 Hey guys, welcome back to my YouTube channel, Daniel Rosel here in Jerusalem, lovely day getting into night time here, it's on a setting across my window and I wanted to record a video today on a subject that I think might be of interest to people living in Israel and if you are living in Israel and you buy stuff from the internet, whether you're buying from AliExpress or eBay in particular but also from Amazon, Amazon is generally more streamlined than AliExpress and eBay from a customs clearance perspective but nevertheless you do have to sort of like be careful. Now obviously I just want to clarify I'm not recording this video from the perspective of a customs broker or an expert in this area by any means. What I do want to just get across is that when you hear people saying that customs can seize your modem at the airport or if you try to buy it online they're actually correct it can totally happen. I know this first hand because I attempted to buy last year a wireless doorbell and it was a whole epic saga it ended up falling into the hands of this derelict customs clearance company and I've been invited to participate in literally a class action lawsuit because they're so bad they never asked for this issure permit from Misrata Tikshoret. Nevertheless this can happen even if you've got a good customs forwarding agent you just have to be aware of it and what's going on behind the scenes. So really interesting article up on heraritz.com from Meirav Arlasanorov Arlasarov Arlasarov as in Arlasarov and Tel Aviv and she basically explains that you know Israel does have a reputation for being super bureaucratic at times and I've generally found it not to be so bad but I can see that there are areas where that reputation maybe is you know a bit more deserved than in other places and it seems to me like this is one of those areas that technically to do things by the book if your wireless equipment isn't already certified by Misrata Tikshoret the communications ministry then either you or your customs clearance broker needs to go through the process of applying for an issure, a permit, a fresh and Israelis are obsessed with issureim and issureim in English translates as you know permit but Israelis like love these you practically need an issureim to like raise a ruler on your desk in Israel that's an exaggeration. But she points out in this article that basically did you buy your kid a remote-controlled car toy on your last trip abroad actually let me just read from the lead it might sound funny that the Bluetooth headphone you bought abroad is illegal but that arcane law also pushes the prices and keeps consumers behind technologically. Now the law to which he's referring is the telegraph law of 1972 or that's when this law was last amended you can see up on the Kinesit website and some of the legislation I didn't go digging through it in Hebrew but the point that I do want to make is that wireless equipment and telegraphs might sound like something from the last century but it's actually very very relevant to today because wireless is a pretty broad category of electronics whether we're talking about wireless microphones or modems or as she said a remote controlled kid anything that uses some kind of wireless technology and that's a pretty big spectrum of different radio frequencies to operate could fall file of this legislation. So I did a little bit of digging and that's what I wanted to show you guys in this screen share and I'm doing this as a screen share because it wouldn't really be effective to try to explain something when there's pages on the internet so what you can do if you want to see what's going on if you've ordered something wireless and whether an issuer is going to be needed or not is go on to the website of Misrada Tikshorat and you'll find a page there that says in Hebrew baka shal issuer siyud al-khutih which means a request for the issuer the authorization of siyud al-khutih at wireless equipment. Now I'm just going to also highlight a bit of this page that says here in Hebrew meshech et-tipur be baka shot li-ishur hit'em hadhad pa'ami hu'ad 14 yeme'avodah be avur baka shot li-ishur hit'em t'ekufa ti'ad esgrim yeme'avodah so what that means is if it's a one time request for importing a wireless device they're processing time they're you know SLA if you will service level agreement is 14 business days and this form I think is really intended for importers but just saying that if you are looking for a recurring permit or something longer then it's going to be 20 and it mentions this life law the telegram telegram law of 1972 telecommunications law so um worth knowing now there is a video here and they actually do a pretty good job explaining what the situation is and just like kind of cluing people into the fact that so um what confuses me I'm not sure if this is actually intended for consumers because you can use this form as a personal there is you can actually feel like this form both as a customs professional and on behalf of yourself so the fact that there is space for to do the DIY approach kind of suggests to me that this is dual use and this video certainly makes it seem what they're saying is like if you buy a drone on the internet you want to bring it to Israel and you don't want it to get stuck in meches which is customs which is this caricature a guy so this little graphic is just showing the different types of things that could inadvertently fall under the category and it's just saying that it's explaining the purpose of this regulatory structure that you know they're trying to keep frequency