 and Charles and I'm Linda Quinlan and welcome to all things LGBTQ today is Tuesday April 23rd and we're here to give you the news and interviews and you want to start chit chat chit chat there we are and she rehearsed that right so what I've got for you is the legislature they think they're gonna adjourn by that camera by May 17th without Zach we're useless so they're in the their sort of final month and we'll talk a little bit about what seems to be moving what's not what we may want to watch Nevada's looking at doing some fairly interesting things health and human services on the federal level not so good things we'll talk a little bit about that and we got news from Aaron Marcus who has been a guest on the show on several occasions we have talked a lot about the contra dancing that's the first third and fifth Saturdays of the month they were doing a project of Larkson Ravens gender-free dancing they've made it official by unanimous vote it will be totally a gender-free contra dance as of January of 2020 and they're transitioning into it now here here and this week's trivia question which and got on the first try from page out the mountains April 1999 they were reporting on House Bill 479 that had 56 sponsors that's a lot this was a bill to prohibit something what was it prohibiting I know well my headlines involve Kenya's first lesbian pastor Northern Ireland warns the slain journalist Lyra McKee Aaron Dadee Kachu and Manaka Garoswami two Indian public interest litigators the Supreme Court also in India dismisses a police seeking civil rights for homosexuals Colombian same-sex couples hold a kiss-a-thon in support of LGBT rights arise in homophobic hate crimes in Paris lesbians hold a conference in Kiev despite counter-protests the court puts equal marriage on hold in the Cayman Islands which is following the path of a muta apparently finally the Sultan of Brunei's honor is revoked by the University of Aberdeen over his draconian anti-LGBT laws those are the headlines no cruise for us this year no were you gonna go there no me either it's not on my bucket list it seems that Democratic presidential candidate Kristen Gillibrand party with drag queens in Des Moines Iowa in a bar called blazing saddles and got fashion tips and yes I don't know she needs it though she's kind of fashionable yeah corruption is leading the homophobic NRA towards financial ruin the group most responsible for stopping firearm reform is also swindling its donors so let's cheer their downfall yes and here's another kind of thing it really kind of surprised me I don't know if it is anybody else but it's harder same-sex couples have a 73% likely they're more likely to be turned down for a mortgage than straight people yes so I was kind of surprised I'm not surprised and another thing which doesn't really surprise me is among Democrats an Emerson poll found that Sander Sanders had searched ahead of Biden with Mayor Pete and third all the women came in behind the man and a quarter of Sanders voters polled said they would rather vote for Trump than any other candidate than Sanders I was shocked by that I know I was really shocked by that although you know internally the LGBTQ activist Marsha P. Johnson was honored on Pride theme beer cans the designs from DC based artist plays Pace homage to Johnson Maggie Darty has won the third annual Pride Pills can design competition and we have a picture of the beer cans so and then we have a story about bald eagles which we'll talk about Randall Terry and his band of homophobic homophobes hound Mayor Pete in Iowa the Cincinnati Cyclones defend into a gay chick fillet after a protest was held and gay astronomer who helped create black hole picture defense his female pair Mike Pence's talk was canceled at Taylor University and a trans woman has won hers has won asylum in the United States unfortunately ice will not let her in and she is still locked up and the ACLU is suing so we'll see what happens with that we'll try to follow that case and see if she ever gets out but anyway on to you that yeah I'm following that up so one of the things that has passed the legislature and is going to the governor for signature the Senate bill 6 and 8 68 which would identify indigenous people's day and this is changing that October holiday which might have been one of those European explorers mm-hmm to recognizing the indigenous people it was an interesting vote 113 voting in favor of it 24 opposing and 11 absent or abstaining the primary argument of the 24 people who voted against the bill was oh we have no problem with creating an indigenous people's day but we don't want to give up our day you know it's what we need to talk about this explorer and their contributions like they totally missed the white entitlement and as long as I'm not giving up anything well you can have something to mm-hmm and unfortunately I think that's what we're going to see when proposition to the constitutional amendment eliminating references to slavery and the Vermont Constitution finally gets debated by the Senate it's been on the calendar for five days and they haven't taken it up yet the split has been you know the communities of color said no you need to remove all references you know if you're truly