 But we also light scooters on fire. You truly do have it all. You truly have it all. See you curiously on Good Day Internet for more. You could do an expose bird scooters. Right. Yeah. The underground garage charging stations, you know, out by the beach, you know, off the grid. They look like fun means of transportation. You think it's full of surfers and bodybuilders, but no. Yeah. I mean, this is it's only funny because as far as I know, nobody was hurt last night, but like, my goodness. What used to be filled with surfboards and barbells is now filled with dangerous lithium ion batteries. The DNS explores the truth. Garages going in flames by the beach. Council meeting scheduled for Tuesday at night. Boy, we love our city council meetings around here. You know, somebody's mad about something always mad about this would be a good one. Cut through traffic, blame, Councilman Bonin. Right. We have signs in the yards all over here for that. Oh, gosh. Yeah, that's all, you know, we're going to replace the stop sign with a better one. Council meeting at nine. Council meeting at nine. All right. Have you ever been to one of those for the show? A couple. Yeah. Stuff I cared about. The show or the council meeting? Both. All right. I've been to a few of these as well. Let's give it a go. All right. Here we go. Three, two. Daily Tech News show is powered by me, but I couldn't do it on my own. I'd like to thank the over 4,800 other patrons who help keep this show going each day. Visit DailyTechnewshow.com slash support if you too would like to help power this show. This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, August 2nd, 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm Sarah Lane. And joining us, very happy to have from Engadget.com, Nicole Lee back with us. Hello. I'm here from Foggy, San Francisco. It is foggy. We have finally hit the point where San Francisco has a significantly different temperature than Los Angeles. Significantly so, yes. That is a season in California for those elsewhere in the world. Our producer, Roger Chang, is here as well, sweltering away in his house. Sweltering in the sun-drenched Southern California sunshine. So Nicole follows augmented reality among the many things that she covered over there at Engadget. So we're going to check in on sort of the state of augmented reality. There was an interesting publication out from the folks who run the Game Developers conference about that. But let's start with a few tech things you should know. Apple announced in an email to publishers that apps for iOS and macOS will no longer be included in its affiliate program. The company says its new app store interfaces for iOS and macOS have new methods of discovery for those apps. All other content types, that's music, movies, books and TV will remain in the affiliate program. Apple dropped the affiliate rate for in-app purchases from 7% to 2.5%. Bad time to be somebody whose entire business was based on that affiliate revenue. Cisco announced it's buying security firm Duo Security for $2.35 billion. Co-founder and CEO Doug Song will continue as Duo's general manager and will join Cisco's networking and security business. Duo's security platform lets employees use their own devices for adaptive authentication instead of using separate key fobs with security codes. A part of the battery usage UI and iOS developer, iOS 12 developer beta 5 shows an iPad with no home button, thinner bezels, and also no notch. So obviously somebody at Apple doesn't draw very well or maybe there's another explanation. Maybe there's a buttonless, not flawless iPad pro on the horizon maybe coming out this fall. I like the idea of trying to come up with something else that that could mean. A San Diego federal jury awarded YLAN, a Canadian patent holding company, $145.1 million in damages from Apple for infringing its patents. The iPhone was found to have infringed two YLAN patent related to wireless communications. Apple plans to appeal that ruling, so that's not over yet. Let's talk a little more about Facebook. Let's do it. Facebook is launching its own version of playable ads across its platforms and its apps. Let a player try out a game before actually downloading and get a sense of if it's fun, if you're going to want to do it and are more likely to keep playing after installing because they already know that they like it. Facebook's playable ads launch a video of the game first and then shift to HTML5 for interactivity. The effort wasn't better for more than a year, so Facebook has been working on this for some time. The company also introduced retention optimization, which charges more for ads delivered to people, more likely to keep playing a game, and value optimization, which helps target players likely to make in-app purchases. So I guess that largely depends on your past behavior. Yeah, there's a bunch of analytics to go into that, obviously. This is where Facebook uses all that data they collect on you to make predictions. This idea of playable ads is not new. It's something you've seen on Android and iOS as well. So, of course, Facebook rolling it out across the platforms means they're tying into people who sell things in the app stores. I don't ever play those ads, do you, guys? I mean, certainly, obviously, Facebook's functionality just rolled out, so I haven't been able to try it out