separate and that's why even though this regulation seems very bureaucratic and very red tapish there is a reason for it so they're showing you know for example wi-fi is kept on its spectrum radio navigation equipment is kept on its separate spectrum cellular and drones are kept on a separate spectrum and that's the point of all this it's not to make life difficult for consumers it's just to make sure that everything coming in is you know going to be coordinated that you're not going to have interference between some guy operating a custom modem he bought on the internet and emergency response it wouldn't really happen because those are different frequencies but that's the purpose of a regulatory structure such as this excuse me I'm some chewing gum okay so saying that there is a quick oops wrong screen this thing is a quick mechanism for checking what is already approved so that you don't need to like do double work and it's also explaining that if you don't have something approved you can go and complete this form which I just did to see if there's any way I can try get that damn wireless intercom that got stuck the last people I spoke to were actually me so glad to take sure and they said because the customs guy never presented the request for sure it got stuck in some kind of bureaucratic black hole this is the class action lawsuit I've been invited to participate in so I just did this just out of curiosity if it will work I didn't want to order something new only to find that the request would be denied and I would just wait for more money attempting to get a wireless intercom in any event the video is explaining now how the form works and it's a six page form I just filled it out so I can tell you what kind of stuff it asked for in English in case this is helpful to people you it's going to ask you for basically so know the manufacturer I'm going to just make myself a little bit bigger here this is my first time I think I mentioned I'm doing like a few takes so I tend to like lose track of what I said in previous takes if I didn't already mention this is the first time I'm cropping myself in the webcam side of things so basically what you're going to need if you do want to do this form yourself which is could speed things up instead of doing it for the importer is you need to know the make and the manufacturer so whether you're bringing in a modem or let's say the wireless doorbell thing so at a minimum you should know the name of the manufacturer the name of the device one other tip that I would give again not as a customs pro but just as somebody who orders electronic gadgets aligned to Israel is what I frequently find good on websites like AliExpress is if there's an option not to include the batteries do that the batteries are considered a hazmat a hazardous material and you just create another possible point where things will go wrong if they're not properly labeled as hazmat so if there is like an option to not include batteries and source them locally that's typically what it will go for even though it's typically more expensive as well and the other thing you might need is a spec sheet so the purpose of this someone at Mibisrada Techshore they're just evaluating what frequency is being used and they're just going to check the spec sheet to make sure that what use that the information you're providing is accurate now how to find a spec sheet so you know if you're buying higher end equipment whether that's a some kind of wireless gear you can usually find that by searching for PDF so the way to do this one of the ways to do this is just going to show you quickly can be seven the ill-fated wireless doorbell and what it just did is just do file type PDF so that'll limit your search rules to PDF the reason I do this is because let's just look for another one like the gimbal I just got which I think would also be full under this legislation because technically it's a bluetooth device Ronin SC that's a gimbal by DJI go ahead and refresh this see what we've caught up here so there's a compatibility list and you might just find have a look through the various PDFs you can get on the internet there is a requirement that the file size be limited to four megabytes you might need to compress whatever PDF that you do locate in any event that's generally how I do it but what you can also do is just you know I've exported the product description from AliExpress where it has that section that talks about the wireless frequencies and in the case of this wireless intercom it said it's working over 2.4 GHz sorry 2.4 Wifi 801.11 BNG Wifi which is 2.4 GHz on the radio spectrum so you just need to research these things and look up the product descriptions data sheets that kind of stuff is what it's called and you'll generally find get something preferably official looking from the manufacturer that says it'll let the person of customs know exactly what it is that you're importing and how it works from a radio perspective where were we the nope that's my youtube that's my youtube ah yes so yeah I'm also asked for your your receipt so let's say you bought a you know a wireless microphone on AliExpress what you can do is just go and it's not going to come for a while and so what you can do is just you know send them the pro forma invoice if there's a field for an airway bill if you're doing something a bit more fancy and just you can attach those forms after you tell them the particular which is again what are you buying what is it is it an intercom is it a drone is it a router then the data sheets then the frequencies and I think that's