looking at racial justice and reparations that's the place to start and there are these lovely historians saying no no no we need to preserve some of the archival integrity and again kind of missing what is the intent here and yeah how is it you support underrepresented communities moving forward they take the old Constitution put it in a little the old Constitution will always be there in the archive secretary of state so if you really want to read it come look at it the other constitutional amendment that's moving forward is proposition five which is personal reproductive liberty and that's in the house right now house human services which is the same committee that had the right to abortion bill so this looks as though it's moving forward most likely it will be voted on before the end of this year and the other big news for people here in Montpelier is the house has passed the change to Montpelier's Charter that would allow non-citizen voting. Most of those voting against it was again the sort of conservative Republican and they said well wait a minute aren't you creating two entirely separate lists and who's gonna have access to that other list who has all of the undocumented on it to which people came back and said there's only gonna be one list. There's the list that you're using from municipal elections that's it and there is no delineation between if you are or not a citizen so so we're gonna be looking to see if the Senate picks it up maybe not something may not come back again until January of next year and then the other sort of side story Middlebury College chemistry professor. Finally Sam put a question in about based upon this size room how much hydrogen cyanide would you need basically to exterminate a room full of people and hydrogen cyanide is what was used during the Holocaust. This professor is now on leave. So now you're gonna take me to bad places anyway. She'll probably stay on leave. Well and I wasn't really clear on some of the details but he had a similar sort of racist question on an exam last year and there was controversy and there was some disciplinary action. And he apparently didn't get it. Bingo. Okay and where are we going? We're going to Kenya. All right. Where we're gonna meet Kenya's first lesbian pastor and I have a picture of her for you to see her name is Jacinta Naziani. She was married to a man before coming out as a lesbian. She spoke about her long journey towards coming out in Kenya a country that still has an oppressive regime for LGBT people as we know. She explained that she was married to a man for many years and that she came to realize through all the struggle in the marriage that she loves women. I was looking for that touch of a woman that love that care hospitality she said. I had the same feeling. She wanted to wait until her mother passed away. She didn't want to embarrass her. When asked how long she was unhappy for, Naziani replied 25 years. She continued I thank God for my daughter who I love so much. She was like I'm behind you mom because I love you. She said she ultimately came out as a lesbian because you could never change that which is in you. You feel it. It has to come out. Elsewhere in the interview she said she supports people of all backgrounds coming to her church. What I know is that there is no greater wealth in the world than peace. I'm trying to bring peace into this conversation because peace means a lot. So good for her. Good for her. Now we have terrible news from Northern Ireland. Murdered journalist Lyra McKee was a shining star of the new Northern Ireland. Friends and colleagues of murdered journalist Lyra McKee have said have mourned her. She was shot dead during unrest in London Dairy on Thursday night. Police say at this stage they believe her murder was carried on carried out by the new IRA and these terrorists were firing at a police at police cars and she was unfortunately standing near the police car. Her friend and publisher Tina Calder said Lyra was a journalist full of tenacity and empathy. She'd been working on a new book which was only months away from publication. Just last week she'd approved her cover working on the final changes. The big green button was due to be pressed this month. It's so devastating. I have a picture now of her. In 2016 she was named Forbes magazine by Forbes magazine one of their 30 under 30th. She'd recently moved to London Dairy to live with her partner. In a recent tweet she said Dairy is such a beautiful city. I fallen in love with it over the past year while falling in love with a woman who hails from it. There's no better times ahead. Here's to better times ahead and saying goodbye to bombs and bullets once and for all. She was actively involved with the rainbow project and was due to attend an LGBTQ awareness event in the coming weeks. Policy manager of the rainbow project Northern Ireland Gavin Boyd said she was someone that you heard long before you saw her because she was this tiny person with such a passion for the story she wanted to tell and the voices she wanted to amplify. She had many irons in the fire that you never really knew what she was going to do next. And now I have a heartbreaking clip of her partner mourning her loss. The senseless murder of