 at a plan in my mind. I want to get retired at the age of 50, but I can't do that. I believe that before 55, I must do it. So it took me 10 years. So September 10th, I declared, I will no longer be the board chairman, and I left the management of Ali Group, which was, decision was made three years ago. So it was a gradual decision-making process. It is not something that appeared in my mind all of a sudden, which was not responsible for myself, for my company as well. So it takes me a lot of time for the preparation. On the student, we still feel very curious, how about you retire after two years or two years ahead of this time? And what might be the difference to you and to your company? If two years ago, I was not ready, the company was not ready either. After two years, maybe I will not want to leave because of a very strong emotion bond. Well, we need to think about several questions. It's not that company can't leave you. Instead, it's you can't leave your company. You don't know what to do. You are at loss at the age of 54, just 54 years old. I think that in internet, I am a little bit older, but it's still young for other industries or businesses. Maybe after another 15 to 16 years, I can do something else. But once after 55 to 56 or even 60 years old, you know, people have a habit. You try to cling to something. You have no guarantee to the future. You have to stay with your office. Therefore, beyond 56, people say, okay, company can't leave without you. Organization can't leave without you. Instead, it's not a company. It's you who cannot leave the company. We must know ourselves what you can do, what you can't do. And what is the ultimate goal of your life? And we often say that we know our life at the age of 50. Beyond 50, we should get clear what we want. Exactly what we need to get, what we need to give up. What is something that you should own, something you don't. Once these things are clear in your mind, it's not difficult or trouble to make such a decision. And it is surprising to us, at least to our view, you choose to retire at the age of 54, which is believed to be young. Look at your friends within your community, no matter it's Ren Zhengfei or Mr. Zheng Rui-ming. And even 20 years older than you, they are still fighting in the business cycle. Mr. Cao De-Wang several days ago decided to declare retirement in September, but he said he made a new statement that decided to delay his retirement. So do you think your decision, do you feel it is a tiring decision? Anyway, I think I'm quite good. I'm quite good with my position, with my decision. And many people think that, okay, they may think about the same question in their mind at the age of 54. I keep mentioning this, I don't want to die in my office. And if I can die on the sea, along the seaside, and on the sand, I will feel very, very, very happy. I prefer dying on the beach. And I'm here not to, for the career, you are born to experience, to try different things, to enjoy your life. I should say that I was, I used to be a teacher. So it's quite, at least I was not trained a business people and with the social trends and the guarantee of the team, I had a very good luck, but you know good luck can't be with you all the time. We need to extend the luck. If you want to do so, you need to offer the opportunities to other people. You need to offer more opportunities to others, which means you give yourself more chances. You know that in the future, I believe it will be very good. And a lot of things I show great interest in the past 20 years, actually I feel petty, I did not have the time and capability of doing so. But today, I have time, I have the opportunity, I'm capable of developing these new things. I really want to show this to the business sectors. You know that in China, in Asia actually, and never saying giving up and keep working and fighting for the age of 80 or 90 years old, I don't think it is necessary. Look at the other countries. You know that the entrepreneurs, the startup company, owners are very old, have white hairs, but you know, you, it's kind of a step back from these strong wave. I should say that in this strong trend in the times, and I try to take steps forward, and I don't think it is a step backward. And by my own personality, I will have no rest. And even though I retire from my company, but it's a big step in my life, I have more time to do something I show great interest in such as education, environment, startup entrepreneurship, especially in the entrepreneurship spirit. I used to look down upon the business people and after 20 years of running on my own company, company economy, a great contributor to the country. And we would say that strong military countries are powerful, but I believe that good business, good economy will make a country very powerful and good understanding of the business and the business people and the good understanding of the economy, which are highly important. And after 20 years, and we can have a very objective understanding and try to spread out that message to the society. Well, after your declaration of your retirement, a lot of gases on you, you know, what is the most absurd or the worst expectation on your retirement? Do you want to make it clarify here? Well, we have a lot of speculations and the gases in the market. There are so many gases and speculations and I should say that they are entrepreneurs or and if you try new things, you keep experimenting. And you know some gossip and rumors, sad backs and the sufferings are all along with the journey. Therefore, people like myself in the, we need to learn to try to swim and survive in the ocean of gossips. How is your swimming in such a wave? Do you think it is good? Well, I try to stay, keep my head above the sea level. And sometimes we feel sad. We feel frustrated. My family members do not like it. All kinds of rumors yesterday evening, I received a lot of messages from the entrepreneurs, my friends, and they say that there are a lot of rumors because you shifted 120 billion RMB to