there. Yes, I have tried this. I've seen them on the web when I'm on my Android tablet. Yeah, and in general, especially when I used to do, I don't know, more app shows regularly where I was just downloading app after app. Anything that was playable, you know, game or equivalent, that's a great feature. I mean, there are so many times you're like, oh, this is actually what I wanted. I wish I would have known beforehand, and then you either delete the app or it kind of just sits there. Facebook knowing that there was probably a fair amount of that going on and trying to figure out, yeah, how will they allow advertisers to have a better understanding of who's downloading the stuff when they see it, but like, is it just sort of a fluke, or is this actually a valuable customer who's going to be using your game or your app for some time to come? That's an important distinction. Yeah, I wonder if those playable ads will translate to them actually downloading and purchasing the game, just because I feel like a lot of the playable ads that I've seen anywhere are the kinds of games that I would probably never download on my own volition, but they're like fun little like, you know, bubble the jewel cones, right? Usually, I think. Do you play them? I think, I don't even, I probably like see the demo and I probably like try to play like maybe one game, but it's not a kind of thing that I would ever download just because it's not a thing that I would do, but I can maybe people with different tastes than I have might be willing to do that. Well, that's the implication of this story. The reason Facebook has spent so much time and energy doing this is the advertiser saying, no, this works. We're using this in other platforms and the people who play the game when they download it are more likely to keep playing it. So we're just the wrong people because we either don't play it all in my case or we don't download the game in your case. The information has new sources that tell it Google is developing a news app for China. It would pick news algorithmically and attempt to work within the bounds of Chinese restrictions on what can be put in an app in China. Chinese news app, Totiao has run into trouble with the government for failing to police its algorithmically generated content. So they've paid some fines and been suspended a couple of times, but apparently they've weathered that storm. So it would be something Google would have to deal with as well. The app would supposedly arrive before the Google search app for China that the information said they had sources saying Google was working on. We talked about that yesterday. Reuters added its own source at Google and one in the Chinese government confirming that Google does have a plan to bring a search app to China. Of course, all of this on the background of people ready to condemn Google if they play by Chinese filter rules and of course the looming trade war between China and the U.S. Well, so this is, you know, to expand on the conversation we've been having earlier in the week of is Google going to offer finally a, you know, a Chinese friendly version of its browser to be able to grow in that market. Does it matter to anybody who would condemn Google for something like this that Google might instead launch a standalone news app for China specifically? I mean, Nicole, they're already taking FLAC for the sources saying this and of course Google is not confirming that either of these things are true. I can't imagine that they wouldn't take less FLAC if they put it out. Yeah, you know, this is kind of the issue that all businesses have to do with when they do with China, unfortunately. I think Facebook faced the same issue several years ago when it was trying to go big, get big in China. And I think that's why when it comes to the Chinese market, Chinese Internet companies tend to do better like Baidu and those companies like WeChat, for example, and whereas like US brands like Facebook and Google don't do as well just because of that barrier. Facebook and Google particularly are not allowed to work in China unless they play by the filter restrictions with which up until now neither have been willing to do. And of course, last week we heard about Facebook just trying to open a developer's office in China and not being able to yet get permission for that. I'm also just, if this were to go through, I'm interested in how an algorithm like this would work because, you know, it's like, okay, you block certain keywords, you block certain domains, you know, maybe, you know, you block certain journalists who are part of certain stories, but it kind of ends up usually if you're actually not going to get in trouble for your algorithm letting stuff through, turning into, okay, well these are the ten sites that are cool with us. Oh, Sarah, name one time an algorithm has ever failed to block content that someone didn't want to be published on the internet. It's true, robots are perfect. It's the humans that take the state. You know, there are a lot of new sites that have two different versions. Like, I know Engadget Chinese have like a behind-the-firewall version and like a, I guess, not behind-the-firewall version of their news site. So I don't, I guess this is kind of basically like the compromise Google and Facebook and all these other companies have to make. And I guess the