Lyra McKee has left a family without a beloved daughter, a sister, an aunt and a great aunt. Has left so many friends without their confidence. Victims and LGBTQIAs as I had ever commended or left without a tireless advocate and activist. And it's left me without the love of my life, the woman I was planning to grow old with. We were all purer for the loss of Lyra. Our hopes and dreams and all of our amazing potential was snuffed out by a single barbaric act. This cannot stand. Lyra's death must not be in vain because her life was a shining light in everyone else's life and her legacy will live on in the light that she's left behind. Thank you. This is a tragic loss of a young life and our hearts are broke for all those concerned. Those people who carried out this attack have no place in society. Those people who carried out this attack do not have any support. Those people who carried out this attack have attacked all of us. They have attacked the community. They have attacked the people of Dury. They have attacked the peace process and they have attacked the Good Friday Agreement. It is really heartbreaking on Good Friday to stand here 21 years after the Belfast Agreement was signed and to think that there are still those that believe that violence is a way to deal with these issues. Of course violence, criminality, terrorism was always wrong and is still wrong today. In 2019 we condemn it. We need everyone in society to say that that is not the way forward. I mean this was an attack on everybody in Northern Ireland. It doesn't matter if you're a Catholic or a Protestant, British or Irish. This is an attack on democracy. Now I'd like to show you a picture of Aaron Dadey-Kachu and Manaka Guruswamy who are two litigators who were responsible for the abolition of infamous Section 377 in the India Penal Code. They became beacons of hope for the LGBT community. Their perseverance and commitment led an entire community to a historic win, humanizing their struggles and giving them freedom to love. The Chief Justice said constitutional morality cannot be martyred at the altar of social morality. However, in New Delhi, a petition was brought before the Supreme Court seeking various rights such as same-sex marriage, adoption and surrogacy for the LGBT community. Unfortunately, the bench said that since consensual gay sex was decriminalized, it was not inclined to entertain the review plea seeking other reliefs. So you've got marriage, be happy with the Supreme Court is saying exactly. They'll probably bring other cases as time goes on. I hope it continues. I'd like to talk about the kiss and then Columbia if I may. Same-sex couples hold a kiss-a-thon in support of LGBT rights. Dozens of same-sex couples and I have a picture of one couple kissing. They took part in a kiss-a-thon on Wednesday in support of LGBT rights. The event was held in front of the Endino Shopping Center in the capital Bogota where two days before a gay couple had been harassed. A man pushed them, screamed profanities at them, and accused them of fondling each other in front of children. The two men who denied doing anything wrong said they were only hugging and holding hands. They called the police for protection and were instead fined for indecent exposure. We want people to stop satanizing and discriminating against the LGBTQ community. We are not sick. We are not in aberration. We are citizens who are here to build a better country. Esteban Miranda, one of the men who was harassed, said Columbia is one of South America's more liberal countries. When it comes to LGBT legislation, with same-sex couples allowed to form civil unions and adopt children. More stories? No, I think we should move on to Colorado now. Okay. What's going on in Colorado, Linda? Well, a gay male is running for U.S. Senate, and his name is Dan Baer. And he was a former ambassador to the Organization for Security Operations in Europe during the Obama administration. And he's thrown his hat into the ring, and we'll see what happens. Colorado has already broken a rainbow ceiling with the election of a gay governor, Jared Polis. So we'll go see how that goes. Only 50 miles from where Matt Shepard was killed in Wyoming, a GSA in a junior high school is being told not to fly or display pride flags with the rationale that such items would be disruptive as the racist homophobic literature really recently distributed in the school. And I reported on that last week, the KKK kids and the rebel flag. Well, the faculty that's telling these kids not to show that is saying it's for the same reason, because it's disruptive and because it causes chaos in the school. But to me, that's not an equivalent argument, so we'll see what happens there. I don't see anything different. I don't see it changing, but. And then we have the Naval Academy. We'll talk to these students as of 2020. So that'll be that. Then we have these bald eagles, and they are really cool. There's two males and one female, and they are raising a family together. The two males are named Valor I and Valor II. And they are sharing a nest with the female named Star. Together, they helped incubate and hatch their second round of eggs. Three eggs hatched in March. This is when Valor II had to help Valor