other countries. So you are ready to run away. People love, right? You have to concern. You have to worry. Well, so we have different angles looking at the same problems. We have different understanding of it from different angles. If you want to cope with it, it makes you very tired. If they are friends of you, you don't need to explain. If they are not your friends, the more you say, the worse the case is. I think that we need to learn to swim in the ocean of gossips. Just now we proposed the first question on why you decided to choose, retire on the age of 54. The second question comes up, why you choose Zhang Yong. And in your heart, so is he consistently the right candidate? This is a good question in the development of Ali Group. For so many years, I keep asking myself this question, why Ali Group always has this right luck and fortune because we really want to drive the social progress and we are inspired to enable the small business on our platform. We also want to grow our employees in their career path. And those who didn't learn MBA or commercial or business series, why we can develop to this far because I used to be a teacher. I didn't know marketing and I had no idea of technology. I had a loss at my financial accounts and the only thing make my into a successful businessman is my teaching background. I choose my students, I train my students, I cultivate my students and the most of my time was spent on identifying the talents, train them and cultivate them in Ali Group. My top pride was not our business model, instead today, our hierarchy of our talents, the organizational structure, the culture development, we have developed a group of them. And in the year of 2000, we know that it was the bubble of the internet and you develop the e-commerce in that kind of time. People think it was not a good company. And I said that in Ali Group, in the future we will have a lot of good talents, good-looking girls and good-looking gentlemen and with skills. And we really want to have that talent several years ago. But now I believe the building of the hierarchy is so good and Zhang Yun and in our talent hierarchy is one of the top leaders. I believe we have very good talents and I think we already have the fifth generation of the candidates leaders in the preparation, in the pipeline and only when the predecessors are ready and I believe it is possible and Zhang Yun is not works on his own, he also has his own team. I want to draw your attention to this and the team is different from teamwork. You know that in China we used to emphasize the group interest but the team is a different concept. The team means you are supplementary to each other. You want to support others' success. Why we can make success today is not my own success. It's my team's success. I have a good team. I have Zhang Yun. I have Jingxian Dong and Mr. Cai Chongxin. I also Peng Lei. I have a very strong lineup of talents behind the next to me and Zhang Yun behind Zhang Yun there's also a strong lineup of the talents but they have different skills but among these skills Zhang Yun has something I don't have such as systematic thinking, sober mind. You know that startup entrepreneurs have a great anger sometimes. Sometimes we can't curb our temper but in such a time, such an age we need to have systematic logic thinking and it's my advantage is something not owned by Zhang Yun but Zhang Yun has strength which is above us and especially when company is such a large one we need systematic, organized plus very strong leadership and the strong sense of responsibility. So in this aspect, Zhang Yun is the right candidate. In Zhang Yun, we see something very special at his position of CFO and he was fabulous and you said that I fear nothing, I just fear CFO become CEO. If you review this, what you said it is you change your mind or Mr Zhang Yun changes? I think both of us are changing and in the past I was quite the experience was quite interesting and I think three types of people within the company I said that we will not promote them I said that at early group we have 18 founding partners and we can't take up senior executive positions because we are not very weak in our capabilities they used to be our students who cannot find work in the past and the 18 people were now in the media proved to be very strong but you know, 20 years ago and if they want to interview with the early group they cannot get include and I always believe that external staff are more, the external candidates are stronger than us however we find out the newly recruited people sometimes do not have the persistence do not believe in the future and these 18 people keep working consistently we find out that after several rounds of experiences as well as the tests and just like the farmers raised the cows and the cows growing quickly and the 18 people you know that we have a strong will we have a strong will because we experience all kinds of ups and downs you know the newcomers are stronger than us in their knowledge, capabilities and skills once we give them time they will give us a new success and 18 founders know, Chinese know, MBA know and the Taiwan people know, why Taiwan people know so it's kind of you know prejudice against them and the Taiwan people they tell jokes, they bow jokes they do nothing and the CFO, Cai Chongqing is from Taiwan you know he has a really sober mind so I take it away, I change my mind Shanghai needs who wishes to become a professional manager and I do not like them I do not like this position because in a company we need a leader we do not want to follow the procedures if we follow procedures why we do need you why do we need you as a manager we need to have process and also in parallel to process we are ready to take bold steps Mr. Zhang You is Shanghai needs he is also a professional manager well, so you choose him to correct your view several years ago CFO is a very interesting position I believe that he has a risk mindset to take the most safe path which is the first guarantee of a good and qualified