybody understood everything else too. No. You sounded like you were so funny. All right. Anything else. I just want to do one more because I think this is going to be good for everybody. Okay. It's from Elaine Travis which doesn't mind me saying that. Basically just wants to know how they could do videos and share and kind of like become a part of what we do. Okay. So how. Without like sitting here she's like I. Right. Color educator would love to share on your site. Let me know how it works. So. For anyone listening how do you become a part of this that's not just a viewer. I mean I'm completely open to working with people. The challenge right now is it's really hard to find people that know how to make videos. People aren't really making step by step videos and if they are they're charging for them which I understand that because that's how they're making money with them. You know. So. If somebody's out there and willing to start creating education videos I think it's such it's such a cool thing and you want to share the link with me will promote you to help you get some following. You know and that's that's really what it's all about. And we'll promote you as much as possible. You know we're working with people like we've worked with Josh XL in the past showcasing his videos on our. Our website. You know we work with Nina. And you know I got I have DJ's class schedule up on the site now. There's a lot of people we're trying to to work with other people free salon. You know it's free salon education. It's not. Gratitudes only education. We just happen to be the ones that are willing to sit down and make free videos. You know and lots of them. So. So. Yeah. So. Yeah. I meant to ask you this earlier but. I don't know if you. Saw it on. Instagram but control from the hair house. Okay. He's actually going around to I guess. It seemed like it was salons in his area. Just talking and like downloading and seeing like what. Like. Pretty much like explaining what he's doing like as a business. Right. Do you know more about that. Like have you like did you see that post that he. No. What I. Cantor Cantor has been on some of our interview stuff. On at the show. That we've been at. And he works for. Ergo. Brushes and products. Super. Super talented guy. Him and his friends started a thing called the hair house in LA. Which basically just means that they do hair in their house. Is how it started. So they rented an apartment together and they decided we don't need a living room. We're just going to make it a salon. So they turned their living room into a salon with stations and everything. And started. Kind of one by one just taking clients there. And then it built into a thing where they decided to do. There. And catering it and they're cooking in their kitchen and then. You know doing a class for people. It's a really cool thing that they're doing. He's like you know I'll take a client at seven a.m. I just get up out of my bed. I put on some clothes and I go out and do hair and I go right back to bed. Perfect. So it's a cool thing. I don't think anyone can do that. But. You know whatever. Nowadays. In the. Nowadays. You know I don't recommend anything. But. If I was 21 again. You know with no responsibilities really. I would totally. Make my living in the salon. And just. Take my friends. But whatever. So. So they're doing cool stuff. Cantrell is doing cool stuff. Follow the hair house on Instagram and you'll get more information on that. Those are people that are doing different things now. Like. You know we talk about the big companies all companies are being creative and risky. And trying new things because. They don't have. The risk. Involved. You know they can try. Edgier fun things. And so it's cool. But. That I don't know if that answered your question whatsoever. But. Completely completely different direction. I think they were he was advertising is like. Free demos like like 10 to 30 minute demos like in salons like to talk about like what like. Education wise like what they're like I guess. Which is smart for him to do that. I think it's essentially just like saying hey let's download but like. We're in L.A. Like there is way more people. Here than we can do here. So. Let's team up what let's. Make this like a good experience and grow from each other. Right. Is it on streaming online. Or they're. They're going into like. Going into. They're focused on doing actual one on like. When you put the two things together first off you can't teach people on the Internet. If you haven't been in hundreds of salons teaching. In front of real people first. I don't. Right. It's very difficult to. To. Have the confidence and to get in front but. That is difficult to anticipate what questions would be. Yeah exactly and I think that that's where. I just think you have to be really good at what you do. I disagree because if you know the why behind a lot of things. There's a difference like the why for me. I don't know. Because like a good way a good. Example. I like how Matt is way more technical than me. So I know when I teach classes. Whenever I taught classes and there were the people that need that. Hardcore technicality to learn. I knew how to answer those questions even though that's not my thing. Because you watch a lot of times you've done classes and you're like hey Matt you'd be so proud of me because of what I've done before. I've heard it. But I will tell you anytime I've ever listened to DJ about cutting I understand hair cutting other than anyone else I've ever heard. Even like Takashi like just throwing it out there like different people. Scott Kimmel he makes sense of the why so it it just comes across like you get it. I know what you're saying but all of those people have taught thousands of classes. And I feel you have to teach different types of people just how to approach the masses. But what I'm saying certain people that have taught a thousand classes still don't come across. Right. What I'm trying to say but the guy or girl who hasn't taught any classes still is probably going to do a lot worse job than the people are still watching. Necessarily if you totally get something I disagree I disagree. If you get something inside and out backwards like any which way I disagree. Are you doing our next video? Yeah I say if you could notice during our podcast I don't open up my mouth unless it's something that I have like I know. We understand you can show us but actually educating to the point where we can retain it and show it back to you I don't have to agree I get it but I don't really agree with it. Oh no we're going to bust everyone's chops Christina you're not excluded from that. You jump off you get it back everybody gets it. No I get I get what you're saying and I agree there are probably cases where somebody doesn't teach the classes but they still are super technical and talented. Yeah I think it's a little it could be like a little different like going off of like what Christina is saying like what if somebody is completely like anxious and like just like filled with anxiety in front of people doesn't get in front of people but has studied the crap out of something and knows it inside and out. Yeah they're okay in front of a camera because the camera is technically an inanimate object like just because like their video can potentially be seen by like millions right. The book writer over there is saying no. I think like you have a mediocre a mediocre person that's comfortable teaching in front of people very good at talking to other people that could flourish in that situation a person might not be as technically good at what you're saying but actually but actually has personality and has like a presence. Right. Yeah. Right. And you have the guy that's try the most amazing hairdresser in the world but doesn't have to all right. That doesn't mean he can't he doesn't know it. Yes. Okay. All right. So essentially a lot of artistic genuinely creative artistic people are very awkward. Can we have a war right at being in front of the camera and aren't great at smoozing like an audience and you know I I think the only reason I had the only reason I had to argue with Chris is because you were literally describing me. Is that the conclusion? That's what it was. I know I think you are talented and you know a lot about something. You know I don't want this but I love Brian. Yeah. Yeah. But let's do what do I know a lot about. All right. Let's see if we can I'm just glad I was talking and I didn't leave the camera on like the whole