 Welcome back on the ChaosZone channel at the remote chaos experience. And this is our penultimate talk of the first day. And it's about a very urgent issue, and that is climate change. And due to climate change, we of course all want to protect the climate. And that is something that local authorities have to deal with as well, and local communities, and in order to not let everyone do their own thing or compel them to do their own thing but help. Some people have developed a framework that is the local emission framework. Climate protection at your door. And that's what they want to introduce. The talk will also be translated to English, and therefore you should choose the audio channel too. And with that, enjoy the talk. And I'll see you again for the questions and answers. Hi, I'm Johannes. And where are you from? I'm from Krefeld, Mühlheim, Chemnitz, Oldenburg, Bielefeld. I'm Jan from Appelhuizen. And Jan, are you interested in climate protection? Yes, of course. Very important. Climate protection is very important to me. Do you know what protection measures there are in your city of Krefeld? Locally? Do you know anything? No, I can't think of anything. No, actually I can't. I don't really know anything directly. No? No? I think I knew if anything was happening. I would know. Hi, I'm Niklas. And as you can see, climate protection at your door is quite a tricky thing sometimes. And to be honest, about one year ago I felt very much the same as the people that you've just seen in the video there. I was sitting at home. You can see the kitchen in my flat chair here. And I was thinking, well, climate protection right here, how does that work? My feeling was that it doesn't work the right way. It just bleeds. It goes in the wrong direction. And I had exams where I would think, no, it's not working so well. And at the same time I thought I had certain activism inside me. Local elections were coming up. And so there was a kind of planlessness and activism. And I was doing what I would then do, talk with my friends. And I realized quickly that maybe I don't seem to know enough. I don't have the required knowledge to get active. And then in that kind of situation there are two options. One, I just go to sleep and forget about the whole thing. Or I wake up in the next morning and still think I should do something. And that is what happened. In this case, I still wanted to do something. So I thought, okay, I need more information. What is the situation like? So let's just get an overview of things. How does it work at the local level? Because I am from the city of Münster in western Germany, North Rhine-Westphalia. I went to our city's website and I then found this thing. Our climate 2030 master plan, 100% climate protection. That sounded very good. And there was this logo that they used. And there was this seal as well from the National Climate Protection Initiative. And I thought, okay, this looks good. Maybe I do not really have to worry. You have the Ministry, the Federal Ministry behind it supporting this top. And if I want more information, then you would then go and click on those links. For example, this master plan, a PDF. Sadly, not accessible PDF full of information. And I think that is where most people would exit the whole thinking. But not me. I am a teacher's child. That's where I actually start to get going as I downloaded the thing. I actually downloaded it several times. It's sad that I don't have a click counter. I don't know how many of the overall downloads were down to me. So I downloaded this and read it all. And this is how it looks. As a first impression, this is a book of contents. Those 29 megabytes are translated into 190 pages of compressed information. And what I saw from reading it for the first time, I realized that the header says 2050. So it used to say, it did say 2030 on the website. And suddenly a shift to 2050. So you smell the conspiracy. Suddenly maybe things aren't as good as I seemed at first. But there is a reason. Munster actually resolved a catalogue of measures and targets for 2050. And that was then further sharpened by another town council resolution saying that the targets were set for 2050. We want to reach by 2030. But that document wasn't updated. Apparently that's how it goes. And if you look further into that master plan, you are overwhelmed by things like this wonderful, these targets here. So the energy consumption is to be reduced by 50%. Carbon house, sorry, greenhouse gases by 95%. It all reads very well. It fits the Paris court goals. And I read the whole thing. I was kind of reassured and I reached more information to find such as this wonderful diagram here, which administrative government offices love. This is a virtual power station here, power plant of the city of Munster. So it's all in thought through. I'm sure it has had scientific accompaniment as well. And there is a lot of thinking as you can notice. And that I found very interesting. And what I found particularly interesting is that at the end of the whole master plan. And I think this master plan is a good example for many cities, that they have designed. And at the end, you normally find a list of measures. Here is an example measure. So climate neutral administration, the town as a role model. And it's described as a very nice project. You have a description of stakeholders. You have a budget. You have various maps and these cards for all the various measures. That's what you get. And now we've reached page 151 of this whole PDF. And I found that because I was searching for it. And most people probably won't get that far. That's not