I be a good father eagle. Apparently, he wasn't doing a good job and had to be taught by Valor II how to, you know, be a good father, because I guess that's why Valor II came to the nest, because the first Valor, you know, wasn't really bringing food or protecting the nest or anything so. We don't know the parentage of, since both of the males have had relations with Star, but they'd seem to be doing a good job. And the chicks are one, and they live near the Mississippi River in Illinois. So we have a picture. I tried to get a clip. I don't know if it'll show later, but anyway, here is a picture of our three eagles. And it's the second pairing. Yeah, it's a second pairing. Because the first mother eagle was killed by another eagle. Yes. A sad tail. Background. Yeah. And it's the domestic challenge for those international penguins. I know. I was so disappointed it was stateside. Randall Terry has a band of homophobes as they hound Mayor Pete in Iowa. Randall Terry, as we all know, by now, is the leader of Operation Rescue and the founder of it, and is now obsessively following Mayor Pete around. Terry told the Associated Press that Pete glorifies and normalizes sinful behavior. He started yelling sonam and gamora, but was drowned out by Pete's supporters. He also dressed as the devil. I really wanted to get a picture of this, but I didn't. To protest outside a house where they were having a house party for Mayor Pete. Randall Sutton was gay. I don't know if people knew that. I did. And he said that he partially, he was killed in a car accident in his son. And he said that he had some reconciliation with his son before he died. I don't see how that could be because why would he still be doing this? Randall Terry is who led the anti-civil union movement here in Vermont. Yeah? He's a charmer. And he looked really interesting in the devil's suit, I gotta tell ya. And the Cincinnati Cyclones defend anti-gay Chick-fil-A after a protest was held. So people came and protested Chick-fil-A and the hockey team got really mad and they threatened to call the police and they were told never to come back. But they're very happy with their Chick-fil-A affiliation. And that is enduring. I remember the 90's people were protesting Chick-fil-A. It's incredible. And you know now they're starting to, you know, you hear the band more like in airports and things like that. So let's hope that trend keeps going. Gaye Ostrunner, who helped create Black Hole Picture, defends his female peer. Researcher Katie Bowman was slammed by misogynists who wanted Andrew Chale to get credit for this image. Chale put an end to this discussion and then he came out himself. After sexist social media trolls tried to diminish the role of computer scientist Katie Bowman in capturing this week's first-ever image of a Black Hole, by claiming a male colleague did most of the work. That co-worker blasted them in a now viral Tweet-a-Thread. Harvard graduate student Andrew Chale, a member of the international team that took the historic photo, stood up for Bowman Thursday night against the sexist smears, explaining that her work was key to developing an algorithm for capturing this image. So good for him. Good for her. Okay. So associated with the Indigenous People's Day, on May 1st, which is a Wednesday, starting at four o'clock on the lawn of the State House, there will be an alabama-y group performing traditional Indigenous abinacchi dance, rituals, drumming, and there will be appropriate cuisine to go along with it. And then following the rest of the week, there will be events at the Ethan Allen Homestead in Burlington. So be looking online, be looking online. Things that the governor says that he thinks are going to make it to the finish line for this legislature is paid family leave. Now, the Senate Economic Development Committee is still looking at the House version 107 rather than the Sununu version, which is being promoted by the governor. So it's going to be interesting to see which one gets put forward and if the governor does, in fact, veto and if the House can override it. He also thinks that S54, the regulation of cannabis, is going to make it to the finish line. Only he has said that if it does not include a roadside saliva testing provision, he will veto it. Do they have the technology for that yet? Well, the House judiciary was hearing it today. There is a saliva test, but the last I knew is predicted value, how often it would give you the results that you truly wanted or was truly accurate wasn't all that good. So even the industry hasn't been supporting it. So it's going to be interesting to see where that lands and what the House judiciary is getting for testimony. There's also a panel that will have oversight over the regulation and it's a three person panel. And what the current legislative version says is that the governor gets to appoint one person, the House appoints one person and the Senate appoints one person. The governor says no, no, no, no, no, no, that's you know, the legislature creates it cannot then enforce laws and that he should be able to appoint all three the same as he does to the liquor control board. But that's not the way it's been done, right? No, that is the way it's been the liquor