time. I started talking and I on the table like I just hang out I can't talk and do my job I can't chew gum and play the drums right is that what your dad says yeah yeah something like that so I'm actually I'm not sure exactly but they Mr. Beck right in now yeah he's probably watching so what's going on in the chat room anything no we are all over the place it literally stopped they stopped talking like super cuts is overrated they're like come on hurry up I know I know so no they're totally pirate so summertime but it's kind of more like all Rowell Yeah that's what let's get I want to do is I want to get Casey I want to see him so we're gonna have to how to figure out BPS the easiest way all right And also, if you have a question for Casey, you could call in 844-FSE Live as well, or chat it in. Yeah, and just throw the headphones on. You get to wear those cool things, too. I think they're so sorry. They're not that sweaty. OK, all right, cool. I am that intimidating, though. So key thing is you just want to be really close to the mic. Like this close? That's perfect. OK. You got to be really intimate with me. So we know, Casey, so my brother works with you. True story. True story. I love your brother. How's that going? I love him. He's a good guy, right? I really do. I don't know if I know a better person. I know that's crazy to say. He just, even when he's really mad and angsty, he's still smiling. He's a Beck. It's in their jeans. It's funny, yeah. No, I lived with both of them. That's true. She actually slept in the same bed as both of us. All right, now we're getting weird. So listen. Now it just got weird. That's so weird. No, so this is a good story. Yeah, I'm fine with that, too. Let's get weird. So when I first... More champagne. When I first moved to New Hope, I started working in this salon. So it was owned by somebody else. And I didn't have an apartment or anything. I came with a suitcase and no money whatsoever. So I slept on the guy's couch upstairs, and the owner lived upstairs. So then eventually I got an apartment after about a month way down on Main Street, one of those apartments where you rent a one-room place. And it's already furnished with a weird fold-out couch. Did you have to share the bathroom too? No, no. It had its own... There's apartments down there that there's a middle bathroom and they share them. It's not like that, but it was probably in that same building. So we had that apartment. It was a one-room efficiency with a bathroom off to the side. It only had a microwave and a sink. So I met Christina two months after that at karaoke. I was singing my heart out. What were you singing? What was I singing? I'm not even saying. No, I wanted to. I was singing Tim McGraw, because I was from Illinois, and I was singing Dashboard Confessionals. It was a very romantic night. He's very weepy. So we went... That I did the same thing before I saw him. My body was cute. So we met anyways. And then two weeks later, I flew back to Illinois for Christmas and ended up bringing my brother back with me. So my brother drove in the car with me. He didn't have a place to live either. So I met her. So we were all just kind of in this efficiency apartment and making the best of it. I'm like, that's so weird. There wasn't anything weird. It's just the way it was. So anyways. If you think it's weird, you got a dirty mind. That's what Matt's saying. Creepy. All right, so yeah, my brother is a good guy, thanks. He's a great guy. So I want to talk about your first book first. And the reason we're going to talk about a book on a hairstylist show is that the world of promoting yourself and being able to create a sort of business for yourself and doing those things is... Is really what this... What it's all about. It's totally different nowadays. So I want to talk about your first kind of book adventure that you had. So take me to the beginning. This was your first book, right? This was the first book I've ever wrote. My background's in animation, actually. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's fun. I draw. It has a lot to do with storytelling. And I had this book, and I kind of didn't want to have to deal with publishers and what they thought my book was like, because I thought I knew what people wanted to read. Yeah, and when you go with a publisher, there's a lot of caveats there. You're pretty much limited to like a number of words you can have. They oversee everything. Is it kind of like a corporate world of putting rules on? Like stipulations on things? It really is that. They will tell you everything, but then they won't support you on the marketing side of things. So it's almost like, yeah, we like your manuscript, but do this, this, and this to change it. And kind of if you end up doing well, they'll want something. And then we won't back you up on it at all until you're famous. And then we'll come in and swoop in and be like, yeah, we said this the whole time. Right, yeah. So when did you first, well, not writing in general, say like your idea of a book, you know? The first book's been out for two years. I would say five years before that was when I started the concept or thinking about it. I didn't know what I was doing, just like everyone that starts a business of any sort. Were you writing before you said, oh, I'm going to do a book? Or were you like, I think I need from your animation? Right, so I was doing an animated show in my head, I had this, not even just my head, I had all these character designs, I had backgrounds, I had people doing voiceovers, and I was doing a lot of the voiceover work. And I had about an hour recorded for like the first two episodes. All this worked on two years later, all these people flaked out at me. Okay. Because animation isn't something you really, you can't do it by yourself. Right. Even like South Park involves at least 30 people. Yeah. And they're doing most bare bones thing you can do. Right. So I, what could I do creatively or I don't have to involve? I don't have to rely on other people, it's basically what they came down to. Right. Which I found out later, I rely on a good amount of people for this. Right. Not as many as I would have to for that. Yeah. What can I do creatively? And I was like, I can write a book. And I had this concept, basically, I thought JK Rowling did a really good job of engaging readers. She got like kids to read and she stopped writing. And there was this huge hole. And business 101 is, you see a hole. Yeah, you fill it. Someone fills it. Right. And I thought, why not? Like, no one else is doing it. Why can't I do that? Right. And that's where the concept started. Okay. But then I thought like, let's take this very English concept of kind of fighting with twigs. Right. And make it a little bit more, a little bit more American, but at the same time make it more international and throw in these characters that are not just English, like American, African. Like a Native American, like different concepts and try to make them be cohesive. Okay. And that was really where it started. Like let's take all these mythologies from around the world and make them into one mythos, like one idea that would make sense, but like just have total fun with messing around with the genre. Yeah. Like anime, comic books, take all this stuff and like almost if you told a person, they'd be like, there's no way that would work. Right. But then you read the book and you're like, oh my God, it worked. Right. And that's like half the response we get from people. Okay. Cause we go to Comic-Cons now, that's how we promote the book. Okay. We go to shows, we do like probably 10 a year. Nice. And we go and I talk to people directly, which I feel is the best way to do anything. Yeah. We just got a question for you actually. Oh really? How long did it take you to write it? So the first book took me honestly, this is true story, five years, but I wrote the first four chapters like out of the gate like, oh, I'm just gonna write this thing. And then I like realized, I don't know what they're doing. No idea what I'm doing. And I started reading books and trying to educate myself. I probably did that for like, probably a year. Like I read like on writing by Stephen King, it was a great book. Okay. Is there any point in there to tell you to get DUIs? No. No DUIs. That's after your famous. I figured Stephen King- That's when they can blast it. I was like, how many people that tell you to mow down pedestrian a couple of times. Well, the Stephen King thing is hilarious because that