to say I'm not using this as a rant against the city of Munster. It's great that they came up with such a plan and put it up into as a PDF to download. I found partners I could contact immediately and people that deal with the issue exclusively. But most people probably don't know. I've been living in the city for a long time. I think I can say I've been interested in this for a long while, but I never knew that this existed. And if I hadn't searched for it directly, I would never have known about it. And you could say, okay, that's how it goes with town, cities, administrations in Germany. It's not a scandal. It's the slow way they work. And I would say that the problem in this case is that sadly we don't have that much time. Targets are good and well, but you have to start implementing them at some point. And because there is a huge social transformation that this entails, you really have to carry everyone along. So all citizens should be informed. And if you don't do that, you run the risk of something like this happening. We have a group here in the neighboring place, Ludinghausen, which protested against the wind power monsters as they called it. And if you have a problem like that, single protest isn't that bad, but often there is a wave of legal action coming after it as well. And that leads to the whole action plan being implemented much later or not at all. And that is a huge problem if you have a lot of time pressure. Also to put it in a positive sense, if I can manage to get all the citizens to follow along, then I might actually have more support from civil societies, kind of support that I had not expected in the first place. And maybe that would help us to reach the goals better or earlier. And there are examples for that too. For example, there was a climate training that the city of Münster put on and a journalist from the local paper heard about it and reported about it and put an article into his paper and he reached a lot of readers that way. And that had a multiplication effect and that is wonderful. So to summarize, you would want a communication platform that works between the municipalities and the citizens. And we want an effective and highly informative program that reaches a civil society that is interested and is in favor of change but doesn't really know what the town is planning. So to summarize, you would like a standardized open framework for digital communication of climate protection targets and measures, which should be updated as it goes along. So these are the thoughts that I had. And I then naively put those to paper and sent it to the prototype fund and asked whether perhaps we could build something like that. And they said, okay. And what has come of that one year and two months later is what I'm going to show you now. Right. The solution we found for this problem is called the local emission framework. And what we found important here is that these two sites that Niklas talked about, the interested citizens on the one and the towns and communes and administrations on the other side should be connected through a portal that is as simple as possible. And let's look at it from the point of view of the interested citizen first. So if I want to find out about my city, I can search for it on this map. I can also search for it in this search entry. And the idea in the way this is presented is that it is ordered according to main questions. The first question here, what targets has my city, Leipzig in this case, set itself? And there is a nice timeline that you can use to find out about these targets, 2030, maybe 2050, whatever, whatever targets they set. And that is augmented by the actual information and the time that the actual decision was made and whether it's been implemented, whether it's been updated and things like that. And even more importantly, you have the measures, the individual steps and as probably became clear already, a very long plan is very hard to get all the information from such a long document. But here you can quite easily display it and you can think for yourself whether the targets and the measures to implement those targets actually match and are they enough to reach that target or do I think that more should happen from my city or from my municipality? Here are some of the direct external data sources from the German weather service. Here it's about the weather data. This is about weather data and the data is integrated into the framework half-automatic. For example, warming stripes are possible and you can configure it in a flexible way. And in theory, you can have more widgets here that are specific. Overall, it was important just that the cities are comparable, that the display of cities is comparable. You can compare the goals of Münster with data. This was from the view of a dedicated person. How does it look if you're an organizational member in different regions? You can get an account and have possibilities to link multiple regions. For example, you can link the region of Cologne. You have what you see is what you get. Interface, you can add and delete measures or update them. And you can have widgets for weather data or for communal elections and configure them easily by selecting your data source here. It was important to us that we will not go into concurrence to other existing solutions. Many communes have very good web presences and web portals. And therefore, it is possible to use single widgets here from external websites by selecting widgets here and getting the code to add it into a design of your open source. The project understands itself as an open source and is an