 What's up? Good people and welcome back to SPM Basa Uttitivian Baini Experience. We are right here at the 10 years of hard demand 2 kuna 2 milimu nye karibu sana. Asanti sana. Congratulations Shiku Gitao. Welcome to SPM Basa. Thank you sir. Iro minimutwa SPM badawe. Yeah, I mean SPM is in my blood. If you cut my blood like this, SPM oozes out. All right. Maybe you need to tell me a little bit about maybe how the band Konzaka Bisa, Mli Paternalini and Mli John Alini, and your clothes. Yeah, how the band by they, the funny thing is we used to act with the band at the Kenya National Theatre back in like over 10 years ago. Congratulations to them. They are celebrating 10 years in the music industry but they have been in the industry for more than 10 years. We used to hang around with them at the National Theatre. When National Theatre was National Theatre, before National Theatre kwenakaburus, when we used to cook at the National Theatre, yes, over 10 years ago. So I've seen them grow, I've seen them come together, I've seen them try doing music until when Ulisakiatu gave them the publicity. But before Piawalu kwenafanya mamboeao. So I'm so happy for the brothers Skoko Juma, Skoko Modikai, Nani Kenches Muiya. Congratulations and tomorrow 10 together. Right now, I think they are the only group that are active, they are not even just active but together. We have Kelle Letakatifu no longer Holi, Wasewengi, BMF, Emoji, Ming, so how the band is still together. Maybe what's your favorite song of how the band and why? Ulisakiatu always because it explains our sometimes, like right now whatever is going on with my story, people just come and I used to walk from my hostel at the UN to carnival, walking, walking, imagine kutembe ya unaf kapale kwa gate una panguza via tuzako. No, no, nazito avum because Pia, you don't want to go to the in front of the panel, the auditioning panel with dust, you get my point. So via tundu wanga e na jua story ako, ezi vitu zingine, zi jwame kuja kuimba nima love songs, and love songs, we only sing the same thing. Ni wadz tundu unaplanazo vi different and the beats and the musicians are different. Batu kiangali eile ngo ma Ulisakiatu, wuna, it has a story for every hustler, you know. Ha re nafa kuwa nasyonuande niya Kenya, nasyonuande misi juhina semagani ni, but I have respect for 254, but again Ulisakiatu explains every Kenyan's hustle, you know, ya. And maybe what is that one thing about wuna jua kwa kwa had the band that you think maybe other artists should emulate from them? One thing these guys, wana kwa mejiagri, this guy knows story, ya nuna juana, they came from nowhere, you know. See, South Seoul met in school, if I'm not wrong, Apahil. These guys they met in Uko Gato, Uko Nona, story on it of Kayole, Uko Yvindan, you know. They used to walk to the National Theatre to come and try acting, you know, wana piga acting, tu luka wana piga acting now. So the thing that Imoeka together me think is they know, they always remember each other's background. You know, when you remember each other's background, your future, ninyu wote muna kwa na future, muna mind each other's future. Like wuna jutu jama familiaria wama toka samuia, and you want their family to be samuia, you know. So uta mind each other, you will work together, you will work together ni ni. Atakumuki ona weakness ya moja, you will try and encourage them through their weakness mu jengane. You don't bash each other with each other's ninyu weakness, you know. So I think that's one of the reasons why, one of the facts that Imoeka pama moja has had the band, ya. Maybe mentioning watu kubashian and things like that, of course you have been, and maybe Tumbele, talking of bashing, of course you have been making headlines the last couple of days. So first of all, kuna hizi allegations about the number plate. Aunga isema na kiswa hili dwe kai sirias, ni na pasua vichu aviyabari, ya. No hio. You know, one thing, I've done a couple of celebrity shows, and at no point have ever went and said that I paid for my plates. Then number two, they are not fake plates, they are model plates. Fake plates, nekama vilegari anguni KBS, the R20W, I go and make like those ones, enyeme di kia zenyazina, kodia NTSA, those are fake plates, but the other ones they intuna tumia ni model plates. No na. So model plates atama maya kai hazu tumia, wasa ni weingo mezu tumia kwenye videos aw. At no point have ever went and said that, ati guys, I've paid a million for these plates, nowhere. I've never gone anywhere ni kase matia, ati mimi, nime nini, nime lipiaizi plates. They are model plates, amna polisi yata mojasha ni shikar, ati ni kuna fake plates, wana ni shikaga garia ina plates. Ya, why? Because