book on writing, like it's half memoir and half like, this is how you write. And he doesn't listen to a word of what he says. His whole thing is like being a minimalist writer. And like, if you read his books, it's like, okay. Yeah. Are you done describing like the lamppost on the corner? Right. But what he said, it really stuck with me. And honestly, that book is kind of, I live by the what he says in that book, not what he actually does. Right. They tell you that. Once I learned that, and once I got back into it, it was pretty fast. Okay. And that being said, once we have the first one. Did you start writing like every day? I... Like, you know how you get this image of people, of writers, like writing every day and they have like rituals and they come a little bit closed off or, you know, like, I don't know, like I see movies and things. I feel like it is something that is so self-involved, but at the same time, so like, For some, for everyone. You hate yourself while you're doing it. Like, you're making this world up that, and you're like, I hope people like this. Yeah. If not, I've just wasted my whole free time for every day. Like to the point where it affects your life. Like you're looking around and like, oh, that'd be good in the book. Like, random things. And it's just like... It's consuming. It is very consuming. And but I think I've harnessed it a little bit because the first book took that five, six years. This one took like a year and a half. So like, I kind of figured out my process. And I think that's true with everything. You've written the second book. Oh, it's ready to go. Oh, okay. Did you know? I did this kickstart. Like a lot of people do kickstarter and like, oh, three years from now, this thing will be ready. Please give me money. Like, I want to, I don't want to be that guy. I want to be like, give me money, help me out and you'll get your thing in two months. Like, not like... Right. Did you know, like, when you had the first book, where you were going, that you were going to do a second? Like, how does that come about? You know, like... I knew it was going to be a series. I had no idea how long it was going to be. But after I wrote the first one and we got such a good response, it was like... How do you know when to end it and when you're going to start your... Well, I mean, it's... Because did you already have an idea? I guess you had the idea of the whole story of where it was going. No, no, no. Like, how does that happen? And if J.K. Rowling told you she did, she's a liar. She wrote that first book. She's like, please, someone like this. Yeah. Yeah. And then after, she's like, oh, yeah. Let's make this be this. So it is kind of like you don't know. It is in the beginning, but then since... Once I knew it was a series, it was like I have to figure this out. Right. The second book wasn't just like, I'm going to write the second book. It was like, I have to figure out where this is going, where it's ending, where the series is going to be. Like, because now there's other people reading. Right. It's not just me and my wife. My wife is like the first editor. She's like the first person that looks at it. And like, she's really good at it. And she's so harsh. Like, I say, she's so harsh in the greatest way. Like, if she wasn't, she told me. She's like, I was so afraid that I was going to tell you this book sucks. And it almost looked on her face like, it's good. Like, she was surprised. Like, I just spent five years on it. I hope it's good. Because otherwise, oh my God, like... That's funny. I'm going to have to bar 10 for the rest of my life. That's funny. So you, that's the funny thing because even like when we started the YouTube channel, it was kind of at the beginning, it was like, it was me and Thad with a couple of beers with, you know, just trying to get the camera to focus like while we're doing all of a sudden, when people start watching it, now you're like picking apart everything. So... Well, they'll do it for you. Well, yeah. Or they'll do it for you. They will, but at the same time, you have those people that are so into it that like you feel like you owe them something. Oh yeah. Well, with a book, I can imagine. Like, oh my God, they're going to read the second book like you've killed all of you. Spoiler alert. Soon, they're going to be walking around in those costumes at Comic-Con. I hope so. I know, right? And I don't hope so. Right. So the business aspect of it, when you started, you know, writing and you got the book, like how did you put it out there? And how, what happened? I feel like Kickstarter helped a lot with that. It was a direct opportunity to engage people. Yeah. And it's almost like you can gauge is good enough. Right. You get like real direct feedback where they're like, yeah, we'll give you this much money to make this happen. Which, and it's really awkward because that's what it is. You almost feel like you're, I don't use prostitute, but I mean, it's almost like, oh, I like you this much. Or, oh, this concept is this good. And it's like, you know, like we asked for $6,000 on the first one. Okay. We did over seven. Okay. So we hit our goal and went a little bit further. And how did you, so do you think, because this is the new way of people kind of helping to get their business going. And I think you did it in the right way. You're doing it, you're giving them a product in the end result. You know, they can put up whatever money they wanna put up, but that's, you know, and that's their choice. But there's probably a minimum, right, of. I mean, the new one, we did like a dollar. Oh, really? We did a dollar and I would tell you a joke on Twitter. Okay. I just thought like we should do something like, you know, there's people don't have money. Yeah. But wanna help. That's creative though. A dollar seems like. And then there's a certain amount that you get, give and then you get a ball, right? I think if 2,000 people donated a dollar, that's amazing. Yeah. Fantastic. That's great. Right. And that's 2,000 jokes. Right. Yeah, come on subscribers. Just a dollar. I don't have to make up a lot of jokes, but that's fine. I just tell them the same one. It doesn't have to be different one. No, I won't. So, okay. So you, up to like how many? Maybe like three or five really. 10 rotating jokes. Let's talk about the business part of it. So you, so with Kickstarter, you put your book up there. What about the description, all of that stuff? How did you get $7,000 for a product that no one knew anything about really? How do you think that worked? Basically, like I said, I saw a hole and I tried to fill it. That was the first concept. But the second part was that I am very particular and I like to have hands on everything. Okay. I can do, like a lot of people that would do this, one are introverted and that doesn't really help you in this kind of world. But I bartended for 20 years so I talk to people all the time. So that helped. Yeah. Two, I can do all my graphic design work myself because my background's in animation so it can look professional. And I took film classes so like I can put that and it's not gonna look like a guy with an iPhone doing a selfie for 20 minutes going, please buy my book. Like it's, it looks professional. Okay. That helps. You have to look professional. Yeah. You have to look professional. I would say that's probably the number one thing. Yeah. Beyond that, sincerity helps with anything. Right. You need a good product. Yeah. Once we actually did engage real people and got like the first show we were at, I had a kid buy the book on a Thursday. Okay. 12 year old kid. I mean, he was a geek. Like there's no, they all are. I mean, I am. Whatever. Yeah. Most of us are these days. Right. He buys the book on Thursday, comes back Saturday with his mom and he's really awkward. He comes back to the thing and he's like, I really liked it. I'm like, oh, how far did you get? So I read the whole thing. Like two days. Yeah. It's such a long book. I wrote it. It took me five years. I wrote it. I could not read that book in two days. Yeah. Like this took me five years to write. It took you two days to read it. Yeah, but they, you need to already know how to read when you're in kindergarten nowadays. Yeah. Kids are wizards. And I'm like, who's your favorite character? He's like all of them. Aw. And I was like, we're good. Yeah. I think we're good. Yeah, that's a good sign. I think we have something here, you know? Oh, it's awesome. That is awesome. And then like there's been things like, the last show we did was like two weeks ago. This guy just was walking by the boo with things. Like that book rocked. Like that's what he said. Really? Like get back here. Like you can't just say that and I walk by. Yeah, you want to know. I can't. It's like fuel. It really is. The whole Kickstarter thing, getting people involved and Matt going back on saying like when you have the product already there that, you know, it's already there for them. It's not something that you're trying to raise money for, you know, and then people like giving to things that they love or are enjoying. So like, I think that is like, probably a better success rate doing it that way. I mean, I don't know, but. Feeling a part of something is always true. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, you can look back and you get a product from something that you help support. And I think it's cool. It's such a good idea. It's based on even this business that, I'm sorry I cut you off. No, you're fine. I was just gonna, yeah. It's what we're doing here. So it kind of, you know. Yeah, it's just, I think people take advantage of what Kickstarter is about, but I think you're doing it in the proper way. Yeah, I didn't make like potato salad or whatever. Right. Or like some people do stuff, you know, cause their car broke or like, there's like all these things that come up and you see it all through Facebook. But like some, you know. Some million, like million dollar companies use it for like a pre-buying situation. Yeah. It's just crazy. Yeah, you already have. That's not like the essence of it is supposed to be, but Kickstarter is not gonna tell them no, because they get part of the kickback, you know. But they've honestly without it, the first book, it would have been a lot harder to get out. We would have done it anyway. I mean, that's just the way it is. You have a drive to do something, you're gonna do it, but like it helped tremendously. Yeah, and we've known people that have, you know, written a book, got it published through a publisher company or whatever. And you know, they're looking for your money too. You know, those publishing companies and. Well, like I said, they won't. They don't promote it. They won't back you or promote it. And you have to figure out ways to do that yourself. Yeah. And our biggest thing is directly, that's our thing. Well, I think there was a fad in saying that you wrote a book too. Yeah. For people to say that they just had it out there and you actually have like book that you want to be read. Well, I think. You know, like a story. The biggest problem with it right now is like anyone can publish a book. Right. But you can't publish a good book. Right. And that's the difference. And there's no, there's still nothing really. There's some things out there. The real, the publishing world is trying to kind of still push away from this because they think it's gonna hurt them. And then you have all these people putting out really bad books. There's no like agency somewhere in the middle that's like, yeah, this is an independent book, but it's good. Yeah. And that's kind of where we're at right now. Okay. So word of mouth is my best thing. Yeah. And that's, you know, like with anything though. Right. Of course. And that's, you know, when we ran into you the other night and we heard about what you were doing and my brother told me what you're doing, I just think, I think it's really cool and we want to support, you know, what you're doing as well. And so we're going to, I'm going to post the link for you guys below so that you can jump on if you want to get Casey's book. Well, before we, well, we want to know like the name, like that's the final link. Yeah. I thought you were like cutting off. No, no, no, I want to get how they get it, what it's called, what it's about, all that. The first book is called The Shadow of the Gauntlet. Okay. That sounds intense. I like it already. And just as like, I just bought it on there. Yeah. I just bought it over here tomorrow. Yeah. The first one's The Shadow of the Gauntlet and it's basically about Thomas Gargan. He's like a 17 year old slacker, which I think a lot of us can identify with. And it's set in the future. I never say when, because I don't want to ever be like Star Trek where it's like, it's supposed to be tomorrow. I want to put it out there. And like, so he's about to graduate from high school and he has his premonition of his father disappearing. And before he can really wrap his head around it, kind of gets whisked away into his world of magic. Basically, it's like a coming of age story of this kid realizing that he belongs in this world of magic. He's never belonged in high school or anything like that. He never fit in, but in this world of magic, he belongs. Okay. That's like the general synopsis. That's available everywhere. Amazon now, iBooks. Oh, really? Yeah, you can get that anywhere. Okay. It's The Shadow of the Gauntlet. The Shadow of the Gauntlet. The second one is called The Dragon Within. So that right now is only available through Kickstarter. Okay. And then you can do that. The easiest way is gargonrobotics.com. I did like one of my websites, just the kick to the Kickstarter. Okay. And the other website is gargon.com is the main website. Yeah, we'll put the, I have the link to your Kickstarter. My brother sent it to me. All right, cool. So I'm gonna post that link in the description and then we'll also post a link. Where would you prefer people by? Cause I know that it could be on Amazon. It could be wherever. Honestly, I don't care. You don't care. No, just buy it. Just buy it. All right. No, quite frankly, there's ways I make more money or whatever, but like to me, it's honest. And this might sound really like not, but like it's me, it's just about people reading the book. Okay. And on like at the first stage, especially the first book, it's almost like just read the first one. Right. And I stand behind it. There's sample chapters you can read online. Okay. You don't have to commit right away. And I always say, if you read the first chapter and you were into this sort of thing, you're gonna buy the book. Okay. Awesome. Now, is it on like iTunes, like Bookshelf or what with? Yeah. iBooks, Amazon and Nook right now. I haven't on Google Bookshelf, but that'll be shortly the first one. Okay. Is your iBook work? Yeah. Can we talk to his iBook people about our app? Our app. Yeah. That's separate. They are separate. So like, no, it's, I think it's the same kind of review board. It's tough. It takes for them to approve it. Yeah. Which is fine. That means someone probably literally wrote the book, read the book to make sure like, if I said it's a young adult novel. Right. Make sure it's a young adult novel. They don't want to be like, you're something like quasi porn. You know what I mean? Like 12 year old should be reading this. Right. So that's good. Yeah. Amazon doesn't do that. Like there's like whatever. There you go. Your dad's got one click by. Sure. Here you go little Beck. All right, cool. Was there anything else? Is there a way that they can follow anything that you're doing? Are you on? I'm on everything. You're on everything? Under what? Instagram is Garden Robotics, at Garden Robotics, Twitter at my full name. Okay. Long and Italian. Casey Crotchlow. Okay. You can find all this though. Crotch what? Scargin.com. Yeah, I know, my whole life. I'm just kidding. I get it too. I'm married. My wife's name is Carbone. So it doesn't get any better for her. Nice. So you are, all right. So we'll post all that stuff. Facebook is also easy. It's backslash Thomas Scargin who's like the main character. Okay. But everything is available. Scargin.com we have all the links to everything. Okay. So I'll post all those links below and then hopefully that'll help you out. Yeah, hopefully. Yeah, good luck. This was pretty cool. Yeah. If not, you're on a hairdresser radio show. Yeah, but I think in relation to business, yeah, like the business aspect of it of doing your own thing and getting it out there and the entrepreneurship and like every other hairdresser doing, I think it relates. Yeah. Well, I mean, honestly, it's hard to do that. You put a lot on the line, like everyone does. Yeah. It's the same. Yeah. You're feeling, you're doing your own thing. You're trying to make other people follow you. And you're putting your stuff out there for everyone to judge and to, you know. And in this day and age, it's easier to get people to follow you and also way harder to get people to like actually follow you. Actually follow you. Yeah. Yeah. Clicks don't necessarily mean anything. Nope. Nope, that's the truth. Yeah, Matt has like a really, like a large following of really hot girls that follow him, but he doesn't really know them. I don't know any of them. I only know one. Yeah, where did that come from? I only know one hot girl. All right. When did this become therapy? I don't know. I just like to, I think the viewers like it. They do. They like Christina's sassiness. I like that Christina's waving her around her backscratcher. I know I've been. All right. Her Mickey ball like backscratcher. And Christina, how does that make you feel? It's awesome. So. I'm like, where's the other half of her clothes, Matt? Who is this girl? I don't even know. And Matt, how does that make you feel? Little smiley hard eyes. I have no feelings. Okay, Justin, how does that make you feel? Okay. All right, let's move on. Justin loves it. All right, so let's see if you want to hang out. It's totally cool. And drink more champagne and throw your two cents in. It's awesome. So let's get Brian. We're going to do trending tresses. So let's fire that up. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. I know you just got off of work, so. Actually, wait, who requested the man bun last week? I don't know. I forget. It doesn't matter. All right, try them. Try them. I'm the ball and one on celebrity hair changes. Who requested it? Here's trending tresses with Drea Bolland. Drea Bolland. Drea Bolland, here I am. All right, Drea, what do we got here? Lots of man buns. No man buns, no man buns. We have Dakota Johnson has chopped off her hair. And so she has a nice little short textured bob happening. And I dig it. I think it's fun. Yeah, it's cool. I think it's cool, just not on her. Why? Really? I think it's a cool haircut. No, I think the haircuts find the sunglasses with it. Maybe that's a start off. It's sending me somewhere. I don't know where. It kind of reminds me of like a Beatles-esque look. I was going to say like John Lennon and Lady Gaga had a baby. Yeah, she's taking those sunglasses. They're in a lot of photos. LSD meets pop culture. There you go. LSD is pop culture. All right. All right, the next we have Hilary Duff has gone from her mermaid greens and teals to nice lavender, silver, and purple. So I thought that was fun. It's just a really good picture. Jeez, they do that in one day? Probably not. Not, Joey. No, not at all. Not at all. Joey's like, I took your fluorescent yellow out of your head. I had three weeks. Actually, it only took like two days for you to do that. And then you put the purple on. Mermaid hair is a lifestyle, Christina. It's not just about a day. I know. All right. All right, so I know all about it. So that was for Coachella. Did you do the lip challenge? No, she's not doing the lip challenge. Because she probably just had her lips injected, like normal people. You know who I saw? Like normal people. Normal people don't get their lips injected. The priorities in your life are so effed up. I want my lips. I mean, I just use bumblebees. Hang on, so we had that. So I saw Brock out of control. I saw Brock on Instagram. He posted a picture. He's at Coachella. I saw that, too. And he's braiding hair. Justin, you need to get there. I will get so s***. What band? I was learning a fishtail. I was learning a fishtail. The next thing I know is cardio. All right, all right. What else, Traia? No, what I was going to say is what I do like about this is that they did get. Can we just get that reaction right now? He's almost crying. I don't think we can really see that. I can't see him on the camera. It's either get the pong table on here or get that. Or get that. I can't get both. The pong table is way more important than that. The pong table is way cooler than I am. Sorry, guys. All right, let's get to the point. All right, so. We now do a mess priorities. What I like about Hilary Duff's hair is I do love the fact that she was so teal and so green. And that's not an easy color to pull out of the hair. No, not at all. I'm guessing there's some extension in there, though. Because that green is not as long as that purple. I'm guessing the same thing. I think that's probably correct. But you know, I think it's nice. That's a nice Ashley color. I think it's a wig. It could be too. It could be a wig. We don't know. The Kardashian special. That's not even Hilary Duff. That's a drag queen. Those are not her lips. She bought those at Walmart. What the hell? All righty. Stop it. So I love Lily Allen. She does not take flattering pictures of herself. She doesn't. I follow her too. She doesn't. But she's super cute. She is. That she might be the perfect one for you to date. You can take bad pictures of her. Apparently they don't like my pictures. You can take your own damn pictures from now on. All right. Can we refocus for a moment? Yeah, right. Matt, take your own pictures. It's true. I know. Next week, we're just going to have one microphone that we pass around. And that's it. We'll never get it away from you. Your mom's going to hate this episode. I know. I can see the text now. No, she's not because I spoke a lot and she likes when I talk. I love your mom. So Lily Allen has watermelon hair. So back to me. It is my segment. Yeah, it's true. This is about me right now. She has, I love the lime green roots going into the nice pastel pink color. It's fun. I don't like it. I love the hair separately. I just don't like this collaboration. Stop. That's fine. I'm not looking at her face. I'm looking at her hair. I think it's cool because I think it's... I like the technique. I like what went into it. She found a good way to get that fade and it's the exact same way that a watermelon is. There's that little bit of white in between the green rind into the pink. I like the fade and the color. I don't like the color choices of what they did. Okay. So online right now on YouTube, I'm not digging it. We have not a fan. We have drag queens look better and then we have that pink is gorgeous. Well, the pink is gorgeous and I like the green. Justin, don't you agree? I kind of like how they... Thank you. But I don't like the colors. I think if it may be a tint darker or the green, it would look a lot better. Yeah. But it looks like they color ahead and wear the highlight. Yeah, I honestly don't. With some makeup and like... I like it. I was going to say it's not bad at all. It's a kick-ass sherbet. Yeah. It's pretty. Yeah, but she's missing like the orange and the lemon sherbet in there. Like she's just... It's just not... It's not rainbow sherbet. It's like green and pink. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a highlighter taking her head. All right. Cool. All right. So Ryan Gosling... They just agreed. Hold on. But wait a second. High five again. We just agreed though. Yeah, let's see that. Justin and I usually agree. We actually... Dre and Brian don't. Sorry. Go. Freak. Brian and I debate on a very fun level. We shouldn't leave that alone. All right. Brian Gosling has... It looks like he has a perm as well as he's gone really dark. He looks like Brian a little bit. When you have earlier pictures, I wish I had them, of you on your Facebook and stuff. They have the same head shape. Like your curly... That's cute. Yeah. Like a long head and curly brown hair. Yeah. Cute. Brian. Brian. Girls and guys alike love Brian Gosling. I know. Love Brian Gosling. Sitting this far away. Girls and guys like love Brian hair too. Sitting this far away from her because she's not looking at it. She can see your face. I can see your face so... Because that's all in painting. It looks like she's not talking to you, but she's staring right at you. It looks like what's the name from Boy Meets World. Corey? Yeah. It looks like Corey Matthews all grown up and slender. When I look at the picture, I keep thinking it looks like Ryan Reynolds. It does remind me of Ryan Reynolds. Yeah. That's who I thought it was too. Oh, I thought it was too. Are we talking about... No, I'm just kidding. But this is for a movie role, so it probably won't stay long, but I thought it was interesting. You have never seen him with anything but his natural hair color. Yeah. So it's fun. All right. Moving on. Moving on. Oh, yes. Oh, my gosh. Matt's in love with me. I know. Justin from Indiana, Texas to me on Monday. I was sitting in a lobby. Oh, you from Indiana? I was sitting... I was like, who's Justin from Indiana? That's a fake braid, right? Yeah. It's definitely