 His fingers are separated. They're all doing this till he talks about his staff and look at his fingers lock up. I have my own staff. Does he have people issues with his staff? Don't know. Something changed when he talked about his staff. Navarro says fingers separated thumbs up is confidence. His job taught you about yourself. It's the people. They're all so different and how you deal with the people. Here we are again, that lack of confidence. Look at his hands. His hands are locked. We're noticing he's owning the conversation, controlling the conversation and allowing you to ask certain questions. But he's very concise with where he goes with the answer. Now that doesn't mean he's a psychopath. There's a ton of reasons why people do this. And for you, if you see somebody suddenly change the way they're talking every time they talk about people, you might even just be a friend and say, everything okay? That's all you got to say. I'm not talking about finding a psychopath. I'm talking about getting across to people who may have something going on.