about it but it is a pretty thorough process so that is basically the video Spain's artwork let me just show you before before I conclude over here so two things to show on my screen for a moment this is fun dealing with Israeli bureaucracy huh so this is a form as I said it's a six page form and as it also says you have fields basically for if you want to do a DIY approach the first question is the request what are you I tend to get the verbalization horrible when I'm just reading Hebrew and they're unfamiliar complicated words like these I know what they mean also word like a trade trade so you're a reseller basically one time import and so on so I'm not going to go through the whole form one thing I would point out is that they're often they leave an email address visible in the URL of these forms so you could probably send this address an email to follow up on your equipment it's just an idea what else so that's that that's the form and one final thing I do want to show is a resource that they have so if you go to Misrad Hatik Shored's the communication ministry just follow the link here from that from the from the website and what you can do there is a section here says you will see which means import of import of communications equipment okay so what you can do is click on this and the same same video is the same video you can see so you can see the point they're trying to make here look wireless doesn't mean just walkie talkies it can also mean wireless mice and same video and I can mean wireless keyboard it's pretty broad and I think it doesn't work through wired means so there's a section to this page that says it means important links in Hebrew and what you can see here is two good ones to know about so I'm going to read them off here you can see the the soft that received the sure the permit for resell use that's you got the shackle emoji next to the box sorry I'm reading from here so this is the items for personal import that received a sure from and they have them online here as a CSV or as a Excel Excel CSV is a comma separated values Excel Excel Excel spreadsheet format and there is also here and with this is where the X is these guys are not successful so you can see the ones that did get the sure and you can see the ones that didn't get the sure and the spirit of positivity let's go let's just take a quick look at those that did so if I want to go into the you can download these and this is on a website called data dot gov dot ill which is where the government releases data basically so you can click on the view icon let's say for this one and I can go in and actually see the data and it's organized if I move myself somewhere that won't disrupt this process like here you can see that it's organized by equipment type by by Yatran here is a manufacturer and Degam here is model so you can go through it and it's logically organized so these are the ones that did receive the sure so and the intercom section where you have products by Motorola, Shenzhen, Yuenbran, Hawaii and Google so I'm guessing I don't see my guy here I don't see the Ekin H7 whatever it's called Ekin something earlier so I'm guessing my ill-fated intercom just didn't make this or something so you can do that you can also download you can also filter the data and what you can do here is you can download also the XLSX and you can just open it up as a spreadsheet and just go through and you can see mechoniot shelet control mechanisms these are I think those are walkie-talkies if I'm not mistaken let's just take a look so you can really get under the hood of the customs people here and see what they have already approved and what not so that's quite good sorry jumping around between tabs so that's that and then the same process essentially for the ones that didn't receive you can look up Karthitsa Reshet sorry we're still on Chiquiblu Karthitsa Reshet we have network cards I'm not sure exactly what the modal is but you can look any of these up and see exactly what they are monitor I'm not sure that's a camcorder monitor etc etc etc and then you can cross check with the list Shalokiblu and again go into your XLSX format download it or view it online and you can even it even gives you ways to connect to it as an API and you can see again the ill-fated intercoms that were not approved and I'm not sure what the reasons are for this but so you can at least know where you stand that I guess if you have something that is on the approved list you can just go ahead and order there's no fear it's going to be stopped in customs you're going to pay for those custom brokerage and storage fees and if it's not then I guess you know not to order it and if it's in the indeterminate category either you or your customs agent can fill out the form by knowledge how I think this whole thing works so hope this video was useful interesting systems they have in Israel regarding everything bureaucratic I have not to date received my wireless doorbell but I think it's good that they do as much as this system is bureaucratic I think it's good that they communicate the reason and I think it's good that they liberate this data for public consumption so you can just go ahead and look up yourself on the customs website data.gov.il the data website you can just see for yourself what they've already allowed and what they've already restricted and proceed accordingly hope this video was useful thank you guys for watching if you'd like more videos on topics such as this living in Israel Linux technology wireless doorbells video equipment feel free to subscribe thanks for watching guys