question comes down to are US consumers who are obviously more into free rise and free speech and all of that, whether we're okay with that or not? I think a lot of people aren't, but whether it's going to impact Google's bottom line or not is really a good question. Twitter announced Wednesday that users will no longer be able to automatically cross-post tweets to Facebook. Tom Merritt, looking at you. Yeah. Facebook has changed its API for a variety of reasons. Data protection being a big part of it to no longer let apps post to Facebook as the logged in user via another service. IFT, IFTT, IFTT. You can just say IFTT. IFTT, was that? I thought there were two F's in there. IFTT also announced it could no longer support posting to Facebook profile pages as well as a few other companies. Yeah. So I will no longer be posting on Facebook. The only thing you see from me posted on Facebook are my tweets. That's right. In general. You're one of the holdouts. Be going silent. Yeah. Well, there was a time where a lot of people were doing that and it has weighing some, but I see a lot of people's tweets that either I saw on Twitter already that are on Facebook. It doesn't mean that you can't post a tweet to Facebook. It's just a manual copy paste or copy link to tweet of which Twitter has within its own settings. But yeah. Facebook says no more. Does that upset you, Tom? I not really know. I kind of forget that it's going in the background sometimes until I see someone respond on Facebook. I'm like, oh, right. Stuff right here does show up over there. In some ways, I'm almost glad. Oh, and thanks to Carol for writing in about this about three days ago. Yeah, she did. Yes. Thank you so much to Carol. In fact, I saw that email yesterday and was like, hmm, that's interesting. It was before the sort of greater news broke out. So Carol, thanks for being on the case and sending us an email. She actually received from WordPress.com telling her of the upcoming changes. This is based. Efteling theme park is taking part in the next web and Vodafone's IOT challenge to connect established companies with startups to solve problems. The idea for the theme park is to reduce downtime of rides and reduce maintenance costs. Two companies are in an article that are potential partners. One Amsterdam's one watt uses AI to detect problems in motors. So it could monitor the motors of these rides and help predict ride malfunctions before they happen. That means you could schedule the maintenance when the ride is not in use to prevent downtime. It would also be cheaper because you wouldn't have to keep so many maintenance people on call all the time. But one of the challenges is that background noise in a theme park is less predictable than in an industrial setting. So it's harder to filter out. That's an opportunity for Helsinki's noiseless acoustics, which detects problems in the sounds of machines. Their sensors and AI could learn to filter out the background noise and then pass along the resulting profile to one watt. Wow. I did not realize this was something that a theme park had to worry about so much, although you do hear about issues that happen here and there. And also really interesting to be like, okay, well if there's something about to malfunction with one of these rides, roller coaster or otherwise, the sound of it is actually a really big indicator. But that's funny because, yeah, theme parks are full of screaming kids trying out sound is a particular challenge in a place like this. Yeah. And in a factory floor, you probably have predictable sounds, right? Yeah. The junk or whatever. Sure. Of the machines, whereas, you know, human noises are less predictable. So I just think this is a really good example when people are like, what is AI good for besides taking my jobs? Well, here, here's an example. I don't know if anybody's ever been stuck on a ride before. I have. Only happened once, but it wasn't fun. Twice. Really? Once on the Harry Potter ride at Universal and once on Star, the Space Mountain at Disneyland. And I haven't been to theme parks that many times. Oh, wow. Space Mountain would be a weird one, especially if they turn on the lights and just ruin everything. Totally did. Yeah. Sorry to hear that, Tom. All right. Well, maybe this will help cheer everybody up or redo, which is a German nonprofit organization is using solar powered MP3 players to bring health information to people in remote regions, specifically the Aka people and women specifically living in these regions, which is mostly based in the Central African Republic and Congo. The information is performed as a song by indigenous musicians, because again, a lot of these folks are closed off into the rest of the world because of a variety of reasons, not having access to newspapers or not being able to read, etc. One big topic, preventing diarrhea, which is reported to lead to the deaths of 2,195 children every day. That's more than well, that's, that's, that's a big number. The Aka have no official written language, which is sort of lending to why this is important, often have limited or no access to written materials on healthcare. So the information is presented in songs that are stored on these MP3 players that are solar powered. Don't get the diarrhea by not licking that thing. I mean, this is It's very catchy, Tom. Thank you. But all kidding