CFO in decision making CFO would choose the most safe way but in the past decades development of Ali Group every time we made a decision we made decision among so many risks so CFO could not become our CEO and actually a very top CFO maybe it is difficult for him to become a CEO but Mr. Zhang You and Jin Xiandong and one is the chairman of and financial service group the other one is the CFO of Ali Group both of them are bold enough to take steps they want to change themselves they dare to do so and my progress in recent years are very evident some of my views are changed because we find them is not correct and that's why I said I was making progress and Mr. Zhang is also working out of his own circle as a CFO so both of you are changing and in Mr. Zhang You, you do see the qualification as a CEO for Ali Group how about the feeling of Zhang You in the past 11 years he lived in hotels, you know again you give the extra burden to him he cannot go back to his home for rest well, in order to persuade him to become the board chairman in the recent two years whenever I have a moment I will try to push with him and the day he agreed I feel so much touched I know that to become the Ali Group board chairman was a difficult decision is no longer a commercial decision it was not only business decision such a big organization the sophistication of the business is out of the expectation the scale of our group is so enormous in China especially we are driven by our vision and mission and that is to make the business facilitated in the earth you notice something we often think about which is not thought about by other companies you might have a sleepless night you have no time for sleep and he has this... he promised to do so and what if he has some problem and he cannot want to do it will you come back? I said if he can't do that, that's it I will not come back because I don't think I'm leaving anyway retirement doesn't mean that I leave Ali Group upon the call of Ali Group I will respond to it but I will not do as a board chairman or as a CEO I'm a shareholder of Ali Group I'm the partner to this organization I am a permanent employee of Ali Group I also talk about it internally if you are an employee of Ali Group your time belongs to Ali Group you know as an average employee 12 hours of the day belong to Ali Group if you are director or the VP 24 hours belong to Ali Group if you are the partner your life belongs to Ali Group even if you leave and this is... we agreed and so it's no concept of leaving but being a CEO or chairman you basically like for a country have a military power but for me, I don't want that anymore if I go back upon the call then perhaps my... I'm very happy to give my advice but I will not return to the chairman position now if you look back in the history many founders said they would retire but when emergencies arise they would go back to the frontier line do you think that will happen to you in the future as... although you said you won't but do you think it's possible? well, it is... troubling that's why I've been preparing for this for the past several years I believe that founders are like parents to a kid now if your child grows up maybe you are very helpful in a primary... when he's in the primary school but when the kid goes to the university you as a parent can't help much you need to push him to the real reality to expose him to all the realities challenges in his life now when there is a challenge, you as a parent you will be there to support him or her but you can't make all the decisions for your child that's the same thing here with my... with Ali Baba we are here so that we want to prevent crisis from happening we have daily operations and communication so for Daniel Zhang for Mr. Jin we talk on a constant basis we basically like consultants we're very happy to give our advice but we do not plan I do not plan to go back and take the decision in the future because I've planned for my next 15 years what other kids I would have maybe these kids, they are younger so they need me more and for Ali Baba it has an ecosystem it's a system, it's got its own way of doing business so that's why I have a plan for not going back not coming back but that's because to some reason I don't plan to leave at all because I'm always with Ali Baba when there is a problem I'm very happy to talk but they will take the decision, not me you... if for example if I don't care about Ali Baba if you say that I don't think that's true nobody will believe that I love deeply Ali Baba because it's my own kid even if I die someday I still love it deeply in my 80s or 90s maybe I'm on the beach I listen to the radio and the news says that Ali Baba does wonderfully I will be profoundly happy because I've devoted the best 10 years and 20 years of my life to the group and this is a kid I brought up 15 years ago until this day maybe way in the future I will be very happy that it's successful I understand that you've been preparing for this for the past 10 years but I think the market is not ready now as you said when you announced that you plan to retire the share price went down for 3.7% I think 15.5 billion market valuation the market is not very happy or confident or fully prepared for Ali Baba without Jack Ma so with that have you talked with Daniel on this? I talk to him every day but we haven't really mentioned this very much of course if everybody quickly gets used to me not being in Ali Baba then there will be a problem it means that I'm not that important now if you are not in Ali Baba how do you get the salary? so what I mean is that of course I value in Ali Baba it's like again a kid you breastfeed your child and then you will switch to formula so in this transition of course there will be discomfort but after a while the kid will be okay so I think for a short period of time you need to get used to this with some pain and discomfort but then the market after a while the market, the company everybody will get used to it it's not that once the baby is crying you will give him