an extension that's been added in there, because he has been... Justin, did you do that braid? Oh, my God. He has been wearing this terrible haircut for quite some time now. But the braid has been added in. Shalala braid. Sorry. Brian's head is going crazy right now. But... He's hearing 95 voices at the same time. Okay. Brian, look at me. From now on, you have to hold the... Hey, wait, wait, wait. Can I have my buzzer back? Yes. From now on, hang on. From now on, when you want to speak, you have to hold the back scratcher. But I have a ton of them, so we can all hold the back scratcher. I've actually thrown a lot of them away. Back scratcher? All right. What else do we have, Dre? After Shalala buff, that's it. We're done. We're done. All right, cool. I love them all. Thank you. I picked that one out for you. Sweet. Thank you. All right, cool. So, last thing before we do the free pong is this. And now, now, air industry news from Justin Scott. I still want papers. There you go, Brian. You can print it out. You can actually just grab some papers out of the printer and just read off your computer. Okay. Well, this is my segment, so can we all shut up? Okay, let's just do it. Let's just do it. Okay. We got some news. First things first, just a reminder to all the people out there who would like to join. And this is still looking for platform artists. Okay. They're having their contest. It ends May 1st at 11.59 p.m. You must send in your videos. They're going to pick three finalists. They're going to send them to Orlando for the May 30th to June 1st Orlando International Beauty Show. You'll be up on stage on the 30th, I believe, or the 31st. The 31st will be up on stage and they'll be picking you as a winner, possibly. It'll be cool if one of the FSE watchers did that. That's a cool opportunity, to be honest. I mean, it's never been before that you've just submitted a video and you have a chance to be up on stage somewhere at a hair show. It's pretty cool. So if you guys want to do that and you're great at men's cutting, go to andis. You can submit your video. And yeah, you're going to have the chance to work more shows and educate through Andis. So it's really cool. And yeah, whoever's doing it, good luck. Maybe I'll give it a shot. Cool. What the hell did I sign up for? That was a title of an email I got. When I signed up, we talked about it maybe a couple weeks ago. Tabitha site. Tabitha site. It's kind of, she sent an email educating everybody on what is going to be happening. The title of it was pretty cool. What the hell did I sign up for? Sounds like it's something I would send out there. She's telling everybody that the majority of the site will be made up of hair and makeup, how-to's. Kind of pretty much stuff that we do. Yeah. But just done through different people, which I love because I could teach something and you could teach the same thing that Brian and everybody else here could and will all have something else from people to take out of it. Yeah. And that's what I'm really excited for there to be another group of people doing this too. But yeah. Yeah. It's going to be industryonline.com. So it's industry with an IE instead of a Y, online.com. It's Tabitha's new venture. She's going to be basically showcasing companies like Freeslawn Education. But also the cool thing I like about what she says, what they say they're going to be doing is, she wants everybody to be very versatile in the industry. She says real things like not every guest is going to be 8 feet tall, weighing 90 pounds with virgin hair. So she's going to do pretty much what you started doing, showing how to handle the guests who come in with the everyday hair that you see. Right. Not every guy you see on a clipper cut, like Walls, Instagram, it's just a guy pulling him in for a reason of his hair that they pick. There's just some random chick coming in with box color and whatever in her hair. They're trying to be really good about that. Cool. She sent another email too. She uses quizzes from social media as an example. The second email said not to... What's the word? She's trying to send out quizzes through emails to figure out what type of line she's going to be educating with and what questionnaires to kind of educate people on how to raise prices. Next big thing she's going to do. Okay. That's a big question I hear you get all the time. Like how to raise prices, when to raise prices. Right. She's going to do something on that pretty soon. So yeah, that's pretty cool from Tabitha. Sweet. Next we have men's traditional, or men's trends for the new year for hair cutting. Eurose Mikik, Mikeik, I have no idea how to pronounce that. That's okay. He's not watching. Yeah, right. He's a creator director of Kinky Curly Straight Hair. Also works for Matrix Australia. Says that this year the styles are going to go completely different than what they've been. Recently we've seen them being nice and tight and traditional. We're going to see a few more trends they're saying. One's going to be a lot more guys length into hairstyles now. Playing with different textures. And I think we see that more now. Like around here. Yeah. People kind of shrieking away from that high in tights like back or the pomp or the comb over. A lot more length coming into it. I always think like surfer hair and hair stuff like that. Yeah. Which I totally support. Colors. They're going to go back to a matte palette. Like ashes and green tones, cool shades. So more guys are apparently going into getting out of just, you know, throw like a 5N on me. They want to kind of have some depth to their hair. Which will be fun. Yeah. You know. Which builds in other opportunities for, you know, upgrades, menu changes, different things that you can do within the salon to cater to the guys wanting more dimension or more different things in their hair. So that's cool. And the last trend they say is more of like a street wise, like urban feel. I feel like that's just going to mix a lot of stuff together. That's the only thing I got out of it. There wasn't really a photo of it. But where you have like different textures and all kinds of things kind of being used differently than we've ever seen before. Which I'm excited to see how that's going to play out. What else? I have all kinds of news. A happy thing I found out. It's called the 6th of May foundation. Did you read through that a little? I don't know if I read that one. Let's see here. Emanuella Mascallo is the eldest daughter of late gay Mascallo. Guy Mascallo, sorry. Running the 6th of May foundation and Tony and Guy, right? Yeah. Also brands of Tony and Guy and Tigi. How do you say, is it Tigi? Tigi. So she just took over and the May, they're going to launch a line of wearable energies which is jewelry made from healing crystals. Yay. Right? But the cool thing and what I'm saying is. Can't wait to get some healing crystals on my neck so I feel better. In my hair. The only reason I'm putting this up is because the foundation is donating 100% of the net profits to benefit children's charities. I hope so. I hope so. That's the only reason I'm talking about it. Then I buy one. Yeah. So it's helping to provide shelters, food, clothing, metal care, pretty much anything for kids who are like substance abuse, emotional trauma. Well that's awesome. You know, like homelessness, stuff like that. So that's really cool. Okay. What else? The new chi, one and a quarter iron. Yeah, we got an image of this. Yup. Let's pick that up. Christina. Fantastic. It's the Dura Chi. I know. She's coming out with this new styling iron. And I've been looking around their tools and following tools for the past like year or so now and they've kind of focused everything for salons into like one solid line of like matte red and matte black. I thought there's two. Got it. You know, I just, I actually even think of that. Good call. But I feel like this, it looks like it could be pretty rad. It looks like it has a touch, a touch pad on the handle. So I don't know how well that's going to work out when you're using it at your hands. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I thought the touch screen was on like the inside. It looks like from the photo that the touch screen's on the top, not on the inside. Well, we'll have to get one. It doesn't matter where it is. My finger always finds the button, like the palmatule dryer. Oh yeah. That turns lower, you know, and the heat higher. Yeah, I did that this morning. I didn't see a lot of information on it. I want to know what the highest temperature is if it's good to be doing like smoothing treatment and stuff like that. Yeah, we'll have to check it out. She usually goes to like 800 degrees. She only goes to high. No, but even looking for that temperature. I know it's high. It looks like the G plate is still the old school ceramic, isn't it? Yeah, it does look like it. It didn't look like it was anything doing there. Because you can't do any of the smoothing treatments. Well, we'll have to get one same. Do you need the titanium metal and all that because it's less porous? Supposedly, yeah, in some of the other treatments, because I know like the super silk, I'm pretty sure... Are these ceramic? I'm not sure, actually. I got to look that up, but I think they are. Yeah, they look it. But that's a whole different treatment. That's like keratin. It's not really... It's not the whole formaldehyde thing, so I don't know. And we have one more. The last one, everybody who is listening, go online and look up the hashtag Kylie Jenner Lip Challenge if you haven't already. Brian said he wanted fuller lips. I do. Please do not look this up, or do we... Please, everyone look this up and show your friends and family. I can't even believe we're talking about this. We're sanctioning this as something on the show. Yeah, we're not talking about it. We're talking about not doing it. Does this work better than using bumblebees? No, that. Keep using bumblebees. They look adorable. Apparently, Kylie Jenner says she spends 40 minutes a day plumping her lips up. And that's just what she says she does. There's a pump for it. You put it on your face. Well, people are going and using shot glasses and using suction to suction their lips out. And they're not leaving it on for a short period of time. So they're giving themselves hickeys on their face. It's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. Or their lips are becoming so clumped it looks like they got stung by a horde of killer bees. They're bruised. Broken blood capillaries, bruises. One kid cut the hell out of his face because the thing shattered. He sucked on it so hard. Yeah, it's... I really think we should just let nature take its course. And when... We are too. When we take the warning labels off everything, which Thad and I think we should do in the world, the problem will solve itself. It'll take its course and the sort of people will be... Wait, Casey works at a bar. He knows it stinks about this? Has this happened at your bar yet? Has somebody done a shot and then did this? No, but I'm totally down with survival of the fittest. Right? Thank you. If you're dumb enough to do that, I hope you're... You're welcome for your third book story right here. The Lip Challenge. Kylie has come out since the lip challenge and said that she does not use a shot glass. No, she's not pumped. That costs $70,000. No, no, no, no, no. She doesn't use a pump. She pinches and pokes at her lips for 40 minutes a day. The picture stinks. Because you have nothing to do. Yeah, exactly. She's 17 and makes... I would just like to say, yeah, but you know, there's something wrong with young girls or guys thinking that they need to do anything to their lips. I understand some women get older and their lips are thinner and they want to do whatever you want to do. But this is just crazy. Yeah. You know, young people look great. They look fine. There's no lines. There's nothing. There's no reason to enhance or change anything. No, but they're silly because they see this retard on TV. Don't say that. Don't say that. Okay, I'm sorry. I take that back. This waist of air who is doing nothing for Dr. Versaity and they look up to her and she will her lips look like that. So I will mine look like that because she has a million Instagram followers. I want a million Instagram followers. That's all that matters in the world. And that's that. That's all you have to do to do Instagram followers? Yes, that. Well, everyone here excluding myself and I don't know, maybe somebody else. Oh, never mind. I'm not going to get into it. Let's just... Never mind. I'm not sure what you were going to say about the followers and how we promote things. And you know, we do put that pressure. The whole world has that pressure. That's a whole other story. Just young people don't put chock glasses. I have a child, so I guess my... But you have a smart child. You'll be fine. No, I thought I was smart too and I did stupid things growing up. You know, like... You can only be there for your kids for so many things and this whole liking thing and this whole popularity thing on social media has become such an important thing. Oh, yeah, totally. That's what track I'm going to get on to that there's not even enough time. Yeah. Yeah, so... Next, to be continued. I would also say though, there's a whole different subculture where you like things that aren't that. You know what I mean? It's both ways. No, it is. But the world has become so to be popular. The likes matter. I agree with that. And I don't agree with that world. Well, I mean the Kardashians. All that stuff is basically like let's just look almost ridiculous. And that world exists in a lot of young people that aren't experienced or wise enough that we might be now and that's what they deal with even more so than we did. And it's kind of sad. I just feel nobody has common sense. I feel nobody has common sense anymore. I'm not going to put a shot glass in my face and hope for the best. Just like I wasn't going to put a firecracker in my hand and close it and hope for the best. But we've... My friends did. You know, we did put firecrack. I just think people need to actually love themselves is what it comes down to. Of course. And like trying to emulate someone else. Regardless of like... They do but the outlets of... Regardless of that. Like you need to just like what you are and that's hard for anyone to do. Of course. And I feel like just getting harder and harder. I agree. But because everything is in your face through every... every aspect of your world you can see it and hear it. I think it's just become harder. So Justin... But we're also in the industry of giving people what they don't naturally love about themselves. So I don't really want to go... Let's get some shot glasses. I don't think that's actually true though. No. It's not the same thing. Same thing. Like if someone wants to reinvent themselves and be different that's different. I mean like someone that's going to physically change their face. Yeah. Surgery and hair color are two totally different things. But from a sucked shot glass like that's the level we're going to... I agree. I agree. What you guys are all trying to say is make sure you have really strong shot glasses and use the timer. Come on now. I just say... I'm just kidding. My recommendation is we don't recommend at home box color. Don't try and plump it. Kylie, why don't you just tell us that you pinched and poked at your lips? That's all I'm saying. No at home box color. No at home plastic surgery. Right. Duh. Okay. So let's get into the... Too soon. The whole... Let's get into the free punk. Free punk. Let's get into the whole... Well worded. All right. Let's go with free punk. So what we're going to do is if you guys call 844-FSE-LIVE we'll bring you on live. You can spin the wheel. You'll pick somebody to throw the ball. So I want to put that out there. So 844-FSE-LIVE call now. We do have a guest star here who works at a bar guys. We do. So he might be good at this as well. So we... Really cool prizes on the wheel. So if you want, give us a call. Otherwise we'll call somebody that sent us the email. So I'm going to give that a couple of minutes because there's a delay on YouTube and then we'll go from there. Thad, do you want to get the wheel set off? Yep. And then we can see. I need a nap. I know. For the record, I'm pretty good at it. No. It was not wrong. Okay. So Casey's pretty good at beer. Okay. We have a caller. Yo. Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello? Who's this? This is Wisconsin Donna. What? Wisconsin Donna? How are you? Yes. Okay. We have to talk to you. Chris, can you again? Hold on. I'm not picking Matt. Wait. Wisconsin Donna gave Matt to tell Casey a nickname called Old One Ball because he only got One Ball. Yeah. She was rough on me. He's OOB. He's the Lance Armstrong of Beer Palm. Yeah, yeah. She labeled him a Lance Armstrong of baseball. Wait. I have to say though, Wisconsin Donna has been a follower of ours for a long time. And I'm so happy. Always. So happy that she is on the phone. Are you really in Wisconsin? Unfortunately, I'm not. I'm in Rhode Island. Oh, you are? I'd love to be back in Wisconsin. Are you a that 70s show fan? Wait. So you're close. You're not that far from us. It's like six hours, right? It's not that bad. Right there. Yeah. Right there. I mean, it's on the east. Nice. Right. Okay. So we have, you know the prizes. We have Sunlight's Baleage. We have, yeah, Sunlight's Baleage. We have the Wholesale food. What else do we have? Minerva. Then every year. Millennium. Mizzatani sheers. Mizzatani scissors. $100 off those. We have T shirts. Bollybots. Boys Park. All the goodies. So let's Wisconsin Donna, who do you want to throw the ball? Um, well, I was gonna pick bad, but I felt really bad about the one ball thing. So I'm mad. Good math. Oh no. No, no, no, no. I want to give you another chance another three years. This is not a good idea. Tosh point. Man, this is this is like Tosh point those redemption. You have a web redemption on your own web show. It is a cacophony in here right now. I am going insane. Brian only could pay attention when he's talking. I know. When other people talk and the voices in his head talk, it's just it goes crazy. Okay, I'm on day two of quitting smoking. I might just have to murder something. Okay, here we go. I'm going to do this. I have faith in you, Matt. Come on, Matt. Matt web redemption. Do Tosh are proud. Come on. He's so stressed out. Wait, hold on. He's sweating bullets right now. Ready, Christina, you got to get the table camera. All right, calm down. I'm calm. Matt, calm down. It's all right. So, Wisconsin. Donna, where did you get your name? I'm betting this. That's every show. No, one ball. No, go. All right. Come on, Matt. Oh, Wisconsin. Donna, I'm sorry. Wisconsin Donna. Now he's no balls. No, we are for Wisconsin. She can pick one more person. This is not happening. Why don't we just spin for her? All right. Yeah, pick somebody else, Wisconsin. She's been following us for a long time. Let's do one more. Pick the author. Pick the author. Let's like Casey throw for you. Yeah, Casey, come on. She's still there. Casey, Donna, you there? Hello? She's like, he didn't make any. Bam, she's left. Donna, let's see if she can call back. I don't know what happened. Let's see if we have caller ID incoming call. We tried that last time and it didn't work, remember? Hello? Hello? Donna? Yes. Okay. Sorry, we lost you. Okay. So I didn't make anything, but you're in luck. Cause we have a, I know, I know it's embarrassing and I'm going to not. It was too much pressure on you. I know I'm not going to sleep tonight, but we have a special old no balls. We have a special guest, Casey, who's a bartender and he's got more balls for you. So let's see, let's see how he does. Oh my gosh. They're all saying no ball, Matt. Now on the thing, these kids, they're just so mean. It's just, it's just one, Matt. This is worst case scenario. All right, you've got a son. All right. Let's get, let's get the camera over to Casey. Okay. Here he goes. They're just so, they're so mean. All right. The first ball is about to go. Yeah. Let's go. Oh, that was close. Come on. You have a lot to live up to. All right. All right. There's one. We got one. Should we spin it? All right. Let's spin it. So now she gets a prize, Casey. Probably something awesome. Oh, geez. What is it? Amika. Amika. All right. So you get a five piece Amika iron set. No, that's not what it's up. Oh, Minerva beauty. It's on Minerva. We lied to you. You get Minerva beauty. Which one do you want? Do you want Minerva or do you want Minerva beauty or do you want Amika? Because that's on Minerva. I'll take Amika. All right. We'll do Amika because that said Amika. So, all right. So we'll just. It's paying for the Amika. You're welcome. Amika. Amika will be very happy. So, all right. So she's got a five piece iron set. One more ball to go here. Yep. She gets all multiple prizes if you make this. Oh, all right. So he made the one ball author. So he made one. Wisconsin Donna, congratulations. Thank you so much. Thank you. I love you guys and I've seen every single episode and I'm just happy to have other hair nerds out there. Oh, we love you. We really appreciate it. Thank you for calling in and we will talk to you soon. All right. Thank you so much. All right. Make sure you email me your information. Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thanks Donna. Bye. Love you guys. Love you. So I'm the only person in one so far. Yeah. That's pretty awesome. I even get called. Yeah, they're like he's straight edge. He's don't pick him. Did I? So you Brian, I got to. Yeah, Dreya and I aren't straight edge and we didn't get called either. Oh, we're probably because we're girls. It's probably why the. All right, this phone. I'm telling you, it makes all kinds of weird stuff. All right. So let's sum up the night. So we did a lot. How I know I just want to blow a raspberry into the microphone. The phone does that. I don't know why. So all right. So we have I want to say thank you to Casey for coming in and hanging out with us. So make sure that you go check out his Kickstarter. Thank you guys order his first book. Those links are below. So I hope you guys got a lot out of that interview. I think it was really cool and Christina has like mad interview skills. So I was excited for that as well. We have my questions were good. Is that what you're trying to say? Your questions were great. I thought yeah, so we have FSE live next week again at 10 a.m. We're looking for suggestions on what you want that class to be about. So if you guys want to post those anywhere on our social media or in the comments below on this video, that would be great. We also have you can follow Brian on Instagram, Twitter. Everything is hairstyle. We have Dray Day. Dray Day 2289. We have underscore at or at underscore a steamy steamy staining and at Thad Bolanized. We have at I am Justin Scott. We have Casey. Are you on Instagram Casey? Yeah. I'm Scarlet robotics. All right. And we have Brian's birthday. Happy birthday. We forgot. No, we did it. Wait, you got to bring the cake more. Yeah, I can see it. I'm so excited about this cake. Is it? That's hilarious. Oh, you're talking as if you I got to grab. Oh, look at little hating cakes on it. Love it. That's so funny. And it's my color. Of course. It's too fuzzy though. It's not focused. Yeah, you have to bring it back further. The other one was fine. That's been it in front of them. Oh, there's Christopher. So a little tidbit on this cake. I told Alisa that I wanted. All right, hold on. Wait, there are 19 people speaking and none of your near microphones be quiet. Dray is talking. Thank you. So I wanted a cake with your face on it. And she goes, where will I ever find a picture of Brian's face? Almost a hundred percent sure. This is the first time Brian's ever said, hey, everybody be quiet. Dray is talking. And the last because it's about me. And so we decided that a selfie cake was in order for that's goddamn hilarious hashtags on that. And wait, so me and Christina ordered you your very own selfie stick. Well, Brian and now it is officially over. Yeah, until next year. Brian likes to celebrate the reason why we say that it's because Brian likes to have a birthday season. Christopher said to me, oh, he has a birthday season. He was thinking like you had other friends and family birthday in that time frame. And when he heard it was just because of your birthday, he was like, no, you get like one day, maybe a weekend. Well, I definitely got enough this year. This can close out the closing ceremonies like the Olympics. Oh, we don't care. Happy birthday to you. Thank you guys. That's a sweet cake. That's such a good job. She never disappoints. So all right. So again, we got Brian. We got Draya. We got Justin. We've given out the tags. We've given out a lot. This this book to read this summer. Yeah, a shirt off for a birthday cake. So all right. So thank you guys so much for watching. Happy birthday to Brian and thank you for hanging out with us and getting through this episode. I think it was a lot of fun to be honest. And I hope you survived it. Yeah. So make sure that you follow us and and support the companies that support us. Millennium, Minerva, Demand Force, Bracato, Mizutani, all those great companies. So we will see you guys next week on episode 79. Thanks. Live every Wednesday night at 7 30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time or as close as we can get it.