aside, it's like, think about this. It's like, okay. It's genius. It really is. Yeah, there are certain regions where people don't have access to healthcare information that they need. Even if they did have access to it, they, they can't necessarily read written materials or, you know, absorb information, but it's very important and you don't want anybody to be sick and or dying, particularly children. Absolutely. And yeah, the fact that there's limited, you know, power and these MP3s are solar and the song haven't heard any of them would love to. The song is an important part of the culture of a lot of these people. Yeah. That is another reason why they do it through song because people are like, oh, yeah, no, I like, I like absorbing information that way. It's actually, it's actually a traditional way of doing it. Sure, sure. Yeah. I mean, I can think of lots of songs that I heard, at least when I was younger about, you know, how to how to stay safe presented presented through a song. So kids remember. Nicole, what do you think of this? I think it's brilliant and I wonder what other parts of the world because I can't imagine they're the only people who don't have a written language or just aren't able to read, right? So I can't, there are probably tons of communities all around the world that are illiterate or whatever it is. And this would be interesting to see how far-reaching it is. I wonder what other audio formats besides music, could there be, you know, something with drumming or poetry or, you know, that's it. Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to dailytechheadlines.com. All right. There's a new XRDC innovation report that came out from the UBM Game Network. They're the folks behind GDC, the Game Developers Conference. This is their third annual study of more than 600 AR and VR professionals to find out how are things going with this? Are you still working on it? 20% of people developing for AR and VR are developing games. Now, these numbers are going to add up to more than 100% because some developers are working on more than one type of thing at a time, so don't get confused. But 70% are developing games. 37% are working on training and education uses. Now, that's up from 27% last year. So while gaming still is predominant, you're starting to see more development in other areas. Now, 25% working on branded experiences. If you've been to a car dealership, some of them now have this sort of thing or I've been to a movie theater where they were showing off aspects of, say, the Jungle Book movie was one in VR, so those kinds of things. As far as what they're working on, it's still the same equipment for now. HTC Vive is the most popular platform for the third year running. Oculus Rift still number two, although Android's AR core has now passed the number three most popular platform. And if you're wondering about Magic Leap, it leaped from 3% to 8%. So some people are actually using that development kit. And 75% of the people surveyed for this report think augmented reality will be bigger than virtual reality in the long term because it's more accessible and has broader use cases. And I went looking for some good examples of AR use cases that you might not think of. Gatwick Airport in the UK is using augmented reality as an airport guide to kind of help you get around the airport. IKEA, we've talked about, has a room organizer. Lowe's has a virtual tape measure and room organizer. Sephora has a virtual artist where you can see how makeup would look on you. There's a company called AccuVane that has a handheld device to help nurses scan the vein network of a patient and has led to a 45% reduction in escalations. Lockheed is actually one of the ones I was most impressed with because they are speeding up manufacturing processes on building spacecraft. Instead of having to look through binders of data or content on a computer across the room, the people working on building spacecraft are wearing AR devices like the HoloLens that overlay the instructions for drilling or applying torque to specific parts. And Shelley Peterson of Lockheed Martin said that augmented reality systems have now reduced manufacturing time from six weeks of drilling and assembly to two. So there are more people working on non-game uses of this. There are an expanding number of types of uses of this. Nicole, how does this mesh in with the coverage you've been seeing and reporting on? So I think there are a few different factors here and as you mentioned augmented reality is much bigger than we think it is. And that's sort of the PR problem that augmented reality has right now in the sense of when you think of AR, you don't really think of anything. You think of a really expensive HoloLens. You think of magic which isn't even in the market yet. These are all very far away distant things. The only thing you really think about are Pokemon Go or ARC or ARKit stuff. But in actuality, AR is pretty big but only in certain markets. The enterprise is huge and it's huge in the medical manufacturing industry. HoloLens is used with 4, I think Microsoft partnered with 4 to use HoloLens so that engineers can visualize full-scale models in 3D and I think there are some medical colleges or medical universities that are using medical imaging so you can see the way the body structure is built and so on and so forth. So it's