I don't use them on the Kenyan roads. I just use them to shoot videos angu, kupiga picha, because my car looks better with those model plates, nani zangu pia. Then watu na piga, ya pia pato kipiwa plates orijinu, waluu teka wapi. Wateka wapi plates orijinu. Do they have cars that kwekezu plates orijinu? And you know, plate emboe yume weza kuleta ishusana ni hi ya tabok, 2-2, 2-2 bili. And watu piwa ulkona takaku juna, to hear from you, is it like, for lack of a better word, a legal plate? No, it's not. I've said it's a model plate. Okay. Model plate. Ni kama, ni kama, I don't know, it's like a model, ni model. Ya ni it's not real, but it can be used. You see, ni kama upewe, kenda kwa meza ya CEO mebi yata wa andegi, kampuni flani andegi utapata, ana kandegi flani pali, kana ito a model plane. Wezi yambi kwa ambi omusiat ya kwa nandegi fake. That's not a fake plane. It's a model plane, model plane. You get me? So, Ile ni yangu personal, for personal use. Onona. Isi kule tia shida bifu? Kwa sabu sige inge na kwenye barabara. Onona. Sii guna ni elewa. I've never used it on the Kenyan road course. It's illegal, ni kipati kana naio, but it's not illegal for me to use it on my videos. Ya, it's not illegal. Yes. Mili piwa tugependa kujiwa labda, yule amba ili eza kufanya Ile expose. Labda, do you feel kidoga li, let's privacy ako would say, kama wu neza toambia how it actually happened, ali eza kpata gari wapi tu liwa na piya li toanisha ili nama? First of all, you know, neza se ma ni mutu amba e, ali tu miya mutu amba na ni juwa. Kwa sabu nambu wan, wu, wu, wu, na ni yule mbo amtaza maji henge juwaji atya kwa mba kuna platiza kwangu zina toanisha wana kuna zingine nyuma, ali juwaji. Ali juwaji gari angu kupale. I must have used someone maybe close to me or something, you know. Kwa sabu mutu ni content creator kama mimi, I can't blame him. So you have not taken any action against him or even called? I have no time, I have no time. You know, me I value every second of my life. Why should I like niende nyandeku fwata na na umbo amtaza maji anans idea wapi? You know na, ali mi nyandeku wastei time atina fwata na nae. He's not even in my level. You know na, he's not in my level. I don't know how he lives, at least for him he knows how I live, he knows what I drive. I don't know what he drives. You know na, ni limfanya celebri na piki piki. You know na, there's a celebri of him kwenyesho ya kuwangu na piki piki. So dimutu mpae says him blame. I can't blame him. Yes. Na, then my, it's not fake life. It's not fake life. You can't tell me at kuzume pata ni metumia plate enye, see enyewe, unanda kukonkliu that he tumbili na fake life. You see. Kusum, I've said this over and over. If, if they say at yam faking life, then it means I'm rich kuz fake life is expensive. You know na, fake life is more expensive than real life. I'm going to come back to the issue of fake life, but now talking of the whole thing, are you going to use the plates still? Ya, ya, I even posted a photo today with the same clothes na iko pali. Ya, kwa ni, how powerful is he in his top kufanya fituzang? But they have, the only thing that has changed is people have gotten to know that these are plates, no gewza. But kila kitri na baki sambamba, kila kitri na baki sambamba, nida kwa na ndele na mtindohangu, na ndele na mtindohangu, wakawaida, una nileo, mtindohangu wakawaida una baki ure ure. No, kwa ni, ni nani ebu ebu ni amia trawale ma fans wake, everybodu was attacked me on all the blogs that have talked about it. What impact do they have in my life? No, tumili, because ulu kumefanya celebrate ya bike na ya ya, people actually now think that this whole thing was I don't know if it was planned, I wasn't part of the planning. Ya, maybe it was planned with other people, but I wasn't part of the planning. Na, show, you interview me at Kitambosana. Not everybody that I host on my show is my friend. You see, Sijugamon na nileo. Yes, not everybody that you host on this red carpet is your friend. Some of them you are getting to see them on the first time. Some of them you will never see them, you never come close to them. So, whatever Muamitazamaji did doesn't change my life in any way cause my life is, I can say, is incomparable with anybody's life. I have kids who go to a very good school. I pay rent, but I don't live in the house, you know. Like me in me pangatu life, I am going to live my life being an attacker. I can afford any life that I want. Neza, how I don't want to end up in a one bedroom. I'm not a one bedroom type. No na. Even my kids don't live in a one bedroom, no na. They don't live in a one bedroom and I pay it. I fuel my car daily. Do you know I fuel my car