 For real, man, I got denials at every turn. You know, Glory God, I came back nine years and two months. Wow. Yeah, I started with 30 and ended up with a 21 and 10. How hard was it doing that? You had to be at the Law Library? That was my first stop. Yeah. When I got in, that's not overrated. You have to learn what you, you have to learn your case more than your lawyer. You got to know it forward and backward. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gon' talk. Like I say in the song, I say I left my son in the ring with no referee. Wow. I can hear him saying, daddy, they're getting the best of me. Wow. You know, I tell them, hey, be strong, push your shoulders back, fight, show me pedigree. You know what I'm saying? There's only so much, so I would make songs for him to listen to, because I knew he was in music. That's right. Oh, wow. You also catch 15 minutes on the phone. Yeah. You know, until cell phones can't do them. Already, already, I didn't do that. Man, did we see somebody on cell phone that night? What you show me? Oh my goodness. Everything on Instagram. This dude went live from prison, right? Then, hold up, hold up. So he blocked, no, he blocked the Chicago, it happened in Chicago PD. So he blocked them, so-called, from seeing it. They commented under his live, you blocked her main page, but you really think we can't see all of it? Hey, she was in prison all the time. Shout out to everybody. It was more live when you showed us your drinkers on the weekends. I'm not here, baby. He didn't go live, you know. I wouldn't ever go live. No, that's crazy. But that's only because I knew it would, he would probably go live. Yeah, he can't. I want it too. You wanted to do that. But especially when you see all the people doing it and don't get caught, you're like, okay, I can do it too. There's a setup. No, I knew I could. I knew, that's just- He different. But I got a question about prison. So while you were in prison, because I've heard so many different people's story that every time when they went to prison, whether they lost their mama, brother, uncle, you know, somebody, did you lose anybody while you were in prison that was close to you? I lost my mother in prison. In prison. I'm 16. I lost my grandmother. I lost my first cousin, like my brother, Jerome. And then each time I was in this shoe. Wow. Every time. So that's taking effect. That's when they time hard. Right. Because I'm seeing, you know, because he'll tell me, they don't really do that. People, they don't, the prisons don't do that. Cause when you watch movies, cause that's where I get a lot of my ideas and thoughts from, you'll see where you can ask permission to go to your mother's funeral or whoever and they'll take you to the funeral. But he was like, nah, a lot of these prisoners don't be doing that. So were you, oh, you have seen it happen. Some of them are no security prisons or camps. But me, no. No. And you pay for it. You pay for the extra manpower. So I offered to pay double and everything. And it still wouldn't let you go. Hell no. So they didn't want to let me go on my release. That's the way it did. For real. Man, I got denials at every turn. You know, Glory and God, I came back nine years and two months. Wow. Yeah. I started with 30, you know, and ended up with a 21 and 10. How hard was it doing that? You had to be at the Law Library? That was my first stop. Yeah. When I got in, that's not overrated. You have to learn what you, you have to learn your case more than your lawyer. You got to know it forward and backward. You got to know, you got to understand the language because just one word can change the language, change the whole meaning. You know, if something pertains to you, if something doesn't pertain to you. And I did that. You know, to agree. You learned about rits and everything. Right? But wouldn't that make you upset? Especially it depends on how your lawyer is. Because sometimes people can get these crooked lawyers who just want to go up in status so they just feed you to the walls. I've heard so many stories like that. So when you actually study and learn that, oh, my lawyer could have said this or he could have done this and this and this and he didn't. Wouldn't that make you just like? Because in 2012, I was supposed to get back 15 years because I never knew I could get, a lot of people, this is a glad you asked that question. A lot of people wanted to know, damn, I'm black. Why you didn't just take the 10 they were offering? Because they were offering me 10. Then they were offering me seven to write, okay? So why didn't you just take the 10 and be done with it? Because the lawyers told me that the most, I said, well, what's the most I can get? He said 12 to 15. I'm like, shit, crank it up, let's go to trial. So I went to trial and then when they came back with 30, that was the underlay for the overplay, right? They had now had something called a relevant conduct. They had me with all the relevant conduct and boosted up even more. What is a relevant conduct? They're saying like, say for instance, they charge me with six ounces of crack. But I got six ounces of crack for two years. They gonna charge you for that whole two years. That's the relevant conduct. Yeah, you know, it's just some shit they make up just to be honest, you know what I mean? So they hit me with the relevant conduct that boosted up to 30 and the lawyers didn't know it. They didn't see it coming. So in 2012, I had an honest lawyer named Doug Greenout this way and then I had another one named Mike High School Doug, I was like, hey man, this new thing came down to where, you know, you guys just admit it. You didn't see that coming, didn't they? They'll let me back here. I forget what it was called. So Doug was like, hey man, I'll do it. You know, I'm sure it's gonna be a blemish on air record or whatever because it was oversight on that park. Like, hey, I'll do it. My mom and my son went to Mike High School. Like, hey man, I'll do it. And when it came time, so I'm in court, man. So now they're reading the statements from the lawyer, crocodile tears in my eyes. Now I'm like, I'm gonna get out of here, you know. Even the, what do you call it, stenographer, person of type when she was looking, she was like, oh man, so they had it wrong. They told him he couldn't give it 12 to 15 because this is what they're admitting. Right. Then Mike High School gets on the phone and said, nah, we knew it was 30. He lied. Lied, he lied. Committed to keep his, I can't say why. Yeah, to keep his record. Let me rephrase that. I'm not gonna say you lied, he was just inaccurate. Yeah. And saying I don't wanna call the man alive because maybe it was a huge oversight, but the other lawyer knew. Yeah, because it was two of them. It was two. Right. Two lawyers. That's a both of them. Once they had, once they had, hey, we had no way. Even the, so to put it in perspective, even the district attorney said, we didn't know about the relevant conduct. We didn't see that coming either. But Mike High School did. What? When you look at it from that perspective, like you was in there fighting for your life. So when you look at that, you weren't the only one fighting for your life. It was other guys. What were some of the even worse-case scenarios than you, you know, because you seen them. Yeah, man. A bunch. It ain't mean to cut you off. It's okay. That's what made me start rapping in prison. I never wanted, I used to look at that, I'm not gonna be rapping in here. I'm fighting for my life. I'll be rapping while they hangin' me. But I seen guys that had heard about me and didn't eat though concerts and stuff in there. You know what I mean? I was in Beaumont at the time. In other places too, you know? And so those guys that, worse than they had life, they had 60 plus 620, you know what I mean? And they weren't ever gonna get a day. You know, it's a whole different body. Like I like to say, it hit different when, when you got a release date to say deceased. So that's what they were saying. So I'm like, you know, let me entertain these guys. Give them something real. You know, something they can respect. Because the bars will suck or something. If they're rapping, they ain't coming to see it. Yeah. Yeah. They know it's foolishness. Cause they gonna be there for the rest of their lives. Just give them something to... So, for good, man, too.