control board, which has oversight over all of it is totally appointed by the governor. Okay, so but the attorney general says no, no, no, that's not true. Everyone can be a player in this. And it's not the legislature enforcing. They were pointing. We'll see what happens. Stay tuned. And let me ask you, why do you think the governor is doing this with the saliva thing? Oh, no, he has he has been consistent. This is this is nothing new. The same as there's the breathalyzer for alcohol impairment. He is looking for some type of standardized testing that could have that now. Well, well, that's what we're going to wait and see gets presented before House judiciary. Yeah, what there is now is training for law enforcement officers on what to look for for behavior symptoms, mannerisms that would indicate because one of the real problems with the saliva testing is if you got stoned two days ago, it might still react sure so that it over samples versus under samples or give false positives to wonder that's what that's why yes, that's the oversight. Yeah. So what you got honey? Oh, okay. I have many things. Yes. I could see I could see the pile. I guess I'd like to talk if I may about rise and homophobic hate crimes in Paris. I have a picture now of someone who is only identified as Daniel. He was murdered in Paris. He and he's 20 years old. He and his roommate met a stranger on the bus and invited him up to their apartment. And his room he was with a friend named Fred. The men decided to take the bus home Fred and Daniel. They invited the stranger up. Fred was stabbed. Daniel was in the other room on the phone. The stranger attacked Daniel who tried to escape through the first floor window. But the stabbing got to his internal organs and they found him on the street unconscious. He was the embodiment of Joie de vivre. One of his friends wrote provoking an extreme he didn't hide his feminine side but loved to play around with it to feel alive often criticized for being too something too feminine too exuberant or too vulgar. He stuck out also for being very kind, funny and festive. His murder comes amidst a rise in homophobic hate crimes in Paris. Three homophobic attacks were recorded in October alone in Paris. The LGBT organizations stop homophobia, encourage people to practice caution when meeting new people. You can't be too careful. It's like the hookups on Grindr here and Craigslist. That's right. Now, lesbians in Eastern Europe have held a conference in Kiev, despite counter protests. The second European lesbian conference, and I have a picture of them with their banner. They chose Kiev as the host city, because they weighed the importance of visibility and solidarity against the inevitable security risks. Conference board member Billiana Genova explained that Kiev was chosen because it was convenient for activists from Eastern Europe and Central Asia, and to demonstrate solidarity with activists in Ukraine, who are understandably feeling unsafe. Last May, radical nationalist groups disrupted an LGBTI event in Kiev, as police stood by. What happened was around 50 protesters prevented access to the building. Shortly after these witnesses tried to enter, protesters broke through the human barricade of private security personnel and released pepper spray in the hotel lobby. Inside a Ukrainian LGBTQ organization reported 10 people affected by pepper spray. They received treatment at the hotel. The intention of the protesters was to disrupt events and they were successful. The conference venue was evacuated on the last day due to a bomb threat, and a planned public event was canceled due to security risks. Yet the conference achieved its goal of visibility. Despite all threats and efforts to silence them, more than 3,000, 300 lesbians are here and fearless. Billiana Genova observed during a break. While conference organizers issued a statement in support of peaceful protest, there's no excuse for the violent attempts to spread hate and intolerance against lesbians and deny their right. So they're, they're still trying in Ukraine. And now let's go to the Cayman Islands where same sex couples will have to wait, wait months before knowing if they can tie the knot. The government, remember last time I reported the exciting news about the Cayman Islands. Well, now the government has appealed the grand court. On March 29, the court ruled defining marriages between a man and a woman, but that was overturned. Now, the court also said the current definition of marriage under the constitution violated numerous rights. The appeals court president on Wednesday said there could be a legal anomaly if the same, if same sex couples married, and the March ruling was later overturned. There were shots of praise the Lord, thank you Jesus, and bigots from the public gallery from bigots from the public I thought you're gonna say peanut gallery, including according to the Cayman compass. The appeals court will hear the full appeal in August. 