accessible framework so that not each city has to build their own technical solution and start building their own climate portals and develop them. And therefore, exactly this work shouldn't be done in parallel. And that's why we wanted to do this with this project, a local emissions framework once centralized and offered to communes and cities. On such a project where it's a lot about data collection and data presentation, there are a lot of questions which we are discussing and are ongoing that we keep discussing. And of course, we have the question, where are the data coming from? Do we need support to interpret the data? And how far do you want to be active yourself and participate? Does the community or city already have measures that are enough or you can let the data speak for itself? And we want to give people the possibility to view data easily. We want citizens to make their own thoughts and conclusions. And the question about how can we participate in this, what are the next steps? We are happy if more people talk about the LEF or the organization members or citizens. Also the contact to communes and cities and this is important because that's where the data is usually already collected in a good way. And we ask ourselves how can we best integrate them through interfaces into the LEF. But of course, there's a lot of coding to do for LEF. LEF leads a lot of love and we are happy about contributions. And the LEF wants to stay a place where people can help us with their abilities and we are happy about each person that contributes to our project. That was it for the local emissions feedback framework. We're happy about feedback and we are thanking you for your attention. For now I welcome from the speakers Philip. Hello. Exactly. And the first question that was asked is do you know examples where the connection to civil society was implemented already? As far as I understand the question this is about whether there are other projects following the same route. As we've seen earlier there are related projects that pursue the same targets to make data more accessible. And it works very well. And we again see us in the role of an interface between the various projects because the data that is to be put into LEF has been collected in these other projects as well. And we can work together very well in that regard. And the LEF can then more focus on the visual presentation and simplification. And we have a kind of a journalist's role here to get people that haven't been so deeply in the issue to get them involved and get the issue to them. We have projects like Frack in Start. We have seen that on the organizational side. You have some negative stance towards the project that happened to you or did you have other experiences? Until now the communes that we work with were very interested. And we have seen that it meets the need because they already started recognizing the problem. And you could see that in the long PDFs. And we can get to an easy display there that is accessible to everyone. And there's a lot of interest for that. I can imagine there are some defensive stances when it's going on to the direction of the city XY does too little. And we try to not be the place for asking the question of where does more or less have to be done. And we want to offer the information part. And there is little need or reason for fear on the sides of communes because it's just a better display of things that are already being done, showing them and making them more visible. And it is in the interest of communes and cities to be in contact with the citizens. And we hope that it will stay that way. I have an anecdote I could add here in a few years ago. There was a project when people visualized data from households and from budgets, local budgets, and that was public data too, of course, city budget. And it was hard to get cities, to give communes cities to publish their data in that way. And from my community, there is this citizens budget that they can vote on. They can decide whether side road A or side road B should be renovated. And that, of course, don't propose this from the administration. Of course, you have to look at it. And we had rather a feeling of being a part of the organization of the LEF. We had certain flexibility in which data being shown when communes have data, and we can show them in a way where you can compare them. And it's not very useful to force communes to send us incomplete data. We try to offer them lots of flexibility and so that communes can use it as a communication tool for themselves. And they are low. And the long-term goal of LEF is, of course, for example, lots of communes have events where you can bring people together for talking about what has to be changed in traffic or... Yeah. Yeah, it sounds very interesting. And I hope that you have a very good result with that. And we have run out of questions as well. So the only thing that remains for me is to say thank you and wish you a good success. Yeah, thank you. And thanks for listening to the translation for this talk. On this channel, the next talk will be at 10.30 in just over 30 minutes' time. And the talk will be the digger occupation and hashtags against capitalism. See you then. And don't set any diggers on fire until then. And we'll see you. Yes. And thanks for listening to the interpretation. I hope you enjoyed it. You can give us feedback using the hashtag C3lingo on Twitter and master. And we hope that you will spread the news that you have English-language interpretation here for the many German talks. Your interpreters were Severlis and Koo. We'll see you soon.