daily? Can you guess how much I use for my, to fuel my car? Please tell us. It's 3000, averagely 3000 daily cause I'm a content creator. I move, move, move, move killer modeling after content, you see. But, mimi wakita kani fake life, maybe nishimai shayao. That's the only way I can fake. Nishimai shayao, cause I can afford their life, they can't afford my life. Maybe talking of, apu kwa maybe paying rent and everything, you say that you can afford it. Labda Tumbili a few weeks ago, you made headlines, you saying that you are homeless, but you are not broke. Why did you go for the option of now being homeless, but you are not broke? Ya. You know people, just think at the, muntua kwa daona, muntua kwa depressed at yame sota. That's a very poor man's mentality, mentality. We have people, employed people commit suicide because of depression. Depression is not money. No na. Depression is an emotion. You can depress because, because the love of your life has broken you, you see. But you have lots of money. Okay. That's why I say, I'm homeless, but not broke. So you are depressed. I can afford a life. No, I wasn't depressed. I can afford a, okenda maali kama majuu, watu na ishikomagari zakwao? You see, people live, even Steve Harvey was living in his car. So why, mbona mimi muafrika tu, mwenzenu mimi niki jari buku ishima ishikwangutena muntaki. So it was something just optional? Ya, it's optional. It's optional. I've chosen a life. Mimi nilunueo bmdia blini ishindani. For driving, I have another car. Nona. I have a Subaru, I have a Lancer, nikona BMW. I bought that BMW, don't need to liya getundani. Nona. Add an option of niki ongeza, niki kamaogeji. But this is me, I don't do what people do, people do what I do. So this means to me, you're not planning on having a home? Your home is there? I'm already, I have a piece of land already bought and very soon maybe mid next year I'll be starting to construct a house for my kids. For my kids, not for me. So you won't be living there? Ya, maybe I just go and visit, have a chat with them nini. Mimi nime choose, like I promise myself when I hit 30, I'll leave the way I want. I do whatever I want and I will make sure you get to know what I do. Kama, whatever I'm doing, whatever I'm doing and you are interested in knowing, I'll let you know. Nona. Kama kunakitu nili sama siyesidu, niku danganya when I hit 30. That's why na kwa ga muku elimi, I just pick the truth. So my life, you and you wanna know if it's fake because ati niku juniko juyao, for them, they think I'm faking because I'm not supposed to be living the life I'm living, so to them I'm faking. But they don't know fake life is expensive than real life. So it means I'm rich. If I can afford this fake life, why when you have to exchange injana life after one hour or two? Why she might show me nishiao? Do you wanna know ata umia? Taking of maybe fake life, of course kuna video ambao liyeza pia kufanya, ikakwa a very controversial online, tell us a little bit. Which one? Ile apale kwenyendege? O kwenyendege yosu na jwa tu ni indegehe tu pale kitengela, nili enda kwa sabu watu na washasema mimi na ishi fake life, I wanna show them what fake life is. Nona. Siwa mini ambia na ishi fake life. So mimi na ta kwenyesha and it's a series in the form of fake lives matter. Nona. Fake lives matter. I only do 10 episodes only to show them what fake life is. That's just episode one. Which they have pulled down for thrice. Yes, that's what I was coming to, the fact that i mekwe kikwa pulled down. Do you think maybe it's because of the fact that it's, that title actually? No, no, no. It's not even about the title. It's about the point, the goal for attacking Tumbili living fake life, the goal was to see Tumbili go down. But today, today anini, today a shock. I've joined them in bringing Tumbili down, but Tumbili is not going down. Nona. Ni kama pukutukane, na ukubali yo matusi, seme a mi naeni umbuwa. Nona. So wa me sema na ishi fake life and I am, they thought at the end ani gifike, oh zi hini ni. No. As long as you don't make any sense in my life. Nona. You don't add anything in my life. If you don't, wu zi hini pidi asimu kama, eh, Tumbili umedishi. Nona. Na uni tumia pesa ni kule, you can't change me. Nona. Sasa na inata kufeki wa vizuri. Nona. Mi mi, wanase mati o, fake life atsisi, tu na wapia presya. Mi mi zi hini pidi amutusi, uni kwa ambia, check inifolo. Nisi hini kwa diemi, amutusi, ni kwa ambia, eh bro, nifolo. Uli nifolo, kwa zi something you want to see in me. Bona unifolo, wu zi pige presya na maisha yango. Bona unifolo, wu zi pige presya na maisha yango. The life I live, the life I afford is not for giving you pressure. Some, sometimes ni kuen courageum, sepa