1200 people demonstrated against same sex marriage. So one step forward two steps back and they came. Well, I'm not going to go there either then. No, certainly not. I just have one. I have a clip here of the new Emily Dickinson movie called Wild Nights. And Shannon found that's the woman who did the what is her first name anyway. She found in 1988 when she read an article in the New York Times that pointed at a very different Emily Dickinson and apparently there are letters that Emily's brother, mistress or second wife or no, Sue Gilbert by Sue Gilbert. And she had crossed out a lot of things in the letters. But because of technology now they could actually read what was in those letters. And I guess it points us at a very different Emily Dickinson. So here is the trailer for the new movie coming out Wild Nights. Enjoy. They called her the myth. Too much has been made of late of Emily Dickinson's famous reclusivity. Hello. Let me tell the real story about this special poet. When Emily was a young girl, Emily did have a fondness for the daughter of a tavern keeper, Susan. Susan is to be married. I care for your brother. But my heart belongs only to you. I missed you. Susan, you have to be careful. You are the one who writes the poems. What's it in ink? Every poet has a muse. He's up for you. One cup flour. On the other side. Emily Dickinson wished to be published, but she failed to make a good impression. Various limbs of your poems need removal and these dashes. Are they really necessary? Do you see how it is improved? He doesn't think I'm ready. It's because you're a woman. No man would want to marry a woman more clever than he, Jane. Emily. They're full of things, things that are startling. Why don't more people feel as you do then? She had no idea of the recognition after death in the literary world. Wild Nights, where I would see. Wild Nights should be a luxury. It's beautiful, no? So much for the reclusive salad. All dressed in white kind of person who? Well, I thought it was dark clothing, you know, button tightly and, you know. Yeah, yeah. Well, this has been circulating in lesbian scholarship circles for many years. Yes. And now it's. Love affair with Sue Gilbert, her sister Emma. And I guess the letters really do, you know, kind of with the new technology, they were able to dig through some of those old letters. But now you might want to introduce an interview that someone might have done. Yes, I did an interview with Susan Ambrose, who is a Vermont comedian. And I saw Anna and Keith actually saw her at Sweet Melissa's a while back and we asked her to come on the show and she did. So here's this interview. Hi, we're here with Susan Ambrose, comedian, writer, activist, and radio show personality. So there you go. What a package. I know. And so I see that you come from Vermont originally and moved away. Yes. And now you're back. Yes. Yes, I am. Okay. And so what have you been up to since you've been back? Well, let's see, I, I, I privately have a separate life from Susan Ambrose. Susan Ambrose is my comedy persona. So we're going to interview her today, I hope. Yes. So I've been doing comedy for about four years now. And when I first moved back to Vermont, I've been gone for almost 30 years. And, you know, I left Vermont under some difficult conditions because it was the 80s. And as many people who are that old may remember, it wasn't always so friendly to be LGBT at the time. So I moved on to bigger and better things, which was Boston, bright lights, big city. And it was better there? Well, it was better for me to be out and about. Yeah. Yeah. Then then in Vermont at the time. So, so let me just ask you, did you go to the marquee? You know, I think that was even before my time. The saints? I did. All right. Yes. Somewhere else? Yes. All right. Yes, I did. I'm from Boston. I'm glad that you were there for me because that that I may not have remembered all of those names. Thank you. So I have, I read in your bio that what really that, you know, you weren't involved in comedy until you were sort of persuaded. That's true. To get involved in comedy. Because you thought it was unconstitutional to that men could go without shirts and women women couldn't. Well, and so would you like a demonstration funny? Yeah, that someone asked you to, you know, like talk to get into comedy. True. Go ahead. Well, yes, it was kind of on the bucket list at some point in my life to do comedy. And I was espousing as I do so eloquently to anybody who will listen. Why is it unconstitutional in the United States of America where there's no discrimination against sex or gender? Why can't women take their shirts off in public? Like I just don't get that. So the person who was listening to me said, you know, why don't you come in and say that at our show? Why don't you come and practice your comedy? And I'm like, Oh, no. Oh, no, I'm not ready for that. And she said, Well, just come practice. And so with that practicing, it was the perfect crowd. And I just reveled in that evening. And the crowd loved me. And the show was called the right to bear breasts. So I just took off from there. And once you get the taste of comedy in your blood, it's hard to put it back in. So yeah, I'm out now. You're out now. I am. And I see that you did. You did. You've been in the LGBTQ, lol. Yes. And you've done a lot of women's festivals. I have done some women's festivals. How do you find them? Or how did they find me? Yes. Well, I used to do a lot of different promotional events when I was in