or her whatever he wants that's not the way out very well so as you said on the market's feedback to you during your talk you will have your feedback you will react to that in your own way I talked to you in a back room that for example the WIC and the Yunxi conference and including this conference and for the past several days aside from going to these conferences it also introduced Ping Tou Ge that is the Chinese nickname for Honey Badger this is perhaps the first time for many people to hear about this animal so why do you plan to have an IC chip company? well for this company it does not need to find its own mission its corporate culture, its structure is quite there but the thing for it is that you need to innovate you need to change yourself according to the changing environment so what you said is right because in the past several days I get even busier including the heads of states and governments of other countries they called me trying to find out what's going on and all of them are very happy for example Keen or retired former presidents and after they hear that I'm doing charity work they're very happy they think that together we can do something nice so I'm very happy that I've got friends who care about me and there are also suspicions as you said because they say that because you want to go to abroad because of the pressure maybe the economy is not going well these are all suspicions so for right now I want the priority is for the stable development of the group I've got good team work good talents I will enhance the consolidate the corporate culture structure this is the first second I need to find something that of my own as you said the IC chip company I announced this today which means that of course we've been preparing below this we've been preparing for this for five years it is not that we have a problem now and they're set up a company things are not done in this way I announced today it means that I've been preparing this for the previous several years and the Jack Ma Foundation is here for five years five years ago we started to do our work so every step in the past several years we've been planning for the future so for any company if you do not plan for the future you'll be more and more exhausted you are solving problems of today and then you'll have new problems tomorrow so you need to think ahead you need to anticipate of the ten problems in the future you can detect and solve seven problems then maybe you'll have a better future so for me along that logic I think the culture of Alibaba is that we live for the future we live for the belief because we believe in the future we can see how the future will form this is the very culture of our group now you mentioned believing you mentioned anticipating it we're looking at the economic outlook many entrepreneurs are now under great pressure they want to know the outlook for future so what do you think the economic outlook and for entrepreneurs what do they need to do now being an entrepreneur in my experience the economic outlook is always problematic for us for example if you look at the past forty years of government economic conference every year it will say that we've got complex and problematic economic outlook it's always there the sentence because if the outlook is good then the competition will be awfully fierce if the economic outlook is not perfect then you'll have good competition so there's two sides of everything now if the outlook is problematic then it means this is the right timing to have a great company when everything's fine then you'll have mediocre companies but when you have headwinds and if a company can live then this is a great company now for many companies you've got scale right now and for any of those they must have weathered economic problems natural disasters, man-made disasters and it is only after a company overcomes all these problems then it becomes greater and greater so the resilience of companies is very much it's like a boxer you need to have offensive power but you also need to defend yourself to weather all the problems along the way if you look at Alibaba from our perspective we know for a fact that we are under blow for a lot of times more than other company I would think so the economic outlook it's not perfect of course and it will last longer than many people expect but we need to think about it we need to plan ahead and we need to plan everything in a worse scenario than the reality being confident means that I don't think blindly if the future is perfect but we can still live in a not perfect future now on manufacturing you said in 15 years time they will have more problems technological innovation, China-US trade frictions and transformation and upgrading of our economic structure and your internal and external pressure of companies all these things and including all the changing landscape in the world they are all there so I think the outlook as I said is not perfect and will not be perfect but even with not perfect outlook you'll have great companies even with a perfect outlook you'll have lousy companies so the thing is about your perspective you need to do the right thing in the right time yesterday I went to the entrepreneurs' clubs meeting and also the Zhejiang Merchants Business Association last year I talked to the entrepreneurs I said in the next several years you don't need to do a lot of things but you need to do something right and something that makes you happy that's exactly what I mean about the outlook if you have in whatever you are doing you don't only focus on the low-hanging fruit I was in Yunxi Conference yesterday I talked to many entrepreneurs about an op-story three kids out in the storm and the father said you brought something back out and for the elderly kid he was equipped and the second one he had an umbrella and the third one he had nothing but for the first kid they all hurt themselves in some way but the third kid he didn't equip himself with a Macintosh or umbrella but he brought the same back so for the first kid