actually pretty big in enterprise and the reason for that is because augmented reality hitsets right now, they're big, they're bulky, they're kind of clunky and they're really expensive, like over $1,000 for a hitset, right? And that's really expensive for a consumer but for a business, $1,000 for a hitset, that's like no big deal. It's not a big deal. If you reduce production time by 4 weeks you pay for itself quickly. Exactly, you pay like $1,000 any day. So right and the issue right and that's why they can take off so much more in enterprise markets and those sort of specialized markets because it totally makes sense in those specific use cases. The problem is when you try to put that to like a consumer thing, like magic leaves trying to do it, I think a lot of other customers trying to do it, it's like it's hard you have to get it really small and like it has to be cheap, it has to look good, you know, so all of those situations coming in it's much harder for a consumer AR hitset than it is for an enterprise hitset. That doesn't mean AR isn't working that doesn't mean AR isn't successful it's just kind of very early days still. Yeah, I mean Google Glass still exists as an enterprise product and people make jokes and you know I try not to get pedantic about it like Google Glass died a long time ago, I'm like well actually no it didn't, it just moved it, it just grew up and got a job when it happened to Google Glass. But I think for me is somebody who's mildly interested in this, I mean I'm interested in the sense of wanting to you know talk about it and know about it, but mildly interested in a virtual reality experience for the most part. Anything that gets me on board that can be tied to the devices I already use which you know obviously Apple's not alone although I have an iPhone but those sorts of AR experiences that just help my context that you know that will be something that I will start to apply to my everyday use without even saying anything like yeah I'm into AR you know it's just a part of your life. VR part of it is you know it requires in many cases hardware like you said Nickel expensive hardware stuff that is less portable and limited and often wired so that's why I think that you know a lot of folks are you know whether or not they're even on the fence about you know where this is all going we're using a lot of AR already. Right and I think it's very, I think you mentioned a great point about the AR AR kit for the iPhone, AR core for Android and the reason why those are so important is because that is the stepping stone for developers to build AR apps and once the AR apps ecosystem gets more robust you know we've seen the IKEA room organizer we've seen like the Lowe's virtual tape and the Sephora virtual artists once you get more and more AR apps like actual use cases for AR and then the then the use case for our consumer hits that starts to make more sense it's like oh instead of using a phone to sort of like just like hold over my magazine to see the you know different things pop up I can just wear my glasses and can see the same thing right so that's why the apps thing is really where it should start once you start finding a good use case for AR like oh it totally makes sense and make sense now and I think that's where like the consumer introduction will sort of seep in. And I feel like the thing that is hurting the perception of the success of AR is the same thing that might make it a success which is I don't see it around me right with virtual reality oh I know when you're using it right because you got that big old headset on your face. So I know VR but that's also a barrier which is like oh right I have to go get that thing and put it on and cover my face and I can't see anything else and I can't do anything else whereas AR I bet a lot of you listening have used it you're just not thinking about it as AR I mean I was thinking about this earlier today I went to do some measurements in the backyard we were putting up a fence for the dogs and instead of taking the actual measuring tape I had my phone I was like oh I'll just use this I used the measuring app right because I didn't think about it as I'm going to use AR I was like oh I've got a measuring app I'll just use this but I was using augmented reality right then. Well thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit we always have good VR and AR stories in there but lots of stories you can submit them you can vote on stories that are already that have already been submitted and it helps us learn more about what you like to hear about dailytechnewshow.reddit.com go there have some fun also on facebook facebook.com slash group slash dailytechnewshow I was in the Facebook group earlier this afternoon popping in on a couple conversations good stuff in there people kind of going over the news and in a critical way I love to see that when people start to like well hold on you posted this story but I think maybe there's another angle to it they're doing what we do on the show in the Facebook group which is fantastic to see. We also love getting the emails what's in the mail bags here oh glad you asked Tom John has some movie pass feedback based on our conversation yesterday and says he plans to cancel the service and here's what John says the biggest deal breaker for my wife and I was peak pricing this was implemented