the North Hampton area, and hooked up with some women that were doing the Berkshire Women's Music Festival. And I ran the Rainbow River Fest. And I performed at Boston Pride, Vermont Pride, and of course, the LGBTQ lol, which is happening again at higher ground in June. We can talk about that later. Okay. And so do you find how do you find this has been like enhancing your your life? I mean, it was something that you really wanted to do. I know. Well, that you didn't know that you really wanted to do. But well, I've always thought I was funny. I think you have to start with that that, you know, I'm that person in the crowd who makes people laugh that has to quick puns and comebacks and, you know, for better for worse, you know, this could be why I'm usually single. I don't know. But when when that part of my persona just started to blossom, you know, it really it feels like something I was always meant to do. But like I tell people I didn't get involved in comedy until much later in life, you know, it was 53. So, you know, it's it's never too late to fulfill a passion to do something that you feel called to. Yeah. And I definitely feel called to do comedy now and to promote. Certainly, the struggles of LGBT people, women, elders, large breasted women, I mean, I can go on my bucket list. Yeah, growing up Catholic in Vermont. I mean, it just goes on and on. But those things are valid because they're not really talked about in society. And if they are, it's sort of, you know, just kind of a laugh. And so this is a laugh about a serious issue. And I, I like to talk about serious issues, whether it's psychology, or sexuality, or religion under through the lens of comedy. Well, you know, I find that that, well, like, I like George Carlin did a lot of like political comedy, but it was really, you know, you could really, it's something you could really attach yourself to. And so I really like the idea of as comedy, as politics are as, you know, a way of getting a message across in a very funny way. Absolutely. Absolutely. Do you want to hear one of my jokes? Yes, I do. Okay, are you sure? Yes, look at the camera. Which one? This one? Yeah. Okay. Well, so there's a lot of myths about lesbians. That's what I always say. And one of the most famous myths is that when women first meet, when lesbians first start dating, there's that first date. And then the second date, they pull up the big truck, which is called a U-Haul. U-Haul, right. They call it U-Hauling. And that is absolutely not true. Because plenty of my friends have used Ryder. I'm glad I made you laugh. All right, that's just one. But there are, you know, so many, because our community has all sorts of different sizes, shapes, colors, and just like the flag, right? There's so many different things we can laugh about our community, but there's some truth behind some of the stereotypes. So I do my best to accent that. And to also, I sort of see myself as an educator. Like a lot of the shows are in straight venues, like it'd be great if I could only do shows in gay bars. What's that in Vermont? We don't have those anymore. So a lot of my shows are with, you know, straight people mixed in or just for them. And I feel that, you know, my future goal is to really educate people about some of the struggles that we go through as a community that a lot of people just don't know about. Yeah. And the younger generation, kind of getting them involved in issues that they, you know, might be still have and, you know, be surprised that are still an issue for them. Yeah, the younger generation has their own issues. You know, I think depending upon where you fall in the spectrum, you know, you pick up your, your sword in your, and your shield for your generation. So, you know, where when I was a young girl, AIDS was just starting. And we ended up losing all the gay men in my circle. You know, there were just very, very few gay men left. So that's something that the younger generation doesn't really understand that you could just one day go to the gay bar and the entire floor was all women now because we had very few gay men left. So and, you know, they're dealing with other issues. So, you know, I do believe that we're all in this together, though. And we have to work together and find ways to have dialogue and communication. And that's sort of what I do here with this comedy, you know, that people can understand generational things through humor. Right. So I'm really into that. Now, we have, I know that we talked a little bit before the show. But you have some really funny, well, interesting stories about when you were on a radio show. Yes. And how do you have never watched your hand again? But so it was my left hand. Okay. So why don't you tell our audience about the radio show and what it did and and your experience? Sure. Well, before I moved home, I had, I used to write for the Rainbow Times, which is an LGBT newspaper in Boston, I did a column called The Controversial Couch, Lie Back and Listen, then Get Up and Do Something. That was the premise. So and again, I would use sarcasm and comedy throughout that to make a point about political, it was political at the time. And then I also had a radio show, three radio programs, one was with the Rainbow