he was avoiding all the storm and for the second kid too but for the third kid he said I found a cave and I stayed there for some time and the storm would pass and then I would bring the thing back so that's the same logic as I said in a bad time you can still do the right things and a good time you can still do the good things you can still succeed we're not happy with the US trade US-China trade frictions but on this as I said you need to plan for the next twenty years whatever the US would do we will have our own solutions based on our principles no matter what you say how angry you are Mr. President Trump doesn't know about that so what you can do what you can change is the things you plan and you choose to do of course you're in a lousy outlook that is possible but that's the same case for your competitors as well you have financing problems it's the same case with your competitors so as I said you don't need to do a zillion things but you need to do something right so for Jack Ma what will you plan to do in the future this is something that we've all been talking about in your open letter after you released it and online there's a business card online business card of Jack Ma that is a summary of what you wrote in priority order so aside from your name and also the title Teacher under that you'll have some other titles I will read it out for you the first one is a man from Zhejiang the first employee of Alibaba partner of Alibaba and the first charitable work of Alibaba a poverty alleviation foundation founder all of these titles so you can see that a lot of things are still related to Alibaba and charity work if I ask you to design your own business card what will you write it makes me sort of sad because my name Jack Ma looks like IP it doesn't belong to me at the first place because when I mentioned Jack Ma you've got your own definition of Jack Ma but that's not me entirely for me I'm still an ordinary person who was born and raised in Hangzhou I became an entrepreneur in Hangzhou I don't think I'm legendary or someone of significance so I created some this and that it's not entirely me so I'm sure there are many labels but for me I think as an ordinary person I'm very lucky in the past several years I chose the right time and right friends and together with a lot of hard work after 20 years we arrived at where we are right now but we understand from deep down that with Alibaba its relations with Jack Ma is there but it's not that close so for me I still need to be me to do the things I like you mentioned Pingtou Ge the chip company the Honey Badger after I named this company Pingtou Ge a friend next to me said that you are a Honey Badger indeed and the reason I'm I'm fascinated about this animal is that this fearless he doesn't care this animal he doesn't care who's my who my opponent is just give me the time and location I will be there and I'll fight him no matter what so this is like us like me in the past 20 years and this is the spirit the value you have you should have deep rooted in a entrepreneur and also the team of course you will be a brilliant person but that's that's that's what you have and that's all but with a team you can do much better something much bigger so if you're asking me about my own business card I will still write education on it by educating I can reflect my understanding of life my life philosophy I can reflect all the interesting things I've met in the past 20 years all the interesting person significant people for example the founder of professor of Davos professor Schwab after so many years of perseverance building a magnificent platform I met Obama, Putin and Chinese leaders and a lot of fascinating entrepreneurs Warren Buffett Bill Gates and so on so forth and also very eccentric people there are full of plenty of them and also Mr. Wang Ling Li Yi I've met with them talked with them so for me living here on this planet is an opportunity for me to know these people to know these brilliant people of all varieties good people bad people great people and that is my nutrition and as a teacher I can think about it why these people appear in our history and I want to share this with more people for my university and entrepreneurs in my university the reason where there is that we need to know about other people but more importantly we need to know about ourselves we need to know how imperative it is to learn from the great people and also you can't be devastated because of the bad news in the world you can be sad for one day and tomorrow is another day you still need to be motivated to work hard and live hard for the next day we need to think of ways to come up with solutions to all the challenges to all the unperfect imperfect things to be the honey badger in your life this I think is the essence of education being you not being Jack Ma and don't imitate anybody just be yourself that's very important so in the business card maybe you want to write Jack Ma teacher that's all is that the case you want to go back to the things that you started with education is about future and it's about those who are educated about their future I still remember that in previous occasions you said that you we need to look at the future with all and respect this is the right attitude so we're standing from where we are now with kind of preparations you've been doing for entrepreneurs for enterprises for yourself for the time talking about the future we should give a high attention to it especially get prepared for the third or the so-called force industrial technological revolution I believe such a revolution of internet will be very fast in its pace have a great change to all the business sectors and individuals if you cannot properly handle the industrial revolution may lead to a consequence of the social revolution this is the responsibility of everyone of us here to make everybody get adaptive to the revolution so that the kids are enabled to respond to the future challenges actually the battle is started many people is a fair ring a losing