back in July it was supposed to be a small surcharge on movies that were in very high demand in areas first I was okay with that theaters aren't always that crowded we could probably find a showing that didn't have the surcharge and you know go at a later time however proved not to be true in my area last week starting on Thursday every movie in every showing had that surcharge every theater around us this included the 10 30 p.m. showing of Teen Titans go really can't see that showing being high and backed maybe it was this continued until Monday when no show had the surcharge that small surcharge by the way says John is 50 percent over the normal ticket price so not that small with the change and the removal of new movies from the service we just decided to cancel when the price change was announced without the removal of these restrictions we thought it made the right choice we were willing to still pay $20 a month for the service if it didn't have restrictions but now we're about buying tickets at a normal price having the convenience of buying tickets ahead of time when our local theater has reserved seating what else are you going to do yeah you might want to check out Cinemia they're available in a lot of businesses in the U.S. and they work with the theater systems to do the advance purchasing they're cheaper they just didn't have unlimited that's the big difference between Cinemia and movie passes they never had the big splash because they never went overboard and they're also looking a lot more healthy as a business thank you John those unlimited packages very rarely unlimited after all yeah even if even a movie passes case they're like unlimited oh we don't have that actually yeah unlimited actually doesn't work what we would love to be unlimited is Nicole Lee's future appearances on this show Nicole good to have you back and let folks know where they can keep up the rest of your work happy to be back um you can just go to twitter.com slash Nicole or just gooddayengadget.com and you find a story from me sooner or later well yeah you're fresh back from vacation I'm going to give you a couple minutes exactly yeah but you do great work over there so check it out folks in gadget.com and also folks check out patreon.com slash dtns it's august 2 which means that if you are a supporter on patreon you need to go to the site to get all the perks a lot of people throughout the month say where was that link how do I hook up to the discord where do I find the podcast RSS all of those questions are answered in a series of posts that went up yesterday at patreon.com slash dtns and by the way if you didn't back us yet now's a great time to back us and get access to those posts so uh go check it out patreon.com slash dtns hey we love your feedback love it love it love it keep it coming feedback at daily tech news show dot com is our email address if you can join us live we'd love to have you Monday through Friday at 30 p.m. eastern 20 30 UTC you can find out more at daily tech news show dot com slash live we'll be back tomorrow with our special guest from the smr podcast Rob Dunwood talk to you then this show is part of the frog pants network get more at frogpants dot com as you enjoy this bro ah beautiful show thank you nicole thank you nicole my pleasure alright alright lets look for um ai whats a good for silencing the screams of children wait you said ai ai ai i think we meant silencing the screams of children because of the um theme park got it oh i was like the diarrhea story I was like, I was thinking, I'm like, did they mean A.R.? But then how would that silence the screams of children? Also too long. Wow, it sounds very, I don't know. Is that the best we have, Raj? No, I just liked it was funny. All right, I'm not dead yet. And you don't like Google Glass grew up and got a job. I sure. I mean, did it? Yeah, it's like successful in the enterprise. It stopped hanging out in bars, being creepy. You got you got a button down shirt. Yeah, that moved up to the grindstone. It's that in the chat. Moved upstate, has a couple of kids. So bourbon life. Yeah. When's the last time? Well, it might be different in San Francisco, but I haven't seen anyone wearing Google Glass. Are you going to factory floors very often? I'm just saying for anybody who had early models, I actually have one. You but like, OK, and maybe wear them. I don't know. I haven't. No, I never wear them. I mean, I mean, it's been a solid. I don't know. I mean, three to five years. I just haven't haven't seen. No, you wouldn't. You would not see them out on the street. No, no. Because they're they're gone from the consumer space. They're very successful in the enterprise space. Very successful in outer space. Big Jim says, go to DHL FedEx or UPS and you'll see them. Interesting. They live under the overpasses. When I I was I was sitting like in a passenger seat on a, you know, a little plane. This isn't recently, like last year, some time, you know, in the pilot. It's a, you know, they used to have all those. It was like big binders of flight stuff. And now he has an iPad. But even then, I was like, you know, it actually really helped some AR glasses. You know, so you wouldn't have to be looking down at this thing, which is obviously way less cumbersome than it used to be, but still felt sort of clunky. Where I kept saying, like, do you want me