Times, but the other two were in North Hampton. One was at the University of Massachusetts. And the one in North Hampton was a fledgling news station that we were getting started. And I had the pleasure to meet Rachel Maddow, because she's a local gal for North Hampton. Now, she wasn't really famous yet. She had just started her radio career. Before that, she was just a gardener and a lesbian. And she actually did a fundraiser for us. So I shook her hand and I never washed my hands again. Yeah, it's pretty much that's it. Yeah. I know she's an amazing and, and, you know, like a person to have for my community be so up there and so vital and important. Remember me, Rachel, when I'm big, she'll say she won't. Yeah. Now you have another story about the flag man. The flag man. The flag man. Yes. Well, the rainbow flag, which is behind us and lots of people know about it. But what some of your listening audience may not know is that Gilbert Baker was the designer of the rainbow flag. And it used to have two other colors on it, actually. One was like a turquoise and one was pink, I believe. And the reason why they couldn't continue with those colors is because they couldn't get those colors all the time. So Gilbert was, I don't want to say a seamstress, but whatever the male version of that is. And he just started putting together all these tapestries. But the story behind Gilbert Baker is I was in Vancouver for the International Pride Organizers event. And God, I hope that doesn't come down on them now that I mentioned their names. But here's what happens. We go out on the street and one of the people I met said, you know, we're going to go to some club. Do you want to come to it? And I was like, sure, you know, and then we're all walking down the street and walk up these stairs and we get to the top and it was called the 420 Club. And I knew what that meant, but I didn't think it was really what it was. And so if you don't know what that means, you're going to have to look it up. That's what I'm going to say. But we we proceeded to go into a room and we are smoking some 420 cigarettes. And with I shared one with this guy named Gilbert. And I had no idea until the next day when at the conference, they said, and now the creator of the rainbow flag, Gilbert Baker. And I thought, Oh, wow, now I can't wash his hand either. Yeah. Well, there you go. Two very famous people. Yeah, I've had the privilege. That's very exciting. Yeah, gay people. Yeah. And now we have about two minutes left. So if you'd like to tell us where we can find you where you'll be in the next month or two. Okay, well, I've got quite a few shows coming up. I'm doing a show this Saturday, April 27th at the Revelry Theater in Burlington with a show called Sex with Jenna. I'm only allowed to talk about my sex life apparently. So if you're up for a late night show, I'll be there. And then I'm going to be at Femcom, which is in Berry at Expresso Bueno. I have to I may have to look these dates up actually just to give you just to make sure your audience knows the dates for sure. Femcom is on May 4th, Saturday May 4th. Okay, then I'll be Friday May 10th. I'll be in St. Albans at 84 Main Street, a late night show there. And then I'll also be at the Shelburne Vineyards on May 16th, which is a Thursday night doing a fundraiser there. And then in June, for Pride Month, we're bringing back LGBTQ LOL, which of course will be at higher ground on Father's Day in the evening. Nice. So if you want tickets, you should get tickets because that's going to sell it fast. Well, I know someone now. Yes, you do. I don't have those tickets. They're not here. They're not on May. Okay, well, that's great. So I think we met Susan at a comedy show at Sweet Melissa's, I believe, right? And we wanted you on the show because we thought you were great. So please go out and see her and find her wherever she is. And you can find me on Facebook, Susan Ambrose comedy and Susan with a Z like Zorro. Yeah, okay. And we will look for you and we hope to see you there. Thank you. Thanks for coming. Thanks. Well, that was fun. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. So now we have to go to higher ground for LOL. I know. That's right. And now what about the trivia? Yeah, April 1999, House Bill, 56 sponsors. And do it. I didn't what did it prohibit? She got it first gas. A man shall not marry a man and a woman shall not marry a woman. And they use shell? No, no, it was amending the existing marriage statutes to include with the list of who you could not marry, which is usually your relatives. Yeah, that a man could not marry a man and a woman could not wear Mary woman. What was interesting is that 1999. That's also when we got the Baker decision from the state Supreme Court that led to the 2000 civil unions bill. So this may have been a move to try and you know, I remember that and when you think like, I want to go that was, it's like, yeah, it's amazing. Really? I you know, it seems to be like, it was quicker and more sequential, but I guess not. So thank you a lot more resistance than what we usually have. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that is our show. Good night, everybody. And until you see us next time, continue to resist.