their jobs because of technology or AI so many fears on their mind I believe that fears make you feel more depressed we need to stand right the front of the challenge is the right way to do it first of all we need to develop education do more things for public good and in early group it's not possible for me to get away from it and I will keep communicating with the early group of staff and more importantly I need more some time for my happy things you know that I can't even so I know that in education I feel very happy and for the public goods I like it and I want to go to Africa to and also want to protect the environment but also there are more interest things in my mind well and you know it's like it's like you are really around our curiosity so please pick the top the top top thing you want to do among so many things probably I will make my own wine I believe wine is culture you know the wine in China is people just want to drink more but instead of tasting try to taste the wine we need to taste it not long ago I was in multi group the chairman of multi said that the young people don't drink the multi which is Baizhou or the white liquor they drink something else I said no don't worry about it when they are 45 years old they will come back to you after death and survival and after suffering and happiness they will know it you know French wine are romantic and also the Swiss wine are also special we need to taste all kinds of wines and also the yellow wine from Shaoxing is also very good and you know the in the Sweden the news make me feel very frustrated you know China is complicated you know 100 million people going out to the other countries the plateness the manners and you we need to talk about it with the westerners you know the Chinese kids seldom say thank you excuse me or sorry or please we we need to pick up our minors otherwise the conflict between China and the rest of the world will on the rise we will have more conflicts and the frictions I believe that by instead of educating or propaganda we need to incorporate that into something interesting and try to educate how to pick up it and well China is at a critical moment in facing to the future this year is the 40th anniversary of China's reformed opening up China has a deeper integration with the world with more dialogue between China and the rest of world well in your view what is the value of brains by China brought by China to the world and what are the value brought by the world to China well to me any nation any country has something a special exclusive to itself so I'm sitting in my home looking at the world you know it's not a possible to have a very right outlook on the world before I went to Africa I believe Africa is a less developed place with poverty but when I was there I feel a lot it's kind of imagination before you were there you read about it from the media from the news if there is buyers of the media you know that your decision is not right I believe that going out you need to look at the world only by showing respect to the ethnic groups and the cultures your life will become more interesting and you know that there is difference between cultures the westerners are very straightforward in the Bible it is very clear you follow the words of the world just like a very good quality sales guidebook but China is quite different and that we are focused on the for the we have differences in the opinions and difficult to understand subjective things but you know that China emphasized on harmony, harmony gives you fortune but in western culture competition makes you better without communication without communication and respect or appreciating others you only have troubles and conflicts on your hands you know that in China you have your motivation and different ideas behind what you say you know between China and the east we can talk about it you know so the two different cultures we talk about it only when you go to different countries you listen to others we are saying the same thing but we do things in a different manner and we need more dialogue like this foreign like this we need to see more similarly is not useful today after three days you learn nothing but some kind of ideological change and we'll have a big impact on you and on your kids I believe China of course will bring value to the world and also we need to use in international language a exacted language to talk to the world also the westerners need to know China focuses on wisdom but western world focuses on knowledge and this is the knowledge this is knowledge this is wisdom so this is the combination of the heart and the mind thank you thank you Jack Ma well I think our time is up we only have the last question as we can see and probably um Feng Qingyang is leaving away from this from the from the Jianghu or from the from the market and of course we will still have the the stories of him and when we are still calling upon to meet with Feng Qingyang and what do you want to say to him well we always have the world no or and we have a lot of heroes are coming up in it and it's not it's not the world is changing but your capabilities are not improved and in the world of rivers and lakes and the competitions every once capability are making progress without progress you cannot survive the most important thing in it is that you come up with all kinds of good things and arrivals and the chances and the coincidence therefore when I am away from the business but I keep my attention on it I'm part of it I will do something else in other sectors I also find it highly interesting I believe that those you can have some psychological preparation sometimes we miss you even though you are away and it is also very feeling no matter the glamour when you show up or it's kind of a graceful manner when you leave the stage and it's kind of in the world is something impression it's the impression we will leave in our memory and we give our blessings to you and the last thing we we have a nice time dialogue we have a nice communication between you and