to hold you like drive free? Or can I hold the wheel? Exactly. Well, what are we? What are we calling this? It's funny you say that. We're up and got a job. Go ahead, Nicole. No, the reason why that's interesting is because ODG is as a maker of Agnes and they did make one for FedEx for like pilots. For like cargo plane pilots, like FedEx pilots. Oh, nice. They didn't make one. Did it replace the was it a heads up display? Did it like show them like the altitude altimeter? It's like it's like a oxygen mask for pilots. And like it's anyway, let me I'll link it into the you can take a look at it to me. OK, I'll email it to just FYI. Yeah, it's cool. It's being used now. You know, one of the things it was it was too too far into the weeds to really bring up on the show. But one of the things I read in one of these articles was companies that are trying to deploy AR are recommended to take the manuals away because adoption is slowed if you let people keep their manuals because they're like, I don't know, I'm just used to the manual. And so you kind of have to be like, no, you have to use this now to get them to adopt it in some field work situations. Which, of course, immediately made me think, yeah. And then after you force that guy to use the AR, it breaks. And he's like, see, I told you, I needed the manual. Right. Well, the military, the military is a big user. They are. Yeah. It's a display helmet mounted displays. Anyway, I have to go now. But thank you for me. Thank you for being on the show. Thanks to all great. You lose some of that cool air down here. I'll open my window and hopefully you get it. Yeah, just kind of just, you know, blows out. Push the fans out. Yeah, I'll do that. I'll open the window and then like send it. I'll send it your way. You're a gem. Bye. Bye. Be sure, everyone. I can't remember now who said it earlier. I think it was the fixer, maybe, but. Described Good Day Internet as a food show with a 30 minute daily tech news show commercial inside. Of commercial would be what I would. How I would describe our actual show. But yeah. But well, yeah, food. You know what I had yesterday? Mm hmm. Are you ready? Are you ready for this? OK, so are you? Yeah, y'all ready for this? OK, so, you know, I don't like potato chips. Correct. But have liked kettle chips in the past. Right. We've established these as facts on previous shows. There is a new flavor new to me. Anyway, that is Dill Pickle Kettle chips. OK, I've seen Dill Pickle chips before, but I didn't. I don't know if I've seen Kettle chips. I bought them yesterday. It's like eating Dill Pickles. No, that's a good thing. In fact, I'm going to get them now. Here's the thing. And this is I kind of know the answer to this, but I feel like there's this element of the audience that I need to represent by asking this right now. Why not just eat a Dill Pickle then? But sometimes you want the crispness of a chip, the crunch of a potato chip. Dill Pickles are pretty crunchy. Not like they're not crunchy, but they're they're wet. They're not dry. I mean, some people don't like pickles. I don't like sweet pickles, but I like a good Dill Pickle. I was asking the question that I'm sure people in the audience have, which is why not just eat Dill Pickles? Well, there's no reason not to. But I just had never seen this flavor before. And I was like, hmm, there is something about eating a thing that's not supposed to taste like another thing, but it does that is that is enjoyable. And when I saw this, I was like, hamburger potato chips are the same way. Like, wow, it really tastes like a hamburger. It's like, you don't want to just eat a hamburger, but it's kind of gross. I don't know. It was, I mean, I'll tell you, I lost the whole package within an hour. It was really, I don't know. You have to like Dill. Even if you don't love Pickles, you have to like the Dill season. I mean, it's that's what it tastes like. It's a very strong Dill flavor, but I liked it. How should it be good? By the way, how is in the discord says my doctor used Google Glass? Really? Like recently? Don't know. Maybe he was just surfing Facebook while he was treating his patients. Oh, and a link to taking photos. Look at the look at the discord. How has just put a link to a YouTube video about augmetics from Sutter Health, which uses Google Glass. Yeah, OK. I stand corrected. Well, I mean, I didn't say that. Medical professionals weren't using us. I just said I didn't see Google Glass ever anymore. That's cool. You wouldn't. That was my point. Yeah. Of course, you don't. No, they're not. They're not out and about. It's like saying I don't see my friend anymore now that they're married. Now that they now that they have a job. They there's they exist. Yeah, they're just not going to be on the circuit. Google Glass just busy working. Google Glass got married. Yep. Settled down. Oh, ball and chain. Says it reduces paperwork at the end of the day for the doctor transcription happening on the other end. Nice. Actually, having instant transcription as you as they do is huge. I used to transcribe medical for a doctor. Did you? Did you really? It was a pain in the foot. I well, I didn't know that I worked for an office that part of their workload was doing transcription. I would get these tapes. Gotcha. And I would like this guy and like all people when they have just recording, they