leinje. Mwambe bro, this is Tumbili, came from down there, is currently here. Mi I used to walk to Kanivo. Right now I can drive to Kanivo. Nona. Not just driving, niza ingeivi kwa packing lot yango, ni chagwen say na enda Kanivo, ni chukwe gani, ni enda na gani. You get. There people don't have that option. Nasi kupenda kwa, it's just a matter of time. They believe, but okamugagasubu nata kuatu, ona na utuwa isi maisha yango. No, because they can't believe it, I'm living this life. Wana say matrasi jai kanya, atina, atina, atina, atina fake storia ni ni. Storia US. Mi I didn't tell anybody I was going to the US. I wasn't in the US. Nona. I just posted my visa and my passport. You see. I just posted my visa and my passport with no caption. Mbuam taza magika toke ana se mati. Tumbiliya meda nani watu atia kwa US naga ria kendoi. Hii nini muna follow adi cheesy, mutu fala me ni anawambia at the agenda US just because you are seeing his car there. Oza is supposed to go to the US with my car. Kwa ni muna? Na muna minia fala. Asi wind up Tumbili do believe? Uki onaga ria kwa po. Nandani ni kwa po. Uni chunguli endani. That's just me naminsai there. It means maybe ni meia cha po, ni me endaraoni. Nona. Cause me most of the time atana chaga gariangu mahali nana randa randa town. Se so kipata gariangu pali. Ati oni excuse inafati si agenda America. Agenda America goes to nona gariakia apa. Asi wind up maybe Tumbili, the issue of this fake life thing and of course videos being pulled down. Do you think there is a group of people trying to attack you? There are group of people who are trying to be me, who are trying to to bring me down to the level. Nona. And let me tell them something. It's very hard to bring me down to your level and it's very easy for you to get to my level. It's easier for you to get to my level. So work hard, you'll get to my level. But wasting your time to bring me down to your level it will take you lifetime. Muta zikwata mukijaribu tukufika kuni leta chinikwenye muko. So the easiest way is to work hard and get to where I am. To get to my level. Nona. Shiku mina kwa mbiya. Right now you are in SPM. You don't know your future with SPM. You have a dream. You want to drive. You want to live a house. You want to help your parents. It's easier for you to help your parents than trying to impress wasewainje. You get it. It's easier wasewana tii success ningumu kuliko failure. Failing. It's very hard to fail. Very hard to fail. And it's very easy to succeed. So wala wasewana wakaada tii mimi niru dichini mbaka mungina ni ambiati hati let me save this let me save this in case you need some pay bill. Oh na nijuavizu rikuel. Do you know how many times ni me sota? How many times ni me sota? Nasi jai kuja ata ni kitaka pay bill. I'll never get to you. There are people that in Tawapigiasin ma me chekini me kuama. Today if I go down I can't feed my kids. I'll never get to you. I'll never come to you. You'll never go online crime. Let me tell you. Nezatendei online but that person me yana ni ni. Ye kuakita kuatuni kama entertainment. Kwa sabu mwenyeshida tra sejiye mwenyeshida. I was so just work hard to get to my level because bringing me down atini fi ke level li ako. Thank you so much Tumili for your time. Acha tu ne jinzimambu yata kaveni. Laki ni membia wa tu wa ishimaishao. Live your life. Kamu kuna chance yaku fake. Fake. No na. Wawa na semati omi Kanima ni mimi na isitu maisha yango vizuri. Mutua na semani fake. Just because umbu wa mitazama yali wa nyeshia plate plate yango which atrasima reakwanza wa watu anaiwa. And I don't because he posted that ni ni ni. During your back. Yes. Wali post na iluku anaiwa plate. Why haven't they talked about it? It might be before I leave now to Ketchana na his story. I think piwa watu uluku anataka kuskia sautiako on something that has been happening recently GBV, Gender based Violates. And not to say like this story of course we saw what Avril and J Blessings were having. They said they had an altercation last year. Kulku anana difference. But now people actually thought that it happened this year when Avril made a post laki ni akatoa. You know first of all the only people can solve their differences ni Avril na J. You see they are both my friends. So for us this is what we are online will just come and comment say me oh sorry na na. But we can't change a thing. You see what why did Avril delete cause the first even comments zilkwaza kumicheka. You see I went through GBV. What did people say? Una piwa na muamamke until today they still say the same thing You see. Nami mi nemutumoja you can never bring me down by ati tukuni ambi ati ati. Siaza una ni ambi atili piwa na bibi atu na zanita