talk, but they kind of ramble and you need to kind of like, you know, you're talking about, you know, I need to get my whatever repairs. Like, no, that's nothing to do with the patient. And then you got a little foot pedal to run the tape recorder back fast and slow. It's like, what did you say? Hold on, let's go back a little bit. Foot pedal. That's crazy. I really hated that job. I used to do citations for a psychology professor at the University of Illinois. And the way he wanted his citations managed where I would write them on the back of old punch cards and keep them in an alphabetical order in a file. So I had to know APA style, American Psychological Association style and like write out all his citations for him. Citations, salutations. Do, do, do, salutations. No, nobody. Oh, that chip is supposed to taste like it was a stretch. When you eat barbecue chips, what is it like? Like the barbecue, like the the actual like grill, or is it supposed to just taste like the barbecue sauce? What's your question? I'm just thinking about your dill pickle chips. Oh, I was thinking like Tom was saying, like, we often like eating things that taste do not taste like something they're not supposed to. And I was thinking barbecue. And I love barbecue like chips. But what exactly am I supposed to be tasting? It's not like barbecue sauce. It's supposed to taste like barbecue sauce. Yeah, we're like the seas, the seasoning. That's funny because, yeah, like the barbecue flavor of things like chips is not necessarily the barbecue. It's a kind of barbecue thing that you know what you're getting in. I no longer associate the barbecue flavor potato chips with trying to taste like actual barbecue. It's a it's a flavor of its own for potato chips. Yeah, I will say the dill pickle chips taste like dill pickles. They take it's like eating a dill pickle, but the consistency is totally different. I think I had them in Japan, the cheeseburger potato chips. They used to they used to Doritos did a mystery bag of chips with a flavor that you were supposed to write in what it tasted like. And they gave you some what it was tasted exactly like a Big Mac like a McDonald's Big Mac. Is that a good thing or was it just strange? I thought it was weird. I gave some to Patrick Norton and said, yeah, these taste really familiar, but I don't know what it is. So yeah, they taste exactly like a Big Mac, right? And he said, yeah, they're right. And he spit them out. I think he was freaked out that he didn't like Big Macs, I guess. Well, no, it's just like, you know, you take an item that's supposedly like two meat patties and, you know, buns. I love I love the cheeseburger flavor potato chips. I also like pizza flavored potato chips. I haven't had either of those things, but I feel like I would like them. But I think I've got them both in Japan. They have crazy flavored potato chips. They have crazy flavored Kit Kats, too. Ah, the green. The Kit Kats are awesome. Green tea Kit Kats, Sake flavored Kit Kats. Unemployment flavored Kit Kats. Green tea and sake. I just don't like Kit Kats, but we've been through this. I bet you would like some of these. Well, wait a minute, is your problem with Kit Kats? The texture for the way for. Nope, it reminds me of potatoes. It's like eating lint. But you just like potato chips. They taste like dill pickles. I like them better than regular potato chips. But like I'd rather I'd still rather eat a dill pickle. I just thought that they did a really good job of the flavor. Did you buy the bag? Yes, I have it right here. But so like you thought of highly enough of it to actually buy something you normally wouldn't. Well, how am I going to find out what it tastes like? I don't try. Try. There's no try before you buy app stuff going on here. You know, that's what my local market run. I've always wondered why couldn't they do what they do with the nuts and the raisins and stuff where you scoop them out into the bag? Like where you could just like, hey, I want to try what these new like pop tarts taste like. I can have a like a little thing of crumbs of pop tarts and you try it. Don't think you're. What? Who does that? No one. That's my complaint. They should. Oh, yeah. It's true. It's true. I would buy things in bulk more often if it was acceptable to somehow try them, which it isn't not, you know, going to the bag type thing. But yeah, oh, you know what? One other flavor I was thinking that because I don't like real watermelon, but I don't hate that sort of like watermelon gum or watermelon candy flavor because it's a different flavor. Another flavor where it's like, I get that it sort of reminds me of watermelon, but it doesn't really taste like watermelon. No, they're different. They're totally different because those I'm, you know, I'm not like seeking them out necessarily, but I don't dislike that flavor, but it's totally different. Then actual watermelon watermelon, apple, I thought were the two worst flavors for gum and candy. Like they're just nasty. I didn't mind apple. It's like, why is not even apple? But I'm cherry is my favorite fruit flavor. Cherry was cherry is always good. Cherry grape. Yeah, no, I never liked cherry. I loved grape. Grape was good. Grape and lime. I always liked everything that was lime. You can have my lime. Yeah, I'll take it. 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