feel vibhaya. No I don't feel anything. You see. I don't feel anything. Una get. So history of Avril na J it's something that happened for them they know why it happened. How it happened. You see. It's only them. See siya ki tu posti ya wuku wamtandao. See siya ni kama entertainment quit. Unona. See siya tu na muambe. Tu na sympathize na itu muambe e pole ni ni ni ni bla bla bla but still ati kibaku yun yumba tuki muambe ato ok maybe ati piwa tena maia ati pi gana. Unona. We can't change a thing the only people can change in wow. But mi na semaga you see fight malpopote murife no murife murife murife I think that's the reason as to why ilku ana a whole debate palivo because of course after posting whatever Avril posted later on an apology and things like that people were like if it happens run don't turn back. You know sometimes love niki tu flani emotions not just love emotions sometimes ume pigo there there are many women out there and men when you wanna pick wanna pick one on a pigana when you love wanna feel the love you know you just know ah this guy today he was just out of mind out of his mind you know and he can pick guys he can pick tena unona ata nipiga tena alafina kujena apen tena so kitu ina fanyaga like mimi unona mi I used to stay for for my kids because there's a way I feel about my kids unona the thing is unapata relationship niki tu ene sometimes kama love yenu nyi nyi nndo mna jago yun metoka you can't control it emotions niki tu flani ineza fanya yeni I don't know emotion just dictates everything that's all unona too musei ataka demana kaga kwa relationship piyana piga gwa daily nga kosawa because why he doesn't she doesn't want to lose this man you know so ya ya ya emotions niki tu controls everything aha ya ya lastly I don't know what you would advise people out there on GBV generally in case it happens you know isn't if it was undone it's ok ma nyumba tutambia 2a 2a si pigane si yuki detect si yuki onar science is a violent person run but again you just can't run na unapenda umutu wuki randui vo umutu ataka kumbe akwa na nipenda kwa zami ya rupi akwa apologize na udima me kata unona so nyi nyi nimi unetu vile mutasol vita zeyu kama mutawuwa na kama mutafanya na nini but again I don't encourage GBV kwa zina happens na kwa twengi so many people don't wanna speak kus ya how we judge Kenyans we are so poor in judging such cases unapada tu like Avril loeli post unona what did people say atrae me nyali regret kupost unona so kani manjin and that is just avril kani manjin someone who doesn't have anything in the public ana place ya kupost ya atrapost pali aparte view sumbili na wuki yuma na uliwa unona so it's something that what what runs among us you talk to someone who are you talking to who is that person you are talking to una muambia nini na impaktiake kwa ii staf ni nini like when people used to tell me oh you speak out speak out what am I speaking out unona ikisha speak out alafu see I spoke out Obina spoke out on my behalf what are people talking about impakasai tangu janwa impakasai matusi nimoja wona pwona bibi sasa deywa mongesewa inginesasa ya kufeku plates unona wa kenya wana taka kuku ono koko chini unona people will celebrate you more when you are dead but when you are alive how many congratulations did you get today for just joining SPM very few how many congratulations how many happy birthday wishes do you get always r.i.p. tazidi h.b.d you get you will get more r.i.p.s than happy birthdays wishes mark that always people will post you more when you die they will post you less when you are winning yes today if tumili goes at yana ana beg people will talk more about me than when they talked about me when I bought my beema get ah li kwa na fake na tumili wa biyaga tu they will even do parties people will celebrate watone kaka gamba kama party biya in the tents just to celebrate your fall ya kivi labdat kumalizia una eza sewa ni emina ambiatulu I want to appreciate the few people who are supporting us who are celebrating the little things that we are doing out there there are people even at this time when others have gathered to bring us down they have stood firm to see us stand strong oh you know though it doesn't make a big impact at ineza kutuangusha tumili's brand is a brand ye ni metenginezo for for almost 13 years so to bring it down you need a lot of hassle wezi amuka tu su kumoji wa usha ut kikumoji anu uzi anu uta ni leta na uchi ni ita kutu it's ni numbu metenginezo na foundation visuri wa me sement visuri for 13 years so by the time you bring me down you also need the same time don't you bring down you need to start today count 13 years in ballet to bring me down yes mark that yeah and all the best